Coronavirus

[oldno7]

Don't ever break the corn teen

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[oldno7]

No one is driving--business is shutdown

So how long without without yuge carbon footprints before we turn glacial?

I'm thinking we need to have National dedicated drive around for fun days to maintain the earths temperature.



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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

Teachers Urge Government To Reopen Schools Before Students Learn To Think For Themselves

U.S.—Teachers at government schools have raised their concerns that the recent closure of their institutions will have a damaging effect on students. In particular, the nation's educators are worried that the longer the schools are closed, the more likely it is that students will begin thinking for themselves, learn life skills away from the government school system, and realize how much more they learn at home.

"We must reopen as soon as possible -- before they regain their ability to have independent thoughts," said New York 4th-grade teacher Ms. Jenny Mudd. "This is an urgent crisis. We realize we have to do our part to prevent the spread of the virus, but we must also prevent the spread of unapproved ideas. There's a balance there."
"Reopen the schools before it is too late."


https://babylonbee.com/news/teachers-warn-parents-arent-properly-equipped-to-indoctrinate-children

[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

James Woods



@RealJamesWoods


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In every major news event cell phone videos invariably materialize. Every shooting, fire, earthquake, tornado. Where are the videos of the hospitals being overwhelmed with patients? Something is creepy wrong and very scary about this entire event. #WuhanCoronaVirus (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WuhanCoronaVirus?src=hashtag_click).



James Woods



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In every major news event cell phone videos invariably materialize. Every shooting, fire, earthquake, tornado. Where are the videos of the hospitals being overwhelmed with patients? Something is creepy wrong and very scary about this entire event. #WuhanCoronaVirus (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WuhanCoronaVirus?src=hashtag_click).

[oldno7]

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[BasinCruiser]

^^^^If it suffocates on that plastic bag, will that death be counted as a Chinese Wuhan virus death?

[oldno7]

^^^^If it suffocates on that plastic bag, will that death be counted as a Chinese Wuhan virus death?


Well-----duh....:haha:

[oldno7]

Someone said--those are rookie numbers

Someone said you have to pump those numbers up....

We did!!!

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[BasinCruiser]

All across the country, government leaders are shutting down businesses declaring them unessential, telling businesses what items that can and can't put on their shelves and declaring them unessential, closing down businesses, churches, locations that are gathering places for large groups of people, putting in other restrictions on actions and activities and behaviors due to their risk to personal and public safety- all of these controls and directives are being enacted by our government leaders under the guise that they are measures that will help protect public health and safety. How are they getting away with putting these restrictions on our rights and freedoms? They are basing their decisions on 'information and concensus from the scientific community that we are currently under a high risk public health crisis', and therefore to keep the public safe from this threat, they need to enact these measures, and the public needs to comply with them in order to make these measures effective, resulting in hopfully protecting as many people as possible from this threat.

If the government can get away with doing all of this if the threat is a pandemic, and the various health orginazations are tellling them these are the measures they need to take to protect the public from this virus, what is going to stop the government from enacting similar measures for any other health or other threat or potential crisis down the road?

Climate Change - Barack Obummer recently tried to make a correlation between climate change and this Chinese Wuhan Virus crisis - he's not the first one to do so, several other tabloid media outlets and provda activist 'reporters' have done the same. They can say that they have their 97% scientific community consensus that climate change is a real threat to human health, and therefore they need to take drastic measures to protect the public from this threat, and their health advisors agree. What's to stop a government official/group from taking this virus crisis response playbook, protocols, and processes and using them to implement similar restrictions in shutting down businesses declaring that they are not essential, or that they contribute too much to climate change, and are therefore a thread to the public health? What is going to stop them from putting a cap on how much we can drive each day (already has been going on in China - remember their driving restrictions before/during the Olympics) to cut down on car emissions due to the public health risk and threat? What about cutting down output and production of various industries declarinig that their products are not essential, and their use of certain resources are a threat to the environment, so they are putting a cap on how much product they can manufacture?

#2A Gun Control - Scientific consensus shows that guns, when used improperly, are a serious threat to public safety and health, and therefore need to be dealt with. Health departments agree that when shot with a bullet from a gun, a victim runs a high risk of personal injury or death, and therefore gun shots are a serious public health risk. What is to stop a governement entity from determining that certain guns (which could be everything but a muzzleloader) are non-essential, are a health risk if available to the public, and therefore need to be removed from public access?

#1A - RIght to assemble - If the government can close down businesses, churches, community areas because of group assembly under the premise that these are places where this particular virus can easily be spread and is therefore a public health risk, what happens if they decide that gathering and assembly of people fosters group think and may foster group idealogy that objects to government stances, actions, platforms, or laws, and since the government is what is best for the public, and the government is there for protection of the people, and the governemtn policies, platforms and laws are for public safety, therefore these group gatherings could potentially be dangerous to public health and safety, what is to stop them from shutting them down?

#1 - Free Speech - On a recent interview with a congressman (sorry, i can't remember what network or who the congressman is), the host was attacking Fox News for not portaying as much of a panic and pandamonium feel, as the rest of the tabloid news outlets were doing (even though those same outlets were downplaying this virus a month ago saying that it's not big deal, that it's just the flu), and therefore their audience aren't likely as scared and concerned as they should be, and thus are not giving the public the real and full information that they should, imlying that Fox News should be culpable for not informing the public properly so that they can take this as serious as they should and take the necessary precautions and actions. They were clearly sending a red flag to the public to cry out for legistative control over their counterpart, as well as to legilsators for taking action against Fox for putting the public at risk. With the precident being set today with government taking these actions to protect the community, what is stopping them from enacting control and consequences to news outlets if they don't present the information and messages the government deems necessary, and in a manner that the government deems effective in order to incur a response to the public that will result in behaviors that the governement deems necessary for public safety and protection?

#1 - Religion - A pastor was recently arrested in the South - i believe in LA - for holding church services for his congregation, becuase the local governement had deemed that church services didn't meet their criteria as essential activities under their stay at home orders, and therefore holding church services was a public health threat risk, and therefore the pastor should be arrested. What happens when the governement decides that the idealogy of a religion itself is unnecessary, and the idealogy is a public health risk, and therefore they are going to shut down that religion? What if they decide they want to force a church to perform gay weddings? It doesn't hurt anybody else if a gay couple is married in that church - the church shoulndn't have any right to object to that action being performed in their building.

If the governement can take any of the actions that it is currently taking today to shut down businesses and stop commerce on goods and services it deems unnecessary and is a health risk due to spreading of this virus, what is to stop it from declaring another crisis in the future, and use the same tactics to enact whatever measures it wants under the guise of public health and safety?

In this crisis, the battle lines are clearly being drawn between actions that are going to save lives by protecting them from this virus, and economic actions that are threatening the commerce, livelihood, and health of the community from jobs and the ecomomy. Where are the battle grounds for the rights and priviledges that we are losing to governement control in all of this?

[oldno7]

The answer you seek is the Bill of Rights.(I know, right now thats laughable)

Conservative Americans are allowing this to move on in the true fashion of our Country is in trouble.

progressive liberals are enjoying the Government control.

We are in an information vacuum right now and we skeptically go along.

The truth will come out, it has too, theres to much technology available to literally everyone for it not to.

I hope the truth replicates the actions taken, if not there will be a huge uprising by folks who are not known for doing so.

There is a fight in this Country for rights, the Right will not drop this incredible paper written for individual freedom.

The left did a very long time ago.

Whatever way the Country needs to go to get back to individual rights, we will endeavor.

[blueeyes]

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/04/01/mayo-clinic-expects-covid19-antibody-test-to-be-ready-monday?linkId=85673130

This is good news. Mayo has developed a test that will help identify individuals who can return to work.

This kind of testing needs to be available within weeks of a newly suspected viral illness not months. And tests to identify current infections and be available in hospitals not just state health labs.

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[BasinCruiser]

Since they are shutting down all non-essential businesses, telling people to not travel for non-essential trips, and closing off non-essential areas where people congregate, does that mean that all legistors are being laid off and kept at home? :ne_nau:

[rockgremlin]

All across the country, government leaders are shutting down businesses declaring them unessential, telling businesses what items that can and can't put on their shelves and declaring them unessential, closing down businesses, churches, locations that are gathering places for large groups of people, putting in other restrictions on actions and activities and behaviors due to their risk to personal and public safety- all of these controls and directives are being enacted by our government leaders under the guise that they are measures that will help protect public health and safety. How are they getting away with putting these restrictions on our rights and freedoms? They are basing their decisions on 'information and concensus from the scientific community that we are currently under a high risk public health crisis', and therefore to keep the public safe from this threat, they need to enact these measures, and the public needs to comply with them in order to make these measures effective, resulting in hopfully protecting as many people as possible from this threat.

...


In this crisis, the battle lines are clearly being drawn between actions that are going to save lives by protecting them from this virus, and economic actions that are threatening the commerce, livelihood, and health of the community from jobs and the ecomomy. Where are the battle grounds for the rights and priviledges that we are losing to governement control in all of this?


What I'm hearing here is fear.

I think the scenarios you are proposing are possible but not very likely. There is a very large faction of the population that are remaining silent throughout these times of extreme measures. Not saying that your fears are invalid or unwarranted -- just unlikely in my opinion.

[Rob L]

....What in the world is going on?

People are over-using double spacing in their signatures as much as you, and hence the internet is getting too full.

[jman]

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[oldno7]

People are over-using double spacing in their signatures as much as you, and hence the internet is getting too full.

ya know--you've continually followed me around and posted snarky shit.

You and I have nothing in common and you are the type of brit us Americans sent packing.

So FO

I have no interest in you.

You offer nothing to this forum but useless drivel and attacks on me.

I can't remember the last time I saw your face but as I recall, it seemed quite punchable.

cheerio's:roflol:blokee

[Rob L]

ya know--you've continually followed me around and posted snarky shit.

You and I have nothing in common and you are the type of brit us Americans sent packing.

So FO

I have no interest in you.

You offer nothing to this forum but useless drivel and attacks on me.

I can't remember the last time I saw your face but as I recall, it seemed quite punchable.

cheerio's:roflol:blokee

I'm glad to see you have a sense of humour.

[oldno7]

I'm glad to see you have a sense of humour.

creeky there blokee

I have a great sense of humor.

If I liked skinny old uk guys I'd likely prefer nick jagermeister but he can't sing.

cheerio's

[BasinCruiser]

More #FilmYourHospital



http://youtu.be/kJUjR17QBnw

[BasinCruiser]

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[rockgremlin]

More #FilmYourHospital



http://youtu.be/kJUjR17QBnw


:ne_nau::ne_nau::ne_nau:

This is some X-Files, Twilight Zone shit.

What's going on here?

[oldno7]

:ne_nau::ne_nau::ne_nau:

This is some X-Files, Twilight Zone shit.

What's going on here?

x3

[accadacca]

I'm glad to see you have a sense of humour.

How are things going in jolly ole England? Virus panic or what?

[oldno7]

Schumer calls on Trump to appoint a coronavirus supply 'czar' with military backgroundSenate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer on Thursday formally asked President Trump to appoint a military officer to oversee the federal government’s role in procuring and distributing goods in response to the escalating coronavirus epidemic.
Mr. Schumer said companies’ voluntary efforts to produce ventilators and equipment are welcomed but that America can’t rely on a “patchwork” system.
“It is long past the time for your administration to designate a senior military officer to fix this urgent problem,” Mr. Schumer wrote in a letter to Mr. Trump.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/2/chuck-schumer-calls-trump-appoint-coronavirus-supp/

[oldno7]

Trump responds:

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[oldno7]

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[Iceaxe]

Trump responds:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUoZr2aWoAAjM76.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUoZr2bWoAAwMny.jpgOh god.... please tell me that's real :-)

Climb-Utah.com

[oldno7]

Oh god.... please tell me that's real :-)

Climb-Utah.com

Not 100% but pretty dang sure it is.

It's called bitchslap:kicknuts:

[Iceaxe]

Holy crap... the letter is real... Trump just made my top three presidents ever list.

Trump fires back at Schumer over coronavirus criticism: 'No wonder AOC is thinking about running against you'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-schumer-coronavirus-criticism

Climb-Utah.com

[BasinCruiser]

Buoyahhh. Got my stimulus check today. Anyone else?

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[rockgremlin]

Buoyahhh. Got my stimulus check today. Anyone else?

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LOL :roflol::roflol:

[accadacca]

Step off drug cartels...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBFvlzVZ9og&feature=youtu.be

[oldno7]

:ne_nau::ne_nau::ne_nau:

This is some X-Files, Twilight Zone shit.

What's going on here?
University projections of COVID-19 hospitalizations turn out to be four times too high

The University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, which owns HealthData.org (http://www.healthdata.org/) and has been cited (https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/01/824744490/5-key-facts-the-white-house-isnt-saying-about-their-covid-19-projections) by the Trump administration, is getting called out for promulgating COVID-19 projections that turn out to be far too high.
The institute’s projections are treated as the gold standard by several American hospital systems and state governments, according to (http://www.healthdata.org/data-visualization/covid-19-us-state-state-projections) its website, which warns that the demand for “ventilators, general hospital beds, and ICU beds” are “expected to exceed capacity.”


This is the @IMHE_UW model for #Covid_19 (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Covid_19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw), the new US standard. It was put out SIX days ago (post lockdown). It projects New York State will have 50,000 hospitalizations TODAY. Instead NYS has 12,000. Wrong by 4x in under a week. What on earth are we doing? https://t.co/zdRwaS4UJr pic.twitter.com/bRroolmKgw (https://t.co/bRroolmKgw)
— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) April 1, 2020 (https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1245416486879051778?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


8/ Except, suddenly, the hospital beds aren't filling. The models are wrong. Not in a month or a year, but within days. Just flat wrong. The tide is rolling out now, faster than you could have imagined. You don't even understand what's happened, what's happening.
— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) April 2, 2020 (https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1245774057808769025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

https://www.thecollegefix.com/university-projections-of-covid-19-hospitalizations-turn-out-to-be-four-times-too-high/?utm_source=whatfinger

[oldno7]

Let's look at some state data. The IMHE model predicted that 1,716 people in Texas would have been hospitalized yesterday due to the Wuhan coronavirus. The actual number of hospitalized Texans? 196 people. pic.twitter.com/1YCLKP6TJb (https://t.co/1YCLKP6TJb)
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) April 2, 2020 (https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1245742814790586368?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


In Tennessee, the IMHE model predicted that 2,214 people in Tennessee would have been hospitalized by yesterday due to the Wuhan coronavirus. The actual number? 200. pic.twitter.com/r1kP5u4TeH (https://t.co/r1kP5u4TeH)
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) April 2, 2020 (https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1245742819152670720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)




So it sounds like the modeling that is the basis for everyones concern have been off,

BUT--they are updating.

Are they updating due to folks going to hospitals around the country and seeing no emergency/pandemic numbers?

[oldno7]

And of course--Trump is still out destroying the Country--orange man bad...


Report: Trump Campaign Has Been Anonymously Donating Meals to Hospitals Across the Country

The Trump campaign has been anonymously donating meals to hospitals in the areas hardest hit by the coronavirus outbreak, including New York, New Jersey, Michigan and Washington state, according to a report Thursday.
Fox News political reporter Brooke Singman reported (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-donates-meals-coronavirus) that President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign has been placing the orders since last Thursday.
“They’re doing it as a donor who cares,” a source was quoted as saying. “So nothing politically is tied to it. … We’re just trying to, you know, show a thank you.”
“They’re trying to send things that are like, local restaurants that may need support [and] cool restaurant icons of the area that may need the business,” a source said.

https://www.westernjournal.com/report-trump-campaign-anonymously-donating-meals-hospitals-across-country/?utm_source=whatfinger

[oldno7]

I'm on another forum, a very large several million folk forum.

Lots of Dr's and nurses of varying stripes from all across the country.

This morning, some are slammed(heavy metro areas) and others are being laid off.(Ohio, Texas, others)

Seems a very spotty but when in a bad area, it's very bad, others hardly affected.

[oldno7]

Just ones perspective but a very common one, it seems:



"A lot of former partners of mine are RNs and several more are MDs, all working in NYC. They have absolutely nothing good to say. Complete shitshow according to all of them. No room for patients, stretchers lined up end to end in hallways with patients, ERs working at well above capacity 24/7. Mutiple wings converted to ICU wings to take the critical patients, etc. No end in sight as there's a constant, non stop influx of patients, even during the historically slow hours between 04:00-07:00 AM...


I do know for a fact that FDNY METU units are transferring patients to UpState NY hospitals to relive overcrowding at city hospitals...


On the flip side, my brother is a contract CC RN and is currently working at a large hospital in GA. Absolute ghost town according to him. Patient numbers have decreased (substantially) according to him, and that decrease coincides with the COVID-19 outbreak.. He says all their 'regulars', the same people that go to the ER multiple times a week for BS, stopped coming weeks ago, as well as those with BS ailments. The only ER visits they're getting are legitimate patients.... He's attributing the substantial decrease in ER visits to the fact that people do not want to be anywhere near COVID--19 patients and thus are avoiding the hospitals."

[oldno7]

So with only a degree in logic.

It would seem all the models were based off NY, NJ, Conn, etc.

Models in those areas are likely close.

But the rest of the non huge city areas are less affected by a large factor, maybe 4x or greater?:ne_nau:

So it begs the question---are these areas not going to be affected OR has their curve yet to start ?

[BasinCruiser]

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[accadacca]

Quarantine workout routine...

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[oldno7]

http://www.bogley.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94471&d=1585923049



More--WOW^^^^^^

When this is over, the USA needs to sever it's ties with the UN and WHO.

Bring all our medical related business home.

The world has grown accustomed to letting china carry the production load--we and whomever cares about it's citizens, needs to sever or greatly reduce any dependency on china.

[oldno7]

‘Here We Go Again’—Donald Trump Trashes Nancy Pelosi Coronavirus ‘Witch Hunt’



https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/02/here-we-go-again-donald-trump-trashes-nancy-pelosi-coronavirus-witch-hunt/

[oldno7]

Pelosi: Trump Didn’t Want to ‘Face the Reality’ of Coronavirus — ‘Denial and that Delay Cost Lives’

Pelosi said, “That’s just sad. They can’t handle their jobs, I guess, because what are they saying? We ignored it? It was self-evident. Most people knew about it and certainly those of responsibility.”
She added, “So I say of that, either you can’t handle your job, but don’t blame impeachment on that. Just blame it on the fact that you didn’t want to face the reality. That denial and that delay cost lives.”



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCzoXhNM6c&feature=emb_logo

[oldno7]

jake tapper doesn't get the answer he wanted from Gov. Newsom.

This is whats going on in REALITY.

hacks like tapper just want to sew discord and bring down Trump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYqTjc6ZT_c

[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

n95

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Coronavirus-WHO-620x353.jpg

[oldno7]

Corona, as of yesterday has been completely shut off....



MEXICO SAYS NO MAS BREWING!!!Deemed Non-Essential Biz

As if the coronavirus name thing wasn't enough, now Corona beer won't be brewed at all ... in Mexico, anyway -- not for now.
Grupo Modelo, which brews Corona and several other brands, announced Thursday it would close operations at its 11 breweries in Mexico as of Sunday due to government regulations.
Mexico is closing all businesses deemed non-essential ... and that includes beer. The shutdown will impact Grupo's other brands too -- including Pacifico and all the Modelo brews.

https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/03/corona-beer-no-brewing-mexico-non-essential-business-coronavirus-grupo-modelo/

[blueeyes]

Thermofisher stepping up

We now have controls to help insure testing is accurate. And verification material to verify the new test methods do what they say.

https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/global/forms/clinical/acrometrix-covid-19-control-contact.html


Interesting to note is the promised testing by WH of 500,000 tests is still not happening. I wish they would educate themselves a bit about the how and why. And stop spreading misinformation. These things don't happen over a weekend simply because you want them to.


https://khn.org/news/trump-touted-abbotts-quick-covid-19-test-hhs-document-shows-only-5500-are-on-way-for-entire-u-s/


Interesting fact about the highly touted 5 min test from Abbott is that their product insert they have only site 30 positives 30 negatives... for a new test that is pretty low. Kind of unheard of.

I would trust a positive for the most part. But any negative test from this method I personally would want a back up test.


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[oldno7]

Will prostitutes get the unemployment?

If not they get screwed..

[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

Interesting data out of Italy:

Characteristics of COVID-19 patients dying in ItalyReport based on available data on March 26th, 2020


https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_26_marzo_eng.pdf?mod=article_inline

[rockgremlin]

Interesting data out of Italy:

Characteristics of COVID-19 patients dying in ItalyReport based on available data on March 26th, 2020


https://www.epicentro.iss.it/coronavirus/bollettino/Report-COVID-2019_26_marzo_eng.pdf?mod=article_inline

^^^Over 98% of all deaths presented with at least one co-morbidity. In other words, only 2% of all deaths were classified as normal or completely healthy prior to contracting the virus. That's a significant statistic.

[BasinCruiser]

I think I bruised my forehead doing an eye roll so hard.

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[BasinCruiser]

But, the MSM and TDS infected freaks will cry that Trump isn’t doing anything about this crisis.


AMERICA FIRST: U.S. OUTBIDDING THE REST OF THE WORLD FOR MEDICAL SUPPLIES
by Kevin Ryan


Countries around the world are complaining that the Trump administration has been outbidding them for medical supplies, and is using hardball tactics to secure goods for the American people.


A shipment of respirator masks made by the US manufacturer 3M that was bound for Germany, for example, was diverted in Thailand and sent to the United States instead. About 200,000 N95 masks were diverted to the US as they were being transferred between planes in Thailand, according to the Berlin authorities who had ordered the masks for the police force.


Andreas Geisel, the Social Democrat interior minister for Berlin state, described the diversion as “an act of modern piracy”. “This is no way to treat trans-Atlantic partners,” Geisel said, saying the U.S. is using “Wild West methods.”


It’s not just the Trump administration wielding U.S. clout… American companies and private citizens have been outbidding other countries in the global market for coronavirus protective equipment.


Valérie Pécresse, head of the local council in Paris, said she “found a stock of masks that was available and Americans – I’m not talking about the American government – but Americans, outbid us,” Pécresse said. “They offered three times the price and they proposed to pay upfront. I can’t do that… So we were caught out.” Pécresse was eventually able to obtain 1.5m masks elsewhere.


Two other French regional government heads told a similar story of “US buyers waving wads of cash” managing to wrest control of a consignment of masks as it was about to be dispatched from China to France. The masks were on a plane at Shanghai airport that was ready to take off when the group of US buyers turned up and offered three times what their French counterparts were paying. Another French official said the group were acting for the US government.


FEMA is coordinating flights for US buyers, but, unlike foreign countries, says it will not nationalize the American distribution network, arguing that private distributors can do a better job. The US has a significant advantage in its fleet of large air freighters, three times the size of China’s.


SOURCES: https://www.businessinsider.com/3m-mask-shipment-to-berlin-germany-diverted-united-states-report-2020-4
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/mask-wars-coronavirus-outbidding-demand
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/business/coronavirus-china-masks.html
https://www.businessinsider.com/3m-ceo-responds-to-trump-twitter-attack-on-mask-company-2020-4
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200403005218/en/3M-Response-Defense-Production-Act-Order
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/02/global-battle-coronavirus-equipment-masks-tests

[rockgremlin]

I think I bruised my forehead doing an eye roll so hard.

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This bitch is so out of touch with reality it's scary. :roll:

[dougrz]

Thermofisher stepping up

We now have controls to help insure testing is accurate. And verification material to verify the new test methods do what they say.

https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/global/forms/clinical/acrometrix-covid-19-control-contact.html


Interesting to note is the promised testing by WH of 500,000 tests is still not happening. I wish they would educate themselves a bit about the how and why. And stop spreading misinformation. These things don't happen over a weekend simply because you want them to.


https://khn.org/news/trump-touted-abbotts-quick-covid-19-test-hhs-document-shows-only-5500-are-on-way-for-entire-u-s/


Interesting fact about the highly touted 5 min test from Abbott is that their product insert they have only site 30 positives 30 negatives... for a new test that is pretty low. Kind of unheard of.

I would trust a positive for the most part. But any negative test from this method I personally would want a back up test.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200403/38b6de2e46cd3065a56de7313048198b.jpg

Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkCan you post a higher quality version of that doc. Illegible.

[blueeyes]

http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5e8856b13fd13/IN190000%20v1.0%20ID%20NOW%20COVID-19%20Test%20Product%20Insert%20IN1.pdf

An individual asked Abbott what the sensitivity and specificity was for the test and this was Abbott's reply on their Facebook page.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/04b39dd67400d45415784619cbaad150.jpg

Like I said I wouldn't trust any negative tests. I would want a back up on those. If it comes back positive I would trust that result.

This test was given EUA and that is why they have not published sensitivity and specificity they didn't use enough samples to give accurate data. And it is best when determining this data to use real samples not control material.

Make sure to read the Limitations of the test.

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[blueeyes]

They are trying to produce these as fast as they can. It just doesn't happen overnight. And I wish the WH would give a more realistic approach to this fact.

https://www.abbott.com/corpnewsroom/product-and-innovation/an-update-on-abbotts-work-on-COVID-19-testing.html

What we need is a rapid test that detects antibodies IgM and IgG to the virus. That would be helpful.

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[blueeyes]

And this is about the general opinion of Abbott in the lab setting. Like I said before I am not a fan of this company. They like to be deceptive.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/7e055a952212ea3b119fe32d95784603.jpg

I took them on over their POC test for troponin I I testing. Biomarker for heart complications. They rolled out a new cartridge that came back with so many testing errors my ED staff was setting up 4 tests at one time to get one result. I tracked all the errors sent them the data. Sent back 4 lots of cartridges to be told when they tested them they found the errors to be within their allowable limits. And they told me no one else was complaining of these problems. The did let us go back to using the old style cartridges.

About a month later I stumbled onto 2 different forums where other POC Coordinators had complained of the same issue. And were told the same thing by Abbott that I was.

That was about 3 1/2 years ago. Well this year Abbott got into trouble with the FDA because they never had those new blue cartridges approved. They had to issue a stop testing notice that really put a lot of hospitals using iSTATs in a bind.





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[BasinCruiser]

What is the truth?



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[accadacca]

Heber City, UT

https://i.ibb.co/bvx5P8P/DA7-F708-B-105-C-4736-80-AA-39-EA5-A512-F24.jpg

[accadacca]

https://i.ibb.co/9hNHmGJ/E9-CC2675-A2-A5-4812-84-A1-0-D2193469839.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Everything the government does, it sucks at, presenting evidence #15,5480:

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[BasinCruiser]

To those constantly virtue signaling to anyone to stay at home...

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[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

DAN CRENSHAW

Many of those laid off workers are involved in the oil and gas industry. They are still your fellow Americans, whether you like it or not.


Foreign oil is produced with poorer labor protections, higher emissions, and generally worse standards than American oil. We set the standard in clean oil production.


How do you think we will pay for education and healthcare in the country without oil and gas revenues? Many states rely on this revenue. Curious where you believe these funds will come from.


Energy independence is absolutely *crucial* from an economic and foreign policy standpoint. We need to protect ourselves from the volatility of the global markets, and never go back to the enormous price increases of the 1970’s that occur *without* energy independence.


https://climatecrisis.house.gov/news/press-releases/chair-castor-trump-must-not-raise-gas-prices-struggling-americans


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[oldno7]

http://www.bogley.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94477&d=1586004931

This is wrong..Kinda.

Congress is not only getting paid--pelosi inserted a pay RAISE into the 2.2Trillion dollar covid-19 relief package.

So while Americans scrimp and save--congress gets bonus money, thanks to san fran nan.

[BasinCruiser]

Overbearing out of control government policies are now taking a measurable direct affect on available healthcare right here at home. Tell me again how the government can provide healthcare to the population better than the free market. Bernie- when you say that single payer healthcare will save Americans $600B a year in administrative costs, is this how you come up with your estimates- by cutting back medical wither hours, furloughs, laying people off, and shutting down hospitals?

94479

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/04/03/intermountain-healthcare/

[BasinCruiser]

10 MILLION new jobless claims in the last 2 weeks. When are the people and government going to rethink this strategy of shutting everything down for months on end to ‘flatten the curve’? When are they going to realize the economic repercussions of these measures are coming a greater cost and sacrifice to society than this virus? Are people getting sick- yes. Are people dieing from this- yes. Are there hotspots in the country where hospitals are overwhelmed and don’t have equipment and resources to handle the number of critical cases- yes. But, are there large swaths of areas in the country where people are sitting in this country that are barely affected- yes. From information and data, do we have a good feel for people who are healthy and want to work and have a very low chance of getting seriously sick from this?

Is it time to stop using WWII methods of attacking an enemy on our own soil, and start using more targeted, pin point measures , so that we don’t completely decimate our economy and society into oblivion, and turn out country into third world conditions? Right now, they are essentially carpet bombing and nuke bombing our society from coast to coast trying to attach this invisible enemy that is hiding mostly in pockets here and there, attaching the already sick, elderly, and medically compromised. Why can’te we take a more targeted approach, isolate those at high risk, and let the rest of the community get back to work and life while still practicing safe measures like washing and personal distancing?

When fighting in the Middle East, people questioned why the military was protecting the poppi farms while at the same time we are having a opioid epidemic here at home, and we were told that we couldn’t threaten the livelihood of those people over there, that we were there to help and protect them from a common enemy. Why is it wrong to disturb or threaten the economy over on the Middle East while fighting against an enemy, but perfectly fine to do so here?

[devo_stevo]

Heber City, UT

https://i.ibb.co/bvx5P8P/DA7-F708-B-105-C-4736-80-AA-39-EA5-A512-F24.jpg
The food there is great too. I highly recommend it.

[oldno7]

10 MILLION new jobless claims in the last 2 weeks. When are the people and government going to rethink this strategy of shutting everything down for months on end to ‘flatten the curve’? When are they going to realize the economic repercussions of these measures are coming a greater cost and sacrifice to society than this virus? Are people getting sick- yes. Are people dieing from this- yes. Are there hotspots in the country where hospitals are overwhelmed and don’t have equipment and resources to handle the number of critical cases- yes. But, are there large swaths of areas in the country where people are sitting in this country that are barely affected- yes. From information and data, do we have a good feel for people who are healthy and want to work and have a very low chance of getting seriously sick from this?

Is it time to stop using WWII methods of attacking an enemy on our own soil, and start using more targeted, pin point measures , so that we don’t completely decimate our economy and society into oblivion, and turn out country into third world conditions? Right now, they are essentially carpet bombing and nuke bombing our society from coast to coast trying to attach this invisible enemy that is hiding mostly in pockets here and there, attaching the already sick, elderly, and medically compromised. Why can’te we take a more targeted approach, isolate those at high risk, and let the rest of the community get back to work and life while still practicing safe measures like washing and personal distancing?

When fighting in the Middle East, people questioned why the military was protecting the poppi farms while at the same time we are having a opioid epidemic here at home, and we were told that we couldn’t threaten the livelihood of those people over there, that we were there to help and protect them from a common enemy. Why is it wrong to disturb or threaten the economy over on the Middle East while fighting against an enemy, but perfectly fine to do so here?

Good questions, I hope someone has the answers--soon.

[oldno7]

https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2020/04/Screen-Shot-2020-04-01-at-10.15.47-AM.png?w=996&ssl=1

[blueeyes]

Overbearing out of control government policies are now taking a measurable direct affect on available healthcare right here at home. Tell me again how the government can provide healthcare to the population better than the free market. Bernie- when you say that single payer healthcare will save Americans $600B a year in administrative costs, is this how you come up with your estimates- by cutting back medical wither hours, furloughs, laying people off, and shutting down hospitals?

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https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/04/03/intermountain-healthcare/The problem is that no one is going to the hospital unless it is a serious health concern or they suspect they have COVID. Our volume of testing has dropped by more than 1/2. No money coming in how are they supposed to pay people?

On another note...I am so happy to be at work this morning. Nice change of pace even if it is slow. I only work every other weekend at the hospital as of now. And for only about 3 hrs each morning. Before this I was here 5 hours each weekend morning sometime longer, and they would have happily worked me every weekend but I kind of felt like I needed at least 2 days off in a month. Pretty much have been doing that since they hired me a year ago. Because I don't know a lab out there that wasn't short staffed until this virus hit.

If you are not in a hotzone your are a ghost town. It is eerie.

We had 2 patients one has gone home. As a whole our company has about 180 hospitals in 20 states last week we had 1400 positive hospitalized patients. This week 2500.

We won't have in house testing until mid April. But Timpanagose does I don't know what platform and they are getting results back in 24 hours. Reference labs are still horribly backed up.

I know our leaders took a 30% paycut across the board and our CEO is donating all of his salary for the next 2 months to our HOPE fund. Which helps employees in need.

Also I personally am not for one size fits all healthcare. But something definitely needs to change with the current system. Too many flaws.

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[oldno7]

Heres the perspective of one New Yorker:

We Cannot Destroy The Country For The Sake Of New York City (https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/03/we-cannot-destroy-the-country-for-the-sake-of-new-york-city/)

I imagine there are some people who love New York City more than I do, but I do love it. I love it with fervor of the convert. A Philadelphian by birth, for 20 years I have now walked the storied steel canyons of the world’s current capital.
There’s a reason the United Nations meets here, why artists and would-be stock barons alike come here. Now we are in the grip of the coronavirus, locked down. But our peril must not mean that the nation we represent must be destroyed.


I had occasion this week, as the virus ground us all to a stop, to talk to a friend in Indiana. I asked, “Is this the greatest crisis the country has ever faced?” We haven’t been invaded since 1812, I pointed out, and have never been occupied. Her reply, “What crisis?” She was in her backyard, her children playing. My life was at a bizarre standstill, death all around, hers was not. Yet all across the nation I don’t have time to think about lives are being destroyed, not by virus, but by an economic disaster unknown in a century.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/03/we-cannot-destroy-the-country-for-the-sake-of-new-york-city/

[oldno7]

The problem is that no one is going to the hospital unless it is a serious health concern or they suspect they have COVID. Our volume of testing has dropped by more than 1/2. No money coming in how are they supposed to pay people?

On another note...I am so happy to be at work this morning. Nice change of pace even if it is slow. I only work every other weekend at the hospital as of now. And for only about 3 hrs each morning. Before this I was here 5 hours each weekend morning sometime longer, and they would have happily worked me every weekend but I kind of felt like I needed at least 2 days off in a month. Pretty much have been doing that since they hired me a year ago. Because I don't know a lab out there that wasn't short staffed until this virus hit.

If you are not in a hotzone your are a ghost town. It is eerie.

We had 2 patients one has gone home. As a whole our company has about 180 hospitals in 20 states last week we had 1400 positive hospitalized patients. This week 2500.

We won't have in house testing until mid April. But Timpanagose does I don't know what platform and they are getting results back in 24 hours. Reference labs are still horribly backed up.

I know our leaders took a 30% paycut across the board and our CEO is donating all of his salary for the next 2 months to our HOPE fund. Which helps employees in need.

Also I personally am not for one size fits all healthcare. But something definitely needs to change with the current system. Too many flaws.

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Kinda curious, Chere'

How is your workload of tests that are not covid-19?

I'm guessing(you have facts) that your workload has drastically been reduced.

If by chance it has been reduced, what would be the cause?

If not reduced--I'll go back in my trailer house and quit getting outside my lane.:mrgreen:

[middlefork]

Not Chere but see below.

Carry on!


The problem is that no one is going to the hospital unless it is a serious health concern or they suspect they have COVID. Our volume of testing has dropped by more than 1/2. No money coming in how are they supposed to pay people?

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[accadacca]

My neighbor is a nurse who works in same day surgery. He said they would typically do 60-80/ day and are currently at 15-20.

[blueeyes]

Kinda curious, Chere'

How is your workload of tests that are not covid-19?

I'm guessing(you have facts) that your workload has drastically been reduced.

If by chance it has been reduced, what would be the cause?

If not reduced--I'll go back in my trailer house and quit getting outside my lane.:mrgreen:

Our work load of non COVID had been reduced by half. It is because every elective surgery has been canceled and no one is going to doctor's office unless they suspect they have the virus. We do a lot of outpatient testing and the volume is less than half.

My facts are I am sitting here twiddling my thumbs. And we get for example 11 boxes of chemistry tests. I don't know how may samples are in those boxes but the past week and half we are getting 5. That is just for chemistry.

Like I said. If you are a hospital in a hotzone you are slammed. Anywhere else it is a ghost town. This is good. It means social distancing is working.

I 100% believe if we had not started social distancing by end of April we would have seen enough cases to overwhelm more areas. Do I think there is a better way? Absolutely but you have to have the correct testing in place for that to happen and currently we don't.

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[rockgremlin]

Spoke with my friend who works at ARUP yesterday. I asked how it was going with all of the Covid testing. He was very depressed and his response revealed why. Apparently, some other company had moved into their facilities, and would be handling all of the Covid testing exclusively. That frees up all ARUP employees to do everything else... the problem is there is very little else to do. Since nobody is going to the doctor and avoiding hospitals, there aren't any samples to process. He's been at ARUP for over 10 years and now layoffs are imminent. Very bad news.

[blueeyes]

Spoke with my friend who works at ARUP yesterday. I asked how it was going with all of the Covid testing. He was very depressed and his response revealed why. Apparently, some other company had moved into their facilities, and would be handling all of the Covid testing exclusively. That frees up all ARUP employees to do everything else... the problem is there is very little else to do. Since nobody is going to the doctor and avoiding hospitals, there aren't any samples to process. He's been at ARUP for over 10 years and now layoffs are imminent. Very bad news.I wonder what company moved in...



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[blueeyes]

Interesting account of someone who is recovering from COVID.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10222581925361010&id=1357907934

Obviously being on FB it could be fabricated but it fits the picture I have been reading over and over again and from other things I have heard.

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[blueeyes]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200404/e110e1264a62ae481dcbf32bd83d32a0.jpg

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[Sombeech]

Don’t need to wait 30 days. It’s already starting. Even before this crisis started, we had plenty of mentally ill and conspiracy folks like @Sombeech (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=6) just itching for a crisis to occur so they can explode. Present evidence case #50:

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https://abc7.com/officials-engineer-tried-to-smash-train-into-usns-mercy/6069395/?fbclid=IwAR3d9MNqBtXcpuyINLo3Efsqu9uE0qqFLsqzfLIX 1leAiAX1cOjko0HSNDw

Watch for buses next

From the quoted link:
He allegedly made statements to a CHP officer that included "You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to. People don't know what's going on here. Now they will."
-end quote

The ships Mercy and Comfort are NOT for COVID patients. NOT. They are strategically placed in certain ports. Look at NYC, look at the pier it is stationed at. Look at the tunnel that emerges near it, and where that tunnel leads.

That is all for now.

[oldno7]

Interesting account of someone who is recovering from COVID.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10222581925361010&id=1357907934

Obviously being on FB it could be fabricated but it fits the picture I have been reading over and over again and from other things I have heard.

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Sounded legit to me

[rockgremlin]

Watch for buses next

From the quoted link:
He allegedly made statements to a CHP officer that included "You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to. People don't know what's going on here. Now they will."
-end quote

The ships Mercy and Comfort are NOT for COVID patients. NOT. They are strategically placed in certain ports. Look at NYC, look at the pier it is stationed at. Look at the tunnel that emerges near it, and where that tunnel leads.

That is all for now.

So, why hospital ships? Why couldn't victims of human trafficking be corralled in warehouses or other structures?

If the hospital ships were necessary for containing trafficking victims, then one could imply that the outbreak of Covid-19 was planned by the federal government all along.

[savanna3313]

Interesting account of someone who is recovering from COVID.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10222581925361010&id=1357907934

Obviously being on FB it could be fabricated but it fits the picture I have been reading over and over again and from other things I have heard.

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Sounds very correct as my friend's husband in New Orleans is going through what sounds identical. My friend, her teenage son and her husband have all had it, but he ended up in the hospital 2 days ago.

[accadacca]

https://i.ibb.co/5GhfMwX/0345-F8-DC-D9-FB-48-E1-9840-08524-B67-F576.jpg

[Iceaxe]

Interesting account of someone who is recovering from COVID.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10222581925361010&id=1357907934

Obviously being on FB it could be fabricated but it fits the picture I have been reading over and over again and from other things I have heard.

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Thanks... this is the most worthwhile item yet posted in this forum on the subject.

Climb-Utah.com

[erial]

and from the spouse's point of view:

https://www.therunnerstrip.com/2020/03/diary-of-72-hours-during-an-unfolding-catastrophe/

[Sombeech]

So, why hospital ships? Why couldn't victims of human trafficking be corralled in warehouses or other structures?

If the hospital ships were necessary for containing trafficking victims, then one could imply that the outbreak of Covid-19 was planned by the federal government all along.
Because the vast majority of these victims need medical care and nourishment.

I'm still giving it time and like I said, I'll be the first to say I was way off, but I'm giving it about another week to let things happen and come to light.

These kids are slaves, even impregnated with infant slaves, farmed. I could say some pretty crazy things that I'm seeing lined up, but they would sound absolutely NUTS. So I'm just going to make sure it plays out before I give too many details.

As far as lining up with COVID19 timing, this rescue of the children was used during this time. Wherever the virus came from, whether it was planned or just happened (weird how some of them line up with election years), Intelligence will find out, if they haven't already.

Who does the NSA work for? Who did certain Gov't agencies THINK the NSA would be working for, after 2016 election? Can you imagine if there are big secrets they thought would be safe, are now totally known by Trump?

Mass shootings can't happen right now. Mass protests are gone, no Caravans marching to the US border (did anybody believe a father carried a baby in his arms for 400 miles straight? What a farce) So what can "they" do to guide the media narrative? Weird stuff, like driving trains into the hospital ships. Watch for buses. And I hate to say this, I hope nobody attacks any hospitals.

I'm just waiting it out, saving the world by watching TV. We'll see what happens, not much we can do about any of it.

[oldno7]

https://66.media.tumblr.com/ecdebe33273a0176e045dad9cf084a07/dbd228f02d67972f-39/s1280x1920/4ec2106d80f0a41d5223f1592c13f24dea7dccf6.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Because the vast majority of these victims need medical care and nourishment.

I'm still giving it time and like I said, I'll be the first to say I was way off, but I'm giving it about another week to let things happen and come to light.

These kids are slaves, even impregnated with infant slaves, farmed. I could say some pretty crazy things that I'm seeing lined up, but they would sound absolutely NUTS. So I'm just going to make sure it plays out before I give too many details.

As far as lining up with COVID19 timing, this rescue of the children was used during this time. Wherever the virus came from, whether it was planned or just happened (weird how some of them line up with election years), Intelligence will find out, if they haven't already.

Who does the NSA work for? Who did certain Gov't agencies THINK the NSA would be working for, after 2016 election? Can you imagine if there are big secrets they thought would be safe, are now totally known by Trump?

Mass shootings can't happen right now. Mass protests are gone, no Caravans marching to the US border (did anybody believe a father carried a baby in his arms for 400 miles straight? What a farce) So what can "they" do to guide the media narrative? Weird stuff, like driving trains into the hospital ships. Watch for buses. And I hate to say this, I hope nobody attacks any hospitals.

I'm just waiting it out, saving the world by watching TV. We'll see what happens, not much we can do about any of it.


I had read a report that as of a couple of days ago, there was reportedly ‘only’ 20-40 patients in the one at NYC, and there was big mystery surrounding that: If the NYC area hospitals are overwhelmed with sick and dieing, why are they so few patients at this boat hospital?

[rockgremlin]

and from the spouse's point of view:

https://www.therunnerstrip.com/2020/03/diary-of-72-hours-during-an-unfolding-catastrophe/

Don't bother. It's another Trump bashing piece. From the article:

"And perhaps the most unsettling thing is the asinine, dangerous president."

Wow she's so enlightened. So progressive. :roll:

[erial]

Don't bother. It's another Trump bashing piece. From the article:

"And perhaps the most unsettling thing is the asinine, dangerous president."

Wow she's so enlightened. So progressive. :roll:


C'mon, she's an accomplished runner despite having two left feet.

[BasinCruiser]

How do you continue to power the fear and panic when you thought it couldn’t get any worse? Gift the numbers to increase the death more than it is to retain panic and control.


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https://www.westernjournal.com/cdc-tells-hospitals-list-covid-cause-death-even-just-assuming-contributed/

[middlefork]

The ships are not for Covid-19 patients.
And I'm sorry but Beech did you fall off your E-bike and bump your head?

This site is a breath of fresh air.

[BasinCruiser]

blueeyes- is there any truth or validity in this? Or is this rubbish?

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https://www.defendingutah.org/post/2020/04/04/the-data-is-not-true-fraudulent-testing-not-specifically-for-covid-19

[Sombeech]

The ships are not for Covid-19 patients.
And I'm sorry but Beech did you fall off your E-bike and bump your head?

This site is a breath of fresh air.Gimme a week to figure it out

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[BasinCruiser]

So, what’s really is the difference in the response and reaction to Chinese Wuhan Virus (CWV) compared to H1N1? Why are the hospitals in the hotspots being overwhelmed? Was H1N1 less spreadable, age has more of a gradual climb that was more like a trickle that slowly grew andSight need ventilators, and is CWV more easily spreadable and requires more equipment? Or are they just taking more drastic measures trying to save as many people as possible? I’m not condemning the effort and objective if that’s the case, just trying to understand the difference in responses in the medical field, government, and Msm.


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[Iceaxe]

^^^The biggest difference is Trump is President. Liberals and their "news" mouthpiece will do anything to remove him from power, including destroy the nation.

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[BasinCruiser]

^^^The biggest difference is Trump is President. Liberals and their "news" mouthpiece will do anything to remove him from power, including destroy the nation.

Climb-Utah.com


Back then, I hardly paid shy attention to any news. But, were the hospitals back then overwhelmed like they are now in spots, but the media just didn’t cover it? Or are none of the hospitals overwhelmed like the media is making it sound?

[BasinCruiser]

When it’s during a crisis, it’s called sacrifice and putting themselves in danger. During normal times, it’s called tyranny.


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94484

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/04/york-county-woman-faces-200-ticket-from-state-police-under-gov-wolfs-stay-at-home-order.html

[oldno7]

So, what’s really is the difference in the response and reaction to Chinese Wuhan Virus (CWV) compared to H1N1? Why are the hospitals in the hotspots being overwhelmed? Was H1N1 less spreadable, age has more of a gradual climb that was more like a trickle that slowly grew andSight need ventilators, and is CWV more easily spreadable and requires more equipment? Or are they just taking more drastic measures trying to save as many people as possible? I’m not condemning the effort and objective if that’s the case, just trying to understand the difference in responses in the medical field, government, and Msm.


94485

until it's over and the data analyzed we likely won't know.

depend on who does the analyzing we still might never know.

But it's slowly feeling more and more we've been duped to a certain extent.

There was no one screaming the sky is falling with H1N1.

With covid-19 everyone has had a turn screaming the sky is falling.

If this turns into a mostly media driven event, covid will claim many more lives:angryfire:

[oldno7]

^^^The biggest difference is Trump is President. Liberals and their "news" mouthpiece will do anything to remove him from power, including destroy the nation.

Climb-Utah.com

If this turns out to be the extent, there will be a un civil, civil war and the dnc media will be the eye of America's scorn.

[blueeyes]

blueeyes- is there any truth or validity in this? Or is this rubbish?

94482

https://www.defendingutah.org/post/2020/04/04/the-data-is-not-true-fraudulent-testing-not-specifically-for-covid-19No this is not true.

We have a test that has been in use for a couple years now and they do test for 4 human Coronaviruses. It is part of the Biofire respiratory panel. The panel tests for 17 different viral targets and 4 bacterial targets. Not every hospital will have this platform but it is one I am familiar with.

Here is a link to the CDC that talks about the 4 human Coronaviruses. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/general-information.html

There maybe a nonspecific test out there that tests in general for these 4 human Coronaviruses and maybe that is what this person who doesn't want to be identified is talking about but that is not the same as the Covid-19 testing.

Current Zoonotic Covid-19 testing is specific for Covid-19. As long as you have the correct RNA target sequence, or "primers" which we do, you can develop a test that is specific for that virus.

CDC has examples listed here

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/rt-pcr-panel-primer-probes.html

They say you can't use these for diagnostic purposes. It is because you can't just willy nilly start testing without proper approval. But these sequences are the same they would use to develop tests.

When real time PCR testing is preformed correctly the viral RNA is extracted and ONLY the target sequence is amplified not just any viral RNA.

My only issue with the rapid test Abbott came out with is with Negative results. If your viral load is below detection limits or there is some interfering substance then a negative could be a false negative. I would absolutely trust a positive test but if it came back negative and I WAS exhibiting symptoms I would want a back up test.

Antibody testing is another type of test. Usually done by ELISA. This is not the only way to test for antibodies but probably the most common in a general lab. What that stands for is Enzyme linked immunoabsorbent assay. It uses antigens specific for the target antibody to determine if you have been exposed to the virus.

If you want I can see if I can find some good videos on YouTube that explain both types of testing.





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[oldno7]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/236302/56D9900D-C707-4AC3-ACF2-77A506E636B0_jpe-1351537.jpg

[Iceaxe]

Covid-19 will bankrupt thousands more people then it kills - and that's the real National emergency.

Climb-Utah.com

[BasinCruiser]

Snitches no longer get stitches - they go straight to the ditches.

At this point, probably best to quit asking how much more Orwellian things can get - they seem to be taking it as a challenge.


94486


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/04/04/la-mayor-garcetti-says-snitches-get-rewards-for-ratting-out-their-neighbors-n2566348

[BasinCruiser]

Anyone else turning the GPS tracking off of their phone? Would it even help, or will Apple/ Samsung start pushing out a firmware update to be able to just turn it back on?


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[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

I had read a report that as of a couple of days ago, there was reportedly ‘only’ 20-40 patients in the one at NYC, and there was big mystery surrounding that: If the NYC area hospitals are overwhelmed with sick and dieing, why are they so few patients at this boat hospital?


Found it.


94489


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/03/1000-bed-usns-comfort-only-had-20-patients-aboard/

[BasinCruiser]

Why would anyone trust anything coming out of China right now, especially Virus testing and emergency supplies?


94490

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/coronavirus-testing-kits-heading-to-the-uk-found-to-be-contaminated-with-covid-19/ar-BB11YhSx?li=BBqdg4K

[oldno7]

Anyone else turning the GPS tracking off of their phone? Would it even help, or will Apple/ Samsung start pushing out a firmware update to be able to just turn it back on?


94487

I really hope thats not real.

I know it's Scotland but I've heard the same tracking being shared here.

I know our phones track us, they make it almost impossible to use any apps without forfeiting that feature.

But if this info is given to the government, we have a problem.

[BasinCruiser]

I really hope thats not real.

I know it's Scotland but I've heard the same tracking being shared here.

I know our phones track us, they make it almost impossible to use any apps without forfeiting that feature.

But if this info is given to the government, we have a problem.


Are they tracking us? I have no doubt. look at the privacy and civil liberties we lost after 9/11.


94491

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-and-europe-turn-to-phone-tracking-strategies-to-halt-spread-of-coronavirus-11585906203

[oldno7]

This needs to happen, yesterday or sooner.

Donald Trump Thinking of 2nd Coronavirus Task Force Focused on Reopening Country


The president detailed his desire to reopen the country during a White House press briefing.
“We have to open our country,” Trump said, repeating that “the cure cannot be worse than the problem itself.”
Trump endorsed the idea of a second task force on Twitter on Saturday after it was proposed by Fox News host Dana Perino on Twitter.
“Good idea Dana!” he wrote.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/04/04/donald-trump-thinking-of-2nd-coronavirus-task-force-focused-on-reopening-country/

[oldno7]

Seems pretty informative to a layman


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=508&v=NRzddVgSyho&feature=emb_ logo

[BasinCruiser]

When Russia sees what’s going on in America with extreme measures being taken to control the people, whether it’s arresting: pastors for holding church service, dining people for going out for a drive, threatening to shut off power and water to non- essential businesses, do they feel threatened that America is more communist than they are? How do they respond?


94493


https://thehill.com/policy/international/russia/490535-russian-lawmakers-approve-fines-prison-terms-for-spreading-false

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/24h7ttX.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/C3VLvuV.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

#PumpUpThoseNumbers


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[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

Not saying I’m buying into @Sombeech (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=6) theory, but something does seem strange with these hospital ships.

94498


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/its-a-joke-hospital-ships-nearly-empty-as-medical-facilities-struggle-to-find-space-for-coronavirus-patients

[caverdan]

..

[Iceaxe]

...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200405/7e3bde3c5012a135f046cb8a7527a688.jpg

Climb-Utah.com

[oldno7]

Apparently the Country is catching on to tabloid tv.


CNN Bombs in First Quarter, Fails to Crack Top 20 in Ratings

According to an article (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/04/03/sucking-cnn-anti-trump-network-fails-to-get-one-show-to-crack-top-20-in-first-qu-n2566268) posted on Friday by Matt Vespa, the senior editor for Townhall declared:
As liberal networks debate whether to pull broadcasting pressers from the President of the United States because they don’t like him, … Trump has made the network his top punching bag, and rightfully so.
It’s no secret that the top brass at CNN hate Trump.

Of course, Fox News continues to dominate the cable ratings (https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/randy-hall/2020/04/01/fox-news-dominates-ratings-coverage-impeachment-coronavirus) while “even MSNBC, who hates Trump even more, was able to break into the top 20 on multiple fronts.”

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/randy-hall/2020/04/03/cnn-fails-crack-top-20-ratings-list-during-dismal-first-quarter

[BasinCruiser]

What’s REALLY going on in the hospitals?



http://youtu.be/ZqS0t2mIxEg

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

What happens when revenue runs low? There is forced reduction in hours and staffing, even in medical care. This is your healthcare on socialism. Only difference- rather than few patients coming and and low revenue, there would be overwhelming patients coming in, and low revenue.




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https://news.yahoo.com/doctors-nurses-getting-hit-pay-132300015.html?soc_src=hl-viewer&soc_trk=fb

[BasinCruiser]

#FilmYourHospitol


”As part of my investigation, I went back to Good Samaritan Hospital (DT LA) to film inside their ER this time.I was screened before I was allowed in and I was asked if I had a fever or cough and so on. I said NO to all of them. THIS nurse marked down YES to all the questions!
I corrected her and she apologized profusely! This NURSE actually thought I wouldn't notice or say something. I mean I caught her on the 4th question as you SEE she scribbles out the wrong answer and then just gets a new paper!
She was trying to falsify hospital records!
Glad to report to you that what I've been saying and many others as well is TRUE. They are trying HARD to make this flu a real thing!!
And don't come at me with this is an isolated incident, you're lying to yourself to hold on to your false illusions.
My beloved BELIEVERS remember Scripture PROMISES to make what is done in the dark come to LIGHT.”

94502

94503

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1664412367034408/permalink/1670292166446428/

[Sombeech]

We should see other illness caused deaths take a drop, since most of them are being scratched out and blamed on the Crona instead. Just like pneumonia. The truth is, we may see LESS overall deaths from combined illness this season in comparison to these past few years, like from flu, pneumonia, common cold, and other "catch all" labels.

The 'crona is causing everybody to stay quarantined and this will prevent mass death numbers from other infections diseases.

Let's wait and see though, but could you imagine Trump showing the overall disease count by this summer, and less people died overall? Very possible. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200405/07f4e1fb6aed180524fcd0f732676cc3.jpg

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[dougrz]

94499Can you post a better rez version. I want to read the source and find it online.

[BasinCruiser]

Can you post a better rez version. I want to read the source and find it online.


https://twitter.com/Inevitable_ET/status/1246860418385162241?s=20

Edit: Sorry the link doesn't work. I looked up the twitter handle for that guy - @Inevitable_ET and found that post in his timeline. He has links to a couple of CDC pages, but i couldn't find that graph on either of those pages. But, you may be able to see the graph better there and get the reference source for it.

Hope that helps.

[Scott Card]

if you believe in a God and you believe in prayer, I invite you to join me on Friday to fast and pray.

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[BasinCruiser]

Let's suppose that every person in the USA had all of the supplies they needed, food, toiletries, meds, necessities for 2 months, and every person in USA litterally locked themselves in their house and didn't leave their house for 2 months. The only people to ever not be at home are those that are sick and at the hospital, and the docs and nurses and hospital maintenance - they stay and remain at the hospitol. Nobody leaves their house, no recreation, no need for shipping anything - no truckers, no travel needed. Everyone stays inside for 2 full months. There are no new infections. All of the currrently infected runs their respective course - they either get better and are fully healed, or regretrably pass away, so in 2 months there are zero (0) infections in the USA.

Then what? Do we start going back to normal again? Do we open up the borders at all for anything? If we ever open the borders for anything, within a few weeks, an infected will get into the USA and it will all start spreading again, and we will be right back where we were 2+ months ago.

Many people keep public shaming others for not staying home under the premise that if everyone just stayed home, the spread will cease, and in a few weeks, we can all go back to normal. How so? No matter how much drastic measures we take to stop the spread, even if it was allowed to completely die out in USA due to absolute isolation, the rest of the world has infected people.

I can respect the logic behind the 'flatten the curve' argument. But, that argument is only applicable to maintaining a low enough infected population to not overwhelm and deplete the scarce medical resources needed to aid those that are sick. It doesn't stop the spread altogether. And until the majority of the population has been infected and/or has built up immunity, we can never go back to any semblance of normalcy, and kickstart the economy back into motion.

So, outside of 'flattening the curve', what good does it do for me to stay at home?

[BruteForce]

I had to hit my local Instacare yesterday for stitches to my nose. The place was empty save for staff. They screened me at the door, took my temp and processed me in. I had my stitches and was on my way home in less than 30 minutes. Not one mention of COV19. No mass hoards of sick and dying.

[blueeyes]

https://www.ksl.com/article/46738381/pregnant-mom-hospitalized-in-idaho-with-covid-19-husband-speaks-out-about-lack-of-testing

I worked at this hospital for 4 years. Last week they only had 3 COVID-19 patients. Now they have 6. Not overwhelming yet. I think they have close to 30 ICU beds..

They are level II Trauma and the only Level I ICU in Idaho. Ther post last week said 2 of their patients came from out of state. Which is common given their Trauma and ICU status.

Anyway I can't imagine how scary being pregnant and not being able to breathe.



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[BasinCruiser]

Remember the meme that suggests of Trump cured cancer, the Libs would blow up about it say he had no right to do that?

While I’m not giving Trump credit for curing Chinese Wuhan Virus, they are basically doing this in real life to him now for mentioning the malaria drug.

94505

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-crimes-against-humanity-hydroxychloroquine-fauci-coronavirus-tavia-galonski-1496280?fbclid=IwAR0ZfM9RvnkgfyaLqoKjsMJuLCyZgMOg_ LLsYQ3a5_dhHpXXQ8Jv5LMuxH0




And all of this, despite growing evidence that it is helping save lives.


94506

https://nypost.com/2020/04/05/ny-coronavirus-patients-being-treated-with-anti-malarial-drug/


Tell me how TDS isn’t a legitimized mental disease recognized by the mental health community.

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/qAnudPP.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/T1Q4FEC.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/gNU81qY.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/tqKcWeM.jpg

[oldno7]

https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/01-cnn-words-la-600.jpg

[oldno7]

https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/01-emp-clothes-li-600.jpg

[oldno7]

http://www.floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/payn_c17272420200402120100.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/e74fUVi.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/6gEPvPh.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/f6gjXx7.png

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/ullnkUb.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/kBpU39g.gif

[blueeyes]

https://i.imgflip.com/3vdcfz.gif

[accadacca]

https://i.ibb.co/849zX08/9-AA23462-4-E05-45-A3-B5-A4-1-A04-B3642-EB2.jpg

[accadacca]

New Projection Shows Fewer Potential COVID-19 Deaths In Utah

https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

SALT LAKE CITY, Utah – The University of Washington has updated its COVID-19 projections.

The university’s numbers have previously been used by the White House to show potential deaths in the United States related to the coronavirus.

The most recent projections show improved numbers for Utah. Last week’s model showed the Beehive State could suffer nearly 600 deaths by August. The new model has now predicted 186 deaths by August, with a peak of seven deaths in one day.

https://ksltv.com/434750/covid-19-deaths-in-utah/

[accadacca]

https://i.ibb.co/VShRmr6/962-FADC1-FD3-A-4896-A676-45-F38-E1-C328-E.jpg

[accadacca]

Oh geez...

Malibu paddleboarder arrested for ignoring stay-at-home order

https://i.ibb.co/kB8qfpF/8283-AC0-C-4-BFF-4-AB5-AF34-EE1602-CE9899.jpg


https://fox5sandiego.com/news/coronavirus/malibu-paddleboarder-arrested-for-ignoring-stay-at-home-order/?fbclid=IwAR3Y06v8oU8Fq6ACNxplhlMoywm3qa4fY3WxAqsd xOKRWQQk5z3FZXmlaTo

[accadacca]

Chinese tourist sites packed as country comes out of lockdown, but experts say risk still high

https://i.ibb.co/SnpCLzR/6618-E9-F0-F203-4-E31-8185-E991-D3612-C12.jpg


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/06/asia/china-coronavirus-tourist-warning-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_content=2020-04-06T10%3A00%3A17&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR2FAgJmDlE2kQBEy2xhgBmZHaLwg7H4MwT02jxPW rsn4pUMgI1wpq2bvIY

[dougrz]

Chinese tourist sites packed as country comes out of lockdown, but experts say risk still high

https://i.ibb.co/SnpCLzR/6618-E9-F0-F203-4-E31-8185-E991-D3612-C12.jpg


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/06/asia/china-coronavirus-tourist-warning-intl-hnk/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_content=2020-04-06T10%3A00%3A17&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR2FAgJmDlE2kQBEy2xhgBmZHaLwg7H4MwT02jxPW rsn4pUMgI1wpq2bvIYA friend of mine living in China came to visit last year. He kept commenting how amazing it was to just walk around and visit sites not jammed wall to wall with people, like in that photo.

One of the undiscussed reasons to stop immigration. Plain crowdedness.

[oldno7]

Looks like Idaho is shaping up.


Resources needed for COVID-19 patients on peak date

All beds needed
151beds




All beds available
1,817beds




Bed shortage
0beds





ICU beds needed
31beds




ICU beds available
151beds




ICU bed shortage
0beds





Invasive ventilators needed
26ventilators

[oldno7]

Sorry, I can't copy off that site for some reason^^^^^

Information is there, I screwed up format.


https://covid19.healthdata.org/

[rockgremlin]

Chinese tourist sites packed as country comes out of lockdown, but experts say risk still high

https://i.ibb.co/SnpCLzR/6618-E9-F0-F203-4-E31-8185-E991-D3612-C12.jpg





This looks like the Angel's Landing hike in Zion in the days before Coronavirus.

[blueeyes]

Ortho Diagnostics has an antibody test they are ready to roll out.

https://www.orthoclinicaldiagnostics.com/en-us/home/covid-19-antibody-test-released-by-ortho-clinical-diagnostics?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Facebook&utm_campaign=COVID-19+Antibody+Test&fbclid=IwAR0YTXnmIGoPyzeE5GJgkgiwchY-BO7wcbNgDIr_XgWLczf9oDg1i3DSJLE



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[Sombeech]

Illegal Border crossings are at a standstill, CBP only dealt with 80 people compared to 30k. There are a lot of benefits to this quarantine

[Sombeech]

A very rough 2 weeks coming up, "facing a war zone". What do you think he meant by this?

This was almost a week ago, so another "very rough week". Let's get through this week and see what kind of "rough stuff" we went through, and exactly what kind of "warfare" happened, with this "invisible enemy". Keywords there, look back on them after this.

Do you think he's only talking about the mass deaths from COVID?

Think about the other illnesses and deaths that have declined.

Did we have devastating and dark times in years past, from the tens of thousands of flu deaths?

He says the deaths could likely look like "World War" death numbers.

Interesting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPq8X3CEy0M

[accadacca]

USA Today...feeding the scare tactics.

https://i.ibb.co/LkYW5fx/3-EC5-E6-F3-0123-4-B58-A7-A6-08-C2-F33630-A6.jpg

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/04/06/coronavirus-death-toll-us-reaches-10000-six-wars-combined/2949285001/

[BasinCruiser]

Why isn’t this all over the tabloid MSM?

94508

https://www.theblaze.com/news/la-doctor-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-coronavirus

[oldno7]

Why isn’t this all over the tabloid MSM?

94508

https://www.theblaze.com/news/la-doctor-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-coronavirus

because orange man bad--we need biden to turn this around

[rockgremlin]

Why isn’t this all over the tabloid MSM?

94508

https://www.theblaze.com/news/la-doctor-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-coronavirus


Because Trump said these drugs are potentially groundbreaking medicines in the fight against Covid19.

Errrrrrrrr.....I mean....it's because these drugs haven't gone through years and years of FDA trials. If the FDA hasn't explicitly signed off on the use of these drugs for the treatment of Covid19 then their use is reckless and dangerous and should be openly condemned. Testimonials to the contrary are fake news and only trying to get Trump reelected. :roll:

[oldno7]

I think this was the complete recommend:

.. hydroxycholoroquine, zinc, azithromycin, IV vit C.

No clue on dosage

I believe it needed to be administered very early on.

[oldno7]

Very interesting read, slightly over my pay grade, again.

Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.


Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.


https://archive.fo/mEjnX#selection-327.0-327.633

[Iceaxe]

I think this was the complete recommend:

.. hydroxycholoroquine, zinc, azithromycin, IV vit C.

No clue on dosage

I believe it needed to be administered very early on.
It's my understanding that hydroxycholoroquine is a drug used on Malaria and the dosage required for Covid-19 is substantially higher... I'm not an expert on the subject, but I watched a doctor using it discuss this exact topic on TV.

Climb-Utah.com

[blueeyes]

Very interesting read, slightly over my pay grade, again.

Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.


Eventually, if the patient’s immune system doesn’t fight off the virus in time before their blood oxygen saturation drops too low, ventilator or no ventilator, organs start shutting down. No fuel, no work. The only way to even try to keep them going is max oxygen, even a hyperbaric chamber if one is available on 100% oxygen at multiple atmospheres of pressure, just to give what’s left of their functioning hemoglobin a chance to carry enough o2 to the organs and keep them alive. Yeah we don’t have nearly enough of those chambers, so some fresh red blood cells with normal hemoglobin in the form of a transfusion will have to do.


https://archive.fo/mEjnX#selection-327.0-327.633

I do know that kidney damage is pretty significant. To the point they need dialysis. It is crazy how it shuts down other organ systems.

For those that get to this point and do come back I wonder what long term healthcare they are going to need?


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[accadacca]

https://i.ibb.co/YtBn3M0/3-DB35-C11-1-E17-4405-B33-F-2-AD72-EB189-AC.jpg

[savanna3313]

I do know that kidney damage is pretty significant. To the point they need dialysis. It is crazy how it shuts down other organ systems.

For those that get to this point and do come back I wonder what long term healthcare they are going to need?


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It's pretty scary how pneumonia - no matter how it's caused (coronovirus, etc...) can go from not very serious, to life threatening. I had this happen to me about 10 years ago. Not feeling well and I decided to go to a "doc in the box", was given meds, antibiotics and a breathing treatment and sent home. By 2 am, I was in the ER on IV antiobiotics and oxygen due to double pneumonia and an oxygen saturation level of 72. Not good. Ended up being in the hospital for almost 10 days. No respirator, but constant oxygen and 3x a day breathing treatments. I knew I wasn't feeling the best, but that level of sickness? :ne_nau: Could've been the H1N1, but I was never told. Moral of the story - don't take anything for granted when it comes to your health. If in doubt, check it out! :2thumbs:

[accadacca]

Listening to the Utah daily briefing.

Reporter, “Do you recommend people getting tested if they are asymptomatic?”

Which has been answered 1,000 times already and is so obvious if you have half a brain.

The media can’t figure out why some of the public think they are so clueless....[emoji849]

[Sombeech]

So, a combo that is proving to lift symptoms of 'crona, is also known to be a long time Malaria cure... who is big into anti Malaria vaccines, and has been for some time? (Bill Gates)

Isn't it weird that a guy like Bill Gates often says he would like the world population to shrink by about 10%, but also wants to create a CURE for lethal diseases? Dubya Tee Eff, why not let the disease deaths help out?

Think that one through.

Then look at how hard Billy boy is pushing for EVERYBODY to get a vaccine. He wants tracking.

Keep this in mind a couple of months down the road. Just stuff to mull over in your quarantine time.

[blueeyes]

https://khn.org/news/mysterious-heart-damage-not-just-lung-troubles-befalling-covid-19-patients/

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[oldno7]

So, a combo that is proving to lift symptoms of 'crona, is also known to be a long time Malaria cure... who is big into anti Malaria vaccines, and has been for some time? (Bill Gates)

Isn't it weird that a guy like Bill Gates often says he would like the world population to shrink by about 10%, but also wants to create a CURE for lethal diseases? Dubya Tee Eff, why not let the disease deaths help out?

Think that one through.

Then look at how hard Billy boy is pushing for EVERYBODY to get a vaccine. He wants tracking.

Keep this in mind a couple of months down the road. Just stuff to mull over in your quarantine time.

Saw this posted on another site,

This morning at 4:30 a.m., Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was served a criminal indictment by the U.S. for corporate and financial crimes. Media owners were instructed to brainwash everyone that Trudeau and his wife have the Corona virus, and that they won't be leaving their house for a while.

Tom Hanks was arrested 48 hours ago for pedophilia and he is currently being kept in a hotel room in Australia, refusing to fly back to the USA. The next celebrity arrests will be Celine Dion, Madonna, Charles Barkley, and Kevin Spacey. All will claim Corona virus infections.

Italy's airports have been completely shut down, as over 80 Vatican and financial officials have been served the same criminal indictments for financial crime, pedophilia, child trafficking, and sex abuse.

United Emirates have completed mass arrests of their own Royal Family and affiliates.

Convicted Hollywood rapist Harvey Weinstein agreed to a deal in exchange for his testimony against hundreds of top Hollywood celebrities and their involvement in the drug business, pedophilia, and child trafficking. Instead of a 55-year sentence, he only received a 23-year sentence. In exchange he provided testimonies against some of the biggest and most powerful names, including Prince Andrew of the U.K., former president Bill Clinton, former vice president Joe Biden, Tom Hanks, Oprah, Ellen DeGeneres, Quentin Tarantino, Charlie Sheen, Bob Saget, Kevin Spacey, John Travolta, Steven Spielberg, Podesta, NXIVM and PIZZAGATE sex trafficking clubs, and hundreds more who all were directly involved with Jeffrey Epstein
Jeffrey Epstein was similarly allowed to make a deal and have his suicide in prison faked in exchange for his testimony.

CEOs of some major world corporations have been indicted/arrested, and some have been forced to resign all in the last 30-60 days such as the CEOs of the NBA, Harley Davidson, the Bill Gates Foundation, Intel, McDonald's, Cesar Awards, and Disney; the Vatican Chief of Police; etc. Approximately 700-800 more resignations are coming in the next 3 months.

The lab-created Corona virus was a cover-up for the mass mandatory vaccination agenda. Now it has become the biggest covert U.S. Intelligence operation that the world has ever seen. This mass 158,000-arrests operation will remove and capture the biggest evil and corrupted politicians, celebrities, and CEOs, including global elites and bankers such as George Soros, U.N. officials, and the founders of GRETA, inc.

President Trump will win the 2020 elections, and arrests of former U.S. presidents will occur in early 2021. All major arrests will be portrayed by the media as accidental or as conspiracy theories. All arrested individuals will be given "Rommel Death", meaning that they will have a choice between their death bring portrayed to the public as a suicide or an accidental death in return for assurances that his or her reputation will remain intact, or, alternatively, they can choose to face a criminal trial that would result in public disgrace.

Some top religious leaders will be arrested or forced to resign, and some will suddenly get "sick." The Vatican will be the first, and the Pope will be removed in 2020. Production of human extracted Adrenochrome will be revealed, and Hollywood and the Vatican will be exposed as being directly responsible for that.

Coming up there will be a 2-month complete shutdown of the world's most common operations, such as schools, the stock exchange, some banks, airports, shipping, travel, events, galas, expos, sport games, sport championships, music award ceremonies, NBA/NHL/Baseball games, and ship cruises. (TEMPORARY)>> There will be food shortages and staged electricity power loss. Gas prices will go down, food costs will go up, insurance will go up, gold and silver stocks will fall, and many corporations will either go bankrupt or take a significant financial loss, such as in the case of what's about to happen to Air Canada, Disney, and Coca-Cola.

Welcome to the Geat Awakening. What's about to happen this summer and fall will change the world's history



Do we need to buy guns??:ne_nau:

Or just more TP?

[oldno7]

CBS fake news--

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1247163898584760320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

WATCH: CBS News Posts Fraudulent Video Of ICU Nurse Crying Over Poor Working Conditions (https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/06/cbs-news-posts-fraudulent-video-icu-nurse-crying-over-poor-working-conditions/)

The video now appears to be inaccurate. Instead of verifying the legitimacy of the video, CBS added background music and captions to highlight a woman who lied about her workplace situation. The woman, who goes by Imaris on social media, has a prominent following on Instagram. (https://www.instagram.com/nurse.iv/)

So it turns out this video is entirely fraudulent. https://t.co/2axIrXK4LA
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel) April 6, 2020 (https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1247163898584760320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Prior to CBS picking up this video, Imaris posted on her public Facebook page that she has anxiety and bi-polar depression and had not been an employee at the hospital for over a year. She mentioned in her post that she was unsure if she was ready to return to her job.
Imaris also said the growing volume of information on coronavirus “triggers” her.
“The information overload can be hard for me to sift through as far as what is credible and what is not, it triggers me,” she wrote in a Facebook post.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/06/cbs-news-posts-fraudulent-video-icu-nurse-crying-over-poor-working-conditions/

[rockgremlin]

CBS fake news--

https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1247163898584760320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

WATCH: CBS News Posts Fraudulent Video Of ICU Nurse Crying Over Poor Working Conditions (https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/06/cbs-news-posts-fraudulent-video-icu-nurse-crying-over-poor-working-conditions/)

The video now appears to be inaccurate. Instead of verifying the legitimacy of the video, CBS added background music and captions to highlight a woman who lied about her workplace situation. The woman, who goes by Imaris on social media, has a prominent following on Instagram. (https://www.instagram.com/nurse.iv/)
So it turns out this video is entirely fraudulent. https://t.co/2axIrXK4LA
— Jordan Schachtel (@JordanSchachtel) April 6, 2020 (https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1247163898584760320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Prior to CBS picking up this video, Imaris posted on her public Facebook page that she has anxiety and bi-polar depression and had not been an employee at the hospital for over a year. She mentioned in her post that she was unsure if she was ready to return to her job.
Imaris also said the growing volume of information on coronavirus “triggers” her.
“The information overload can be hard for me to sift through as far as what is credible and what is not, it triggers me,” she wrote in a Facebook post.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/06/cbs-news-posts-fraudulent-video-icu-nurse-crying-over-poor-working-conditions/


Jussie Smollet 2.0

[rockgremlin]

Saw this posted on another site,

This morning at 4:30 a.m., Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was served a criminal indictment by the U.S. for corporate and financial crimes. Media owners were instructed to brainwash everyone that Trudeau and his wife have the Corona virus, and that they won't be leaving their house for a while......


What website was that? Sombeech's Facebook page? :lol8::lol8:



Here's some light reading for all those out there taking a page out of the Ultra-Left playbook: https://www.mediamatters.org/fake-news/heres-what-led-hoax-about-oprah-being-arrested-trending-twitter


Let's not stoop to the level of CNN and other mass media outlets publishing outright lies.

"We are men of action. Lies do not become us..."

[oldno7]

https://kekpe.pe/i/5e868fd3b704f.jpg

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[accadacca]

The USNS Comfort is now open for Covid patients.

[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

It's coming and I can see schiff for brains running it..


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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[rockgremlin]

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66115/1586206427559_png-1354452.JPG

Holy crap it's a real quote.

https://youtu.be/vt7WPjsYl44

This guy has completely lost his marbles! :crazy:

[BasinCruiser]

Is extreme isolation actually hurting the population in the long run?


94509


https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/03/why-severe-social-distancing-might-actually-result-in-more-coronavirus-deaths/

[blueeyes]

Holy crap it's a real quote.

https://youtu.be/vt7WPjsYl44

This guy has completely lost his marbles! :crazy:I absolutely agree...
Zero surprise this is a real quote. He is not playing with a full deck.

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[Sombeech]

Theory, guess;

Boris is sick with 'crona in England. I think he'll get bad enough and in the public eye, suspense, and then he'll use hydroxychloroquine to show the WORLD how fast he recovers. Undeniable proof, busting through any lies, if it happens.

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[accadacca]

https://i.ibb.co/bdJkght/55-D09-A11-2253-4716-8-DF6-46-F5-E2-AF6741.jpg

[accadacca]

The only states with balls...

https://i.ibb.co/k6215SW/47826-F28-901-D-40-D6-96-BC-DB19-BE41779-F.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Does Fauci have an agenda?

94511


https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-us-going-back-to-pre-coronavirus-state-may-never-happen-2020-4

[oldno7]

The only states with balls...

https://i.ibb.co/k6215SW/47826-F28-901-D-40-D6-96-BC-DB19-BE41779-F.jpg

Will be very interesting looking at this in the rearview mirror.

Some states are a natural for social distancing.

I'm a little surprised Idaho locked down.

Montana has too many transplant califorian's to think rationally.

In the end, how does it all play out?:ne_nau:

No one knows.

[blueeyes]

Nurses who were protesting lack of night shift staff for the patient load were asked to leave.


https://www.facebook.com/arabianking313/videos/10222759815166354/

https://www.freep.com/story/news/health/2020/04/06/detroit-dmc-sinai-grace-nurses/2953385001/

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