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And todays brilliant new democrat inspired adjective:


horse-faced lesbian

[devo_stevo]

Warren wasn't pulling any punches there. I gotta say, she did a good job. Biggest balls on that stage, for sure.

[Iceaxe]

I was happy to see the real Bloomberg on stage last night and not the slick polished image his TV ads make him out to be. Bloomberg has no personality and is not a very likable person and that was on full display.

Pocahontas was on the war path and beat Bloomberg like a rented mule. I thought Warren was finished after NH but her performance last night might give her a chance to get back in the race. Without doubt Warren was the big winner of the debate.

Sleepy Joe looked just like every other elderly tourist wandering around Vegas staring at the pretty lights while lost and confused. He needs to get out of the race because South Carolina will not save him.

Sanders, who has refused to actually join the Democratic party, is still the Democratic front runner, but there was nothing special about his performance. Sanders threw some punches, but also took some hits. Sanders might win the nomination but will get slaughtered in the general.

Meh... is all I can say about everyone else on stage as none of them did anything to help their campaign or boost them in the polls, which means they did poorly.

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[dougr]

Latest 538 projections. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/ Their methodology relies on analyzing and weighting polls. Of course polls move dramatically in days, so this is a snapshot with polls remaining as they are for months, is my understanding.

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[dougr]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/02/19/bloomberg-recommended-confronting-native-american-tribes-with-cowboy-hat-shotgun/

I like his underlying non-PC heart. But these old comments mean he'd become a Ralph Northam leftist on steroids to make amends.

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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mike-bloombergs-chances-to-win-democratic-nod-white-house-plummet-after-rocky-debate-162906497.html (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mike-bloombergs-chances-to-win-democratic-nod-white-house-plummet-after-rocky-debate-162906497.html)

Smarkets (https://smarkets.com/event/886734/politics/us/us-presidential-election-2020/democratic-nominee-2020?utm_source=cision&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pp030220), Real Clear Politics (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/democratic_2020_nomination/) and Paddy Power are reflecting a decline in Bloomberg’s odds, with Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders gaining momentum and remaining a favorite to win Nevada’s caucus this weekend.

Bloomberg, who was excoriated by Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-bloomberg-is-shedding-his-wall-street-baggage-180508408.html) in the opening minutes of Wednesday’s debate, took a brutal drubbing during the two-hour debate and never recovered. Smarkets bettors cut the billionaire’s chances in half — to 15% from 31%— while Paddy Power’s markets saw his odds tumble to 22.2%, from 33.3%.

Meanwhile, bets on both RCP and Smarkets estimate Sanders is the prohibitive favorite to secure the Democratic nomination. Bettors see a 50% chance he’ll do so, and he’s projected to have a delegate lead (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/) that may soon become hard to surmount.

To wit:

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[Iceaxe]

The red wave is forming....

Republican revenge: Record GOP field forms, on 2020 mission to take down ‘socialists’

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republican-revenge-record-gop-field-forms-on-2020-mission-to-take-down-socialists

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[oldno7]

mcadams needs the boot.

he claimed he was independent but instead marched exactly to pelosi's tune.

I would hope the turnout south of point of the mountain speeks louder than the SL valley.

[oldno7]

The Economist: Tougher Immigration Policy Seems to Raise Wages


In both 2018 and 2019 nominal wages rose by more than 3%, the fastest growth since before the recession a decade ago. Americans at the bottom of the labour market are doing especially well. In the past year the wages of those without a high-school diploma have risen by nearly 10%. Intriguingly, this has come as America has turned considerably less friendly to immigrants, who are assumed by many to steal jobs from natives and lower the wages of less-educated folk. The two phenomena may be connected—but only for a while.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/pj-gladnick/2020/02/21/economist-tougher-immigration-policy-seems-raise-wages

[Iceaxe]

^^^Illegal immigrants will work for less money.... who would have ever guessed?!?

/EndSarcasm

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[oldno7]

^^^Illegal immigrants will work for less money.... who would have ever guessed?!?

/EndSarcasm

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logic and common sense are not democrat ideals, quite the opposite.

[dougr]

Update on state polling. The PPIC poll from a few days ago in CA is interesting. If no other candidate breaks the 15% threshold, Bernie would get all CA delegates. Would be almost unbeatable if that happens.

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Man---I love that Republicans have learned to fight:haha:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0I4vTHz9dw

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[dougrz]

Bloomberg releasing women from the NDAs!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mike-bloomberg-ndas-women-democratic-debate

One purported quote:

"What do I want?" Bloomberg allegedly said. "I want an exclusive, 10-year contract, an automatic extension, and I want you to pay me. And I want [oral sex]*from [name redacted]. Have you seen [name redacted] lately? Not bad for 50."

Inside Bloomberg beats the heart of Iceaxe, apparently.

[Iceaxe]

Man---I love that Republicans have learned to fight:haha:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0I4vTHz9dw
I like that the boat is a big ass capitalist boat... you know the type... the type that no socialist could afford unless they were part of the ruling elite.

But it's the type of boat just about any hard working capitalist can obtain if it's important enough them.

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[Iceaxe]

Inside Bloomberg beats the heart of Iceaxe, apparently.

Well damn... have you ever got a BJ from a really hot 50 y/o? Them mature chicks know shit that hot young women haven't even thought of yet... just sayin'...



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[Iceaxe]

Bernie is steamrolling through the Nevada primary.

After Bloomberg's massive choke job I don't see anyone that can stop Bernie from winning the Democratic nomination this time around.

So when are the Democrat swamp creature's going to start a Never Bernie campaign?

It's hard to believe the Democrats are going to nominate a socialist that honeymooned in the USSR and believes the American dream is in Venezuela.

[twotimer]

What amazes me about this whole thing is that when Obama left, he left nothing in his wake. The whole package was handed off to Hillary and her crew...and we all know how that went.

The only way the Dems have been able to win the big one is by making "pop superstars" out of their candidates...Obama, Clinton, Carter. Otherwise they're a fractured mess. Now they're going to have the Socialist stamp planted firmly on their asses with Bernie.

The election is already over. I have absolutely no concern about it whatsoever...for every person that votes for Bernie, eight more will vote for Trump.

Trump has laid waste to all that have opposed him...a pissed off old commie hasn't got a chance.

[dougr]

Shaping up to be a huge Bernie win. Bloomberg's implosion on stage was so deep, maybe some Dems wary of Sanders said, "To hell with it, Bloomberg is a joke, I want the ideological purity of Bernie."

As tempting as it is to say we've got a lock in Nov, demographics are still powerfully moving against us. But I can't deny this is good for us. The only better outcome is Bernie comes up just short in the delegate count and the Dems try to steal it from him in convention chaos. But I don't see how that happens. Odds are he'll get a majority of dels now.

[dougr]

Final RCP NV polling. Did show a big movement to Bernie late.

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[dougr]

Same glidepath in SC polls as in NV. We need some rally by anyone to inflict some damage on Bernie. Might Bloomberg go neg with his money?

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[twotimer]

We need some rally by anyone to inflict some damage on Bernie.

We do? Personally, I think things are going just great. Try to imagine what the old school Kennedy Democrats feel about this.

I know you're concerned with "changing demographics"...but I can't imagine all those aforementioned people have shit for brains. There aren't enough pissed off, low budget dummies around to make that much of a difference. I think the media hypes up the so called proletariat.

[Iceaxe]

If Bernie is nominated we will see a Trump landslide on election day... even better is Republicans might even be able to take back the house riding in on his coattails.

But.... Bloomberg is not gone yet. He will do much better in the next debate and all the moderate Democrats will jump back on his bandwagon chanting this is the real Bloomberg. Not to mention Bloomberg is probably the only realistic chance the Democrats have of stopping Bernie so they will have little choice but to back mini Mike.



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[oldno7]

klobachar was Trumps real threat, I thought she might fare better in Nevada,nope.

biden is dropping like a rock, SC will be his tell all.

bernie at this point is gaining momentum and appears the nomination is his to lose.

bloomberg aint Trump, he doesnt have the energy to fight and I think he slowly goes downhill.

His only hope is a brokered convention and buying superdelegates, not outside his wheelhouse at all.

There is a huge chasm seperating factions of the democrat party that will prove impossible to cross once a nominee is chosen.

They claim they will unite, time will reveal the truth but I don't see it.

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[twotimer]

If you haven't done it yet, go to Bernie's website. Check out what he's going to do in regards to all the various "issues"...

It's impossible. That guy is living in a fantasy world. The man is literally nothing more than a symbol of class envy...along with others that truly believe in unicorns that fart rainbows.

[devo_stevo]

If you haven't done it yet, go to Bernie's website. Check out what he's going to do in regards to all the various "issues"...

It's impossible. That guy is living in a fantasy world. The man is literally nothing more than a symbol of class envy...along with others that truly believe in unicorns that fart rainbows.
Holy cow. That's a lot of stuff in there. His "corporate accountability and democracy" section is especially interesting to me. The idea of giving workers ownership in the companies they work for is such a mess. The idea that a business owner, who has risked everything that he or she has to start a business, build that business, and employ people in that business should now just give up their rights to run it as they see fit is just wrong in my view. I don't see that going well.

Also, what the hell does he think that he can realistically do as the president? Everything there would require congressional support. I just don't see it happening.

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[BasinCruiser]

At this point, even many in the MSM and other leftist outlets are conceding the fact that the only 2 things that can keep Trump from winning re-election is a major downturn in the economy, or Trump himself just making a gigantic FUBAR.

Apparantly, concerns over supply line interuptions from this coronavirus is having an impact in the stock market, today. I know the stock market isn't an accurate measure of the health of the economy. But, how much worse will the virus conditions have to get before it starts actually making an impact on the economy? How bad does it have to get before it starts threatening Trump? How will he react to that?

(Conspiracy?) Theories exist that the 'release' or deliverance of this virus was from the Chinese government itself. How long before those theories tie the virus's supposed origin into the effect on the economy, and threatening Trump, and move to thetheory that the release of this virus was a planned event to accomplish what Spygate, Collusiongate, Muellergate, and Ukrainegate all failed to do?

In other words, could the release of this virus been a plan to keep Trump from being reelected?:ne_nau:

[Iceaxe]

The Coronavirus should disappear or at least become only a minor issue as the weather warms. The best thing for both the Coronavirus Virus and the stock market would be an early spring... where is that damn global warming when you need it?

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[Iceaxe]

I'm too old to live under socialism. I'm addicted to luxuries like toilet paper, electricity, food, clean water and shoes.

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[dougrz]

Fox out with a story on Bloomberg ads targeting Sanders. I saw his tweet about Sanders siding a bit with the NRA over the years. But we need more of the attack centered on his socialism. Will make for good, hard to heal discord within the party.

Obviously in the debate Bloomberg will go after Sanders. But Warren will go after Bloomberg again. Warren is angling for VP or a high appointment. She will probably again be an effective proxy for Sanders on stage.

[Iceaxe]

Warren will go after Bloomberg again. Warren is angling for VP or a high appointment.


^^^This^^^

Warren wants the VP slot and will become Bernies attack dog.

The big question is did Bloomberg learn anything from his hubris? Will he actually come prepared this time?



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[BasinCruiser]

As if on queue Rush links Coronavirus, at least the over hype dramatization of it, to the economy, in an effort to thwart Trump.

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But, in the end, will it work? Will it damage or injure Trump. Some talk is that many investors are using the Coronavirus scare as reasoning and justification to move manufacturing to the USA to mitigate threats to global supply lines in instances like this where a potential health pandemic could hurt production and shipping around the world. Wouldn’t that be a kick in the pants to come back and bite the media if their intent is to hurt Trump by over hyping this disease, if more jobs are brought here as a result of their scare tactics?

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Also, what the hell does he think that he can realistically do as the president? Everything there would require congressional support. I just don't see it happening.Neither do I. He'd have to have the Congress dominated with Socialists...and that sure isn't going to happen. The country isn't built that way.

He'd be a lame duck from day one. Sure would get the anarchists hopped up, though. He could only dictate foreign policy...and likely let our enemies run rough shod.

Another thing to consider is that whoever his VP is likely only one heart attack away from being the top dog.

Yep, doesn't look good for the Bernster.

I remember when I was a kid...seeing McGovern bumper stickers all over the place.

[dougr]

Damn, some seriously coordinated attacks on Bernie tonight. Bloomberg's ads, Steyer's strong words against "socialism" in that townhall, and the reasonable questioning of Bernie prompting his fact sheet of his programs' costs, which makes him look ridiculous.

Getting me worried he might be derailed.

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Another little gem from Bernie's website:
"Allow every post office to offer basic and affordable banking services and end lending discrimination."

Question. Who in their right mind has been to the Post Office and thought that the level of customer service and care is so great that I'd like to do my banking here? No offense intended if that's something that you've thought before, but it makes no sense.

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I also noticed that he doesn't mention the tax hikes for the middle class that he said that he would do. Come on Bernie. Tell the truth now. All I can say is that if you think the cost of living is high now, just wait until a clown like him is in charge of things.

[Iceaxe]

I noticed the #FAKENEWS networks (CNN, MSNBC) are hyping Sleepy Joe this morning as the best choice for President. It appears they suddenly realised they created a Bernie monster and are now trying to avoid the inevitable trainwreck.

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Yeah, I think that Bernie is the Trump of the democrat party. Like him or not, his supporters are rabid and they are turning out to vote for him to send a message to the establishment.

The difference is that he IS the establishment. He's never held a job in the private sector, but he seems to know what everyone in the private sector needs and wants.

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The difference is that he IS the establishment. Yep, and everyone knows it...even his supporters. That's why I say he's nothing more than a symbol.

A little black X that they can put on a piece of paper to show their disgust for those around them that have a nicer life. I don't think the Bernie folks necessarily hate Capitalism, it's just that they're not very good at it.

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Yep, and everyone knows it...even his supporters. That's why I say he's nothing more than a symbol.

A little black X that they can put on a piece of paper to show their disgust for those around them that have a nicer life. I don't think the Bernie folks necessarily hate Capitalism, it's just that they're not very good at it.
That's the thing, though. I know a few people that are VERY good at capitalism, and they are still Bernie fans. They are basically ignoring all of the negative stuff that he says and think that it's someone like him that will help make the USA a "livable" place for all people, not just the rich. They have no idea what they are talking about, which baffles me considering what they have done with their own lives and the money they make doing it.

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That's the thing, though. I know a few people that are VERY good at capitalism, and they are still Bernie fans. They are basically ignoring all of the negative stuff that he says and think that it's someone like him that will help make the USA a "livable" place for all people, not just the rich. They have no idea what they are talking about, which baffles me considering what they have done with their own lives and the money they make doing it.Indeed...those that fail at success, but also those that really believe that unicorns that fart rainbows can/do actually exist.

Some of those are smart people that function just fine, but they pine for a world as the way it "should be"...putting no stock in the way things really are.

When I ask "How much more are you willing to pay in taxes?"...the answer is always "More", but never exactly how much. That's the problem with liberalism...they have no limiting principles. It's always just "Whatever it takes".

One of the most fascinating things about politics/social issues to me is how two people can be looking at the same damn thing but see it so differently.

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Exactly. They seem to think that you can give people stuff and they are only going to do positive things with it and improve their lives. They can't seem to think that people could possibly take all that stuff you gave them and destroy their lives. Why would they do that? Oh yeah, because our problems in this country are not caused by the lack of free child care, health care, higher education, gun control, affordable housing, or anything else they want to provide for us. The problems we have are caused by the very people that are calling for it. We live in a country with the greatest potential for personal growth and success ever known to man. Unfortunately, we all just bitch about how the little man can't get ahead or that the man is keeping us down. Shut up and get to work. You might just be surprised by what you can do for yourself.

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Very well said^^^^^Both of you.

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I just returned from a big vacation and while I was away I read several books. One of them highlighted the turmoil of the late 60s.

A phrase that was popularized then amongst conservative types was "Get a haircut"...which is analogous to "Clean up your act".

George Harrison made a visit to Haight Ashbury right after the release of Sgt. Peppers...he walked around the park playing his guitar and hanging out with the "hippies". He hated it...he was dismayed by the drugs use and these people literally "Tuning in, dropping out and turning on"...which left them living lives of neediness. He said, "They don't get it...screwing yourself up isn't what the whole peace and love thing is all about".

Yeah...Timothy Leary. Tune in, drop out and turn on...great advice there, dude. Millions of people did just that and destroyed themselves and the future for their children. Generational poverty for otherwise able bodied people.

None of this is new...read the lyrics to the Oingo Boingo song "Capitalism"...that was written and recorded in 1980.

When anyone ask's me why I'm conservative, I tell them "I'm happy with my life and I'm not pissed off about anything". That's it, really...it seems to me that ALL liberals are angry or upset about one thing or another.

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Very well said^^^^^Both of you.Thanks Kurt...just common sense, huh?

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IMO--what it really boils down to is the ability to control those who wish to be controlled, through the bribery of gifts, in the form of

free healthcare, free education, etc.

Once you accept any of the bribes, they own you(control)

I guess you could call it modern American slavery.

Once you go there, you never again control your future

[Iceaxe]

Thanks Kurt...just common sense, huh?

Commonsense isn't nearly as common as you would think it is....

[twotimer]

Alright, so I'm watching this debate...

Biden is gone. Warren is a pacifist and I didn't know that until tonight...she's definitely working the VP thing, ready to polish Bernie's knob.

Pete and Amy are actually reasonably polite...Amy dodges questions but Pete actually is a bit more genuine.

Bernie is trying to be Fidel Castro 2.0...that's totally obvious.

Bloomberg...seems to me that he may actually be on the Trump train! That guy was a Republican once, and it shows.

If the Dems were smart, they'd find a way to ditch Bernie and go with Mike...it's the best shot they'll have but it'll totally lose the far left votes. Trump would win in that case, but it actually may end up being a close election. The centrists that don't like Trump would have an option.

Funny, the best shot for the Democratic Party to win the Presidency is to run another Republican against Trump. If they cheat Bernie it's gonna be a friggin' riot!

[BasinCruiser]

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[BasinCruiser]

Wow. 150M people? I had no idea. That’s sounds a lot worse than some flu that killed a few thousand.

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[dougr]

Didn't see the debate tonight. What are some opinions. I see 2timer's above.

[Iceaxe]

Last nights SC debate... The moderator's lost control of the debate almost immediately and looked like clowns trying to herd cats...

Pocahontas did her best to polish Bernie's knob in an attempt to secure the VP slot. She actually had a great debate performance, but it's too little and too late to catch Bernie.

No one was able to damage Bernie and he did nothing to damage himself, which probably means he will have secured the Democratic nomination after Super Tuesday.

Sleepy Joe made an ass out of himself as usual by declaring that nearly half of the US population (150 million) has been killed by guns since 2007. Sleepy Joe needs to be put out to pasture. He might win Saturday in SC, but his fourth run at the Presidency is going down in flames, just like his first three attempts.

Bloomberg obviously went to debate school since the last debate and did better, but Warren still beat him like a red headed step child. The worst part was Bloomberg ran a bunch of ads during the debate, which made it simple to see the guy on stage and the super hero shown in the ads were not the same guy. Bloomberg is clueless when it comes to the common man, how he lives and what he needs. The guy is tone deaf. All the money in the world can't buy you a personality and Bloomberg has none.

Klobuchar was tanked since the first debate, which was her only worthwhile performance. Now she is just sucking up some of the moderate votes.

Buttigieg seems likable enough but is obviously not Presidential material, or at least not yet. He did do a descent job of pointing out how crazy Bernie's ideas actually are, but no one is listening.

Steyer will use his money to suck up moderate votes, which only helps Bernie.

As the moderates continue to split the vote I don't see anyone who can catch Bernie after Super Tuesday when mighty California delivers him their massive herd of delegates.

Climb-Utah.com

[oldno7]

in my opinion---get a shotgun

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/299647/223DDE47-E7CC-43FE-9B67-4F13C1DED053-1291544.gif

[oldno7]

Wow. 150M people? I had no idea. That’s sounds a lot worse than some flu that killed a few thousand.

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https://conservative.life/biden-just-said-150-million-people-in-the-us-have-been-killed-since-2007-because-of-guns/


Is it any wonder the unemployment numbers have been so low with half the country dead from guns.

[dougrz]

As the moderates continue to split the vote I don't see anyone who can catch Bernie after Super Tuesday when mighty California delivers him their massive herd of delegates.

Speaking of CA, updated RCP avg. Sanders and Warren 1-2 combined at over 50% in the most recent! And in the average he's still positioned to get all delegates, if everyone else is less than 15%.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200226/24626ee34efaf78d106f3da30820f610.jpg

[twotimer]

Didn't see the debate tonight. What are some opinions. I see 2timer's above.Regarding foreign policy...that's when it was clear that Warren is a pacifist. She'd gut the military, virtually declaring that she'd leave the entire Middle East to "figure it out". She sounds quite libertarian...which is funny considering the liberal talking heads criticize Trump for not being more involved with helping the Palestinians and all the poor refugees. She said she'd flood the zone with humanitarian aid.

Bernie Sanders may actually be a clone of Noam Chomsky...as he blamed America for the world's ills. Seriously, the most logical choice for his VP may be Chomsky himself, or at least Secretary Of State.

Noam Chomsky may be the most miserable person on earth...anybody that's a fan of Noam is a fan of Bernie...that's for sure. America LAST.

The Dem Party is truly as far left as it can get.

[Iceaxe]

Funny thing about Bloomberg.... he was skyrocketing up the polls until he walked onto the debate stage. The interesting part was he never had to set foot on the stage as he didn't meet the DNC rules for debate as his campaign was self financed. Bloomberg worked to have the DNC change the debate rules which allowed the world to see he was a total douche in person.

I'd just be curious if the advisor who told him to buy the rules committee... err... I mean ask the rules committee to change the rules to allow him on stage still has a job?

[dougr]

Many opinion pieces on the debate performances. But (douche) Mary Anne Marsh's is interesting. I agree with almost nothing she writes, but a Dem's perspective on a Dem debate is instructive.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mary-anne-marsh-winners-and-losers-in-sc


WINNERS


BIGGEST WINNER: Bernie Sanders


Sanders walked into the debate as the front-runner and walked out as the front-runner. And that makes him the likely nominee if he does well, as expected, on Super Tuesday.

What should trouble many Democrats about Sanders is his continued inability or unwillingness to address how he’s going to pay the $60 trillion for his promises and programs, including “Medicare-for-all.” Sanders is using the same answer he’s been using for weeks – ducking the details, joking about how much time it would take, referring to nickels and dimes in a condescending manner.

The lack of response to that question raises questions about Sanders’ unwillingness to release his medical records. In many way he’s much like Trump with a lack of transparency about matters that matter. Yet Sanders is on his way to the nomination to face Trump.


WINNER: Elizabeth Warren

The strategy Warren employed Tuesday night is the one she should have been using for the past month: saying that while she holds similar positions to Sanders, she can turn those ideas into reality and get the job done.

With more time that approach could take a good number of votes from Sanders. And that could put Warren in the hunt for the nomination again.

There was no better debater on the stage than Warren as she made her case with substance and style that she employed once again in devastating fashion with Bloomberg.

In addition to raising more questions about Bloomberg’s treatment of women, Warren pointed out all the Republicans whose campaigns he contributed to, including Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania. She noted that Bloomberg also made campaign contributions to former Sen. Scott Brown of Massachusetts, who was defeated by Warren.

No one has hurt Bloomberg more than Warren in the two debates he participated in and in the nomination race.

But it all may be too little too late for Warren. Barring a cataclysmic event in the next week or on route to the convention, Warren is unlikely to catch Sanders.


WINNER: Joe Biden

Biden had his best debate performance when he needed it the most. His performance should reassure South Carolina voters and that will help Biden in the primary Saturday.

South Carolina is considered a must-win state for Biden and he has said he will win. But even a big win in South Carolina isn’t likely to enable Biden to gain ground on Sanders, and that’s the name of the game.


LOSERS

BIGGEST LOSER: Mike Bloomberg

At one point during the debate as it went to the first commercial break, Bloomberg checked his watch. This was reminiscent of President George H.W. Bush during a debate that marked the end of his chances to defeat challenger Bill Clinton.

The same could be true of Bloomberg. All the money in the world isn’t going to help Bloomberg win this race because in the end, you can’t hide the real Bloomberg.

The ads are a great substitute for Bloomberg. But the real Bloomberg has been revealed in these debates. Warren has shown him to be the antithesis of how he is portrayed in his nearly half-billion dollars of advertising.

It is the real-life person voters are casting their ballots for – not the one portrayed in ads. That’s the real problem for Bloomberg and it was on full display again Tuesday night.


LOSER: Pete Buttigieg

Once again, Buttigieg -- the former mayor of South Bend., Ind.,-- delivered a serviceable debate performance with his well-packaged talking points and lines. But it didn’t change the challenges he faces in the upcoming contests with voters of color.

Instead, Buttigieg rang the alarm throughout the debate about the risks that face the country and the Democratic Party if Sanders is nominated. However, raising these concerns fell woefully short of what was necessary for him to be successful.

This adds to Buttigieg’s woes in the remainder of this campaign and keeps him in the cycle of moderate voter cannibalism that could deny all of the moderates the nomination.


LOSER: Amy Klobuchar

The New Hampshire debate is now officially a one-hit-wonder for Sen. Klobuchar of Minnesota. Her performance in the two debates since that night fell short of that one, and so too will her prospects in the remaining contests as a result.


LOSER: Tom Steyer

Like his fellow billionaire Mike Bloomberg, Tom Steyer has an endless reservoir of money to stay in the race. It has done little to improve his debate performance but it has put him in contention for third place in the South Carolina primary. That hurts Biden, Buttigieg and Klobuchar and it doesn’t help Steyer – but it does help Sanders.

[oldno7]

:roflol:

heres a recap


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=458&v=uLgpFZtI4eU&feature=emb_ logo

[oldno7]

“They talk about 40 Democrats, 21 of those were people that I spent $100 million to help elect,” Bloomberg said. “All of the new Democrats that came in and put Nancy Pelosi in charge, and gave the Congress the ability to control this president, I bought, I got them.”

[dougrz]

Warren has done well recently. Call me crazy, but her chances are non-zero I'd think.

[dougr]

:roflol:

heres a recap


That's a funny video. Big cheer from the audience for Warren.

[Iceaxe]

Warren has done well recently. Call me crazy, but her chances are non-zero I'd think.I've wondered if she could end up the happy medium in the Democratic party. I get it she is extreme left, but at least not as far left as Bernie. Warren is smart and can at least do math. She also marches to the DNC drum.

Climb-Utah.com

[BasinCruiser]

Wait, what? Did an actual brain synapse accidentally fire up in burn’s head?

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http://inthesetimes.com/article/22326/bernie-sanders-patriot-act-safeguarding-americans-private-security-records/


He can’t truly have a reason for supporting cutting the patriot act for 1st/4th amendment reasons, can he?

[Iceaxe]

Shocker!!! The math doesn't add up! More people are registered to vote in Florida, Michigan and Colorado then are eligible to vote. Interesting how these abnormalities are all in swing states....

‘Suspiciously high’ voter registration rates in swing states

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/group-threatens-lawsuits-over-suspiciously-high-voter-registration-rates-in-swing-states

Climb-Utah.com

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/5YV38Sz.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/GlMAwb8.jpg

[Iceaxe]

^^^I certainly don't hold someone's wealth against them... that's a liberal move.

I say good for Bloomberg... and it looks like I need to step up my game.

YMMV

Climb-Utah.com

[dougr]

Latest RCP South Carolina polls

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[accadacca]

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[oldno7]

klobuchar has to bow out soon.

After SC?

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https://www.blazingcatfur.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/ice-voter-id.jpg

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/921/WVzVtm.jpg

[dougr]

Looks like a huge Biden win in SC. Bigger than the most optimistic polls. Probably says the Obama draw for black voters is still strong.

I think he might be able to win the nom. Sanders' road is to thread the needle between a split Bloomber/Biden vote.

Crazy.

[Iceaxe]

Tom Steyer just packed up his money and bailed out of the Presidential race.

[dougrz]

As of now, given Bloomberg's terrible 2 weeks and Biden's resurgence and Sanders' leads in CA and TX, I can see any of the 3 winning. Biden or Bloomberg on 2nd or 3rd ballot via superdelegate theft.

But if forced to bet, I'd say Biden on the 2nd ballot. Sanders goes in leading in delegates, all other candidates back Biden except for Warren, superdels go Biden, Sanders has it stolen. Superdels might secretly prefer Bloomberg and his cash, but polling suggesting serious dislike of Bloomberg based on Warren's effective attacks seal his fate.

[twotimer]

Biden? For Christ's sake, the big party is still 3 months away and it doesn't look like he'll make it that far before someone has to lead him around by the hand...let alone the election. That guy isn't going to be able to grind out 4 years...seems to me his VP will end up the prez by proxy.

I've been talking to several liberal clients and friends of mine and they all are just waiting to see who's standing last. They hate Trump but aren't enthusiastic about Bernie at all. I ask "Will you vote for Bernie?" and none will give an answer...they're all in a holding pattern. These are older folks who have money.

Interesting to see how Tuesday plays out...I think Amy, Pete and Warren will be gone, finally. It'll also determine if Sanders is truly legit.

[dougr]

Interesting to see how Tuesday plays out...I think Amy, Pete and Warren will be gone, finally. It'll also determine if Sanders is truly legit.

Agree with that specifically. So given they'll all endorse, you'd have to think Warren for Sanders, all others for Biden? Maybe 1 for Bloomberg? Then Biden v Bloomberg v Sanders. This poll about Bloomberg I think is telling: https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/02/29/south-carolina-exit-poll-two-thirds-of-democrats-view-bloomberg-unfavorably/ "South Carolina Exit Poll: Two-Thirds of Democrats View Bloomberg Unfavorably."

Party apparatus wants Bloomberg and his money. Rank and file genuinely dislike Bloomberg. Rank and file prefer Biden but think he's senile and weak. Dedicated wing is for Sanders no matter what. Looks brokered.

[Iceaxe]

Bloomberg is out... he doesn't have the character or charisma to ever be elected President and everyone now sees that.

It's now up to Bernie to win 2376 delegates (50%) before the Democratic Convention. If Bernie doesn't reach 2376 the DNC will do everything in its power to stop Bernie.... including attempting to put Hillary or Micheal Obama up as a candidate. If Bernie doesn't reach 2376 the Democratic Convention will be a blood bath.

Everyone knows Bernie can't beat Trump. Right now Sleepy Joe is the only Democrat with a snowball's chance of winning.

Liberals have a habit of being very unforgiving to anyone that has a different opinion than them. I'm hoping this coming civil war inside the DNC rips the party apart and a more moderate party emerges.

Climb-Utah.com

[dougr]

^ I think it's indeed shaping up that way. Remarkable turn of events. If Warren's attacks on Bloomberg killed him as it seems, she paved the way for Sanders or Biden.

Look at the MA polls:

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[Iceaxe]

Just a thought... what if the DNC can broker a deal for a Biden/Warren ticket?

Climb-Utah.com

[dougr]

Given CA and TX are the lion's share on Tuesday, these. Consider the polling for NV and SC correctly predicted the winners, but missed the margin by a lot. The leaders showing momentum late saw their momentum magnified into voting day. Sanders doing well in both the biguns would be a hell of a result for him. Especially if no one else gets to 15% in CA and he takes all the dels.

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[twotimer]

including attempting to put Hillary or Micheal Obama up as a candidate.Nah...if either one of them was even considering it, big time feelers would have been put out already. Hell, why not throw Oprah in there? I don't think a "miracle cure" is forthcoming...what you see if what you get.

The Biden/Warren thing is certainly a possibility...but that means they're voting for Warren for prez by default. But I guess it would be the most least embarrassing way to lose.

Sanders winning the ticket would do nothing to help them keep the House. Couple more days, we'll see. It's all about Bernie.

[Iceaxe]

The Biden/Warren thing is certainly a possibility...but that means they're voting for Warren for prez by default.

It's pretty much taken for granted that if Biden wins it will be President by committee., and the Democrats love committee's,

[Iceaxe]

Warren's team admits their current objective is to steal the nomination from Bernie at the Democratic Convention.

Warren declares contested Democratic National Convention the 'final play'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-declares-contested-democratic-national-convention-the-final-play

Climb-Utah.com

[twotimer]

It's pretty much taken for granted that if Biden wins it will be President by committee., and the Democrats love committee's,Oh I'm with you 100% with that...Obama wasn't so much a prez as he was the spokesman for the committee. But if Biden were to seriously decline I'm not sure she would go along with the program...she's a pretty tough bitch. She'd stand firm with her arms crossed while it all burned down around her if she'd convinced herself she was right. I don't think she'd be an easy puppet.

[twotimer]

Well, well...looks like Pete hit the skids. I'm surprised...but I reckon he finally realized that this country is'nt ready to go fully gay.

[BasinCruiser]

Yep. Poot has finally pulled out.


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https://www.npr.org/2020/03/01/802023529/pete-buttigieg-suspends-presidential-bid?utm_term=nprnews&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR3X0fXm99VebtYyrI8hEWhQgQwqY8XLh0c2ZTD0W uqAo0pi7Uu4yz4c3y8&fbclid=IwAR3NZtmfZJYryKanPnbEAN6Ui3ypIbfjZLs12Ag1x 34sLbGv-Xf73Bu0wU4


Wonder what influenced him to do that. Was it signs of lack of support and enthusiasm, or the DNC pressuring him out, to stop spreading the votes over so many candidates?

[Iceaxe]

The DNC is bringing down major pressure... it's no coincidence that Steyer and Buttigieg both pull out two days before the biggest primaries of the year. Both were sucking votes away from Biden.

Honestly if you are using commonsense their is absolutely no reason to pull out before Super Tuesday... you have already spent the time and money campaigning... so why not sit on the bench and see what happens... unless someone has made you a better offer...

Their is an old saying in politics... "there is no such thing as a coincidence"

Climb-Utah.com

[BasinCruiser]

The burnie bros may be as gullible as a box of rocks, but they can still identify at least that the DNC it’s screwing their utopian land of rainbow crapping unicorns over.

“We’re not gonna take it! No, we ain’t gonna take it! “. :rockon:

:bash:


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https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/03/01/progressives-planning-bernthednc-mass-nonviolent-civil-disobedience-if-democratic?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook

[oldno7]

https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/06-apology-dt-600.jpg

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/ICfUWIh.jpg

[dougr]

Polling momentum for Biden in CA and TX. As we saw in NV and SC, late momentum magnified. Add in Buttigieg's votes going mostly to him. I'm thinking he scores much better than expected on Tues. Blunting Sanders in CA, possibly winning TX in a surprise, and sweeping the states with heavy black votes, he becomes the front runner and it's his to lose.

The DNC might have effectively stopped Sanders. I've even been seeing online ads attacking him as an extremist radical.

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[twotimer]

The problem with Bernie is that they should have never allowed him to run as a Democrat...he should be heading the Socialist Party, or the Worker's Party...something along those lines.

They let that Trojan horse in and now they have to deal with it.

Pete said he quit to "unite" the party against Sanders...but like Iceaxe said, I wonder if he was given an offer he couldn't refuse. I reckon there's lots of deals being struck...and probably plenty more to come. Doesn't matter...my money is still on Trump.

Since he came down that escalator, NO ONE has been able to beat him. He 'aint gonna lose it now, especially since (warts and all) he's done a pretty good job. As well as the Dems not having anyone to turn into a superstar sensation...they're too fractured for "anyone but Trump" to be a winning strategy.

[rockgremlin]

Klobuchar is officially OUT.

https://www.ksl.com/article/46724435/klobuchar-is-ending-her-presidential-bid-will-endorse-biden

[twotimer]

They're really afraid of Sanders...they KNOW it'll be 1972 all over again...plus they'll be branded SOCIALIST right on their ass.

So it's down to Sanders, Biden and Bloomberg...three old white guys. One hasn't got a chance, another is fading fast mentally, and yet another is a DINO trying to buy in as well as definitely unpopular with at least a third of the Dems that'll be voting in Nov.

Anybody wanna bet against Trump?

[rockgremlin]

They're really afraid of Sanders...they KNOW it'll be 1972 all over again...plus they'll be branded SOCIALIST right on their ass.

So it's down to Sanders, Biden and Bloomberg...three old white guys. One hasn't got a chance, another is fading fast mentally, and yet another is a DINO trying to buy in as well as definitely unpopular with at least a third of the Dems that'll be voting in Nov.

Anybody wanna bet against Trump?

...and Warren. She's still in it too I believe.

[twotimer]

...and Warren. She's still in it too I believe.No, not really. She'll hang tough to get the VP slot...that's all she can hope for. She'll use her delegates (if she gets any) as leverage. She'll hook up with either Bernie or Biden...like I said, she's not to kind to go along with the program.

She knows that if this doesn't pan out for her, then her aspirations for the big time is over.

[dougrz]

Klobuchar out further strengthens my Biden conviction. The only wrench in that thinking, and it's not small, is early voting. Any voting done before SC would have been quite bad for Biden. He'd need to do extra well on voting day to make up for it.

Go Sanders. Probably easier to beat, but more important puts in the open what Dems all want for this country.

[oldno7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=94&v=ICBGCu8APMg&feature=emb_l ogo

[BasinCruiser]

So, Mayor Pete is now endorsing Burns?:ne_nau:


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https://www.huffpost.com/topic/dick-van-dyke

[twotimer]

So I just watched the Fox town hall with Bloomberg...now he's a downright reasonable guy. I like him.

I know the two biggest no-no's with him are his stance on guns and banning sodas...he didn't talk about the sodas, but he did talk about guns. Says the only thing he's in favor of is closing the internet and gun show "loopholes". Sounded reasonable, but he's also financed legislation that goes WAY beyond that.

Also, what he had to say in regards to current policy on a number of things sounded like an endorsement of Trump. Seems to me that Bloomberg's main thing is to say he'd govern much the same way Trump does but he be a "nicer" guy.

Moderate Dems have a place to go with this dude, no doubt about that...but he'll be rejected by those on the far left. He probably would have been better served trying to primary Trump as a Republican.

Funny...when asked if he'd vote for Bernie, he said "I wouldn't like it, but I would". Bullshit...when the rubber hits the road, he'll vote for Trump.

EDIT: Just read that Chris Matthews just got shitcanned. In the comment section was this little nugget, which I though was brilliant...

Who would have thought the end of Chris Matthews would result in him being Bill O' Rielly'ed...too funny, and a wicked curve ball under the chin from the Karma Goddess.

Like I said after that Impeachment debate fell on it's face...the real circus was gonna to get going.

[Iceaxe]

^^^Wow! I listened to Bloomberg's townhall and his stance on guns was "I'm special, so I deserve armed protection".

Also... look at what he has done, paid for and endorsed in regards to guns and not the bullshit he is currently shoveling. Bloomberg is the checkbook supporting "Every Town", Bloomberg is the checkbook behind what is currently happening in Virginia.... do your homework!!!

Climb-Utah.com

[twotimer]

Bloomberg is the checkbook behind what is currently happening in Virginia.... do your homework!!!

Climb-Utah.comHaha! Well no shit! Slow down, go back and read my post...what I said in regards to the guns is that he says one thing then does another. I didn't say I was going to vote for the guy...it's just that he didn't come off like a crazy psycho.

[Iceaxe]

Here is Bloomberg today on guns...

https://www.facebook.com/22561081832/posts/10158457832616833/

But I agree... Bloomberg is a rocket scientist when compared to Crazy Bernie and Senile Joe...

The only thing Bloomberg is going to get is the credit for electing Bernie and cratering the Democratic party.

[dougrz]

The only thing Bloomberg is going to get is the credit for electing Bernie and cratering the Democratic party.

And he knows that. If he does poorly tomorrow, I think he drops out, endorses Biden, and Biden romps from here. We need Biden and Bloomberg even tomorrow with Sanders well ahead.

All of a sudden, a good playing field for Trump has turned dicey. With the coalescing of the Dems and the corona hysteria.

[Iceaxe]

Beto justed joined the rest of the Democratic campaign losers in endorsing Biden... It appears the swamp has picked the gator they plan to back.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200303/c3d4652af0f7b6c97344dce60145c175.jpg

[dougrz]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/joe-biden-declares-beto-orourke-to-lead-bidens-anti-gun-agenda

Biden "announces" Beto to lead his anti-gun agenda. Wow. You can't make this stuff up. Biden helped himself in the near term, but hurt himself in several swing states now in the general.

[Iceaxe]

2020 is the last chance for both Biden and Bernie. Neither will be a viable candidate in 2024.

It should be interesting to watch as no way will Bernie stand for getting screwed again. He has no party loyalty, he's pretty much done career wise after this election. If Bernie is screwed over he will loudly point out every corrupt act of the Democratic party.

Democrat voters might not like Bernie, but they aren't going to like seeing their party's corruption and dirty laundry made public.

The DNC has to focus more energy and resources on screwing Bernie, without being obvious, which they are not currently doing a very good job of.

#MAGA

[dougrz]

It should be interesting to watch as no way will Bernie stand for getting screwed again

Sanders is sitting at 30 to 35% basically. If Bloomberg drops out and Biden takes 2/3 of the vote from here, I actually do think Sanders would concede without scorching the Earth. Big if.

[oldno7]

https://i.imgur.com/jMfUPEY.jpg

[Sombeech]

Ask yourself, why would Pete drop out 36 hours prior to Super Tuesday? If he knows he's out, why not wait for Super Tuesday to make it official after the results?

The DNC asked him to drop out so he wouldn't take points away from Biden.

Bernie has the largest support and again he'll get screwed by the DNC, and his supporters will just take it again.

[dougr]

Sadly does look like serious polling momentum for Biden. I think he'll take Texas and come close in CA, if not take it. This speaks to the media's power more than anything. Which bodes ill for Nov and the country's future. Curious that Warren isn't/didn't drop/ping out. Her votes would have gone a long way to shoring up Sanders.

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[BasinCruiser]

Ask yourself, why would Pete drop out 36 hours prior to Super Tuesday? If he knows he's out, why not wait for Super Tuesday to make it official after the results?

The DNC asked him to drop out so he wouldn't take points away from Biden.

Bernie has the largest support and again he'll get screwed by the DNC, and his supporters will just take it again.


Yep. Several candidates all pull out just days before Super Tuesday, and then turn around and immediate endorse Biden. And Biden also picks up Beta (rememeber that cool skater guy from Texas) to head up his coelition to fight gun violence and enact gun control. No - there's no back door deals being done here by the DNC to prop up Creepy Joe. Nothing to see here.

[rockgremlin]

What I can't understand is...of all the candidates to back, why Biden? Biden is so terrible that my hardcore Democrat friends hold their noses every time his name is mentioned. He honestly looks and acts like he has onset dementia. My grandma died of Alzheimer's and I can recognize some of her early symptoms in Biden. :eek2:

[oldno7]

FWIW

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/234113/Screenshot_20200303-092756_png-1300124.JPG

[Iceaxe]

Why Biden? The answer to that is simple. He is the only Democratic candidate that stands a snowball's chance of beating Trump, so at least Democrats will show up to vote.

What the DNC fears most is not losing the presidency, but losing the house. With Sanders's at the top of the ticket that is a real possibility, with Biden at the top the Democrats can probably keep the house.

What you see happening in the DNC at the moment is all about the down ballot candidates.

Climb-Utah.com

[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[Iceaxe]

Good article on why Biden....

Juan Williams: Democrats are doing what anti-Trump Republicans should have done in 2016

https://www.foxnews.com/media/juan-williams-democrats-biden-bernie-trump

Climb-Utah.com

[oldno7]

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[dougrz]

Fair to say we're all coming to the realization looks like Dems pulled their act together at the last minute?

[Iceaxe]

Fair to say we're all coming to the realization looks like Dems pulled their act together at the last minute?

Meh.... we shall see.... It might have been too little too late considering most Super Tuesday States have already been voting for the past month.

If Sander's ends the night with +200 delegates, of if he wins CA and TX it's probably over for Biden.

[dougrz]

If Sander's ends the night with +200 delegates, of if he wins CA and TX it's probably over for Biden.

Agreed. If either takes both those states, probably over. I never dreamed I'd be rooting for a communist to win, but we need the clarifying bloodletting only that can bring.

[dougrz]

The early VA route for Biden is a good 10 points better than optimistic polls were showing. Given that trend, he'll take TX handily and probably take CA as well. Could be over in 3 hours.

[twotimer]

What I can't understand is...of all the candidates to back, why Biden? Biden is so terrible that my hardcore Democrat friends hold their noses every time his name is mentioned. He honestly looks and acts like he has onset dementia. My grandma died of Alzheimer's and I can recognize some of her early symptoms in Biden. :eek2:Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? One thing for sure...they sure as hell don't want Sanders to be the man. They know damn well he'll lose, and lose big. Not only that, the Democrat Party will have SOCIALIST tattooed on their ass. And I agree with Ice that down ballot candidates would be in jeopardy too. They can't let that happen...they're going to screw Bernie not matter what.

They should have never let that guy join the party in the first place. He should be running as a Socialist, Independent, Green Party, whatever...but they wanted his votes in the Senate and thereby let the fox in the henhouse. Somebody should have told Biden "No" when he was considering getting in...because at least a few of the ones that have already dropped out would have at least let them save face...but who was to know Biden would decline mentally so rapidly?

Anyway...IMO the nominee will be Biden. However, the person who would be President if Biden is elected (providing he makes it to November) has yet to be know...that person will be his VP pick. Biden won't last long and everyone knows that.

So basically, it's Trump vs. Biden's VP pick in 2020. I think that's what it'll boil down to.

[BasinCruiser]

Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? One thing for sure...they sure as hell don't want Sanders to be the man. They know damn well he'll lose, and lose big. Not only that, the Democrat Party will have SOCIALIST tattooed on their ass. And I agree with Ice that down ballot candidates would be in jeopardy too. They can't let that happen...they're going to screw Bernie not matter what.

They should have never let that guy join the party in the first place. He should be running as a Socialist, Independent, Green Party, whatever...but they wanted his votes in the Senate and thereby let the fox in the henhouse. Somebody should have told Biden "No" when he was considering getting in...because at least a few of the ones that have already dropped out would have at least let them save face...but who was to know Biden would decline mentally so rapidly?

Anyway...IMO the nominee will be Biden. However, the person who would be President if Biden is elected (providing he makes it to November) has yet to be know...that person will be his VP pick. Biden won't last long and everyone knows that.

So basically, it's Trump vs. Biden's VP pick in 2020. I think that's what it'll boil down to.


My casual observance has been that after the election, VPs just fade away and never really are talked about in mainstream American homes. To me, it sounds like your saying that for the first time ever, a candidates choice for VP will actually mean something?

[BasinCruiser]

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[oldno7]

Biden looks like the guy.

The key to the election will be where do bernies voters go?

I think a majority don't vote in retaliation of the man(dnc)

Making Trump's path maybe not certain but at least more likely.

[oldno7]

The dnc has pulled a lot of strings and called in a lot of favors to get biden to the top.

I would guess they are guaranteeing pete a spot in 2024

[twotimer]

My casual observance has been that after the election, VPs just fade away and never really are talked about in mainstream American homes. To me, it songs like your saying that for the first time ever, a candidates choice for VP will actually mean something?Yes, absolutely! The VP has taken over before, in fact it's happened 9 times. In this case, it's obvious that the main candidate (Biden) simply wouldn't last.

I think Biden's VP pick will be crucial, because I think a lot of people understand that he's showing signs of...something's wrong. I don't think it'll be Warren, he'll go with somebody safe...an establishment friendly type. Almost certainly a female, maybe Amy.

[Iceaxe]

The early VA route for Biden is a good 10 points better than optimistic polls were showing. Given that trend, he'll take TX handily and probably take CA as well. Could be over in 3 hours.You are reading way too much into one state... TX will be close and Sanders will win CA. The further west things go the better Sanders will do.

The interesting thing to me is it appears Bloomberg pissed half a billion dollars away.

Climb-Utah.com

[oldno7]

https://i.postimg.cc/qvrsFRtr/IMG-0430.jpg

[dougrz]

You are reading way too much into one state... TX will be close and Sanders will win CA. The further west things go the better Sanders will do.

Weak showing by Sanders in CA so far. Sub-30%.

I have to think his Castro comments were the catalyst for tonight. That really shook the DNC and galvanized their alarm.

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

He can't control the urge

https://files.catbox.moe/4me6wl.png

[rockgremlin]

He can't control the urge

https://files.catbox.moe/4me6wl.png


That's the look I give the turkey at Thanksgiving. :eat:

[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

And as joe gets more popular--the dnc can't protect him or hold him back from rallies and speaking.

Oh the gaff real is gonna be endless.

And you know Trump has every one of them in his debate note book.

[devo_stevo]

It's beginning already. They are starting to run stories about how terrible the economy is in towns where the supporting industry is waning. It's all Trump's fault, and only a strong and compassionate democrat can possibly take care of all the soon to be displaced families living in squalor.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/for-growing-numbers-of-struggling-us-cities-the-downturn-has-arrived/ar-BB10GNuG?li=BBnbfcN#image=BB10GNuG_2|1

[Iceaxe]

And just like that... Bloomberg is gone!

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/michael-bloomberg-suspends-presidential-campaign/story?id=67498506

[BasinCruiser]

And Bidens campaign just hit the jackpot.

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[oldno7]

With bloombergs money, biden should ride to the dnc nomination.

Probably go after a women VP

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[oldno7]

https://www.thepubliceditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Joe_Biden_Hillary_Server_Wiped.jpeg

[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

I'm leaning to heals up.

Checks 2 boxes joe needs.

[dougr]

I think it'll be Stacey Abrams, if a black. Biden needs to break through in the south to beat Trump, and she offers something there. Harris gives him an urbanite, West coast connection which he doesn't need.

If a Mex, not sure who.

Either way, a dramatic swing in fortune over 2 weeks. Very tough road for Trump to win.

[oldno7]

I thought about abrams.

Just think joe will need some younger, nationally recognized energy.

[oldno7]

bloomberg still has unspent $$$$

How would a biden/bloomberg ticket play out?

[oldno7]

https://i.imgflip.com/3redp5.jpg

[oldno7]

Would bernie go scorched earth on the dems and go independant?

Or is he just in it for a couple more houses?

[dougrz]

I cannot foresee Sanders going Ind. Therein lies the issue of hate for Trump. It is genuinely powerful.

Which is why regardless of lack of enthusiasm for Biden, the enthusiasm to oust Trump makes up for it.

[twotimer]

None of them can beat Trump...they're all a bunch of chumps.


485927-trumps-super-tuesday-results-broad-appeal-beyond-a-united-gop (https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/485927-trumps-super-tuesday-results-broad-appeal-beyond-a-united-gop)

[Iceaxe]

^^^THIS^^^

Climb-Utah.com

[rockgremlin]

If you think the latest Coronavirus hysteria is out of control, wait till you see the epic meltdown that's gonna take place once Trump wins a second term.

It's gonna be Armageddon. :popcorn:

[devo_stevo]

If you think the latest Coronavirus hysteria is out of control, wait till you see the epic meltdown that's gonna take place once Trump wins a second term.

It's gonna be Armageddon. :popcorn:
Yep, and if you think that's bad, wait until he gets voted in for a THIRD term!!













That's a joke.

[oldno7]

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[oldno7]

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[Iceaxe]

Pocahontas is gone!

Warren will drop out later today.

[oldno7]

Pocahontas is gone!

Warren will drop out later today.

I'm sure that will be a long trail of tears for her.

[oldno7]

So is Trump now the youngest viable candidate for President?

[BasinCruiser]

So is Trump now the youngest viable candidate for President?

And the only one with any objective success as both a politian and businessman.

[oldno7]

Warren Returns To Tribe In Shame After Failing To Take Land Back From The Pale Faces

https://babylonbee.com/news/warren-returns-to-tribe-in-shame-after-failing-to-retake-land-from-the-white-man



https://babylonbee.com/img/articles/article-5691-2.jpg

[BasinCruiser]

Finally, after 300 years, a Native American will be president.

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Pocahontas is gone!

Warren will drop out later today.



Nooooo. Say it ain't so. The hopes and dreams of millions of Natives have been shattered. :kicknuts:

[oldno7]

I'm guessing that being President just wasn't in her DNA.

[oldno7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=62&v=BS5HCi-zsYE&feature=emb_logo

[twotimer]

Pocahontas is gone!

Warren will drop out later today.Gone for good, too. This was her last stand, so to speak. Neither Biden nor Bernie offered her the VP slot...that's why she didn't endorse anyone.

So Bernie comes out and invites her supporters to join him. Warren got used like a two dollar whore. Good riddance.

[Iceaxe]

So exactly how long do you think the Swamp will be able to hide the fact that Biden is suffering from the on set of dementia?

The poor guy is just a shell of his former self.

[twotimer]

So exactly how long do you think the Swamp will be able to hide the fact that Biden is suffering from the on set of dementia?

The poor guy is just a shell of his former self.No shit! I was just watching some footage of him from just 4 years ago and his physical appearance has declined significantly. Check it out...google "Biden video 2016" and see for yourself. He's gone "full elderly". Gnarly.

They should keep him in a closet and not wheel him out until he has to give the victory speech at the DNC...shoot him up full of steroids and HGH for that one.

Unbelievable that decaying old coot is the only thing they could come up with. Nobody decent wanted to get their ass kicked.

[BasinCruiser]

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[oldno7]

Just food for thought.

democrats are great at calling everyone and anyone out as some kind of phobe or ist, you know the list.

But it was democrats and democrats only who shunned mayor pete(homophobes) and Pocahontas(misogynist)

surely they booted out booker on the color of his skin(racist)

They want to lay blame of all this on the shoulders of America but it wasn't America who shunned these candidates, it was democrats.

And now we know where there interest really lie---2 old, career, white politicians.

sounds like the party of inclusion to me, or is that hypocrisy?

[oldno7]

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