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oldno7
09-01-2020, 06:07 AM
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oldno7
09-01-2020, 06:22 AM
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oldno7
09-01-2020, 06:23 AM
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Byron
09-01-2020, 06:30 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/Dyf5GjNf/Screen-Shot-2020-08-27-at-6-12-21-PM.png

Here's another mystifying thing about this...

Politics is supposed to be about subtlety...sleight of hand. If done correctly, one side gets what it wants without the other getting too bent out of shape. What the Democrats desire is power and control...but you've got to wonder what the hell they're going to do with it once they have it and do they really want it?

Think about it...THEY would immediately assume responsibility for the agitators and anarchist that they appear to covet...also, they would have to work to appease the majority in the country that fight them tooth and nail in regards to their socialist agenda. In other words, the power and control they seek will turn out to be one hell of a hot potato, indeed.

Do they really want it? The smart thing to do would be to bail out on this election and take the next 2-4 years to get their shit together...otherwise they're going to have to manage a trifecta...violent anarchists, the socialist congressmen that are gunning for them and at least 50% of the country that will be giving them the firm middle finger.

Careful what you wish for, eh?

For months now, normal law abiding citizens have remained relatively calm in the face of all this insanity, but there's only so much these people will take. The Democrats may actually be stupid enough to assume that our "relaxed posture" equates complacency...but if they assume power and continue to travel down the path they're on, they're going to see us get up out of our chair...in a foul mood.

That's what this meme says to me...if Trump wins they back off and blame everything on him, but if they win that flaming torch ends up right into their hands and they'll have nowhere to hide as well as being attacked on three sides.

Perhaps Biden is their way of sitting it out after all?

dougrz
09-01-2020, 02:44 PM
This Pelosi hair saloon visit video without a mask and in violation of city and state regs could end up being this election's deplorables comment. Juicy.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-san-francisco-hair-salon-owner-calls-it-slap-in-the-face

Iceaxe
09-01-2020, 04:59 PM
^^^Scam-demic^^^

dougrz
09-01-2020, 05:04 PM
This Pelosi hair saloon visit

Saloon must have been a Freudian slip. Salon.

BasinCruiser
09-01-2020, 06:20 PM
Nothing better for 2020 ad campaign than the GOP to play video of the Dems own words.

95333

https://www.dailywire.com/news/viral-video-shows-leading-democrats-promoting-uprisings-unrest-harassment

oldno7
09-01-2020, 09:01 PM
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oldno7
09-02-2020, 05:49 AM
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oldno7
09-02-2020, 05:53 AM
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oldno7
09-02-2020, 06:06 AM
lolol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=48&v=e4AB242FxLk&feature=emb_l ogo

Iceaxe
09-02-2020, 07:03 AM
Serious question... why do all the ugly chicks support Biden?

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Byron
09-02-2020, 07:30 AM
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oldno7
09-02-2020, 08:43 AM
Blexit?


https://twitter.com/realmagahulk/status/1300539798122237952 (https://twitter.com/realmagahulk/status/1300539798122237952)

oldno7
09-02-2020, 08:44 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfDgCCpXTE&feature=emb_logo

rockgremlin
09-02-2020, 08:53 AM
Blexit?


https://twitter.com/realmagahulk/status/1300539798122237952 (https://twitter.com/realmagahulk/status/1300539798122237952)


"Black Conservatism is the new punk rock..."


Beautiful quote. :2thumbs:

BasinCruiser
09-02-2020, 11:36 AM
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rockgremlin
09-02-2020, 12:16 PM
Here's Jimmy Dore giving it to Biden and the Democrats with both barrels.

For anyone wondering about Jimmy Dore's politics, he's a Democrat who is very frustrated and angry at his party. He thinks Trump is a tool, but realizes that the only reason why we have Trump is because we had 8 horrible years of Obama -- and Biden would be even worse than Obama.

There are many Democrats out there that think and feel the way Jimmy does about their failed party which is why I believe Trump wins handily in November.


A very entertaining 12 minute rant:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeKRakJSe_8

Byron
09-02-2020, 12:46 PM
I wouldn't describe Mr. Dore as a Democrat at all...he's a full on Bernie Bro socialist. Probably communist if he could take it that far.

Funny thing about he Dems appearing to throw this election...all the investigations against them would cease to exist if they won. Barr, Durham...all of them out and gone. Obama's legacy pulled from the ashes. You'd think they'd be truly fighting tooth and nail for the relief of that alone?

Could be that they're not concerned about any "investigations"...as they've got their asses covered six ways to Sunday and a whole crowd of sacrificial victims to toss onto the heap. Could be they really don't give a shit about "Obama's legacy"...could be they're going to be just fine with Trump in charge and are satisfied waiting it out while getting richer and richer.

One thing I'll say about Mr. Dorn...I think he certainly gets it. Says he won't vote for Biden and I'll betcha he doesn't donate to the campaign either. Lost man in a lost world.

rockgremlin
09-02-2020, 08:14 PM
Every election has surprises.

For example, last year's surprise was that even though Hilary was heavily favored to win the swing states of WI, NC, FL, PA, MI, and OH, Trump instead won them all and ended up in the White House.

SO....this is your opportunity to predict what this year's election surprises may be. What do you think might occur in this election that may surprise us?

I think it's entirely possible that in the wake of the bungling and mismanagement of the BLM rioting that Oregon and Minnesota turn red this year. New York might be a tight race this year given Cuomo's shenanigans but it will likely go blue regardless. California will also be a tighter race than in previous years, but ultimately still go blue. Illinois will be as close as Michigan was last year where the result was determined by a margin of 0.3% .

Iceaxe
09-03-2020, 01:49 AM
A surprise to me would be if any of Dougie Downer's predictions came true...

I predict this election will look a lot like the 1984 Regan vs Mondale election.

dougrz
09-03-2020, 04:29 AM
A surprise to me would be if any of Dougie Downer's predictions came true...

I predict this election will look a lot like the 1984 Regan vs Mondale election.Here's a Q for you all. We have a culture where the wheels have fallen off. Men proclaim they're women and the Supreme Court agrees. One party openly pushes socialist policy and is leading in every poll. That ideology dominates every single facet of society, with our side's evidence of strength being a silent majority. Parents no longer control their kids' education and values imbuing, but instead are helpless in watching their kids become lost to the left.

And I'm the one silly in thinking a leftist tsunami is coming? You might be right this one last time, but at some point CA-level results become the norm on a national level. If we win, we'll have been saved by the -strength- of the left scaring off just enough indep voters.

All the while still swimming against the tide of leftist control of every institution of people production the country has. Show me a dismantling of public education and then I'll say we have a chance to save the country.

1984-type result? 525 to 13? 60-40 R? Trump lost the pop vote by 3 mil in 2016, that has to widen on just demographics. Look to the CA Repub party of the 90s, as the Dems there got more insane it didn't matter, the die was cast, the public ed system set the course. I see no evidence we (normal Americans) have any power to manufacture more like us.

Our side is whistling past the graveyard now.

dougrz
09-03-2020, 05:59 AM
And as if on queue, a Breitbart story this morning on the number of new foreign born voters in swing states since the last election. Demographics tells all.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/02/data-new-foreign-born-voters-in-swing-states-exceed-2016-margins-of-victory/

Byron
09-03-2020, 06:13 AM
Here's a Q for you all. We have a culture where the wheels have fallen off. Men proclaim they're women and the Supreme Court agrees. One party openly pushes socialist policy and is leading in every poll. That ideology dominates every single facet of society, with our side's evidence of strength being a silent majority. Parents no longer control their kids' education and values imbuing, but instead are helpless in watching their kids become lost to the left.

And I'm the one silly in thinking a leftist tsunami is coming? You might be right this one last time, but at some point CA-level results become the norm on a national level. If we win, we'll have been saved by the -strength- of the left scaring off just enough indep voters.

I feel like our side is whistling past the graveyard now.Everything you've written is of legitimate concern...seems almost impossible to fight it off especially when it seems that those that would fight against it remain so calm and quiet.

To me this is analogous to a family...dad, mom and the kids. Dad is a Republican, mom is a Democrat and the kids are us...the US population. Things aren't going well in the marriage. One spouse is calm and rational and the other is highly emotional and prone to fits.

Things are tumultuous and have been for a long time...fights and arguments and mom usually gets her way because dad decided it's not worth the knock down drag out. Lately she's been freaking out and throwing dishes at the wall. But eventually it comes to a head and dad isn't putting up with it anymore...it's divorce time. That's it...done.

We're heading for divorce. The two parties have separated so far they can't even live in the same house...it started 20 years ago, really. The Dem party is destroying itself and what takes it's place remains to be seen.

Yep...dad is whistling past the graveyard, alright. But the graveyard that mom built is an ugly place...full of anger, rage, destruction, uncertainty. I think most of the kids will hang with dad as they pass it by.

The cave is becoming inhospitable.

oldno7
09-03-2020, 06:16 AM
https://i.imgur.com/m0qRcl1.jpg

Byron
09-03-2020, 06:23 AM
A surprise to me would be if any of Dougie Downer's predictions came true...

I predict this election will look a lot like the 1984 Regan vs Mondale election.I agree. Reagan was despised...a psychopath that was going to take us straight into a nuclear war. The Dems were offering Jimmy Carter 2.0

It's not even about Trump anymore...it's about stability, period. Although plenty of people despise Trump, four more years of him is much more desirable than the bag of shit the Dems are putting on the table.

oldno7
09-03-2020, 06:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/IaRZRwu.png

oldno7
09-03-2020, 06:26 AM
https://i.imgur.com/3Rs4dIE.jpg

oldno7
09-03-2020, 06:27 AM
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oldno7
09-03-2020, 06:27 AM
https://i.imgur.com/V9C4i8h.jpg

Iceaxe
09-03-2020, 06:28 AM
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rockgremlin
09-03-2020, 07:13 AM
Here's a Q for you all. We have a culture where the wheels have fallen off. Men proclaim they're women and the Supreme Court agrees. One party openly pushes socialist policy and is leading in every poll. That ideology dominates every single facet of society, with our side's evidence of strength being a silent majority. Parents no longer control their kids' education and values imbuing, but instead are helpless in watching their kids become lost to the left.

And I'm the one silly in thinking a leftist tsunami is coming? You might be right this one last time, but at some point CA-level results become the norm on a national level. If we win, we'll have been saved by the -strength- of the left scaring off just enough indep voters.

All the while still swimming against the tide of leftist control of every institution of people production the country has. Show me a dismantling of public education and then I'll say we have a chance to save the country.

1984-type result? 525 to 13? 60-40 R? Trump lost the pop vote by 3 mil in 2016, that has to widen on just demographics. Look to the CA Repub party of the 90s, as the Dems there got more insane it didn't matter, the die was cast, the public ed system set the course. I see no evidence we (normal Americans) have any power to manufacture more like us.

Our side is whistling past the graveyard now.


You're assuming the Democrat party is healthy and viable. It's not. The Democrat party is a shell of its former self, and it's only being held together by their hatred for Trump.

Here's what's coming: Trump will win this November and the Democrats will be shell-shocked once again that their beloved party got dismantled by Trump. The fact that their party is capable of being defeated twice in a row by an orange haired political novice game show host will send them reeling, and will cause them to either move back to center or reinvent themselves. Since moving back to center is not an option, I believe we will see a different party -- what that looks like I have no idea.

Something has got to give -- when outright lies broadcast over the open airwaves (Russia-Gate, Ukraine-Gate, etc) is ineffective it's time to try something new.

Sombeech
09-03-2020, 07:16 AM
lolol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=48&v=e4AB242FxLk&feature=emb_l ogo

This is truly a beautiful age we are living in

Sombeech
09-03-2020, 07:37 AM
The Democrats are all in on Mail in Voting. That's where their efforts are. This is the last chance for them to win, through cheating in mail in voting.

They all ranted and raved about the 2016 election being meddled in, but this year there's no concern about the failures of millions of ballots flowing through mailboxes.

This is because they are counting on it, they need it.

And it's not only about cheating on millions of ballots, and shredding the Republican marked ones so they never make it.... after all, the Postal workers UNION supports Biden...

No, it's about delaying the results of the election, so by Jan 20th if there's still no clear winner, Pelosi becomes President.

The answer to this is, go and vote at the polls in person. They'll count those votes first. Remember it's a race to 270. All 350 million votes do not need to be counted.

Confusion and Delay is their only tactic, and it's right in line of their pandemic and their BLM riots.

rockgremlin
09-03-2020, 09:59 AM
This video is another example of why the Democrats will get stomped this November. There is a change happening in the Democrat party. Legacy Democrats may not vote for Trump, but they're not going to stand behind a demented, racist pedophile who can't string a sentence together without having a mini-stroke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdJe7tG0-Qw

dougr
09-03-2020, 11:18 AM
You're assuming the Democrat party is healthy and viable. It's not. The Democrat party is a shell of its former self, and it's only being held together by their hatred for Trump.

Granted we disagree on what's to come, but consider the Dems received 58% of the vote in the 2018 House races. Consider they're odds on favorites to take the Senate given the lay of the map. And you think they're on the ropes? Regardless of what motivates them, in numbers there lies power.


Here's what's coming: Trump will win this November and the Democrats will be shell-shocked once again that their beloved party got dismantled by Trump. The fact that their party is capable of being defeated twice in a row by an orange haired political novice

Both sides will be shell shocked by a loss, but ours more so. Our side will have to come to grips that it's over forever. There are not enough of us left. And since they manufacture more through the ed system and immigration than we do with the fumes of passed on Americanism through family, the finality of the loss will be total. A loss for them is simply a delay in the inevitable. We all know, even I'm sure you and @Iceaxe (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=36), the youth indoctrination is so total that there's zero long term chance for the country's survival. They know it as well and will recoup.


reinvent themselves. Since moving back to center is not an option, I believe we will see a different party -- what that looks like I have no idea.

The reinventing seems clear to me. An AOC future. It'll be easy to argue Biden wasn't openly progressive enough. They'll move full-on that direction, and they'll do well with it. It's a winning message for the new electorate. Had this been Sanders losing 60/40 like McGovern did in '72, then you'd see a Jimmy Carter -type movement emerge. But look what happened after Gore lost '00 and Kerry '04. Did Dems move more center? No, they went more left with Obama and won. Then Clinton was less left in '16 than Sanders and lost. The argument that left wins and "center" loses will carry the day in that party.

AOC pushing Markey across the line in MA over a Kennedy has cemented her power. It's her party now.

rockgremlin
09-03-2020, 12:15 PM
^^^When the Left once again regains control - whether that's in 2 months or beyond, a very pressing question still needs to be addressed: what are they going to do with that power once they have it? As we have seen before, the Democrats talk tough, but in the end they're bought and paid for by corporate America. A prime example of this is Obama. We had 8 long years of an African American Democrat in office and they didn't do anything. Obama had the chance to make huge, sweeping changes but in the end he did nothing. And many black Americans claim that their lives were worse under Obama.

And now they want to put up Obama's befuddled, washed up sidekick for president? Pshhh... Yeah right.

dougr
09-03-2020, 12:20 PM
^^^When the Left once again regains control - whether that's in 2 months or beyond, a very pressing question still needs to be addressed: what are they going to do with that power

Permanent mail-in voting and amnesty. Top 2 things they'll do. Consolidate power. Everything else flows from perm Dem control in time.

Byron
09-03-2020, 07:40 PM
Trump came down that escalator and everyone laughed. He stood on stage with 17 other contenders and they all laughed at him. He bragged about being so famous he could grab all the pussy he wanted. He called all his opponents names. The progressive media ridiculed him as a complete joke and the conservative media didn't get on board until he won the primary. His chances of winning the election were widely broadcast as zero.

He mopped the floor with all of them. The Democrats have been trying for 4 years to unseat him...even going so far to drum up impeachment. The progressive media has twisted virtually every word he's said and they've been eating shit sandwiches every...single...time. One right after another.

Trump doesn't lose and to think that a demented old fool like Biden is going to bring him down is ridiculous. You wanna know what else isn't going to happen? Trump isn't going to let a Democrat succeed him. He's not going to leave a pile of crap in his wake like Obama did.

That's the thing about Trump...he'll lay waste to everything his opponents do and then plate all his stuff in gold. That's what the guy does.

dougrz
09-04-2020, 05:06 AM
Trump doesn't lose and to think that a demented old fool like Biden is going to bring him down is ridiculous.

I think it boils down to this: I believe the media and culture are too far gone, too massive, and too powerful to defeat anymore. It isn't Trump's choice or personal determination which'll decide this. It's how powerful Google's search algo suppression is, how all reaching TV bias is, how throughly mail-in vote cheating is done. Half the country will lie, cheat, and steal to beat him and are doing it.

oldno7
09-04-2020, 05:46 AM
United for the People @people4kam
Local residents of Kenosha have gathered outside a church and are waiting for Biden's arrival.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhAjn36UcAACESY?format=jpg&name=small (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhAjn36UcAACESY?format=jpg&name=small)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhBYkziXgAELWoo?format=jpg&name=small

Kayleigh McEnany @kayleighmcenany

The primary OVERFLOW crowd at the RealDonaldTrump Peaceful Protest in Latrobe, Pennsylvania!

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2917/EhB1g0aWAAIiZq5_jpeg-1575890.JPG (https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2917/EhB1g0aWAAIiZq5_jpeg-1575890.JPG)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhBjooeWoAIITkB?format=jpg&name=small

oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:06 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:08 AM
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Byron
09-04-2020, 06:08 AM
I think it boils down to this: I believe the media and culture are too far gone, too massive, and too powerful to defeat anymore. It isn't Trump's choice or personal determination which'll decide this. It's how powerful Google's search algo suppression is, how all reaching TV bias is, how throughly mail-in vote cheating is done. Half the country will lie, cheat, and steal to beat him and are doing it.Not all these kids are brainwashed and the influence of social media works against them just as well. Nobody watches TV anymore but old people and most of them watch Fox News.

The Dems can't "steal" this election because they can't do anything right...like they'd be able to pull that off? Tell me how the average Dem voter is going to cheat the system? I also think you're assuming everybody's going to vote the same way they did in '16? They're not. The Dems have lost MILLIONS.

I'm tellin' ya...all my liberal friends and clients have clammed up and when you look them in the face the corners of their mouths are pointed down. Hate to say it Doug...but you're the only conservative I know that isn't optimistic. Look at the liberal pundits...they're miserable. They know what what's going to happen.

oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:09 AM
https://i.imgur.com/eCFEK4l.jpg

oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:09 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:11 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:14 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:14 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:16 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:16 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:17 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:18 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:19 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:20 AM
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oldno7
09-04-2020, 06:27 AM
http://dailytorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/01-Radical-Joe-Ad-600.jpg

oldno7
09-04-2020, 11:45 AM
https://i.imgur.com/3XtUIc3.jpg

oldno7
09-04-2020, 11:47 AM
https://i.imgur.com/OA2aHTh.jpg

oldno7
09-04-2020, 11:48 AM
https://i.imgur.com/c92kEmx.jpg

oldno7
09-05-2020, 06:05 AM
Well--this could really mess up the rest of 2020


DHS Braces For 'Potential EMP Attack' As Presidential Election Nears DHS's warning published Thur. (Sept. 2), or about 60 days until the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 3, indicates there are "evolving threats against the American homeland, most recently highlighting efforts to combat an Electromagnetic Pulse attack which could disrupt the electrical grid and potentially damage electronics."
The department released an EMP status report via the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) that said the "key actions to address known EMP-related vulnerabilities to critical infrastructure."

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/dhs-braces-potential-emp-attack-presidential-election-nears

oldno7
09-05-2020, 06:16 AM
133 pages???
Ain't nobody got time for dat.

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/19_0307_CISA_EMP-Protection-Resilience-Guidelines.pdf

oldno7
09-05-2020, 06:19 AM
chynaa

Or??



https://www.google.com/search?q=china+develops+first+strike (https://www.google.com/search?q=china+develops+first+strike)

oldno7
09-05-2020, 06:21 AM
Initial Steps Being Taken To Protect Electric Grid From Electromagnetic Pulse EventsOver the past two years there have been several positive developments to protect the electric grid from electromagnetic pulse (EMP) events – manmade or natural phenomenon that could incapacitate large sections of the power grid. Solar storms, nuclear detonations and on-the-ground attacks by terrorists or saboteurs would lead to a cascading effect of frying electric grid components, resulting in long-term power outages, chaos, and death.
The positive developments have occurred in the public policy realm and in important work being done on pilot projects.
A March 26, 2019 Presidential Executive Order (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-coordinating-national-resilience-electromagnetic-pulses/) places higher priority on and outlines steps for better coordination among government agencies so that an EMP attack is less likely to occur and better able to be met. Pilot programs in San Antonio and South Carolina, along with ongoing government research, should be widely disseminated and emulated so that large swaths of the electric grid are protected from EMP within the next 10 years.

https://www.lexingtoninstitute.org/initial-steps-being-taken-to-protect-electric-grid-from-electromagnetic-pulse-events/#:~:text=The%20Joint%20Base%20San%20Antonio-Electromagnetic%20Defense%20Initiative%20%28J%C2%A DBSA-EDI%29,resilient%20electric%20power%20supply%20aft er%20an%20EMP%20attack.

oldno7
09-05-2020, 06:25 AM
I think it's time to head to costco for TP before the strike.

oldno7
09-05-2020, 06:31 AM
Wonder what "Q" knows about this:ne_nau:

dougrz
09-05-2020, 09:02 AM
And friends laughed when I said I wanted to get a carbureted, fully mechanical old vehicle to park for a doomsday EMP scenario.

oldno7
09-05-2020, 11:05 AM
And friends laughed when I said I wanted to get a carbureted, fully mechanical old vehicle to park for a doomsday EMP scenario.

It's the only logical conclusion, 2020 scenario.:kboom:

Get TP before the boom, that is all.

oldno7
09-06-2020, 06:19 AM
https://www.trumparea.com/_pics/watch-liberals-have-a-meltdown.jpg

oldno7
09-06-2020, 06:26 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 06:46 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 06:49 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 06:50 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 06:51 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 06:52 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:12 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:27 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:28 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:29 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:34 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:36 AM
If attorneys lack courage to speak truth about corrupt judges, how can we expect others to do so?

There is corruption in federal judiciary.

For example, judges should not be flying on Jeffrey Epstein’s private jet.

Who is the “John Roberts” on Epstein flight logs?#FightBack (https://twitter.com/hashtag/FightBack?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) https://t.co/t0vsUkuBAC
https://twitter.com/LLinWood/profile_image?size=original Lin Wood (@LLinWood) September 5, 2020 (https://twitter.com/LLinWood/status/1302083052844310528?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:38 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:40 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:41 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:43 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:44 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:45 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:50 AM
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oldno7
09-06-2020, 07:54 AM
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Byron
09-06-2020, 06:26 PM
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/85434/FB_IMG_1599358059464_jpg-1579048.JPG

If anybody is a reptilian overlord, it's this dude here. He's creepy as hell.

oldno7
09-08-2020, 09:33 AM
https://www.trumptent.com/hosted/images/ce/e7fee8e92f4c8d8c1f7e249bc4465a/Trump-Flags-Gif.gif

oldno7
09-09-2020, 06:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/MGEM65z.jpg

oldno7
09-09-2020, 11:23 AM
demonrats don't even try to hide the hypocrisy anymore.

Michigan Democratic governor’s residence getting security upgrades, including new perimeter fence
Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer’s (https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/gretchen-whitmer) state-owned residence will get a $1.1 million security upgrade, with a new 8-foot-tall barrier around the perimeter.



Whitmer said in May that there had been an “explosion” of threats against her, as police brutality protests raged on across the nation and on the heels of protests against her COVID-19 lockdown, known to be one of the most stringent in the nation.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michigan-governor-residence-perimeter-fence

oldno7
09-09-2020, 11:27 AM
Anti-Border Fence Mich. Gov. Whitmer Building 8-Foot High, Electrified Fence Around Governor’s Residence
Despite her vocal opposition to building border walls to keep Americans safe from illegal immigration, Democrat Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer is having an eight-foot high, electrified fence built around her official residence to keep out unwanted visitors.

https://cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/anti-border-fence-mich-gov-whitmer-building-8-foot-high-electrified-fence

oldno7
09-10-2020, 05:59 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 06:01 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 06:14 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 06:15 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 06:16 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 06:16 AM
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Sombeech
09-10-2020, 06:41 AM
Biden will NOT be the Democrat candidate. Something is going to happen, he'll be removed because of some reason like "dementia" or mounting sexual assault charges. Or basically he will disappoint the Dems so much that they call for a last minute change.

Save this post, put it in your little internet pocket.

How much longer do you guys think Biden will be on the ticket?

His obvious case of dementia, do you think it's coincidence, or could it be planned?

Reading the teleprompter commands out loud, receiving the questions ahead of interviews, clearly losing it.

That's all for today, but keep this in the back of your mind.

When it happens, it was planned.

dougrz
09-10-2020, 06:59 AM
How much longer do you guys think Biden will be on the ticket?

He'll remain. He seems less threatening when senile.

oldno7
09-10-2020, 07:57 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 08:54 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 08:58 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 09:00 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 09:01 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 09:03 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 09:05 AM
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oldno7
09-10-2020, 09:09 AM
NBA Donates $300 Million to BLM and the Democrat Party’s Pockets — Now Wants to Set Up Polling Places Which May Be IllegalThe Democrat Party is a fervent supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement and so is the NBA.There is no room for diversity of thought in the National Basketball Association.
The Party and its 2020 candidates have never publicly denounced the associated looting, rioting, and wholesale violence. The Democratic National Committee actively uses the BLM movement to solicit (https://democrats.org/black-lives-matter-organizing-resources/) for donations. BLM is the de facto wing of the party, and Antifa is BLM’s alter ego.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/nba-donates-300-million-blm-democrat-partys-pockets-now-wants-set-polling-places-may-illegal/

BasinCruiser
09-10-2020, 06:52 PM
For months now, the Dems have been very outspoken about how safe and secure and essential the USPS is and how it will be perfectly fine to do mail in voting. So, doors that mean they are OK with purchasing a gun through the mail, or do we still need in person with ID and background checks to prevent fraud? Asking for a friend

Byron
09-10-2020, 06:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsrhDkl_p8

Here's a nice little trip down memory lane. Hey Doug, you aught to check this out...not much has changed with the exception of the Dem candidate being completely worthless.

dougrz
09-10-2020, 09:51 PM
not much has changed with the exception of the Dem candidate being completely worthless.

What has changed is a few million of us died, a few million more graduated from the brainwashing camps, and a few million more 3rd worlders from 5 to 9 years ago became naturalized. It's just math.

oldno7
09-11-2020, 05:14 AM
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BasinCruiser
09-11-2020, 06:54 AM
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Byron
09-11-2020, 08:07 AM
What has changed is a few million of us died, a few million more graduated from the brainwashing camps, and a few million more 3rd worlders from 5 to 9 years ago became naturalized. It's just math.Well gee...where have I heard this before? They said the same thing in '08, '12 and '16. Heck, I remember hearing that the liberal tidal wave was coming back in the 80s...when Clinton got elected they said "That's it, it's over. The country is gone". Obama's reelection was supposed to have solidified it, too.

You're also convinced that a majority of these new voters have pinwheels spinning in their eyes...I'm not. They're looking straight at the shit sammie the Dems have set on the table just like everyone else.

dougrz
09-11-2020, 08:39 AM
Well gee...where have I heard this before? They said the same thing in '08, '12 and '16. Heck, I remember hearing that the liberal tidal wave was coming back in the 80s...when Clinton got elected they said "That's it, it's over. The country is gone". Obama's reelection was supposed to have solidified it, too.

The immigration and demo shift manifests itself in 2 ways: move Dems further left or get status quo Dems more votes, with some ratio of. I think the ratio is close to 100/0 at this point, hence why the race is even marginally close anymore.

Don't we have overwhelming evidence of a leftward shift? Is it fair to say if Dems were even remotely like they were in the 90s they'd romp to victory?

The current Dems, given a normal America of 1980s mindset, would get utterly thrashed. What has changed about the populace?

Sombeech
09-11-2020, 09:15 AM
In 2016, so many people felt lied to, duped by the polls, 98% to 1 Hillary to Trump....

Just curious, what changed to make the polls more trustworthy this time?

I'm amazed at all of the idiots surrounding me who have forgotten about how wrong the polls misled them in 2016, but are right back on that bandwagon now.

I would think, if something scarred me, cut me so deeply that I lost hope for humanity, I would have remembered how I felt only a few years ago. I would assume I'd swear at the heavens to never trust a poll again.

Yet here we are again.

And do you remember how sweet the victory was? Stay tuned.

oldno7
09-12-2020, 01:04 PM
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oldno7
09-12-2020, 01:06 PM
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oldno7
09-13-2020, 04:52 PM
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oldno7
09-13-2020, 04:53 PM
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oldno7
09-13-2020, 04:55 PM
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oldno7
09-14-2020, 06:04 AM
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dougrz
09-14-2020, 07:11 AM
Just curious, what changed to make the polls more trustworthy this time?

I don't look at polls and don't watch TV news at all. Not Fox, not anything. I read only.

It's not polling, in my mind. It's understanding the level of info control, the left tech dominance skewing search results and censoring. The Soviets maintained dominance through info control as much as weapons.

Newt, a die hard in believing Trump would win in 16 and 20, said yesterday he now believes the level of mail-in cheating makes a good chance we either can't win or won't have a result in time for the electoral college to vote. Called it a serious problem.

We're not operating in a normal country. It's a cold civil war, where fully 1/2 will do anything, break any law, to stop us from voting, destroy ballots, purposely prevent the college from voting, etc.

And in opposite experience to Byron, I have exactly zero family or friends who say they'll switch from D to R from 16 to 20. I see the youth in my family having gone left in response to the Trump years. Of the 8 less than 25/30 kids we have, 1 raging Trumper, 1 anarchist, 2 moron D, and 4 hard left near Marxists now. Ugly alignment for our future.

Add: and this result from all basically R parenting. But secular R. You Utahans see a religious component to parenting that helps perpetuate R values better than the mostly secular parenting in my fam. That is how powerful the ed system and pop culture have been in the past 25 years getting here, let alone how hyper powerful in the last 4 years. My thinking is time-averaged, not a snapshot of now.

2018's House vote saw an 8.6% D margin. Don't see why that doesn't roughly hold true this time.

oldno7
09-14-2020, 07:52 AM
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Sombeech
09-14-2020, 07:53 AM
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It just makes him look like a Joe headed dildo

dougrz
09-14-2020, 08:05 AM
2018's House vote saw an 8.6% D margin. Don't see why that doesn't roughly hold true this time.

Add this: I was cautiously optimistic going into Nov 2018 we'd see R gains. I thought then, as you all do now, polls were wrong, '16 proved a new paradigm and undercounting of Trump support. I thought '16 represented a new alignment of a Trump R party, taking middle class D and a chunk of immigrants seeking the freedom of a roaring economy. No. It was the same D-R dynamic, magnified because of demographic trends, with the media and tech assault on Trump having been fully effective. That's when I realized Trump was likely doomed in '20.

We see the same 2 years later. No expansion of the Trump tent, more demo shift to D, virus blame on R, economy loss blame on R, soft on riots blame on D. That equals about the same result as 2018 in my mind.

oldno7
09-14-2020, 08:12 AM
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oldno7
09-14-2020, 08:14 AM
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dougrz
09-14-2020, 08:40 AM
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/DBAB5655-9764-4CCA-B576-DB15FD42C964_jpe-1591384.JPGIncredible reaction by Biden. Might help in MI and PA and WI, where a small movement of hunter's vote or suburban "I need some defense" vote will benefit Trump. But that vote is already for Trump. Squeezing a turnip.

The irony is, the shooter used a small handgun.

But given the open talk of eliminating the filibuster, an "AW" and mag ban is certainly coming.

dougr
09-14-2020, 10:52 AM
In thinking about the '16 and '18 results, constructing a +/- from those base results might be useful. Mine would be as follows, with the last several elections data listed:


'08: D +10.6% House; D +7.2% Pres
'10: R +6.8 House
'12: D +1.2% House; D +3.9 Pres
'14: R +5.7 House
'16: R +1.1% House; D +2.1% Pres
'18: D +8.6% House

This year's modifiers:
Virus: +3 D
Economic loss: +3 D
Biden senility: +1 R
Dem riot support: +3 R
Immigration/demo shift: +1.5 D
Mail-in cheating: +1 D
NET: +4.5 D

Avg of the 2016/18 results gives D +3.2. Add the net +4.5 D modifiers and you get D +7.7 final.

Change the modifiers to fit your thinking and use actual national poll votes to come to a conclusion.

Should probably add two more mods, a "Trump hatred motivator: +5 D" and "Trump love motivator: +3 R" to add a net +2 D and get close to double digits final margin.

Which in my mind is the only question left: is the final margin single or double digit?

Vs a "shy Trump vote" or "the polls are wrong" hope. But list your modifier changes and make an argument, tell me why I'm wrong. We need a debate meltdown +4 R, Durham explosive indictments +3 R, and more riots +2 R to pull this out, imo.

Byron
09-14-2020, 08:04 PM
Newt, a die hard in believing Trump would win in 16 and 20, said yesterday he now believes the level of mail-in cheating makes a good chance we either can't win or won't have a result in time for the electoral college to vote. Called it a serious problem.

Bullshit. Trump will have the election won by mail in votes alone before Halloween...Election Day will just be a formality with even more votes coming to him via those that went to the polls.

You see things one way, Doug...I sure as hell see them another.

Sombeech
09-14-2020, 08:43 PM
Incredible reaction by Biden. Might help in MI and PA and WI, where a small movement of hunter's vote or suburban "I need some defense" vote will benefit Trump. But that vote is already for Trump. Squeezing a turnip.

The silent majority grows. Speaking of PA, look at the massive shift to the right.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200915/403bac2929cbb95cb009a4c9c79378c2.jpg

Iceaxe
09-14-2020, 08:48 PM
Biden is extremely worried about losing his home state of Pennsylvania, which is why he is spending so much time campaigning there. It's extremely rare that a candidate has to spend time and money campaigning in his home state.

rockgremlin
09-14-2020, 08:51 PM
Yeah Doug has shown me the error of my ways...

The Trump train is about to get derailed. Biden will crush Trump this November.

All is lost. AOC will win in 2024, and a full blown Marxist regime will begin during her presidency.

Mark my words...

Iceaxe
09-14-2020, 09:41 PM
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oldno7
09-15-2020, 03:38 AM
I thought this was a Babylon bee article but nope--he serious


Joe Biden Promises Fewer Fires, Floods, and Hurricanes if He Wins in November
“Wildfires are burning the suburbs in the West, floods are wiping out suburban neighborhoods in the Midwest, hurricanes are imperiling suburban life along our coast,” Biden said. “If we have four more years of Trump’s climate denial, how many suburbs will be burned from wildfires? How many suburban neighborhoods will have been flooded out? How many suburbs will have been blown away in superstorms?”

https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/09/14/joe-biden-promises-fewer-fires-floods-and-hurricanes-if-he-wins-in-november-n930658?fbclid=IwAR1jpPZMcLx1rTs87YBNa0sPzvrCfraI_ lbTMZgh3VTHo5lBTAzcvbUV4Ig

oldno7
09-15-2020, 03:48 AM
This seems to go against the narrative.
Of course it's climate cha--er a global warming.

Wildfire Arsonists Create New Questions
(CU) - It's the wildfire season on the west coast. We know all-to-well the extent of damage wildfires can create due to the heavy forestry of the region. This year's season has a different feel and the under-reported arsonist activity throughout the region only perks up more ears. When considering the anarchists dominating the news in this same region, could any of these fires be man-made? Below is a documented review of the unusually active arson arrests and safety concerns throughout the Pacific Northwest.

https://www.clarksvillian.com/post/wildfire-arsonists-are-cause-for-concern

oldno7
09-15-2020, 04:03 AM
https://i.imgur.com/rNGfO1S.jpg

oldno7
09-15-2020, 04:09 AM
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rockgremlin
09-15-2020, 06:48 AM
I thought this was a Babylon bee article but nope--he serious


Joe Biden Promises Fewer Fires, Floods, and Hurricanes if He Wins in November
“Wildfires are burning the suburbs in the West, floods are wiping out suburban neighborhoods in the Midwest, hurricanes are imperiling suburban life along our coast,” Biden said. “If we have four more years of Trump’s climate denial, how many suburbs will be burned from wildfires? How many suburban neighborhoods will have been flooded out? How many suburbs will have been blown away in superstorms?”

https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/09/14/joe-biden-promises-fewer-fires-floods-and-hurricanes-if-he-wins-in-november-n930658?fbclid=IwAR1jpPZMcLx1rTs87YBNa0sPzvrCfraI_ lbTMZgh3VTHo5lBTAzcvbUV4Ig

Well, he also promised to cure cancer. :roll:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-cure-cancer-president

How can people take him seriously?

oldno7
09-15-2020, 10:57 AM
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BasinCruiser
09-15-2020, 11:28 AM
We all know what the Dems are trying to do and what their game plan is, despite their denials. But, eventually they reveal it, either by accident, or slowly and subtle. Kamala has let slip the truth that this is indeed the Harris/Biden campaign, not the Biden Harris campaign.


95370


https://nypost.com/2020/09/15/kamala-harris-accidentally-touts-plan-under-harris-administration/amp/?fbclid=IwAR0fzG7-EIcwcHRONcnxTm5RzUf38iVZmpXUlMQuLq5WGHt6g4iD7lo_q5 c

oldno7
09-15-2020, 11:45 AM
^^^^and everyone but joe knows this.

dougrz
09-15-2020, 01:53 PM
The silent majority grows. Speaking of PA, look at the massive shift to the right.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200915/403bac2929cbb95cb009a4c9c79378c2.jpgNow that's a good data point.

dougrz
09-15-2020, 01:54 PM
I thought this was a Babylon bee article but nope--he serious


Joe Biden Promises Fewer Fires, Floods, and Hurricanes if He Wins in November
[COLOR=#333333]I do agree more burning if Trump wins. Arson fires from the leftist rioters will be epic.

Byron
09-15-2020, 05:14 PM
I do agree more burning if Trump wins. Arson fires from the leftist rioters will be epic.Which, IMO...will undermine them even more.

So the anarchist, the BLM, the socialists, the progressives, etc...are sporting for a fight, right? They can't win against us, the conservatives that will shoot back. They'll never gain political power via the Conservative party. We are the toughest opponent they have...so who are they going to go after? Themselves.

That's right. The best thing that can happen is the Democrats get creamed in this upcoming election and their party is severely weakened. Biden will retire, Harris is nothing, Pelosi will be ousted, Bernie and Warren's "best" days are behind them...the party as it is will have to fight off these people that would be looking to fill the vacuum. A civil war in the Democrat Party...that's where that battle will be fought...that's the only place that they can ever hope to gain real political power and one way or another, a "new" Dem party will be created...like I've been saying for years now...the "reformation".

Unfortunately for the string pullers it isn't going to come about by choice, but by war. It remains to be seen if the more "moderate" elements of the Dem party survive. I think they'll try to buy the punks off and if that doesn't work they're in big trouble.

They pulled it off after the defeat in '72...but this time I think it's going to be a tall order hoping that the loudmouths blend into the background like they did then. They went too deep into the shithole and lost control.

dougrz
09-15-2020, 05:19 PM
A civil war in the Democrat Party...that's where that battle will be fought...that's the only place that they can ever hope to gain real political power and one way or another, a "new" Dem party will be created...like I've been saying for years now...the "reformation".

And if your prognostication comes about, this will be an epic foreseeing of a future few else see.

Byron
09-15-2020, 05:37 PM
And if your prognostication comes about, this will be an epic foreseeing of a future few else see.Man, it looks obvious to me. They are so fragmented...liberals are "mostly" peace loving people. Most are pacifists and try to live their lives hiding their eyes from bad things. But those that speak and act for them are careening out of control...COMPLETELY. The more aggressive aspects of their ideology is going to beat them down...well heck, it already has.

That's what I'm saying...they're easy meat and these punks ALWAYS go for the easy pickings first.

You see them as gaining power, I see them as losing it. This election is going to show us the lay of the land because the contrast is so severe. I was only 9 years old in '72 and although I remember seeing "McGovern" and "Peace" bumper stickers all over the place, I wasn't old enough to study or even "feel" the mood...but from what I've read it was quite a severe contrast in itself...and we all know how it turned out.

dougrz
09-16-2020, 05:38 AM
Been thinking about your contentions. What strikes me is this: yes, there has been a sizable move to Trump in the wake of the riots. Hence why the media won't cover them anymore, or the wildfire arsons, or discuss the police ambush in L.A.

But it's like saying some % in CA has moved. It likely doesn't change the outcome given the base electorate. This isn't 1980 America anymore. It's Mexico-level corruption, incompetence, and voter apathy about real issues. Guided by a very intelligent, determined, powerful, entrenched leftist head. This isn't Venezualan street thug leftism. It's Chinese level sophisticated leftism that, in a "free" society, has seized control of basically all state and corporate organs.

A good example of this dynamic is the recent discussion of inroads Trump has made with Latinos. I don't doubt it. He may very well increase his support by 10% or even a third. From 25 to 35. Or 30 to 40, whatever. But when the fastest growing demo in the country, literally the replacement for a dying demo that is 2/3 in his favor, is somewhere around 60% to 2/3 against him, the movement in context doesn't matter. And given the razor margins in 2016, how do these net numbers lead to a win now?

If my read of the pulse is right, the greatest existential problem we'll face post election is where to go. The post election despondency will be deep, after the understanding this was 55 years in the making fully settles in. It isn't correctable. These are massive forces of history. Kennedy's 1960s immigration opening set the stage. Ironic that a Kennedy finally lost in MA this last week, devoured by the force he set in motion.

For me this is no different than seeing the fall of CA. I grew up there, under 16 consecutive R governor years. In a few short years, the left steam rolled a mildly R state into D supermajorities in both chambers and 2/3 D votes for state offices. Permanently. It's playing out nationally now. There is no "people will see through it" salvation when a fundamentally bad electorate incapable of navigating beyond the information control tips over the edge.

Byron
09-16-2020, 06:08 AM
Guided by a very intelligent, skilled, determined, powerful, entrenched leftist head. This isn't Venezualan street thug leftism. It's Chinese level sophisticated leftism that, in a "free" society, has seized control of all state and corporate organs.

This is where we differ...I think they're flying by the seat of their pants. For example...how do you explain Biden? If they wanted to seize power, all they had to do was get someone competent to take the job. I don't think it would be too hard to put someone up that would peel off Trump voters...they could have done it with someone a lot more moderate. Hillary damn near won by standing in the middle of the seesaw.

I really don't think they're that organized. They're too busy fighting or buying each other off. The liberal illuminati as it is is a loose confederation of media and marketing moguls trying to hold together a coalition of voters by offering...what? I think their power and influence is actually waning...they're desperate.

Take Facebook, for example. Ten years ago EVERYBODY on both sides of my family were on it...the uncles, aunts, cousins, their kids. Constantly posting...many times a week, sometimes daily. Nowadays? Damn near everyone is gone...the only ones posting are a few kids of my cousins who have toddlers with their oh so cute little videos. Most of them haven't posted in years...anything more than "Happy Birthday". I think more and more people are waking up to the manipulation and opting out.

I agree that apathy has allowed some of the freaks to assume power in state and local politics in particular...like a Trojan horse that worked it's way in there while no one was looking...but now we've had a good, close look at what they're all about and it's ugly as hell. The camouflage has been removed.

The silent majority? Oh yeah...we're all back of the bus like. Payback is a bitch.

Iceaxe
09-16-2020, 07:16 AM
If the Democrats were organized and knew what they were doing they would have ran Tulsi Gabbard against Trump and would have probably won. But the Democrats are really nothing but a raging dumpster fire at this point in time.

oldno7
09-16-2020, 07:40 AM
https://image.cagle.com/243295/750/243295.png

dougrz
09-16-2020, 11:01 AM
For example...how do you explain Biden? If they wanted to seize power, all they had to do was get someone competent to take the job. I don't think it would be too hard to put someone up that would peel off Trump voters...they could have done it with someone a lot more moderate. Hillary damn near won by standing in the middle of the seesaw.



Think about it: how much money is tied up in companies like Apple, Walmart, Pfizer, Amazon, Tesla, Bank of America, Exxon, etc, etc? It's trillions of dollars at stake here. All that isn't going to get sold out to the hyper liberal agenda. Quit yer snivelling, it's gonna be ok.

I think rock's comment explains why Biden. He's the perfect trojan candidate. The others, especially Bernie and Warren, would have been doing huge proclamations about govt takeovers and redistribution. Instead we have a slow, dumb, but harmless old man, and rock's reaction is what a lot of people think: nothing really bad will happen if he wins.

The media has cultivated that image and it's the dominant belief in the campaign. It makes the down vote in a Trump up/down election risk free. They've succeeded.

Byron
09-16-2020, 11:41 AM
I think rock's comment explains why Biden. He's the perfect trojan candidate. The others, especially Bernie and Warren, would have been doing huge proclamations about govt takeovers and redistribution. Instead we have a slow, dumb, but harmless old man, and rock's reaction is what a lot of people think: nothing really bad will happen if he wins.

The media has cultivated that image and it's the dominant belief in the campaign. It makes the down vote in a Trump up/down election risk free. They've succeeded.I understand what Rock is saying...and the fact that Bernie has bit the dust just means that the money they invested paid off. We're not talking about Bernie or Warren...they're gone.

Remember South Carolina? It appeared that Bernie was going to get the nod with tepid support and even before that primary came along the progressive media was sounding the alarm that Biden needed to get the "black vote" or it was all over. You know what all that big corporate money bought? Votes.

I guarantee you that briefcases full of cash were passed out to every black preacher in that state to stump for Biden. Every other candidate had been rejected...not so much because of their "stance on the issues" but by pure apathy. Biden was the last man standing against the Socialist and the DNC had no choice but to hook their wagon to him. He's there because no one else wanted the job or they weren't sucking enough DNC dick (Gabbard).

They even brought in a card carrying member of the Illuminati to save the day and he was laughed out of the room...and who did the laughing? The progressives themselves. Bloomberg probably could have won...but like I said, they're too busy fighting with each other as well as being so ideologically screwed up they don't know if they're coming or going. A dumpster fire, indeed.

Trojan horse? They don't need a dumbshit like Biden to get their way. That Starbucks guy would have gone along with the program, so would Klobuchar or Pete for that matter. They needed an anti-Trump Trump and they failed.

oldno7
09-16-2020, 11:46 AM
INCREMENTALISM

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fegbertowillies.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2FEmpty-frame.png&f=1&nofb=1

rockgremlin
09-16-2020, 05:06 PM
Just remember: The winner of this election will be the guy who promises to prop up the big corporations the most. Right now that guy is Trump.

Mark my words... :mrgreen:

oldno7
09-16-2020, 06:43 PM
EMBARRASSING! Democrats Hold Car Parade for Jill Biden (Joe’s at home) — Only Handful of Cars Show Up — VIDEO
Democrats held a car parade on Wednesday for Jill Biden.
It was embarrassing!
While Joe Biden stayed home his wife traveled to New Hampshire (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/jill-biden-hits-campaign-trail-new-hampshire-feeble-biden-stays-put-delaware-video/) to campaign.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/embarrassing-democrats-hold-car-parade-jill-biden-joes-home-handful-cars-show-video/

Byron
09-16-2020, 06:59 PM
EMBARRASSING! Democrats Hold Car Parade for Jill Biden (Joe’s at home) — Only Handful of Cars Show Up — VIDEO


Democrats held a car parade on Wednesday for Jill Biden.
It was embarrassing!
While Joe Biden stayed home his wife traveled to New Hampshire (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/jill-biden-hits-campaign-trail-new-hampshire-feeble-biden-stays-put-delaware-video/) to campaign.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/embarrassing-democrats-hold-car-parade-jill-biden-joes-home-handful-cars-show-video/Yeah...the flag waving, gun toting, all American don't tread on me types are no match for this gang of marauders.

The comments section is off the hook. Conservative types can be so diabolically clever...the liberals? Not so much.

Iceaxe
09-16-2020, 09:06 PM
EMBARRASSING! Democrats Hold Car Parade for Jill Biden (Joe’s at home) — Only Handful of Cars Show Up — VIDEO
Democrats held a car parade on Wednesday for Jill Biden.
It was embarrassing!
While Joe Biden stayed home his wife traveled to New Hampshire (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/jill-biden-hits-campaign-trail-new-hampshire-feeble-biden-stays-put-delaware-video/) to campaign.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/embarrassing-democrats-hold-car-parade-jill-biden-joes-home-handful-cars-show-video/
On a positive note I always wondered how many was in "a handful"...

....and now I know it's four.

LMAO

dougrz
09-17-2020, 06:33 AM
I haven't visited RCP since the D primaries and specifically don't read polls. But this headline on the DC couldn't be missed.

If accurate, Trump would cakewalk. D needs to win nationally by 3 or 4 to win on EVs.

Would be interesting for someone to see how accurate Rasmussen was in 2016.

https://dailycaller.com/2020/9/16/donald-trump-joe-biden-approval-rasmussen-poll/

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200917/1ec8bbb933dc3479fa0f77c9faa4ea94.jpg

oldno7
09-17-2020, 11:40 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Z664qVI.jpg

Sombeech
09-17-2020, 01:05 PM
Biden will NOT concede this election.

Disinformation will run rampant, the media wants to confuse everybody on the election results.

dougrz
09-17-2020, 10:08 PM
Biden will NOT concede this election.

Disinformation will run rampant, the media wants to confuse everybody on the election results.For the left, either result is a win. Obviously if Biden wins they achieve their final defeat of the country. If lose, the narrative of a racist and immoral Constitutional election process gains steam. Going to be a very ugly Nov.

oldno7
09-18-2020, 05:55 AM
https://i.imgur.com/cHndN93.jpg

oldno7
09-18-2020, 05:58 AM
https://i.imgur.com/IVzJnE8.jpg

Byron
09-18-2020, 05:58 AM
If lose, the narrative of a racist and immoral Constitutional election process gains steam. Going to be a very ugly Nov.And then what are they gonna do?...beat us over the head with that for another two years? Like that will help them in the next midterms?

They've got narrative this and narrative that and everything else. I think the defeat is going to show them quite clearly that their tactics are flawed and they need to shift gears. I think they've gone way too far to the left to gain votes and they'll realize that they need to get back to the middle...besides, they're going to be too busy fighting off the socialists in their own party. The party will be fighting a war while their media partners do everything they can to reduce the number of people fleeing the venue.

I'd say they know it's coming and rather than shock and awe, the reaction will be more of disgust. Like hermit crabs, the progressive media will crawl back a bit more into their shells and the only thing they'll have to offer is bloody red meat for those that watch them 24 hrs a day with TDS eyeballs.

Yesterday I did a small job and when I was done I came inside to get paid. The homeowner and I were talking about politics and it was 3 o'clock. He had Fox on and I told him to turn it over to CNN and check out the frownie faces...sure enough, Mr. Blitzer had his miserable crew of pundits, one after another, looking like they just watched a puppy get hit by a car. Check it out for yourself....all frowns, no smiles. America is going to ditch that crap like a psycho spouse that's throwing dishes against the wall.

Last time it was over by what...11pm? Hillary made the phone call, shit her pants and probably downed a whole bottle of vodka. This time I think it'll happen even sooner than that.

oldno7
09-18-2020, 05:59 AM
https://i.imgur.com/HTrvtjT.jpg

oldno7
09-18-2020, 06:01 AM
https://i.imgur.com/HwWwdfN.jpg

Byron
09-18-2020, 06:15 AM
https://i.imgur.com/HwWwdfN.jpgIsn't that something?...Bernie gets his ass kicked (again) a dirtbag is accidentally killed and millions of people are made to suffer...and they want us to hand them the keys to the kingdom?

Like James Holmes, the guy that shot up the Aurora movie theater. He asked the jury to do him a favor and spare his life...even though he did no favors whatsoever to the people he killed and maimed. Amongst the jury, 11 people voted to put him to death...but one pathetic weirdo voted to grant his wish.

dougr
09-18-2020, 08:24 AM
And then what are they gonna do?...beat us over the head with that for another two years? Like that will help them in the next midterms?

They will and it will, yes. This is the story of the left for decades. Discrediting freedom, this country, and its people. Hasn't it worked? They own it all, have corrupted the culture, have destroyed faith in our institutions, and are on the edge of winning it all with openly leftist policies. Why wouldn't they continue the same strategy? The story of this country's politics is how amazing, how remarkable it is that half the country hates it, half the country wants to give up freedom, half the country doesn't recognize the decency and prosperity we have. They have been poisoned.

I know you disagree, but let me ask you this. What if I'm right and they do sweep it all in 6 weeks? What will your prescription for our side be?

dougrz
09-18-2020, 12:36 PM
The story of this country's politics is how amazing, how remarkable it is that half the country hates it, half the country wants to give up freedom, half the country doesn't recognize the decency and prosperity we have.

Add: It can be argued the modern American leftist movement is the most successful, most impressive political force this country has seen. And arguably one of the top the world has ever seen. It's much easier to take power in real times of crisis or war or famine or destruction. The Nazis, Soviets, Chicoms, Castro, and NK are all examples of that.

But to take power and remake a culture and society and economy when people are free and prosperous? While manufacturing fake crises? Incredible level of brainwashing, denial of reality, and consistent information control is needed. And that's what we have. They're at 45 to 55% of the population with non-stop, massive propaganda, pop culture manipulation, and school control. Without those, they'd be at 25%.

You have to hand it to them. Heck of an incredible movement, thorough in its spread.

rockgremlin
09-18-2020, 05:37 PM
^^^My new theory is that dougrz is in reality a troll for the ultra progressive left. His objective is to sway public opinion in favor of neo-progressive values. This is accomplished by using hyperbole and despair to illustrate a scenario where resistance to liberalism is futile. Where conservatism and capitalism are struggling to take their final breaths from the deathbed while the juggernaut of liberalism is poised to put the final nail in their coffin forever.

I'm positive ole' Dougie Downer will agree with almost all of this theory, but I gotta ask -- can you really consider a hairy-legged octagenarian with dementia to be a juggernaut? I can't. My theory is the opposite. I believe the Dem party is fragmented and struggling to keep their head above water. If they didn't have the media they would be completely irrelevant.

Iceaxe
09-18-2020, 05:44 PM
Democrats have the media and social media.

Byron
09-18-2020, 06:41 PM
^^^My new theory is that @dougrz (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=26963) is in reality a troll for the ultra progressive left. His objective is to sway public opinion in favor of neo-progressive values. This is accomplished by using hyperbole and despair to illustrate a scenario where resistance to liberalism is futile. Where conservatism and capitalism are struggling to take their final breaths from the deathbed while the juggernaut of liberalism is poised to put the final nail in their coffin forever.

I'm positive ole' Dougie Downer will agree with almost all of this theory, but I gotta ask -- can you really consider a hairy-legged octagenarian with dementia to be a juggernaut? I can't. My theory is the opposite. I believe the Dem party is fragmented and struggling to keep their head above water. If they didn't have the media they would be completely irrelevant.Damn Rock...that was magnificent. All kinds of nifty imagery goin' on there...friggin' bravo!

rockgremlin
09-18-2020, 06:50 PM
.that was magnificent.

I see it as a concerted demoralization campaign. Nonstop doomsday predictions to tear down the optimism and resolve of conservatives.

Change my mind...

Byron
09-18-2020, 06:53 PM
They own it all,
I know you disagree, but let me ask you this. What if I'm right and they do sweep it all in 6 weeks? What will your prescription for our side be?I'll answer this in two parts...first, they don't own it all.

Secondly, if your prediction of a Dem sweep were to actually occur, I'd say one of two things would happen...

One...not much is going to really change, it'll be similar to what Obama's tenure was like. The Elite Corporate Illuminati Liberal/Progressive string pullers will go one doing what they can to push more of their products, get even richer and throw a few bones to the noisy far left. Which would be quite ironic considering they'd be giving supreme power to the very people they supposedly despise...but I guess they don't see it that way. The enemy of the enemy is my friend.

Two...it gets ugly in a great number of ways. In that case, it'll be time to cash out and buy that cabin in the woods fully loaded up for the long haul. We saw the grocery stores get cleaned out in a hurry...and although they stocked back up reasonably quick, if they didn't then it would be smart to be prepared. Regardless of the outcome of this election, I'm going to be dropping about 10K in prepper supplies before the end of the year. Something I've never seriously considered as necessary in the past...but things have changed.

Byron
09-18-2020, 06:54 PM
I see it as a concerted demoralization campaign. Nonstop doomsday predictions to tear down the optimism and resolve of conservatives.

Change my mind...More like a tragic comedy to me.

dougrz
09-18-2020, 08:27 PM
^^^My new theory is that dougrz is in reality a troll for the ultra progressive left.

Quite the unique take. I've been in this fight a long time and am keenly aware of how desperately our side has been defeated, for decades. I honestly believe until enough on our side understand the ruthlessness with which the left operates, we have no chance.

They will not stop until we are either homeless, penniless, or in prison re-education camps.

Or, wait, they force people to lose their jobs, harass us in our homes, and make us take sensitivity training. We're already there to a degree. And that degree will only grow as time passes. Unless we fight with every fiber of our being.

Call me a radical. I can't type in public what I really think the solution is.

Byron
09-18-2020, 08:37 PM
Call me a radical. I can't type in public what I really think the solution is.Why not? I would.

Think it might be construed as racist or genocidal? Quite frankly, If I had omnipotent power I'd pull a full on Thanos...hundreds of millions if not a billion or more would vanish into thin air.

It would run the full spectrum of humanity in regards to race, etc...I'd go after murders, child molesters, thieves, terrorists, arsonists all the way down to those who would hack your bank account and clean you out without a second thought.

Would I hesitate? Absolutely not. Give me that power now and I'll snap my fingers...and then sleep like a baby.

dougrz
09-18-2020, 09:09 PM
One...not much is going to really change, it'll be similar to what Obama's tenure was like

I hate to read that. It tells me people don't take this threat seriously enough. First order of biz: amnesty.


I'm going to be dropping about 10K in prepper supplies before the end of the year. Something I've never seriously considered as necessary in the past...but things have changed.

Already at 7k with a generator, tri-fuel modded, to come. I think there's a decent chance a Trump win will see the left start to take out utilities. A nat gas gen would be the best electric source in my mind. Nat gas is all underground and the limited in number pump stations much easier to secure than gasoline supply lines or the comically insecure power grid. A few more handgun bullets for the stash, and I'm still hitting a particular recycling place that lets brass go way too cheap. Though the owner told me her brother no longer wants her to sell, I've been sneaking loads by the other employees who haven't been told not to sell yet, apparently. If you're looking for some. Sold my Jeep TJ and am getting rid of my commuter car to go with an SUV as a tow and bug out and winter vehicle. Have food, water, arms, gasoline decently covered.

An SUV might be a poor near term choice if Dems sweep. Gas prices will go ape over the next 4 years and truck prices might tank. "Might" because a CAFE return to 50+ would kill the new light truck market in 5 to 10 years, which could make the existing fleet more valuable. I don't think, given the unlimited power post-amnesty Dems would have, they'd exempt light trucks to the degree they were in the past.

rockgremlin
09-18-2020, 09:18 PM
Quite the unique take. I've been in this fight a long time and am keenly aware of how desperately our side has been defeated, for decades. I honestly believe until enough on our side understand the ruthlessness with which the left operates, we have no chance.

They will not stop until we are either homeless, penniless, or in prison re-education camps.

Or, wait, they force people to lose their jobs, harass us in our homes, and make us take sensitivity training. We're already there to a degree. And that degree will only grow as time passes. Unless we fight with every fiber of our being.

Call me a radical. I can't type in public what I really think the solution is.

I appreciate your passion. I wish there were more Dougrz's in America.

But I think you give the Dems more credit than they deserve. A large portion of the party is disenchanted with the leadership and the current direction. And the real die hard Blue Chip Democrats are bought and paid for by corporations. This is the reason why Obama did nothing with the 8 years he had in office.

These are the reasons why I'm constantly saying the Dems are fragmented -- most are either pissed at the status quo or handcuffed by big business.

Iceaxe
09-18-2020, 09:19 PM
How many guns and how much ammo are you stocking?!?

I have more than most small nations... I'm good. ;-)

I also put out some liberal bait and I'm waiting for those threatening to attack the suburbs...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/d44874b52a36585caf9403dac2f2bf55.jpg

dougrz
09-18-2020, 09:48 PM
How many guns and how much ammo are you stocking?!?

I have more than most small nations... I'm good. ;-)

Good chance I have more than you. Doesn't mean more ready to go, though. Have to make them.

dougrz
09-18-2020, 09:52 PM
I appreciate your passion. I wish there were more Dougrz's in America.

That's nice, thanks.

Look at me this way. I'm more Kyle Reese shaking Sarah Connor to her damn senses than any other analogy I can think of. They will not stop! Ever! Don't you understand me! Until they are killed!

Now if some of you sumbitches around here were just decently attractive women.

On a serious note, I started listening to Dennis Prager (of now PragerU fame) from maybe age 12. I was a ww2 history buff as a kid also. Big issues, big history have always grabbed me. These are big times and a big threat. Nothing matters to me more than this country, honestly.

Iceaxe
09-18-2020, 10:21 PM
Good chance I have more than you. Doesn't mean more ready to go, though. Have to make them.

Hahaha.... I highly doubt that. I deal in a lot of firearms. I have and FFL to deal in firearms and I have an FFL to manufacture firearms. One of the family businesses is manufacturing and selling a firearms. I normally buy ammo by the pallet and firearms in bulk.

I have several reloaders that will load 1000 rounds an hour.

Let's see... at one time I was Utah, NV and Wyoming Sporting Clay's champion. My father and step mother have held so many state and national shooting Championships I couldn't even count.

So... you still want to make that bet?

dougrz
09-18-2020, 11:53 PM
Hahaha.... I highly doubt that. I deal in a lot of firearms. I have an FFL to deal in firearms and I have an FFL to manufacture firearms. One of the family businesses is manufacturing and selling firearms. I normally buy ammo by the pallet and firearms in bulk.

I have several reloaders that will load 1000 rounds an hour.

Well hell if you manufacture and have inventory, no. 1k rounds an hour sounds like RL1050s with Mark 7s. That I can match. My powder stash would level my immediate neighbors and my lead quantity would kill the Yellowstone buffalo herd. Other than that I have 3 boxes of 22 LR and an airgun.

What is your family weapons brand?

dougrz
09-18-2020, 11:58 PM
Why not? I would.

Think it might be construed as racist or genocidal? Quite frankly, If I had omnipotent power I'd pull a full on Thanos...hundreds of millions if not a billion or more would vanish into thin air.

Everyone you pointed out was for non-political reasons. Admirable and restrained, actually. The left wouldn't be so decent in their targeting.

Iceaxe
09-19-2020, 04:17 AM
My powder stash would level my immediate neighbors and my lead quantity would kill the Yellowstone buffalo herd.

Funny story.... the fire marshal was doing a regular fire inspection of my old office building. And when he entered the room where we stored powder he about shit himself...

Just an FYI... Stock up on primers because when ammo gets scarce so do primers and all the brass, lead and powder become worthless.

Financial tip... if your prediction of a Democratic sweep happens 9mm and 5.56 will instantly double or triple in price so get out of stocks and gold and invest in ammo :-)

Iceaxe
09-19-2020, 04:39 AM
Being Liberal - blaming all your past life misfortune on TRUMP and believing Socialism is going to get you a new car and better life!!!

Byron
09-19-2020, 06:07 AM
Everyone you pointed out was for non-political reasons. Admirable and restrained, actually. The left wouldn't be so decent in their targeting.That's why God would grant it to me and not one of them...I could care less about the philosophy marbles rattling around in someone else's head...for me it's all about peace, safety and stability. You're never going to stop people from arguing...just don't get violent.

In other words...I wouldn't try to shape the world in my ideal image, I'd just take out the trash.

Iceaxe
09-19-2020, 07:31 AM
In other words...I wouldn't try to shape the world in my ideal image, I'd just take out the trash.

I assume you realize that is almost exactly Trump philosophy.

Trump is not trying to reshape the world in his image. He is a very pragmatic man and is just trying to broker solutions to the major problems.

dougrz
09-19-2020, 01:03 PM
Doing my first campaign volunteer activity. And so it begins for me. Shutting down work till the end. I'm in the offices starting Monday.

And to think I did 4 weeks in 2012 for Romney. That was the first election I called wrong. I was convinced on election night he'd win based on inside office data I was seeing and my own on the ground obs. That was my first election to witness in CO, read it wrong, missed the early blue turn of CO that is now near total. Of course I followed up with being wrong on election night 2016. Had the first 7 correct anyway.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/ca8f271dea35af2975ebc4b8dfe61e3e.jpg

rockgremlin
09-19-2020, 02:54 PM
That was the first election I called wrong. I was convinced on election night he'd win based on inside office data I was seeing and my own on the ground obs. That was my first election to witness in CO, read it wrong, missed the early blue turn of CO that is now near total. Of course I followed up with being wrong on election night 2016.


You might be on track for a hat trick... :lol8:

dougrz
09-19-2020, 03:12 PM
You might be on track for a hat trick... [emoji38]8:I would never be happier than having to pay off 5 steak dinner bets. No cost matters.

Byron
09-19-2020, 05:22 PM
I would never be happier than having to pay off 5 steak dinner bets. No cost matters.You've actually got steak dinners on this thing with 5 different people? Hey Doug...I'll take that bet!

I'll even sweeten the deal...2 for 1. Your Dem apocalypse happens I owe ya two, Trump wins you owe me one.

Wadda ya say? We can eat at The Fort.

oldno7
09-19-2020, 07:42 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/kXRMSLQy/25354ff9ebf4c306f8414c3152f9f6cf4cf276a62df7aed84d c563826321be39.jpg

dougrz
09-19-2020, 08:01 PM
You've actually got steak dinners on this thing with 5 different people? Hey Doug...I'll take that bet!

I'll even sweeten the deal...2 for 1. Your Dem apocalypse happens I owe ya two, Trump wins you owe me one.

Wadda ya say? We can eat at The Fort.I'll do. Though I'll be so sick if we lose I won't give a damn about collecting.

Just come over for some grilling this week. Invite open. Pics for rock to know I'm real.

Byron
09-19-2020, 08:08 PM
I'll do. Though I'll be so sick if we lose I won't give a damn about collecting.

Just come over for some grilling this week. Invite open. Pics for rock to know I'm real.Sounds like a plan. I'll PM ya tomorrow, we'll set it up.

oldno7
09-20-2020, 03:47 PM
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/48896/208_png-1599361.JPG

Iceaxe
09-21-2020, 05:47 AM
The Helmut Northpoth model has been correct 24 out 26 predictions. I think it's also looking good this time around because I believe the silent majority is about to make a very loud statement.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200921/d27b1b6db9c9ae5fadd28a22650cff9a.jpg

oldno7
09-21-2020, 06:03 AM
https://cdn.creators.com/199/286698/286698_image.jpg

Byron
09-21-2020, 06:15 AM
The Helmut Northpoth model has been correct 24 out 26 predictions. I think it's also looking good this time around because I believe the silent majority is about to make a very loud statement.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200921/d27b1b6db9c9ae5fadd28a22650cff9a.jpgIf Colorado were to turn red, that would be awesome. I live relatively close to town and during election years you'll see signs for Dems all over the place.

Don't see a whole lot of that these days...in fact, I can probably count on one hand the number of Biden signs I've seen in the last two months...even the Jewish "Hilltop" neighborhood up the street is barren.

rockgremlin
09-21-2020, 07:05 AM
The Helmut Northpoth model has been correct 24 out 26 predictions. I think it's also looking good this time around because I believe the silent majority is about to make a very loud statement.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200921/d27b1b6db9c9ae5fadd28a22650cff9a.jpg


^^^This is about what I think will happen with the exception of New York and Minnesota. I don't think New York will flip red this year although it's gonna be very close because of DeBlasio and Cuomo's atrocious handling of Coronavirus and crime in general.

Iceaxe
09-21-2020, 02:21 PM
Kim klacik's latest campaign ad is another big hit. I think this chick might be positioned to become very influential to conservatives... the AOC of the GOP...

https://youtu.be/wBebl5fqzCA

devo_stevo
09-21-2020, 02:28 PM
I love it when they tell you what the plan is. I would totally vote for her if I was in Baltimore. Love it.

rockgremlin
09-21-2020, 04:19 PM
Kim klacik's latest campaign ad is another big hit. I think this chick might be positioned to be come very influential to conservatives... the AOC of the GOP...

https://youtu.be/wBebl5fqzCA


Damn, I thought I was watching an episode of The Wire there for a second. :haha:


Yeah, I am very impressed with this impactful ad and the impressive woman behind it. We need many more like her.

Iceaxe
09-21-2020, 05:02 PM
Damn, I thought I was watching an episode of The Wire there for a second. :haha:


Hahaha... I had the same thoughts, except she wasn't hooking or slinging and speaks using proper English.

oldno7
09-22-2020, 05:20 AM
https://www.arcamax.com/newspics/189/18931/1893157.gif

oldno7
09-22-2020, 05:24 AM
https://i.imgur.com/QeqdzVD.jpg

oldno7
09-22-2020, 05:25 AM
https://media.thedonald.win/post/fZmvvLzY.png

rockgremlin
09-22-2020, 07:45 AM
Tim Pool is PISSED!!

I like Tim Pool. He's a pretty even-keeled podcaster. He's a self proclaimed liberal leaning independent but is fed up with the Democrat shenanigans to the point that he's now "forced to buy a gun and vote for Trump."

According to Tim, there are thousands out there like him who will show up to the polls this November.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTsN198hNPs

Iceaxe
09-22-2020, 10:33 AM
^^^That's exactly what I keep saying.

Sombeech
09-22-2020, 12:26 PM
I keep trying to figure out how they'll get rid of Biden and slip Michelle Obama in there.

dougrz
09-22-2020, 07:28 PM
After 2 days working out of the office, plus the Sat park rally, and hearing the expectations, this is very different from 2016.

Then, we were all somber and scared. Kept our heads down and worked hard, hoping for a longshot win. Now it's confidence.

I swear to God, that attitude, existing here in the forum too, is going to lead to a big loss.

I see nothing but very bad court rulings on counting ballots after election day, without postmarks, with felons voting, with ballot harvesting, with bad demographics, with social media censorship, etc etc.

Wake TFU guys. Odds are long and a sweep is likely. I have no idea what will make a difference at this point, but do anything you possibly can. Money, time, calls, whatever.

Graham in SC in trouble? I didn't even know that until today when someone brought it up. The lay of Senate races is worse than I thought. -4 or -5 if Graham goes down.

rockgremlin
09-22-2020, 11:22 PM
^^^Doug - You're mistaking optimism for delusion. I prefer to be optimistic because pessimism and fatalism are not productive and are actually destructive.

You should look into it.

Or you could continue in your losing mindset and be miserable. But hey... at least you can tell us all "I told you so" on November 4th, so there's that. :roll:

devo_stevo
09-23-2020, 05:58 AM
The only way that all of the confidence is delusion is if we don't get out and vote when the time comes. So get out there and do your part when the time comes to vote and make your voice heard.

Iceaxe
09-23-2020, 07:19 AM
I don't see Trump supporters failing to vote. I've never see any candidate with this much enthusiasm from his supporters.

On the other hand the last time I saw a candidate with Biden's enthusiasm behind them was Mondale, and we all know what happened there.

devo_stevo
09-23-2020, 07:28 AM
I don't see Trump supporters failing to vote. I've never see any candidate with this much enthusiasm from his supporters.

On the other hand the last time I saw a candidate with Biden's enthusiasm behind them was Mondale, and we all know what happened there.
I agree with this. I've also never seen so much enthusiasm for a president before. I went to the county fair last month and there was a ton of rednecks in their big trucks driving all over town with their Trump flags and US flags waving loud and proud. I thought that was something that you'd see in Tremonton and rural Utah, but a week later, I was in Ogden and saw the same thing. Made me proud.

I've never seen that for any other presidential candidate. Yard signs, yes. Impromptu parades and rallies of support, nope.

oldno7
09-23-2020, 07:43 AM
This has all been erased so well it's incredible.
This just out today...


BREAKING: Hunter Biden Received Millions From Wife Of Ex-Moscow Mayor, Paid Suspects Allegedly Tied To Trafficking, Had Contacts With Individuals Linked To Chinese Military, Senate Report Alleges

A bombshell report from the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs (HSGAC) and the Committee on Finance makes a series of damning new allegations against Hunter Biden, the son of Democrat presidential nominee.
The investigation launched after Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley (R-IA) publicly raised conflict-of-interest concerns about the sale of a U.S. company to a Chinese firm with ties to Hunter Biden a month before Congress was notified about a whistleblower complaint that was the catalyst for Democrats’ impeachment of President Donald Trump. The Senate’s investigation relied on records from the U.S. government, Democrat lobbying groups, and interviews of numerous current and former officials.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-hunter-biden-received-millions-from-wife-of-ex-moscow-mayor-paid-suspects-allegedly-tied-to-trafficking-had-contacts-with-chinese-military-senate-report-alleges

oldno7
09-23-2020, 07:47 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EimKDUQWkAAf61q?format=jpg&name=small

oldno7
09-23-2020, 07:48 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EimKDURXsAAqFwD?format=jpg&name=large

BasinCruiser
09-23-2020, 07:54 AM
95422

Iceaxe
09-23-2020, 07:59 AM
^^^Hahaha.... it took me a second :-)

oldno7
09-23-2020, 08:06 AM
WOW--mini mike is in pursuit of felon votes for dnc.

Bloomberg pays fines for 32,000 felons in Florida so they can vote
Billionaire Michael Bloomberg (https://thehill.com/people/michael-bloomberg-0) has reportedly raised more than $16 million in an effort to help convicted felons in Florida register to vote.
The Florida Rights Restoration Coalition estimated Bloomberg's fundraising push has already paid off monetary obligations for 32,000 felons, Axios reported (https://www.axios.com/bloomberg-michael-felon-voting-florida-2020-7b8122a3-cbfc-4ea6-be59-ae4cd73e0cae.html).

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/517522-bloomberg-pays-fines-for-32000-felons-in-florida-so-they-can-vote

devo_stevo
09-23-2020, 08:55 AM
Nothing to see here. Just a man buying some votes. Nothing to see here. Move along everyone.

BasinCruiser
09-23-2020, 11:01 AM
WOW--mini mike is in pursuit of felon votes for dnc.

Bloomberg pays fines for 32,000 felons in Florida so they can vote


Billionaire Michael Bloomberg (https://thehill.com/people/michael-bloomberg-0) has reportedly raised more than $16 million in an effort to help convicted felons in Florida register to vote.
The Florida Rights Restoration Coalition estimated Bloomberg's fundraising push has already paid off monetary obligations for 32,000 felons, Axios reported (https://www.axios.com/bloomberg-michael-felon-voting-florida-2020-7b8122a3-cbfc-4ea6-be59-ae4cd73e0cae.html).

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/517522-bloomberg-pays-fines-for-32000-felons-in-florida-so-they-can-vote


How much money has he raised to help rebuild the black owned businesses that have been destroyed in the 'mostly peaceful protests'?

Iceaxe
09-23-2020, 07:11 PM
Pretty much....


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200924/eaa3ae06ad3e2e90ca534b70fb340cb5.jpg

dougrz
09-24-2020, 05:35 AM
Good Shapiro article on how the race could be reshaped.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2020-referendum-democrats-trump-ben-shapiro

2020 now a referendum on vengeful Democrats, not controversial Trump


"These actions aren't merely violative of constitutional principles and the founding philosophy. They are dangerous. Imagine a 55-vote Democratic majority in a 104-seat body, cramming through a gun confiscation measure, greenlit by a 13-member court packed by Democrats. Will red states simply acquiesce to this overt seizure of power, to this absurd rewriting of the constitutional bargain? Why should they?

All of which means that the 2020 presidential race has now become a referendum on the Democrats, not President Donald Trump.

Democratic candidate Joe Biden's inherent campaign pledge was a return to stability, not a leap into revolution. But by threatening the institutional architecture, Biden's campaign has become just that.

Now Americans will be forced to choose between the vulgarity of Donald Trump -- a vulgarity and boorishness, however off-putting, that has not threatened constitutional rights -- and a vengeful Democratic Party threatening to remold the country from the top down."

Byron
09-24-2020, 06:27 AM
As if the hole they dug wasn't deep enough.

I said it after Trump got elected...that the Dem party needs a reformation. Well, they reformed alright, and now we're seeing it. They've been screaming "Get rid of this interloper" but now they've spun themselves into a frenzy.

Forget the riots and anti police stuff...the so called leaders trying to keep it at arms distance are calling for an outright takeover of the US government...they're doing quite the sloppy job of trying to hide it.

Sure, the pundits that call for stacking the courts and adding States in a brazen grab for power are "walked back" by their politicians, but the cat is out of the bag. I can't believe anyone can see them as becoming victorious when they're literally threatening to beat down half the country.

To me, this is a repeat of 1972...but that one had the primary problem of the war, whereas this one is class envy and "social status" as they see it. The people that can't keep up are all bent out of shape and their representatives are a dysfunctional mess.

Crazy stuff. Obama left nothing in his wake...only Hillary and her crew standing there and when they went down there was nothing left.

dougrz
09-24-2020, 08:20 AM
Sure, the pundits that call for stacking the courts and adding States in a brazen grab for power are "walked back" by their politicians, but the cat is out of the bag. I can't believe anyone can see them as becoming victorious when they're literally threatening to beat down half the country.

This radicalnees is what I feared wasn't known widely enough. Hence my alarm bell ringing all these months. We on this board are insightful and tuned in. The vast, vast majority are not.

Is it too late? Are there too many 3rd world immigrants now? Have too many of us died off? Is the media and social media censorship and propaganda powerful enough?

Given a 1972 population, we win hands down. Even 1992. Or even 2008. But now?

We'll see.

oldno7
09-24-2020, 09:11 AM
This is so true---crazy but true

https://i.imgur.com/eNrj1Il.jpg

Iceaxe
09-24-2020, 09:11 AM
I was listening to several political experts discussing what would be actually involved in stacking the courts and/or adding states.... and it's not that simple, even if you control all three branches of government. First big problem is many Democratic Representatives and Senator's are not willing to make that huge leap. After that there are lots of hurdles to jump and needles to thread.... and even if they manage all of that the Supreme Court can strike down any law they pass, which is a big reason this next nomination is so important.

Last time the country was this divided the only way to add states was to add a free state and a slave state to balance the power. Not to mention the fact that Puerto Rico, the most likely 51st state, has no desire to become a state. Puerto Rico has held five votes on becoming a state and the referendum has lost all five times. 61% of Puerto Rico wants to remain a Commonwealth.

oldno7
09-24-2020, 09:57 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/zDyg3S53/Trump-Demoncrap-Power.jpg

dougrz
09-24-2020, 10:54 AM
I think those political expert opinions are naive. We're facing a hardened, determined left. Looking at Dems who might oppose such moves can be counted on one hand. Like Manchin.

But they won't do those things first anyway. They'll consolidate power. Amnesty. Which by chain migration alone brings in another 20 to 60 million in the next 5 years. There's a reason we haven't heard a single peep from the Dems on this issue. Which normally they'd run on. It's because it's their absolute top priority and needs to be undiscussed.

Once the absolute hammerlock of D voting becomes set, then these other moves take place.

Can't understate the dire consequences of a Dem sweep.

Iceaxe
09-24-2020, 01:35 PM
^^^Yeah.... but I think you're bat shit crazy... so there is that.

LMAO....

Byron
09-24-2020, 03:01 PM
Doug's problem is that he see liberals everywhere he looks.

I see lots of them, too...but I'm not concerned about it. They're here, they're there, they're everywhere and they're never going away. So what?

For me, it's all about what is placed on the table.

Iceaxe
09-24-2020, 07:30 PM
My cousin just sent this to me... This is why Trump is going to destroy Biden, and in the process a lot of republicans are going to slide into office on his coattails...

Just a little FYI... I live in Northern Nevada. Our governor refused to allow President Tump to have a venue in Reno. So our little county invited him. Douglas County, Nevada was put on the map. He landed in Reno on Air Force One then had an additional 50 minute drive. Cars lined the Highway He arrived at our little airport a bit past 7 in The Beast to a crowd of 28-38,000. Our county has a population of 49,000. People started showing up at 1 pm. A local rancher opened up his pastures for parking and busses were there to take people to the venue. I’m still in awe over it. Nothing is reported on the news media. Even our little biweekly newspaper, The Record Courier is bias. Temps were taken at the gate. Lots of hand sanitizer stations. But the temp takers are pretty accurate in their count. People came from CA, Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Utah. At the end of the evening, the crowd started walking the 2+ miles to their vehicles in cow pasture parking. A deputy reported that the crowd sang ‘America, the Beautiful’ the whole way. So energized. Did I mention that our venue was put together in less than 48 hours? We are an agricultural community. Magic.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200925/6c07c56fbf5808e7bf22aef1608fa18d.jpg

Byron
09-24-2020, 08:14 PM
Before it got dark I walked up to the grocery store and on the street next to the parking lot was a huge, beat up RV...like a big Winnebago. There were two gnarled out, homeless looking black dudes standing outside it...one older, one younger and three kids. They looked definitely poor and one of them was holding a cardboard sign...I figured they were panhandling...which is a common sight these days, eh?

Anyway, as I got closer I noticed another cardboard sign in the windshield on the drivers side...it said "Trump Caps". I though "What does that mean? Like they want to pop a cap in his ass? Is it a new word for an insult?"

And then I noticed a pile of ball caps on the passenger side dash. Red, white and blue with TRUMP on them. They were selling Trump ball caps for ten bucks a piece.

A very obese woman driving a ratty sedan stopped before exiting the lot and bought a red one! The guys were saying "Thank you, ma'am, thank you! TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP!"

I couldn't believe my eyes. I went into the store and on the way out I was going to buy a cap and take their picture, but they were gone. Who knows what the friggin' story is with these guys, but it was something you don't see everyday, that's for sure.

dougrz
09-24-2020, 10:25 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200925/6c07c56fbf5808e7bf22aef1608fa18d.jpg

Wait, I'm guano crazy and you post this meme? This is exactly what I'm saying. De-struc-tion if Dems sweep. No recovery.

It boils down to penalty factor. Massive pf, hence massive alarm to me. This isn't 92 Clinton risk.

oldno7
09-25-2020, 06:12 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiuLvYwXcAEh-m2?format=jpg&name=small

oldno7
09-25-2020, 08:43 AM
We've all seen it coming.
The path is being cleared for--no sho joe.



'Why bother?' Pelosi repeats Biden should skip debates
"I just think that the president has no fidelity to fact or truth and actually in his comments the last few days," Pelosi said on Morning on CBS. "No fidelity to the Constitution of the United States. He and his henchmen are a danger — with their comments — are a danger to our democracy."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-bother-pelosi-repeats-biden-should-skip-debates/ar-BB19qe5q?li=BBnb7Kz

oldno7
09-25-2020, 08:52 AM
Florida AG Refers Michael Bloomberg to FBI for Criminal InvestigationFlorida Attorney General Ashley Moody reportedly sent a letter to the FBI and Florida Department of Law Enforcement requesting a criminal investigation into a recent report that failed Democrat presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg, a billionaire, has raised more than $16 million to help convicted felons pay off their debts in an attempt to boost Democrat presidential nominee Joe Biden in the state.

https://www.con-alerts.com/florida-ag-refers-michael-bloomberg-to-fbi-for-criminal-investigation/

oldno7
09-25-2020, 08:58 AM
https://i.imgur.com/bdzfsFN.jpg

oldno7
09-25-2020, 09:00 AM
https://i.imgur.com/Gm63u7I.jpg

oldno7
09-25-2020, 09:02 AM
https://i.imgur.com/weRahrL.jpg

oldno7
09-25-2020, 09:04 AM
https://i.imgur.com/5ukaPID.jpg

oldno7
09-25-2020, 09:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/zJuZQZN.jpg

oldno7
09-25-2020, 09:08 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/0QLqn1FT/120042270-2734550836804930-8491005505294037567-n.jpg