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Iceaxe

12-28-2017, 03:39 PM

All my employees received one full months wage for their Christmas bonus. It's been a couple years since we have been able to be so generous.

I guess I should mention to them that Trump is partially responsible for the bonus as a couple of them were big Hillary supporters.

So I told my employee's today that they all had to send Trump a card thanking him for their Christmas bonus this year and for next years tax cut on S-Corps. The liberal's in the office looked like I had just shot their dog and defiled their sister.

Some days it's good to be the king. :lol8:

rockgremlin

12-28-2017, 03:49 PM

Was unaware you employed liberals. This surprises me.

Perhaps even more shocking is the fact that there are liberals willing to work for you.

Iceaxe

12-28-2017, 05:43 PM

Was unaware you employed liberals. This surprises me.

Perhaps even more shocking is the fact that there are liberals willing to work for you.
Money makes for strange bedfellows.

Iceaxe

12-31-2017, 05:31 AM

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oldno7

12-31-2017, 04:23 PM

Testing for 2018

oldno7

01-01-2018, 06:57 AM

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oldno7

01-01-2018, 06:58 AM

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oldno7

01-01-2018, 07:26 AM

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Iceaxe

01-01-2018, 07:32 AM

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Sombeech

01-01-2018, 06:27 PM

This thread delivers the LOLs

Matthew_R

01-02-2018, 07:53 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz0hRo-dkcI

Iceaxe

01-02-2018, 08:16 AM

^^^I laughed....

Sombeech

01-02-2018, 08:52 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz0hRo-dkcI

OMG :lol8:

twotimer

01-02-2018, 01:30 PM

Hopefully it won't be too much longer here and the gov. in Iran will hit the skids. If N.K. follows hot on it's heels then maybe Trump will end up getting a nice, easy plate of foreign policy served up.

Would'nt that be something? The two gnarliest regimes in the world caving in on themselves.

IDK...I'm pretty encouraged. I think we're in pretty good shape 25 years after the collapse of the old world order when all these nations were left to fend for themselves...only two of them stayed completely off the rails and both are in poor shape. The world may indeed be a better place in the years to come.

Iceaxe

01-02-2018, 06:46 PM

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

I will be announcing THE MOST DISHONEST & CORRUPT MEDIA AWARDS OF THE YEAR on Monday at 5:00 o’clock. Subjects will cover Dishonesty & Bad Reporting in various categories from the Fake News Media. Stay tuned!

This will be must see TV.

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Iceaxe

01-02-2018, 08:19 PM

Getting shit done...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180103/a3a62ea783e82f45818c5fb0bda787a6.jpg

accadacca

01-02-2018, 08:52 PM

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Iceaxe

01-02-2018, 10:23 PM

About frickin' time....

Trump tells the Palestinians to show up for peace talks or the US is cutting off their millions in aid.

It's nice to again finally have a President with big brass balls. Regan is the last president we had with a set.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/02/trump-mulls-cutting-off-aid-to-palestinians-says-theyre-no-longer-willing-to-talk-peace.html

Iceaxe

01-03-2018, 07:47 PM

Finally a can't miss awards show....
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180104/d24ca7635d73b39511f6b666f90c3e46.jpg

Iceaxe

01-05-2018, 08:04 AM

Brian in SLC

01-05-2018, 12:13 PM

2.1 million jobs added in 2017. Unemployment rate drops to 4.7%. Average hourly wage rose 2.5%. Unemployment rate for African Americans hits an all time record low of 6.8%. The DJIA sets a record high 71 times. That's a pretty good year anyway you want to slice it.

Trump promised to be the greatest jobs president ever and so far he is on track.

And all the while Democrats run around screaming the sky is falling.

#MAGA

Nah, he's not on track, he's still lagging behind Barry. Jobs added per month have gone down. Percent increase in the stock market hasn't exceeded Barry.

Remember when BHO took over from Bush and what the stock market and jobs outlook was like? Was in the dumpster.

Trump took over a healthy economy from a president who had more influence over it. He's still riding that wave that he didn't create. But now all those fake job reports numbers are real (ha ha) and he has a bigger button on his desk. The lemmings love this guy.

As soon as the campaign team had stepped into the White House, Walsh saw, it had gone from managing Trump to the expectation of being managed by him. Yet the president, while proposing the most radical departure from governing and policy norms in several generations, had few specific ideas about how to turn his themes and vitriol into policy. And making suggestions to him was deeply complicated. Here, arguably, was the central issue of the Trump presidency, informing every aspect of Trumpian policy and leadership: He didn’t process information in any conventional sense. He didn’t read. He didn’t really even skim. Some believed that for all practical purposes he was no more than semi-*literate. He trusted his own expertise *— no matter how paltry or irrelevant — more than anyone else’s. He was often confident, but he was just as often paralyzed, less a savant than a figure of sputtering and dangerous insecurities, whose instinctive response was to lash out and behave as if his gut, however confused, was in fact in some clear and forceful way telling him what to do. It was, said Walsh, “like trying to figure out what a child wants.”

Iceaxe

01-05-2018, 12:50 PM

Nah, he's not on track, he's still lagging behind Barry. Jobs added per month have gone down. Percent increase in the stock market hasn't exceeded Barry.

Remember when BHO took over from Bush and what the stock market and jobs outlook was like? Was in the dumpster.

Trump took over a healthy economy from a president who had more influence over it. He's still riding that wave that he didn't create. But now all those fake job reports numbers are real (ha ha) and he has a bigger button on his desk. The lemmings love this guy.

As soon as the campaign team had stepped into the White House, Walsh saw, it had gone from managing Trump to the expectation of being managed by him. Yet the president, while proposing the most radical departure from governing and policy norms in several generations, had few specific ideas about how to turn his themes and vitriol into policy. And making suggestions to him was deeply complicated. Here, arguably, was the central issue of the Trump presidency, informing every aspect of Trumpian policy and leadership: He didn’t process information in any conventional sense. He didn’t read. He didn’t really even skim. Some believed that for all practical purposes he was no more than semi-*literate. He trusted his own expertise *— no matter how paltry or irrelevant — more than anyone else’s. He was often confident, but he was just as often paralyzed, less a savant than a figure of sputtering and dangerous insecurities, whose instinctive response was to lash out and behave as if his gut, however confused, was in fact in some clear and forceful way telling him what to do. It was, said Walsh, “like trying to figure out what a child wants.”
Typical liberal.... "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".

I will agree that Obama inherited a dumpster fire, but standing on the balcony pissing on it was not a great solution. Obama was the first president to never hit 3% growth. Obama never understood what it took to get business booming.

The basic question voters ask themselves when going to the polls is "am I better off today then 4 years ago". I know very few people that can't answer yes if that question were asked today.

Brian in SLC

01-05-2018, 01:01 PM

Typical liberal.... "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".

I will agree that Obama inherited a dumpster fire, but standing on the balcony pissing on it was not a great solution. Obama was the first president to never hit 3% growth. Obama never understood what it took to get business booming.

The basic question voters ask themselves when going to the polls is "am I better off today then 4 years ago". I know very few people that can't answer yes if that question were asked today.

Barry did a hell of a lot more than piss on the fire. And, business was booming, despite your short term memory.

What remains to be seen, is, the downstream effect of Trump's undoing of all that "stuff".

We'll see in a few years, but, you're right...basic question...better off now? Hard to argue with happiness.

"Biden also suggested that Trump is unable to understand what he's dealing with — "this is not a business deal," he said, referring to Trump's past in real estate. "This is not who builds the next skyscraper." He wouldn't comment on whether he thinks Trump is fit for office, but did say Trump's approach to the presidency "erodes those invisible elements of citizenship that sort of are the buoyancy for what makes this nation so special. It's less his policies than the way he conducts [himself], how unpresidential he is.""

Scott P

01-05-2018, 01:06 PM

Brian in SLC

01-05-2018, 01:46 PM

All good news, but it seems that the average hourly wage should have gone up more than 2.5% though. This seems low considering the economic boom.

And, really, no different than wage increase under Barry:

https://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/508600239/what-kind-of-jobs-president-has-obama-been-in-8-charts

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-jobs-report-labor-market-participation-rate-2017-1/#since-obama-took-office-in-january-2009-the-us-economy-has-added-11250000-people-to-total-nonfarm-payrolls-1

Iceaxe

01-05-2018, 03:16 PM

twotimer

01-05-2018, 04:08 PM

Rob L

01-05-2018, 04:19 PM

2.1 million jobs added in 2017. ....

Since the US population is in the region of 320 million (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=US+population&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=ghNQWt-rB_Pv8Afk3bHoCQ) then I'd suggest that natural deaths, births, retirements, occasional & regional variations, a few hurricanes & tornadoes and natural expansion of population and a lot of kids getting to employable age has much to do about that increase, rather than any one particular President having a direct influence during his term.

Unless 18 years ago he impregnated every eligible person in his home state.

Iceaxe

01-05-2018, 05:29 PM

I'm up over 100K in the last year and I didn't have to do a damn thing. MAGA?...you bet your ass.

I'm not voting for any stinking Democrats, period. I can't understand how anyone with retirement savings wouldn't be thinking the same thing...yet they still want to beat him down.

You and I seem to be in the same boat. I made more money last year then I made in the 4 previous years combined. If work and the economy continued at it's current pace I'll be set to retire comfortably at the end on Trumps first term. I have people literally standing at my door step offering me all the work we can handle. These are huge industrial projects costing ten's of millions that will each employ hundreds when brought on-line.

My employee's all received a nice raise last year (first time in 4 years) and they also received a year end bonus equal to one month's wage, which was at least twice the size of any bonus received the previous 4 years. My employees have also had unlimited access to any overtime they wanted, again that's the first time in 8 years (and my guys are always begging for overtime when I have none).

And yet I have one Brian type employee that prays at the temple of Obama and insists Trump is the devil in reincarnated,

So I ask people like Brian, "how do you justify your position", I honestly want to know?

Iceaxe

01-05-2018, 08:36 PM

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Iceaxe

01-06-2018, 06:55 AM

Liberal Mainstream media will never give Trump credit... but well done sir.

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oldno7

01-06-2018, 11:08 AM

More-MAGA

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/06/trump-backs-sen-pauls-plan-to-fund-infrastructure-projects-with-suspended-aid-to-pakistan.html

Brian in SLC

01-06-2018, 11:33 AM

Brian... Let's come at this from a different direction. Do you honestly believe Obama will go down in history as a good president?

And we're not comparing him to Trump as it's impossible to rate a president after the first year of a 4 or 8 year run.

Personally I believe history will eventually place Obama somewhere below the 50% line. Somewhere down in the Jimmy Carter and Bush 2 realm. Obama has no major accomplishments that will last. He did change the direction of healthcare, but his signature accomplishment (Affordable Care Act) has pretty much been torpedoed. He left the middle East a shit storm (Bush 2 helped). Race relations went backwards 20 years under Obama. I do give him credit for doing a descent job of pulling us out of the Bush 2 economic dumpster fire. He certainly didn't make it worse, but his numerous regulations didn't help.

Anyhoo... enquiring minds want to know.

Yeah, I think Obama will go down in history as a "good" president. Not even counting how low the bar is right now (ha ha). On an aside, did you see Barry's summer reading and music list? Wow. Nice retirement. I can't believe he likes band the National...

What was interesting and a bit eye opening to me (as one who "drank the koolaid), was the couple of PBS Frontline shows on the Obama presidency. Plenty to be critical of. And, some things I hadn't considered. So, fake news liberal media PBS aside, seemed to be a fair reporting on "things".

Its not always fluffy bunnies when you move the country in a good direction. But, that he did. We took a fair step forward. Now? Seems like we're going backward.

Brian in SLC

01-06-2018, 11:37 AM

Liberal Mainstream media will never give Trump credit... but well done sir.

#MAGA
Here’s your crack, on-the-job commander in chief and hisfocus:
Michael Wolff is atotal loser who made up stories in order to sell this really boring anduntruthful book. He used Sloppy Steve Bannon, who cried when he got fired andbegged for his job. Now Sloppy Steve has been dumped like a dog by almosteveryone. Too bad!
I’m sure tweets like the above continue to help him beconsidered in high regard not only in the US, but, around the world. Ugh.
Let’s take your Obama chart point by point:
Labor participation rate? Makes sense that it’s low (baby boomer bubble aging out of the workforce),but, what does that mean?
https://qz.com/286213/the-chart-obama-haters-love-most-and-the-truth-behind-it/ (https://qz.com/286213/the-chart-obama-haters-love-most-and-the-truth-behind-it/)
Apples to apples, what does Trump’s first term look like forlabor participation rate? It slid from62.9 to 62.7. So, getting worse? Trump’s fault? I wouldn’t think so. Just like it wasn’t Obama’s fault either.
95 million out of thelabor force? I think it’s called “retirement”.
Here’s the breakdown of that 95 million:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/03/news/economy/trump-95-million-people-not-in-the-labor-force/index.html (http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/03/news/economy/trump-95-million-people-not-in-the-labor-force/index.html)
Again, if you want to hang your hat on that number, then,end of December 2016, 95.006 million out of the workforce. December 2017: 95.512. Blame Trump for more people out of the work force? Well, we could, but, we know he just didn’thave that much influence on it. Exceptmaybe those 600+ folks at Carrier who’s jobs got outsourced to Mexico. You know, in the “Art of the Deal”.
Worst recovery sincethe 1940’s? Yeah, right. Seems like I hear folks crowing about doingsoooo poorly that they’ll retire at the end of Trump’s term. Maybe the longest recovery. And, I think, slow and steady wins therace. Also, depends on what you measure. I hear some folks are turning away work….how’sthat the worst recovery?
Lowest home ownershipin 50 years? Geez, when did thebubble pop? End of 2016 was 63.9%. Last measured at 63.9%? So, no big uptick during Trump’s first year. Looking at the trends…hit a high of 69.2% in2004. I think that’s the all time high. Slid from the bubble pop at 67%-ish to present. What’s also slid? Older folks. The 65 years and older crowd. Less of them as a percentage live in an owner occupied home. Hmmm.
Interesting spin on why the lower rate is a good thing:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-the-decline-of-the-homeownership-rate-is-good-news/2016/08/03/c6b8bf7c-58d1-11e6-9767-f6c947fd0cb8_story.html?utm_term=.535702e45dd2 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-the-decline-of-the-homeownership-rate-is-good-news/2016/08/03/c6b8bf7c-58d1-11e6-9767-f6c947fd0cb8_story.html?utm_term=.535702e45dd2)
One trend that seems great is home equity is on therise. Those of us in Sandy Utah that gothit with a big (over 25% for me) increase to our property taxes feel this “growth”. Ha ha. Nice that so many folks aren’t so under water. I give some credit to Barry’s admin for someof the regulations in place following the bubble burst. As some of those protections are scrapped,will the bubble return? Too soon totell. Glad I bought a house a few yearsback (thanks Obama!).
Food stamps…blameTrump for the huge spike in September 2017? Hardly. SNAP benefits have beenon the decline since 2013. Greattrend. Be interesting to see if thecurrent administration cuts SNAP benefits. Trump is a huge opponent of SNAP.
Poverty Rate. Has fallen from 2014. From the census folks, here’s the deets:
§ The official poverty rate in 2016 was 12.7percent, down 0.8 percentage points from 13.5 percent in 2015. This isthe second consecutive annual decline in poverty. Since 2014, the poverty ratehas fallen 2.1 percentage points from 14.8 percent to 12.7 percent.
§ In 2016 there were 40.6 million people inpoverty, 2.5 million fewer than in 2015 and 6.0 million fewer than in 2014.
§ The poverty rate in 2016 (12.7 percent) wasnot significantly higher than the poverty rate in 2007 (12.5 percent), the yearbefore the most recent recession.
§ No demographic group included in Table 3experienced an increase in its poverty rate between 2015 and 2016.
§ For most demographic groups, the number ofpeople in poverty decreased from 2015. Adults aged 65 and older were the onlypopulation group shown in Table 3 to experience an increase in the number ofpeople in poverty.
§ Between 2015 and 2016,the poverty rate for children under age 18 declined from 19.7 to 18.0 percent.The poverty rate for adults aged 18-64 declined from 12.4 to 11.6 percent. Thepoverty rate for adults aged 65 and older was 9.3 percent in 2016, notstatistically different from the rate in 2015.
So, what will the poverty rate do under Trump? I bet it pops up. And, because of his admin and not in spite ofit. Removing the ACA mandate. Killing grants for signing people up forinsurance. We’ll see when the numberscome in, but, my bet in 2017 and forward, the poverty rate in the US willincrease.

Has it really been a year? Good grief...time flies when you're having fun...

Sombeech

01-06-2018, 12:17 PM

More-MAGA

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/06/trump-backs-sen-pauls-plan-to-fund-infrastructure-projects-with-suspended-aid-to-pakistan.html

It's like he's actually doing what's good for our country.

oldno7

01-06-2018, 12:24 PM

It's like he's actually doing what's good for our country.

And liberals hate that.....

Iceaxe

01-06-2018, 01:20 PM

Its not always fluffy bunnies when you move the country in a good direction. But, that he did. We took a fair step forward. Now? Seems like we're going backward.

It's easy now for me to see we shall never agree on this as in my book Obama took the country in the wrong direction and really set us back. The guy was everything I despise in a leader. He was weak, soft and lead from behind. So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Thanks for playing.

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oldno7

01-06-2018, 01:21 PM

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Scott P

01-08-2018, 09:25 PM

More-MAGA

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/01/06/trump-backs-sen-pauls-plan-to-fund-infrastructure-projects-with-suspended-aid-to-pakistan.html

This is one area where I will agree with Trump. I have always been against supporting and arming Pakistan (or at least since forming an opinion on the matter a few decades ago).

When the Taliban harbored Bin Laden after the 9/11 attacks, only two countries still recognized that Taliban as the rightful rulers of Afghanistan. Those two countries were Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

Even so, it was Bush who vastly increased aid to Pakistan after 9/11. The aid dropped way down after Obama was elected and stayed lower until 2009 when it was increased again (peaking in 2011), but then decreased greatly in 2014 and 2016. Pakistan has still never denounced the Taliban. They still maintain a relationship with the Taliban while accepting US aid.

accadacca

01-10-2018, 05:28 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6N7veEooWM

BruteForce

01-11-2018, 04:21 AM

It's easy now for me to see we shall never agree on this as in my book Obama took the country in the wrong direction and really set us back. The guy was everything I despise in a leader. He was weak, soft and lead from behind. So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Thanks for playing.

[emoji631]

Concur on all points. Obama was weak on all aspects of leadership.

Iceaxe

01-12-2018, 08:35 PM

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Brian in SLC

01-13-2018, 08:06 PM

So...much...winning...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/carrier-plant-layoffs-worker-thought-trump-would-save-her-job-n836261

Iceaxe

01-14-2018, 04:51 AM

So...much...winning...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/carrier-plant-layoffs-worker-thought-trump-would-save-her-job-n836261LMAO.... The loss of 214 jobs at Carrier is the best you can do? We need to get you a job at CNN.

1.7 million jobs have been added under Trump. That's 208,000 a month. It's been over 20 years since we've seems numbers that good.

Scoreboard: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-scoreboard-shows-17-million-new-jobs-created-during-presidency-2017-12-08

Feel free to stop by again when you have something that amounts to more than whining like a little bitch.

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Brian in SLC

01-14-2018, 08:06 PM

Brian in SLC

01-14-2018, 08:18 PM

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Iceaxe

01-14-2018, 09:12 PM

Hot young stripper wife? Dude...you need to bump up your game...

http://video.foxnews.com/v/5710917224001/?#sp=show-clips

"The Porn President"...the hits just keep on coming. Here's some more drivel from another one of them lib-tard rags:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455428/donald-trump-porn-star-payoff-why
A liberal that is now concerned with what consenting adults do behind closed doors?!?

You make me laugh... where was the outrage when slick Willy was shoving his cigars up the young lady's snatch?

Try again, come back when you actually have something that affects me. In the mean time I'll be trying to figure out how to get all the work walking through my front door done. While also watching my IRA and stock portfolio skyrocket.

Let's talk about the $6 trillion dollars in wealth created under Trump, now that's something that actually affects me. Do you have any clue how many hookers and how much blow $6 trillion dollars buys?

oldno7

01-15-2018, 07:14 AM

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oldno7

01-15-2018, 07:14 AM

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oldno7

01-15-2018, 07:16 AM

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Iceaxe

01-15-2018, 08:33 AM

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Brian in SLC

01-15-2018, 05:51 PM

Happy MLK day!

Trump later decried the removal of “beautiful” Confederate memorials (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/17/trump-mourns-loss-of-beautiful-statues-and-monuments-in-wake-of-charlottesville-rally-over-robert-e-lee-statue/?utm_term=.962de42a6e82) to the Civil War.
“They're trying to take away our history,” Trump said at a rally in Phoenix (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/08/23/as-trump-ranted-and-rambled-in-phoenix-his-crowd-slowly-thinned/?utm_term=.4815ee78a534) in August.

The president's criticism of kneeling NFL players (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/01/12/every-time-donald-trump-has-fought-with-athletes/?utm_term=.0ef70eefeada) also struck many critics as thinly veiled racism. Most of the players who took a knee rather than standing during the playing of the national anthem this season were black. The gesture was meant as a protest against inequality and police brutality.
Trump said it was an affront to patriotism and that players had many other ways to protest.
NFL owners should respond to the players by saying, “Get that son of a b‑‑‑‑ off the field right now. Out. He's fired. He's fired!” Trump said in September (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/09/23/i-love-alabama-its-special-at-rally-for-sen-luther-strange-trump-vents-frustrations-in-rambling-speech/?utm_term=.f4e175950720).

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Iceaxe

01-15-2018, 06:49 PM

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Brian in SLC

01-15-2018, 09:24 PM

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oldno7

01-16-2018, 06:25 AM

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oldno7

01-17-2018, 02:21 PM

Trump's fault again:

Apple says the new tax law will help it will contribute $350 billion to the U.S. economy over the next five years.
It says it will create 20,000 new jobs and open a new campus.
Apple expects to pay about $38 billion in taxes for the horde of cash it plans to bring back to the United States.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/17/apple-announces-350-billion-investment-20k-jobs-over-5-years.html

Brian in SLC

01-17-2018, 02:26 PM

Fake news...(the "real" fake news...ha ha). But, funny...

https://politics.theonion.com/new-report-finds-adult-film-star-may-have-paid-over-13-1822124133

oldno7

01-17-2018, 02:58 PM

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oldno7

01-17-2018, 03:15 PM

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oldno7

01-17-2018, 03:17 PM

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Iceaxe

01-18-2018, 02:11 PM

Finally proof that Trump is racist. Where is the minority presence in these awards, nothing but a bunch of white guys.

Trumps Fake News Awards
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/17/president-trump-reveals-winners-his-fake-news-awards.html

These awards were brilliant in that mainstream news was forced to cover and report their mistakes and screw ups.

Sombeech

01-18-2018, 02:23 PM

Fake News Awards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvqTf0pUQps

oldno7

01-18-2018, 03:00 PM

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oldno7

01-18-2018, 03:02 PM

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accadacca

01-18-2018, 04:25 PM

Cool Trump Gun

https://instagram.com/p/BeGnStfB8Og/

Iceaxe

01-19-2018, 05:38 AM

I listened to the news conference where the doctor reported Trump was in good health and it was comical. Many of the mainstream news outlets just continue to dig their own grave.

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Sombeech

01-19-2018, 09:11 AM

They just can't win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Y7y1vNlIE

Sombeech

01-19-2018, 09:17 AM

Some people just ask the Liberals to accept Trump as their president already, just live with it.

But then some of us want them to keep going crazy because it's pure entertainment.

Like Newsweek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRrFRoGfXlQ

rockgremlin

01-19-2018, 01:04 PM

They just can't win

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5Y7y1vNlIE

OMG - That's pathetic. Talk about a desperate grasp at straws!!

Seriously, what is going on here? Are they honestly that delusional? Or just stupid?

Iceaxe

01-20-2018, 05:16 AM

And in other news... Trump is appointing Federal judges at a rapid rate. This is seldom talked about and is one area that Trump has been tremendously successful. This is also the area that will set the course of our nation for decades to come.

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-trump-federal-judiciary/

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180120/e6ddc3698296f9fea610846e18c33e66.jpg

oldno7

01-20-2018, 06:10 AM

,.,.

Iceaxe

01-20-2018, 10:50 AM

If this branding sticks the Democrats are going to take a torpedo broadside similar to the one the NFL took over the National Anthem fiasco.

I'm probably bias, but it appears to me the Democrats are walking the highwire without a net.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180120/3adcd7c236abe08b90ead2558b265a7f.jpg

Brian in SLC

01-20-2018, 12:30 PM

88700

Brian in SLC

01-20-2018, 01:03 PM

Iceaxe

01-20-2018, 01:18 PM

Blame enough to go around...

The evolution of this meeting was...interesting. Watch or read the transcript. Ugly bit of sausage making here:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?439527-1/president-trump-open-tackling-daca-fix-first-border-wall

They obviously didn't get it done...
I actually watched that meeting live and my first thought was they should put all the immigration players in a room, lock the door and broadcast the meeting live. No one comes out until we have a long term fix for this problem. The reason for broadcasting live is no one gets to be an ass without everyone knowing who the ass is, who is grandstanding, who has the public's true interest at heart and who is just playing politics.

Brian in SLC

01-20-2018, 01:38 PM

I actually watched that meeting live and my first thought was they should put all the immigration players in a room, lock the door and broadcast the meeting live. No one comes out until we have a long term fix for this problem. The reason for broadcasting live is no one gets to be an ass without everyone knowing who the ass is, who is grandstanding, who has the public's true interest at heart and who is just playing politics.

Absolutely.

What was interesting in the above referenced meeting was that Trump several times referenced to getting DACA done now and working on immigration later. And then getting reeled back in.

Single item bills. That would kill some of the "bridge to no where" riders. Let that fluff pass or fail on its own merits, not to woo a certain congressional person.

Most of the congressional bill debate stuff is pretty public...

https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/2018/1/19/daily-digest

oldno7

01-20-2018, 02:25 PM

More MAGA
More jobs
Improving Detroit

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/01/production-of-the-ram-heavy-duty-is-returning-to-the-united-states.html

Brian in SLC

01-20-2018, 04:29 PM

Yeah, more winning for Carrier!

http://fortune.com/2018/01/11/indianapolis-carrier-plant-layoffs-continue/

Brian in SLC

01-20-2018, 04:32 PM

Puerto Rico (you know, its "an island, surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water.") still winning too!

https://www.tcpalm.com/story/opinion/editorials/2018/01/02/trump-administration-has-failed-puerto-rico-another-view/995382001/

accadacca

01-21-2018, 08:49 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&noapp=1&v=XYviM5xevC8

Brian in SLC

01-21-2018, 10:02 AM

^^^OMG...that's hilarious!

Scott P

01-22-2018, 04:54 PM

This is one area where I will agree with Trump. I have always been against supporting and arming Pakistan (or at least since forming an opinion on the matter a few decades ago).

When the Taliban harbored Bin Laden after the 9/11 attacks, only two countries still recognized that Taliban as the rightful rulers of Afghanistan. Those two countries were Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

Even so, it was Bush who vastly increased aid to Pakistan after 9/11. The aid dropped way down after Obama was elected and stayed lower until 2009 when it was increased again (peaking in 2011), but then decreased greatly in 2014 and 2016. Pakistan has still never denounced the Taliban. They still maintain a relationship with the Taliban while accepting US aid.

Case in point. This is BS:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/doctor-aided-hunt-bin-laden-languishes-forgotten-060736097.html

I do hope that Trump really does something about this and the aid to Pakistan.

Iceaxe

01-22-2018, 06:26 PM

US to move Isreali embassy to Jerusalem before end of 2019.

#PromiseKept

Brian in SLC

01-22-2018, 09:26 PM

US to move Isreali embassy to Jerusalem before end of 2019.

#PromiseKept

Hasn't happened yet...

#Don'tcountyourchickens

Iceaxe

01-23-2018, 03:22 AM

Hasn't happened yet...

#Don'tcountyourchickens
Want to bet on it?

oldno7

01-23-2018, 08:09 AM

.,.,

oldno7

01-23-2018, 08:12 AM

Boy if this isn't the truth.
Prior to Trump, the gop rolled over on everything.
He is definetely teaching them how to fight.
Whether they grasp it, well, thats another meme

Brian in SLC

01-23-2018, 09:04 AM

Want to bet on it?

Hmmm. Maybe.

Interesting that Netanyahu has said it'll happen this year. Pence says by end of 2019.

Should Netanyahu not make it to the end of his term...that could effect the new location.

Its interesting...considering the Trump "brand" in the Middle East. Had he completed his deals in Saudi...he might be more influenced that direction. His deal in Tel Aviv fell through too.

Mixed bag. The move could be brokered away too.

I guess I'm 51% that it won't be operational in 2019.

Brian in SLC

01-23-2018, 09:40 AM

.,.,

From the US bureau of labor stats:

Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 148,000 in December. Job gains occurred in health
care, construction, and manufacturing. In 2017, payroll employment growth totaled 2.1
million, compared with a gain of 2.2 million in 2016. (See table B-1.)

In December, manufacturing employment rose by 25,000, largely reflecting a gain in
durable goods industries (+21,000). Manufacturing added 196,000 jobs in 2017, following
little net change in 2016 (-16,000).

Some additional data:

https://www.bls.gov/iag/tgs/iag31-33.htm#workforce

With unemployment so low (basically unchanged between 2016 and 2017), its hard to add any types of jobs.

I don't think Barry ever said the US is economy is "rotten"...I think instead he's taking credit for it being strong and contributing to the numbers under Trump.

Trade deficit...hmm...

Some interesting charts from the BBC:

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-42748243

oldno7

01-24-2018, 12:46 PM

..,,

oldno7

01-24-2018, 12:46 PM

,,,..

oldno7

01-24-2018, 12:47 PM

....,

oldno7

01-24-2018, 12:48 PM

,,,,..

oldno7

01-24-2018, 12:55 PM

,.,.,

oldno7

01-24-2018, 12:57 PM

here for dirk when he comes in

oldno7

01-25-2018, 07:05 AM

,,..

oldno7

01-26-2018, 06:41 AM

.,.,.

oldno7

01-26-2018, 09:17 AM

Much more MAGA
Watch, unless your a liberal.

European CEOs Go One By One To Tell Trump They Are Investing Billions Back In The US

http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/25/european-ceos-trump/

oldno7

01-26-2018, 09:24 AM

And not a single democrat voted for tax reform!!!!!

Let that sink in as your wealth skyrockets...

These compaies are investing here, by and large due to tax reform that was passed by Republicans and Trump.

Iceaxe

01-26-2018, 11:16 AM

...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/170025b5b5eb8636913e44abb094fc42.jpg

rockgremlin

01-26-2018, 06:01 PM

...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180126/170025b5b5eb8636913e44abb094fc42.jpg

Oh brother. :roll:

So the implication is that an influx of Mexicans will turn the lower 48 states into a 'shithole?'

Now you're just trolling...

Iceaxe

01-26-2018, 06:40 PM

Oh brother. :roll:

So the implication is that an influx of Mexicans will turn the lower 48 states into a 'shithole?'

Now you're just trolling...Not a troll at all.... most Americans have no clue that they are actually among the richest people in the world.... Want to be in the top 10% of world's richest people? You only need $68,800. Want to be in the top 1% you need $760,000. You only need $3,200 to be above the world average in wealth.

Considering the median American family has an income of $81,000 and a net worth of $535,000 I'd say I'm pretty happy with my lot in life? At least I don't live in a shithole country.... YMMV

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-richest-people-in-the-world-20160121-story.html

Iceaxe

01-26-2018, 07:17 PM

...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180127/5d339731bbd9df576469eaef866450e0.jpg

oldno7

01-29-2018, 10:34 AM

Swamps draining....

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/29/politics/andrew-mccabe-fbi/index.html

oldno7

01-29-2018, 10:35 AM

Oh--and might add

oldno7

01-29-2018, 11:28 AM

,,,,

oldno7

01-29-2018, 11:29 AM

,,..

oldno7

01-30-2018, 03:34 AM

.,.,

oldno7

01-30-2018, 07:17 AM

,,,,.

Iceaxe

01-30-2018, 09:52 PM

After tonight's State of the Union address....
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/b0ef140fbaa4d188eea9909676c1cc8e.jpg

oldno7

01-31-2018, 05:17 AM

great speech, hilarious watching the dems, sit

oldno7

01-31-2018, 05:19 AM

,,..,,

oldno7

01-31-2018, 05:24 AM

Yep, that's my President, GREAT line.

DirkHammergate

01-31-2018, 05:29 AM

Mmmm.... I get why he chased Stormy Daniels around in tightie whities.. Googled some of her films, totally my type.

oldno7

01-31-2018, 05:29 AM

Wonder if there will be any new bands called, "The slobbering kennedy's"

Oh and the other dem response

Iceaxe

01-31-2018, 05:30 AM

Mmmm.... I get why he chased Stormy Daniels around in tightie whities.. Googled some of her films, totally my type.
I thought your type was breathing?

oldno7

01-31-2018, 05:34 AM

,.,.,

Iceaxe

01-31-2018, 05:36 AM

My plane landed near the end of Trumps speach so I didn't get to watch the Democrats melt down

So what was with the old wrecked car behind Little Kennedy? Seeing highlights on the news all I could think is displaying Uncle Ted's drunk murder mobile in the background was not a wise move.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/14db6e56fdb854300cb6175b2cd1a22e.jpg

oldno7

01-31-2018, 05:53 AM

well---at least the libs get a new hero.

I've never done twitter but I hear that #droolingkennedy is trending:slobber:

Iceaxe

01-31-2018, 06:04 AM

Independents are becoming a huge problem for Democrats as they are now warming to Trump. The Democrats will always hate Trump, but if Trump keeps his base and wins the Independents he has won the war.

And you just know every DACA kid in the country right now is screaming "take Trumps deal", as it is much better then anything ever offered by any president. It includes double the Obama numbers and offers citizenship, how can any DACA kid hate that?

I also like how Trump rebranded the term "Dreamers" to mean all Americans, we'll see how it sticks but Trump is the master of branding and I enjoy watching him work.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180131/248d615c0bd5c971c77b632a46b2892d.jpg

DirkHammergate

01-31-2018, 06:15 AM

I thought your type was breathing?

Point taken. I actually lived in Fall River. It is a rough town, loved it though.

Did you know the Braga Bridge is the longest bridge in the world?

oldno7

01-31-2018, 07:24 AM

This is what Trump made the dems own.
Will be lots of video for the midterms, I guarantee it.

Democrats love drug dealers.
Democrats love gang violence.
Democrats love terrorists.
Democrats love keeping poor black families poor.
Democrats love dead black children.
Democrats love wounded and dead servicemen.
Democrats love it when veterans can't get help.
Democrats love North Korea.
Democrats love giving our enemies lump sums of cash.
Democrats choose illegal aliens. Not even over Americans. Americans don't count and probably should be put into mass grave by their count.
Democrats don't like auto manufacturing.
Democrats hate vocational training.
Democrats hate paid family leave when a Republican likes it.
Democrats hate prison reform when a Republican likes it.
Democrats hate cheap medications when a Republican likes it.
Democrats hate freedom of speech, religion, and bearing arms.

oldno7

01-31-2018, 07:43 AM

Mmmm.... I get why he chased Stormy Daniels around in tightie whities.. Googled some of her films, totally my type.

The russians made her change her story---bots I tell ya...

oldno7

01-31-2018, 07:55 AM

And the MAGA continues

rockgremlin

01-31-2018, 08:48 AM

^^^Making China re-engineer their manufacturing to be on U.S. soil?

Is this really happening? :eek2: That's incredible. Is there a precedent for this? I can't think of any atm...

Scott P

01-31-2018, 08:58 AM

And the MAGA continues

Here's a serious question. If solar panels are going to have a tariff of 30%, why not foreign oil as well?

Brian in SLC

01-31-2018, 09:47 AM

The russians made her change her story---bots I tell ya...

I watched her on Kimmel last night. He compared signatures...

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/doesnt-look-like-signature-stormy-daniels-tells-jimmy-kimmel-didnt-write-denial-trump-affair/

While titillating (ahem), not much said on Kimmel either way.

Iceaxe

01-31-2018, 11:58 AM

Here's a serious question. If solar panels are going to have a tariff of 30%, why not foreign oil as well?

Simple answer.... slapping a 30% tariff on imported oil doesn't benefit the US. We can place a tariff on any imported item we wish, it's just a matter of does it actually benefit the US.

Fun story... I was working/racing for Yamaha when Harley Davidson was going bankrupt. The US posted a 30% tariff on all imported motorcycles over 700cc, this had two big effects I noticed. It allowed HD engineering time to catch up with the rest of the world. It also created the Bullitt Bike craze as the Japanese altered their production to create mass produced Cafe Racers, which became more popularly known as Bullitt Bikes. If you lived through the beginning of Bullitt Bikes you will remember they were all in the 500cc to 650cc range, that was to beat the tariff. The tariff was descended a couple years later when HD was no longer facing bankruptcy.

#MAGA

Iceaxe

01-31-2018, 04:10 PM

TV ratings for Trumps State of the Union Address more than double Grammy Awards.

47.7 million viewers for Trump.
19.8 million for music's biggest night.

Scoreboard!

ROFLMAO

accadacca

01-31-2018, 08:45 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180201/1f3b933ef7798b03790182a2f98d4e23.jpg

oldno7

02-05-2018, 10:50 AM

,.,.,.

oldno7

02-05-2018, 10:58 AM

,,,,....

oldno7

02-05-2018, 11:39 AM

The heavily redacted "Senate" memo is now public.

It shows hillary's associates feeding lies to steele, to put in the dossier.

It refers steele for criminal actions.

The dems are sinking, all they have is lies and cover up.

oldno7

02-05-2018, 11:44 AM

The Republicans are intentionally slow walking the evidence to allow the dems more rope and they are taking it all.

oldno7

02-06-2018, 04:48 AM

,,,...

oldno7

02-06-2018, 04:50 AM

,,..,.

oldno7

02-06-2018, 04:53 AM

,.,,..

oldno7

02-06-2018, 04:55 AM

These memes are brought to you by...

rockgremlin

02-06-2018, 05:05 AM

,.,,..

LOL watching Nancy Pelosi struggle to eat crow is just so satisfying for some reason.

oldno7

02-06-2018, 05:54 AM

,,,...

rockgremlin

02-06-2018, 07:07 AM

^^^You know, it's really incredible that there's so much talk about "The End of Trump..." It's less of an objective analysis on the President's path to failure as it is just desperate wishful thinking. Such blatantly illogical rhetoric calling for the downfall of the POTUS would be expected from rival dictators or disgruntled developing nations...but not from within. It's really remarkable.

Several of my co-workers are staunch Democrats and can't stand even the sight of Trump. Ever since his election they've been talking like the headlines in this article. Claiming that "Trump will go down for sure now!" When Comey testified against Trump they were literally salivating. I kept insisting that Trump is going nowhere. Love him or hate him, if Trump can dodge all of the bullets that's gotten him this far, he's invincible.

Sombeech

02-06-2018, 07:25 AM

I think Trump's strength is not dodging the bullets, but letting them come right at him. People expect him to run away from accusations, but he stands there and takes it. He waits through it, and they fizzle out, they ALWAYS fizzle out, and he's left as the victor, while his accusers have run out of ammo.

Iceaxe

02-06-2018, 07:29 AM

I find it extremely disturbing that a large part of our government and nation would rather see Trump fail than see our country succeed.

[emoji631]

rockgremlin

02-06-2018, 07:38 AM

Brian in SLC

02-06-2018, 07:49 AM

^^^ I know the analogy has been used so frequently that it's tired now, but I'll repeat it anyways: Think of POTUS as you would the pilot of the airplane you're flying in. You better hope that pilot does the absolute best that he can to ensure you arrive at your destination safely. The last thing you'd want is to wish ill will on the pilot who's flying the plane you're sitting in.

Until you find out that your pilot really doesn't know how to fly...and his co-pilot will take the plane in a direction you don't want to go...

Might explain some of the angst.

Thank goodness there's the autopilot...(ha ha).

oldno7

02-06-2018, 07:55 AM

This term can be used equally with liberal/democrat, here

de·lu·sion·al
dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl/
adjective

characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

oldno7

02-06-2018, 07:59 AM

Until you find out that your pilot really doesn't know how to fly...and his co-pilot will take the plane in a direction you don't want to go...

Might explain some of the angst.

Thank goodness there's the autopilot...(ha ha).

or in this case, you booked a flight to detroit/philly and pilot decided to take you to Hawaii for free, put you up in the Trump hotel and pay for your time, all because capitalism works for all.

Brian in SLC

02-06-2018, 08:32 AM

Unless your pregnant and Russian, then the plane goes to Florida so they can have their "anchor babies" at a Trump hotel...

Brian in SLC

02-06-2018, 08:40 AM

More MAGA news:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-trade/u-s-trade-deficit-rises-to-nine-year-high-on-robust-imports-idUSKBN1FQ1XG

Iceaxe

02-06-2018, 10:22 AM

More MAGA news:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-trade/u-s-trade-deficit-rises-to-nine-year-high-on-robust-imports-idUSKBN1FQ1XGMeh....

That's a double edged sword, the reason the trade deficit rose is the average American has increased their income and wealth. Or to put it another way... poor people can't afford to buy shit.

Come on Brian... I used to think you were a pretty bright guy, but some of your arguments lately are pretty lame.

Brian in SLC

02-06-2018, 12:16 PM

Brian in SLC

02-06-2018, 12:28 PM

A Trump administration will change our failed trade policies, and I mean quickly.
Thank you. Here are seven steps I would pursue right away to bring back our jobs. Number one, I am going to withdraw the United States from the Trans-Pacific Partnership, which has not yet been ratified.
I am going to appoint the toughest and smartest, and I know them all, trade negotiators to fight on behalf of American workers.
I am going to direct the secretary of commerce to identify every violation of trade agreements a foreign country is currently using to harm you, the American worker.
I will then direct all appropriate agencies to use every tool under American and international law to end these abuses. And abuse is the right word.
Number four. I’m going to tell our NAFTA partners that I intend to immediately renegotiate the terms of that agreement to get a better deal by a lot. Not just a little, by a lot for our workers.
And if they don’t agree to a renegotiation, which they might not because they are so used to having their own way — not with Trump they won’t have their own way.
Then, I will submit under Article 2205 of the NAFTA Agreement that America intends to withdraw from the deal.
Number five. I’m going to instruct my treasury secretary to label China a currency manipulator, which should have been done years ago.
Any country that devalues their currency in order to take unfair advantage of the United States, which is many countries, will be met with sharply. And that includes tariffs and taxes.
Number six, I’m going to instruct the U.S. trade representative to bring trade cases against China, both in this country and at the WTO.
China’s unfair subsidy behavior is prohibited by the terms of its entrance to the WTO and I intend to enforce those rules and regulations. And basically, I intend to enforce the agreements from all countries, including China.
Seven, if China does not stop its illegal activities, including its theft of American trade secrets, I will use every lawful — this is very easy. This is so easy. I love saying this. I will use every lawful presidential power to remedy trade disputes, including the application of tariffs consistent with Section 201 and 301 of the Trade Act of 1974, and Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962.
And when they say trade expansion, they’re talking about other countries, they’re not talking about us because there is no expansion. They get the expansion, we get the joblessness. That’s the way it works. It’s not going to happen anymore.

Sombeech

02-06-2018, 12:36 PM

Remind me...what are we arguing about?

Didn't Trump say he would reduce the trade deficit? Especially with "Jina"?

And, after year, it just hit a 9 year high?

So now that people have more money and can afford to buy 'Merican...they're still not?

How does that make sense?

Meh, indeed.

Dang, dude, the tax cuts just came through this month, give it a chance. It's like all the JackTards that blamed Trump for not following through on his campaign promises his 3rd WEEK in office.

Iceaxe

02-06-2018, 01:39 PM

^^^THIS^^^

Obama had 8 years and really has nothing to show for it.

I can't decide if Brian is now just playing stupid or is stupid....

Iceaxe

02-06-2018, 04:17 PM

Sombeech

02-06-2018, 05:48 PM

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 03:30 PM

Russia has nude photo's of Trump... The Russian Unicorn comes home to roost...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/06/schiff-apparently-pranked-by-russian-radio-hosts-who-promised-naked-trump-photos.html

Breaking news! Wow...and to think CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, PBS all didn't have this as their top story! Wow, are they missing the boat or what?

http://metro.co.uk/2018/01/02/fake-news-pro-trump-read-conservatives-research-reveals-7198771/

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 03:31 PM

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/breitbart-fake-news-alex-marlow/

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 03:32 PM

https://www.ft.com/content/611d5c90-0a87-11e8-8eb7-42f857ea9f09

oldno7

02-07-2018, 06:19 PM

what did you do, use your Trump refund to pay for that last site, it won't let me in.

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 06:53 PM

what did you do, use your Trump refund to pay for that last site, it won't let me in.

Nah, I used all that money I made since Friday in the stock market...

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/if-trump-is-right-the-stock-selloff-is-a-big-mistake-it-will-be-because-hes-wrong-about-the-economy-2018-02-07

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 07:04 PM

Dang, dude, the tax cuts just came through this month, give it a chance. It's like all the JackTards that blamed Trump for not following through on his campaign promises his 3rd WEEK in office.

We're post one year.

See that quote above? "And I mean quickly". He's had a year to deal with China and NAFTA. Does it look like he's making progress on either? Nope.

What do you think he'll accomplish in his remaining 3 years (not counting getting impeached)?

2065toyota

02-07-2018, 07:28 PM

88880

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 07:40 PM

Here's how I see the Dow:

88881

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 07:59 PM

And the hits just keep on coming...

Every week, something fun and new...how do we tolerate so much WINNING?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/07/us/politics/rob-porter-resigns-abuse-white-house-staff-secretary.html

Our boy Hatch sure changed his tune...

Who's Porter's girlfriend?

That said, I thought the former White House Communications Director, the "Mooch", held his own on Bill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFNeulNdfRI

2065toyota

02-07-2018, 08:59 PM

The information in the links that don't work are being deleted even faster than Hillary's emails :mrgreen:

Iceaxe

02-07-2018, 09:06 PM

The information in the links that don't work are being deleted even faster than Hillary's emails :mrgreen:

You're lucky... all I got was a request for a subscription before I could read the blocked article.

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 09:12 PM

The information in the links that don't work are being deleted even faster than Hillary's emails :mrgreen:

Here...let me help:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/feb/06/sharing-fake-news-us-rightwing-study-trump-university-of-oxford

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-supporters-read-share-fake-news_us_5a7a25f9e4b06505b4e8f07d

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/07/fake-news-and-the-trumpian-threat-to-democracy/?utm_term=.b2b7cb8d4aed

https://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/blog/fake-news-a-technological-approach-to-proving-the-origins-of-content-using-blockchains/

The one above has the original article. Here's the references cited in the article:

References
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IFP
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IPFS
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PKC
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RSA
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UGC
¼ user-generated content
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2065toyota

02-07-2018, 09:19 PM

Of course I consume and share fake news. Studies have proven that we all need laughter and friendship during the day to be happy.

What does quoting something from the Huffington post mean to anyone anyways. They provide fake news, so posting something about a company promoting fake news about news that fake news is being used to propogate more fake news about some other fake news. I think I confused myself also

It's all good.

I just don't understand the all the anti Trump bullcrap while Hillary can get away with obvious crimes with no consequences. It just seems to me that the whole thing is just a bait and switch to keep the FBI and pressure off of her and give her time to bury people and information.

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 09:22 PM

I just don't understand the all the anti Trump bullcrap while Hillary can get away with obvious crimes with no consequences.

Ok, I'll play. Name one "obvious crime" that HRC got away with. We'll look at that specific crime.

I'm ready.

Iceaxe

02-07-2018, 09:48 PM

Ok, I'll play. Name one "obvious crime" that HRC got away with. We'll look at that specific crime.

I'm ready.

Hosting classified and top secret government information on a personal unsecured server. To the best of my knowledge the fact that she did this (and than tried to cover it up) is no longer in dispute by anyone involved. Nor is the fact that this is illegal in dispute. Others have been sent to prison for the same thing and less.

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 10:19 PM

Hosting classified and top secret government information on a personal unsecured server. To the best of my knowledge the fact that she did this (and than tried to cover it up) is no longer in dispute by anyone involved. Nor is the fact that this is illegal in dispute. Others have been sent to prison for the same thing and less.

Ok...from what we know, she did use a personal server and had classified information on it. None of the information was mishandled and certainly not intentionally. Not enough of a crime to prosecute. Bad judgment? Yep.

No different than Colin Powell or Condie Rice. Where's the outrage for them? Why aren't you chanting, "lock them up"?

Name one person sent to prison for the same or less. Remember, she wasn't in the military.

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 10:21 PM

Ok...we got some constitutional folks here...

The Emoluments Clause. Why isn't Trump guilty of violating it?

Brian in SLC

02-07-2018, 10:32 PM

$25 million fraud lawsuit...more winning...

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/25m-deal-trump-university-fraud-lawsuits-moves-forward-52882718

twotimer

02-08-2018, 04:21 AM

Ok, I'll play. Name one "obvious crime" that HRC got away with. We'll look at that specific crime.

I'm ready.Let's put the whole "crimes" thing aside for the moment and tell me your opinion of how the DNC rigged their primary.

Iceaxe

02-08-2018, 05:11 AM

Ok...from what we know, she did use a personal server and had classified information on it. None of the information was mishandled and certainly not intentionally. Not enough of a crime to prosecute. Bad judgment? Yep.

No different than Colin Powell or Condie Rice. Where's the outrage for them? Why aren't you chanting, "lock them up"?

Name one person sent to prison for the same or less. Remember, she wasn't in the military.

Powell and Rice did not have classified material on unsecured personal servers. And even if they did two wrongs do not make a right.

Kristain Saucier was sent to prison for less, and you are correct Hillary was not in the military, she was Sec of State, which was a much higher and more trusted position.

So your defense is it's OK to break the law if others are doing it and it's OK to break the law because you hold a high postion in the US government... got it...

You are attempting to defend the indefensible and you know it, but feel free to keep hitting all the Clinton and CNN talking points.

DirkHammergate

02-08-2018, 05:17 AM

Let's put the whole "crimes" thing aside for the moment and tell me your opinion of how the DNC rigged their primary.

Its the reason Trump is president. I was outraged and still am, I did vote though unlike many Bernie supports.

There is a simple solution to all of this, winner take all should be mandated in all states. While we're at it, bag the Electoral College and make the Presidential Race a popular vote contest.

Iceaxe

02-08-2018, 05:44 AM

Its the reason Trump is president. I was outraged and still am, I did vote though unlike many Bernie supports.

There is a simple solution to all of this, winner take all should be mandated in all states. While we're at it, bag the Electoral College and make the Presidential Race a popular vote contest.

So you don't believe in states rights? Typical liberal... big government knows what is best for everyone.

If you really want to fix the problem go with "ranked voting^. Look it up if you don't know what it is.

rockgremlin

02-08-2018, 06:40 AM

While we're at it, bag the Electoral College and make the Presidential Race a popular vote contest.

Not a good idea. Not even a mediocre idea.

Please read the following article: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/electoral-college_us_582b66bee4b0aa8910bd3ca5

So, You Say You Want To Get Rid Of The Electoral College, Eh?
Hmm. Careful what you wish for, you guys.

Jason Linkins

In a testament to humanity’s willingness to take on the most futile tasks imaginable without regard to sanity, it was announced Tuesday that outgoing Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) has put forward legislation that would scrap the Electoral College in favor of electing the president of the United States by popular vote. I have this funny feeling that Boxer is so motivated by the fact that the Democratic presidential nominee, Hillary Clinton, won the popular vote, but lost the election.

Needless to say, fans of the Electoral College (and they’re mostly fair-weather fans) should not worry unduly. The Los Angeles Times’ Sarah D. Wire reports (http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-boxer-files-longshot-bill-to-scrap-the-1479234745-htmlstory.html) the obvious fact that Boxer’s measure “is unlikely to gain traction with Republicans holding control of both chambers of Congress in a lame duck session.” (Also: 38 of the 50 states would have to ratify this.)

One thing that the Electoral College has going for it, in terms of its own self-perpetuation, is that the occasion to discuss it only arises every four years. If you start talking about scrapping the system before the election, you’ll get shut down because no one likes “changing horses in midstream,” as they say. And if you start talking about it after the election, then you’re probably just plucking sour grapes from the vine.

oldno7

02-08-2018, 08:56 AM

I'm guessing this is a parody, if not:roflol:

twotimer

02-08-2018, 09:12 AM

I was outraged and still am, I did vote though unlike many Bernie supports.

Which means you went with the program and fell in line just like a good lemming. Not tryin' to give you grief, I just don't understand it.

If the Republicans had pulled some bullshit like that, I would have ditched the GOP faster than you can say "Where did he go?" I'd likely never vote again...and join the ranks of those waiting for the great third party miracle worker to show up.

I certainly understand that corruption reigns supreme in the DC swamp, but throwing down the rubber stamp of approval with something so in your face as that I would never tolerate.

Sombeech

02-08-2018, 09:30 AM

There is a simple solution to all of this, winner take all should be mandated in all states. While we're at it, bag the Electoral College and make the Presidential Race a popular vote contest.

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you made this decision suddenly on election night, but were completely happy with the electoral college prior to that.

DirkHammergate

02-08-2018, 11:05 AM

I'm going to take a wild guess and assume you made this decision suddenly on election night, but were completely happy with the electoral college prior to that.

No not at all. I've never understood it. In general elections popular vote should be the deciding factor. Most argue that the country shouldn't be dominated by Blue States yet I don't see why someone's vote from Iowa is essentially weighted more than someone from NY or California. Votes should be equal regardless of state.

DirkHammergate

02-08-2018, 11:37 AM

Which means you went with the program and fell in line just like a good lemming. Not tryin' to give you grief, I just don't understand it.

I chose a write in candidate. I always vote regardless so I can vote against Mia Love every 2 years.

Iceaxe

02-08-2018, 01:34 PM

No not at all. I've never understood it.

That's obvious..... The first thing you need to understand is we are a democratic republic and not a true democracy. Once you understand why our founding fathers decided on a democratic republic and not a democracy you will understand why we have an electrol college.

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oldno7

02-08-2018, 01:43 PM

^^^^^^^Yep

With a popular vote, New York and California would decide all elections, flyover states would have no reason to vote.

With electoral college, every state has a say and that say is based off their population.

Brian in SLC

02-08-2018, 02:24 PM

Let's put the whole "crimes" thing aside for the moment and tell me your opinion of how the DNC rigged their primary.

Sucked sucked sucked.

HRC was no good choice either. Ohhh...Donna. Yeah, the system was rigged for sure.

I for sure didn't think Bernie was electable, but, I think more of the haters would have stayed home. As it was, Bernie fans stayed home. And, the hate machine energized folks to get out against "Crooked Hillary" and they showed up in droves.

Between Comey's bad timing, Russian influence (and Barry's reluctance to drop dime and influence the election...because he's an honorable guy...), and losing the rust belt (no repeat of Bill's assault weapons ban), she lost. Not by much, but, she lost. Unfair and square (ha ha).

But, she was a better choice for the country than Trump. By far. Putin owns him (and hated HRC). If that doesn't give you any pause for concern....well...here we are.

What the Democrats (and Republicans for that matter) have to do is get some traction with the common man (person) in the US. Understand why. And then appeal. I have no confidence that they'll do it. If the economy continues on its strong course, they'll need to be a fairly decent meltdown between now and 3 years. Which, every week...tick tick tick...only a matter of time maybe.

Stay tuned!

Iceaxe

02-08-2018, 03:00 PM

twotimer

02-08-2018, 03:26 PM

Sucked sucked sucked.

HRC was no good choice either. Ohhh...Donna. Yeah, the system was rigged for sure.

But, she was a better choice for the country than Trump. By far. Putin owns him (and hated HRC). If that doesn't give you any pause for concern....well...here we are.

Yes indeed...what we have here is an irreconcilable view of reality. I keep waiting for anyone, anyhow, anyway to SHOW ME that our Prez is Putin's boy...I don't see it. Show me the beef and I'll sign right up.

You say a Clinton win would have been preferable? Even with the shenanigans you acknowledge? Personally, I'll never vote for an "appointed" candidate.

Personally, I think the election of Trump is the best thing to happen to our country since Reagan. Otherwise we would have lost it all to a corrupt oligarchy...thank God Obama blew chunks so bad.

It's too bad all these pathetic c**ks*****s in the media are freaking out. Gumming up the works (pun intended) for no good reason.

Different views of reality, indeed.

Brian in SLC

02-08-2018, 03:27 PM

Talk about no good deed goes unpunished.... LMAO

The democrats rigged the election with one of the few people on the planet who could lose to Trump.

I'm the first to admit Trump is a flawed individual, but the nation decided he was a better choice than crooked Hillary.

Yeah, I don't know whether to laugh...or cry...

She bounced off that glass ceiling and smacked into the floor...ugh.

I kinda like that lieutenant gov in Cali. If there wasn't such a hate of all things Cali... Wonder how Biden would fair...

We'll see what the mid terms bring. Jenny gettin' slaughtered by Mittens. Chatted with her dad briefly the other day...his quote, "Mitt has star power". I agree with him that she might have stood a snowball's chance against Hatch.

Ben v Mia. That'll be a doozy. Too close to call and she has the incumbent edge (and also hasn't aligned with the groper in chief). She might be tough to pick apart. Maybe folks will remember she's from one of them shithole countries.

oldno7

02-08-2018, 03:38 PM

Sucked sucked sucked.

HRC was no good choice either. Ohhh...Donna. Yeah, the system was rigged for sure.

I for sure didn't think Bernie was electable, but, I think more of the haters would have stayed home. As it was, Bernie fans stayed home. And, the hate machine energized folks to get out against "Crooked Hillary" and they showed up in droves.

Between Comey's bad timing, Russian influence (and Barry's reluctance to drop dime and influence the election...because he's an honorable guy...), and losing the rust belt (no repeat of Bill's assault weapons ban), she lost. Not by much, but, she lost. Unfair and square (ha ha).

But, she was a better choice for the country than Trump. By far. Putin owns him (and hated HRC). If that doesn't give you any pause for concern....well...here we are.

What the Democrats (and Republicans for that matter) have to do is get some traction with the common man (person) in the US. Understand why. And then appeal. I have no confidence that they'll do it. If the economy continues on its strong course, they'll need to be a fairly decent meltdown between now and 3 years. Which, every week...tick tick tick...only a matter of time maybe.

Stay tuned!

:roflol::roflol::roflol:

You've outdone yourself.
Your 180deg/upside down, unfounded,nonsense driven view is hillarious

"and Barry's reluctance to drop dime and influence the election...because he's an honorable guy":roflol::roflol::roflol:

honorable???, nobody, except hillary, tried harder to alter an election and the course of history.(criminal for sure)

he tried to "fundamentally" change America and us folks beat him back, one can only take so much from a bill ayers mouth piece.

Thats the beauty of TRUMP, he can't be bought and sold like zero and hill already have...

honorable:roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:: roflol:

oldno7

02-08-2018, 03:42 PM

biden:roflol:

This is comedy gold....

ol' shotgun joe.

probably run with polosi

please o please, run biden

oldno7

02-08-2018, 04:03 PM

I guess you liberal(singular) know that the clintoon foundation is under investigation?

Testimony yesterday, put obama in charge of the uranium sale to russia.(honorable, if bent on destroying the USA, as he was)

the third trifecta of the clinton foundation, sydney bloomenthal's daughter chelsea.

And speaking of bloominthal, he is now being linked to feeding false information to steele to compile the fake dossier.

yep, demorats are all honorable or at least blind and ignorant sheeple.

Iceaxe

02-08-2018, 04:32 PM

Barry's reluctance to drop dime and influence the election...because he's an honorable guy...

Yeah, that one really cracked me up..... :roflol:

And because Brian seems to be a little lax on world history here are six other elections Barry meddle in....

Kenya
Investigative reporter Jerome Corsi of WorldNetDaily broke this story when he visited Kenya and was able to confirm that Obama, as a U.S. Senator, illegally used a taxpayer-financed trip to campaign for far-left presidential candidate Raila Odinga in Kenya’s 2006 elections.

Israel
During Israel’s 2015 elections, the Obama administration — led by Secretary of State John Kerry — illegally intervened when they attempted to defeat the reelection of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by covertly funneling State Department grants to opposition groups

Macedonia
The U.S. government has quietly spent millions of taxpayer dollars to destabilize the democratically elected, center-right government in Macedonia.

Libya
In 2011, Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, not only interfered politically in Libya but militarily as well, by orchestrating a series of policies designed to remove Muammar Gaddafi from power.

Honduras
Shortly after Obama was elected, leftist Honduran president Manual Zelaya attempted to illegally amend the Honduran Constitution so as to allow himself to serve as President longer than one term. Incredibly, Zelaya and a mob broke into a military installation where blank ballots were stored and tried to hold a constitutional referendum without the support of the election authorities. As a result, on orders from the Honduran Supreme Court, he was forcefully removed from office as Honduran law calls for. Obama attacked Zelaya’s removal, falsely calling it a “coup d’état”

Egypt
Like Libya, the Obama administration encouraged opposition to President Hosni Mubarak and intervened in elections to ensure that a radical Muslim Brotherhood leader, Mohammed Morsi, was elected president. Obama’s State Department even gave political training to MB leaders.

And more comedy gold...............

Let's not forget Brexit
Obama interfered in Brexit which was another train wreck, at least for his cause. The European Union says President Obama accidentally helped the Brexit cause when Obama's calls for the United Kingdom to stay in the EU caused people to vote to leave. Now that's a real world leader right there... ROFLMAO...

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:20 PM

scandal free:

fast and furious,
eric holder held in contempt
IRS scandal
benghazi
clinton email
how could we forget the billions he gave his friends in solyndra,

Here--you liberals like wiki, they have them alphabetized:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obama_administration_controversies

scandal free:roflol:

most corrupt in US history and the accountability has just begun.

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:26 PM

forgot about the spying on journalist scandal:

Spying on journalists: Establishment media came about as close to falling out of love with Barack Obama as ever when his administration was caught spying on journalists (http://theweek.com/articles/464430/why-did-obama-administration-spy-associated-press).
Why, if the reporter subjected to the most egregious surveillance, James Rosen (https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ticket/obama-admin-spied-fox-news-reporter-james-rosen-134204299.html?ref=gs), didn’t work for Fox News, the mainstream media might have started treating Obama like a (shudder) Republican. Rosen was treated so badly that even Attorney General Eric Holder eventually admitted (http://www.breitbart.com/blog/2013/05/28/report-holder-felt-remorse-over-fnc-james-rosen-subpoena/) feeling a bit of “remorse” about it. Apparently he felt so much anguish that he suffered temporary amnesia (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/05/perjury-may-not-be-such-a-tough-rap-to-prove-in-the-eric-holders-case.php) and forgot to tell Congress that he signed off on the request to wiretap Rosen while he was testifying under oath.

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:28 PM

Bowe Bergdahl: Bergdahl’s ultimate fate rests in the hands of a military court (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/25/white-house-silent-after-sgt-bowe-bergdahl-charged-with-treason/) (unless Obama pardons him (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/03/sgt-bowe-bergdahl-requests-pardon-obama-trump-takes-office/)) but no verdict can erase the scandalous way (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/06/01/was-the-taliban-telling-the-truth-about-sgt-bergdahl/) this administration conducted the prisoner swap that freed him from the Taliban and its allies. Many lies were told (http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/12/bergdahl_court_martial_also_indicts_obama.html), the law was flouted (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/10/investigation-barack-obama-broke-laws-swap-five-taliban-leaders-bowe-bergdahl/), a deal of questionable wisdom (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/12/15/obama-alternatives-taliban-five-exchange-bowe-bergdahl/) was struck with his captors, and outraged Americans demanded recognition for the soldiers who died searching for Bergdahl (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/03/26/reality-check-six-soldiers-died-searching-for-bowe-bergdahl/) after he abandoned his post.

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:28 PM

This was a doozy

Iran nuclear deal and ransom payment: Everything about Obama’s dealings with Iran has been scandalous, beginning with his silence while the Green Revolution was brutally put down (http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/why-obama-turned-his-back-on-the-green-revolution-in-iran.php) by the mullahs in 2009. The Iran nuclear deal was pushed with lies (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/05/zumwalt-obama-used-fake-news-sell-iran-nuclear-deal/) and media manipulation (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/09/obamas-foreign-policy-czar-knew-nothing-foreign-policy-really-good-lying/). The infamous pallet of cash that wasn’t a ransom (http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/09/07/confirmed-obamas-entire-1-7-billion-tribute-iran-paid-cash/) has become symbolic of Obama’s mendacity and penchant for breaking the rules, when he thinks following them is too much trouble.

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:29 PM

Polluting the Colorado river: The Environmental Protection Agency managed to turn the Colorado River orange (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/11/epa-causes-massive-hazardous-spill-in-west/) under this greenest of green Presidents. Of course there was a cover-up (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/17/epa-hiding-data-from-toxic-spill-it-caused-in-colorado/). Would you expect anything less from this “transparent” administration?

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:29 PM

The VA death-list scandal: The Department of Veterans Affairs has long been troubled, but the big scandals broke on Obama’s watch, most infamously the secret death lists (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/05/report-200-veterans-die-waiting-care-phoenix-va-build-new-backlog-cases/)veterans were put on while executives handed in phony status reports and signed themselves up for big bonuses. Obama was more interested in spinning the news and minimizing his political exposure than addressing problems; in few areas outside ObamaCare has his rhetoric been more hollow, his promises more meaningless (http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/03/19/texas-governor-and-senators-press-va-for-action-on-manipulation-of-veteran-wait-times/).

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:30 PM

Secret Service gone wild: The Obama years saw one scandal after another hit the Secret Service, from agents going wild with hookers (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2012/04/14/misconduct-involved-significant-number-of-agents/) in Columbia, to a fence jumper (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-fence-jumper-made-it-far-deeper-into-building-than-previously-known/2014/09/29/02efd53e-47ea-11e4-a046-120a8a855cca_story.html?utm_term=.823ed608fbad)pen etrating the White House, and tipsy Secret Service officials driving their car into a security barrier (http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/12/politics/secrect-service-scandals-gate-crasher-dui/).

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:31 PM

Shutdown theater: Obama hit the American people hard (http://humanevents.com/2013/10/03/shutdown-theater-update/) during the great government shutdown crisis of 2013, doing everything he could to make American citizens feel maximum pain – from using “Barry-cades” to keep war veterans away from their memorials (https://www.stripes.com/news/wwii-veterans-storm-dc-memorial-closed-by-government-shutdown-1.244447), to releasing illegal alien criminals (http://humanevents.com/2014/05/12/feds-release-more-illegal-alien-criminals-into-the-population/) from detention centers. It was an infuriating lesson for voters in how every dollar they get from government is a dollar that can be used against them, when they are impudent enough to demand spending restraint.

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:32 PM

How bout--bill and loretta meeting on the tarmac

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:34 PM

Unmasking” and Domestic SurveillanceWhat it was: Obama officials requested that the identities of Trump associates swept up in intelligence agencies’ intercepts of foreigners’ phone calls and emails be revealed, or “unmasked.” These were the latest episodes of Obama-era monitoring of Americans, including members of Congress, opponents of the Iran nuclear deal and journalists.

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:37 PM

I'm sure these are just mere oversites by scott and brian, who claimed he had zero..they are just confused by his effectiveness---zero

oldno7

02-08-2018, 05:40 PM

And of course--more MAGA

Trump administration may block permanent residency requests from visa recipients who receive government benefits
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-administration-may-block-permanent-residency-requests-from-visa-recipients-who-receive-government-benefits/article/2648542

Scott P

02-08-2018, 06:07 PM

And because Brian seems to be a little lax on world history here are six other elections Barry meddle in....

There were more than that. For example, under Obama, the US also meddled in France's election too. As said earlier, all administrations have done this for the last 100+ years.

I'll bet you your Vette against my house on that the Trump Admin will do the same thing. Will you take that bet?

I'm sure these are just mere oversites by scott and brian, who claimed he had zero..

I pointed out that there were zero criminal convictions to date, which is 100% true.

http://www.bogley.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=88885&d=1518103545

Shane claims that it is because only Republicans get convicted and democrats are always above the law, but for that to happen, they would have to have complete control of the courts, which will never happen.

I also agree with you earlier when you alluded that partisanship shouldn't have a place in FBI investigations, etc.

I have said it before and will say it again. Partisanship is ruining much of what makes this country great.

Scott P

02-08-2018, 06:27 PM

Anyway, for anyone who thinks the US is corrupt now (and it often is), the last 40 years have been less corrupt than the US was in the past.

Check out some of the human experiments the US was involved with in the past:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es

The CIA was extremely corrupt in the 1950's especially. From the above (most of the below has been proven since. Not all of it was done by the Government, but some was). This is some scary ****.

1950s

In 1950, in order to conduct a simulation of a biological warfare attack, the U.S. Navy sprayed large quantities of the bacteria Serratia marcescens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serratia_marcescens) – considered harmless at this time – over the city of San Francisco during a project called Operation Sea-Spray (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray). Numerous citizens contracted pneumonia-like illnesses, and at least one person died as a result.[36] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-undue-risk-233-234-36)[37] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-rogue-state-147-149-37)[38] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-38)[39] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-39)[40] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-40)[41] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-Medscape-41) The family of the man who died sued the government for gross negligence, but a federal judge ruled in favor of the government in 1981.[42] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-42) Serratia tests were continued until at least 1969.[43] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-43)

Also in 1950, Dr. Joseph Stokes of the University of Pennsylvania (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Pennsylvania) deliberately infected 200 female prisoners with viral hepatitis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_hepatitis).[44] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-acres-91-44)

From the 1950s to 1972, mentally disabled children at the Willowbrook State School (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willowbrook_State_School) in Staten Island (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staten_Island), New York (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_(state)) were intentionally infected with viral hepatitis, for research whose purpose was to help discover a vaccine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine).[45] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-45) From 1963 to 1966, Saul Krugman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Krugman) of New York University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_University) promised the parents of mentally disabled children that their children would be enrolled into Willowbrook in exchange for signing a consent form for procedures that he claimed were "vaccinations." In reality, the procedures involved deliberately infecting children with viral hepatitis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_hepatitis) by feeding (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeding) them an extract made from the feces (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feces) of patients infected with the disease.[46] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-46)[47] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-47)

In 1952, Chester M. Southam (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_M._Southam), a Sloan-Kettering Institute (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloan-Kettering_Institute) researcher, injected live cancer cells, known as HeLa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeLa) cells, into prisoners at the Ohio State Penitentiary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_Penitentiary) and cancer patients. Also at Sloan-Kettering, 300 healthy women were injected with live cancer cells without being told. The doctors stated that they knew at the time that it might cause cancer.[48] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-goliszek-228-48)

In 1953 Frank Olson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Olson) died after a fall from a hotel building after being unknowingly doped with LSD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD) by the CIA nine days prior.

The San Francisco Chronicle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_San_Francisco_Chronicle), December 17, 1979, p. 5 reported a claim by the Church of Scientology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scientology) that the CIA conducted an open-air biological warfare experiment in 1955 near Tampa, Florida (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa,_Florida) and elsewhere in Florida (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida) with whooping cough bacteria (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whooping_cough_bacteria). It was alleged that the experiment tripled the whooping cough infections in Florida to over one-thousand cases and caused whooping cough deaths in the state to increase from one to 12 over the previous year. This claim has been cited in a number of later sources, although these added no further supporting evidence.[49] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-rogue-state-150-151-49)[50] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-50)

During the 1950s the United States conducted a series of field tests using entomological weapons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entomological_warfare). Operation Big Itch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Big_Itch), in 1954, was designed to test munitions loaded with uninfected fleas (Xenopsylla cheopis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_rat_flea)). In May 1955 over 300,000 uninfected mosquitoes (Aedes aegypti (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aedes_aegypti)) were dropped over parts of the U.S. state of Georgia to determine if the air-dropped mosquitoes could survive to take meals from humans. The mosquito tests were known as Operation Big Buzz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Big_Buzz). The U.S. engaged in at least two other EW testing programs, Operation Drop Kick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Drop_Kick) and Operation May Day (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_May_Day).[49] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_Stat es#cite_note-rogue-state-150-151-49)

Iceaxe

02-08-2018, 06:39 PM

I'll bet you your Vette against my house on that the Trump Admin will do the same thing. Will you take that bet?

I'm smarter than that and I understand Americans just can't help themselves, it's Brian making the outrageous claims of Berry not interfering in elections.

Barry did everything in his power to get HRC elected, including corrupting out justice system.

Iceaxe

02-09-2018, 03:05 PM

Brian in SLC

02-09-2018, 03:23 PM

I'm smarter than that and I understand Americans just can't help themselves, it's Brian making the outrageous claims of Berry not interfering in elections.

Barry did everything in his power to get HRC elected, including corrupting out justice system.

Oh...not even close!

If you really think the FBI was doing Barry's bidding...then why wasn't that stinky bit of intel floated as an October surprise? He held onto that. I'll bet he's seen the piss tape. And, you know he knew about porn stars and three ways. He held the high ground. Smart...there woulda been bloodshed, and, not just some random dude showing up at a pizza parlor with an AK.

Brian in SLC

02-09-2018, 03:26 PM

I'm still trying to figure out why the Democrats hate Trump so much. He is blowing through cash like a drunken sailor.

Never thought I'd see the day when Republicans are spending like there is no tomorrow and Democrats would be bitching about what it's going to do to the deficit.

Yeah, its crazy town.

Its a curse, I tell's ya...

http://time.com/money/5140978/a-100-year-curse-on-gop-presidents-might-explain-why-stocks-are-tumbling/

oldno7

02-09-2018, 05:52 PM

Must be nice to have a cushy government job and troll the internet on computers all day.

anyway--yea, Trump has had wifes, I'm sure they are all happy about it.

No one here has ever said he is a great personality, quite the opposite in fact.

He's an easterner, hard to like those easterners bit of a rare breed.

What he was elected to do was drain the swamp and he is being successful beyond anyone's wildest dreams.

Sombeech

02-09-2018, 06:38 PM

You see, the great thing about this chart is, not only is Trump clean, he's not even on the graph.

http://www.bogley.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=88885&d=1518103545

oldno7

02-09-2018, 07:01 PM

,,..,found zero

Brian in SLC

02-09-2018, 07:08 PM

TBD!

CIA...Russian spies...

Is it getting warm in here...?

oldno7

02-09-2018, 07:09 PM

,,..,

oldno7

02-09-2018, 07:12 PM

,,..,,.

Brian in SLC

02-09-2018, 07:25 PM

Rachael Brand resigns...yeah..drain the swamp!

So much winning...

oldno7

02-09-2018, 07:41 PM

Rachael Brand resigns...yeah..drain the swamp!

So much winning...

Wow---good job, you got it.....

oldno7

02-13-2018, 05:48 AM

..,,..,,

oldno7

02-13-2018, 05:50 AM

.,.,.,one of these things, ain't like the other..

DirkHammergate

02-13-2018, 06:24 AM

.,.,.,one of these things, ain't like the other..

We get it... he's black.

Iceaxe

02-13-2018, 07:10 AM

.,.,.,one of these things, ain't like the other..
Be a shitty president, get a shitty portrait, sounds simple enough.

The Obama's picked the artist, this just proves he has poor judgement.

devo_stevo

02-13-2018, 07:26 AM

I had to google it as I didn't think that was real. Oh my. Well, at least Slate, Newsweek, and the New York Times think it's pretty amazing. That's all that matters, right?

rockgremlin

02-13-2018, 07:26 AM

88956

I don't get it. Why was he painted to look like he's hiding in the shrubbery? Like some creepy stalker. Did he request to be painted to look like a window-peeper? Someone enlighten me, please.

I mean, personally I like Obama as a person. Not my very favorite president, but I considered him a guy worthy of respect. This portrait doesn't do him justice IMO.

devo_stevo

02-13-2018, 07:29 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lPJ9J-6vDw

rockgremlin

02-13-2018, 07:31 AM

^^^OMG that is exactly what I was thinking when I saw it, LOL!

twotimer

02-13-2018, 07:39 AM

That dude should have been a guitar player.

Sombeech

02-13-2018, 07:52 AM

.,.,.,one of these things, ain't like the other..

http://www.bogley.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=88945&stc=1&d=1518529778

At first I thought, why would somebody do that to Obama, and then realized this was on purpose.

What the shit is it supposed to mean, what statement did Michelle tell her husband to tell the artist to make

oldno7

02-13-2018, 07:57 AM

We get it... he's black.

Man, I don't care who ya are:roflol:

Brian in SLC

02-13-2018, 07:59 AM

Typo corrected...no harm, no foul.

devo_stevo

02-13-2018, 08:02 AM

Word!

rockgremlin

02-13-2018, 08:18 AM

At first I thought, why would somebody do that to Obama, and then realized this was on purpose.

What the shit is it supposed to mean, what statement did Michelle tell her husband to tell the artist to make

That's what I thought. I thought "Oh this is just Oldno7 putting those photoshop skills to work."

And then it sunk in that this is a real President commissioned painting...:eek2:

Sandstone Addiction

02-13-2018, 09:30 AM

Some of the artist's other work...

88962

Sandstone Addiction

02-13-2018, 09:37 AM

Here's another one...

“Wiley translates this image of a courageous, powerful woman into a contemporary version that resonates with fury and righteousness.”

www.aol.com/article/news/2018/02/12/obama-portrait-artist-kehinde-wiley-painted-black-women-beheading-white-women/23359891/

88965

uintafly

02-13-2018, 01:02 PM

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2018/02/13/commentary-rob-porter-is-my-ex-husband-heres-what-you-should-know-about-abuse/

He only hires the best people.

Iceaxe

02-13-2018, 01:48 PM

https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2018/02/13/commentary-rob-porter-is-my-ex-husband-heres-what-you-should-know-about-abuse/

He only hires the best people.

As an employer I can tell you how a person maintains their personal life often has very little to do with how they preform in their professional life.

I'm not condoning wife beating, just saying it says little about how someone performs their job.

Two of the best employees I ever had were an alcoholic and a polygamous. Without doubt the two worst employees I ever had were both very religious family men.

Just my personal observations over 40 years and a couple hundred employees.

YMMV

rockgremlin

02-13-2018, 02:04 PM

Some of the artist's other work...

88962

Should've gotten Kathy Griffin to paint his portrait. I hear she's into this sort of thing...

Iceaxe

02-16-2018, 05:11 PM

For some strange reason #FakeNews is rejoicing at the fact that Robert Mueller handed down 13 indictments in his Russia probe today. However, I'm not really sure what they are so thrilled about.

Not only does the indictment not implicate Trump, but Rod Rosenstein admits that NO AMERICANS were involved in any scheme to collude in the 2016 Presidential election.

So.... unless I'm missing something the entire “Trump-Russia Collusion” narrative has just crashed and burned.

:popcorn:

twotimer

02-16-2018, 05:30 PM

So.... unless I'm missing something the entire “Trump-Russia Collusion” narrative has just crashed and burned.

:popcorn:Whatever it is you're missing, I'm sure the liberals will figure it out. They're dug in so deep on this I can't see how they could just drop it now. I'm sure within 24 hours they'll come up with some kind of conspiracy theory that keeps it alive.

They'll likely accuse Mueller of being in the tank for Trump.

Iceaxe

02-16-2018, 06:03 PM

I read the entire indictment and watched the Rosenstein press conference on mind rotting cable news and took away 3 key points.

1. The Russians tried to meddle in the election.

2. No American wittingly helped the Russians.

3. No evidence that the meddling impacted the election results.

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twotimer

02-16-2018, 06:25 PM

Iceaxe

02-16-2018, 08:34 PM

"The 1980s called and wants it's foreign policy back".

They giggled with glee when Barry said that...then it came back to bite them right in the ass.

The cherry to top it off will be more conservative seats in the Senate come November. Another Supreme Court justice will do nicely, too.

My...how the worm has turned.

Trading Ginsburg for another Gorsuch is my political dream. I'll even be happy with Kennedy for another Gorsuch.

I think Ginsburg screwed the pooch by not stepping down when Dem's had the Senate and Berry.

twotimer

02-16-2018, 08:58 PM

She probably figured Hillary had it in the bag just like everyone else did. Besides, if she were to retire, she'd likely die quickly from inactivity. She'll cling on 'till the end. I'd bet they'll have to gurney her body out of there.

oldno7

02-17-2018, 05:50 AM

Heres the actual indictment on the Russians:

https://www.justice.gov/file/1035477/download

Heres the original order from Rosenstein, hiring mueller to investigate.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download

Yep--NO Americans knowingly colluded with the Russians an election tampering..

The elections were NOT affected by the Russian tampering.

The Russians will never be extradited to the US to face charges.

This should end the mueller investigation.

Now--on to the real criminals involved in attempting a coupe and many ,many felonies, including treason.

oldno7

02-17-2018, 05:56 AM

And to the resident liberal who is terminally wrong on most everything

oldno7

02-17-2018, 06:07 AM

,.,.,

oldno7

02-17-2018, 06:08 AM

and another picture of a liberal on the wrong side of everything

oldno7

02-17-2018, 06:13 AM

,.,.,,,