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    ^^^I laughed....

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    Hopefully it won't be too much longer here and the gov. in Iran will hit the skids. If N.K. follows hot on it's heels then maybe Trump will end up getting a nice, easy plate of foreign policy served up.

    Would'nt that be something? The two gnarliest regimes in the world caving in on themselves.

    IDK...I'm pretty encouraged. I think we're in pretty good shape 25 years after the collapse of the old world order when all these nations were left to fend for themselves...only two of them stayed completely off the rails and both are in poor shape. The world may indeed be a better place in the years to come.
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    Donald J. Trump
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    I will be announcing THE MOST DISHONEST & CORRUPT MEDIA AWARDS OF THE YEAR on Monday at 5:00 o’clock. Subjects will cover Dishonesty & Bad Reporting in various categories from the Fake News Media. Stay tuned!
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    Getting shit done...

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  11. #768
    About frickin' time....

    Trump tells the Palestinians to show up for peace talks or the US is cutting off their millions in aid.

    It's nice to again finally have a President with big brass balls. Regan is the last president we had with a set.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...alk-peace.html

  12. #769
    Finally a can't miss awards show....

  13. #770
    2.1 million jobs added in 2017. Unemployment rate drops to 4.7%. Average hourly wage rose 2.5%. Unemployment rate for African Americans hits an all time record low of 6.8%. The DJIA sets a record high 71 times. That's a pretty good year anyway you want to slice it.

    Trump promised to be the greatest jobs president ever and so far he is on track.

    And all the while Democrats run around screaming the sky is falling.

    #MAGA

  14. #771
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    2.1 million jobs added in 2017. Unemployment rate drops to 4.7%. Average hourly wage rose 2.5%. Unemployment rate for African Americans hits an all time record low of 6.8%. The DJIA sets a record high 71 times. That's a pretty good year anyway you want to slice it.

    Trump promised to be the greatest jobs president ever and so far he is on track.

    And all the while Democrats run around screaming the sky is falling.

    #MAGA
    Nah, he's not on track, he's still lagging behind Barry. Jobs added per month have gone down. Percent increase in the stock market hasn't exceeded Barry.

    Remember when BHO took over from Bush and what the stock market and jobs outlook was like? Was in the dumpster.

    Trump took over a healthy economy from a president who had more influence over it. He's still riding that wave that he didn't create. But now all those fake job reports numbers are real (ha ha) and he has a bigger button on his desk. The lemmings love this guy.

    As soon as the campaign team had stepped into the White House, Walsh saw, it had gone from managing Trump to the expectation of being managed by him. Yet the president, while proposing the most radical departure from governing and policy norms in several generations, had few specific ideas about how to turn his themes and vitriol into policy. And making suggestions to him was deeply complicated. Here, arguably, was the central issue of the Trump presidency, informing every aspect of Trumpian policy and leadership: He didn’t process information in any conventional sense. He didn’t read. He didn’t really even skim. Some believed that for all practical purposes he was no more than semi-*literate. He trusted his own expertise *— no matter how paltry or irrelevant — more than anyone else’s. He was often confident, but he was just as often paralyzed, less a savant than a figure of sputtering and dangerous insecurities, whose instinctive response was to lash out and behave as if his gut, however confused, was in fact in some clear and forceful way telling him what to do. It was, said Walsh, “like trying to figure out what a child wants.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian in SLC View Post
    Nah, he's not on track, he's still lagging behind Barry. Jobs added per month have gone down. Percent increase in the stock market hasn't exceeded Barry.

    Remember when BHO took over from Bush and what the stock market and jobs outlook was like? Was in the dumpster.

    Trump took over a healthy economy from a president who had more influence over it. He's still riding that wave that he didn't create. But now all those fake job reports numbers are real (ha ha) and he has a bigger button on his desk. The lemmings love this guy.

    As soon as the campaign team had stepped into the White House, Walsh saw, it had gone from managing Trump to the expectation of being managed by him. Yet the president, while proposing the most radical departure from governing and policy norms in several generations, had few specific ideas about how to turn his themes and vitriol into policy. And making suggestions to him was deeply complicated. Here, arguably, was the central issue of the Trump presidency, informing every aspect of Trumpian policy and leadership: He didn’t process information in any conventional sense. He didn’t read. He didn’t really even skim. Some believed that for all practical purposes he was no more than semi-*literate. He trusted his own expertise *— no matter how paltry or irrelevant — more than anyone else’s. He was often confident, but he was just as often paralyzed, less a savant than a figure of sputtering and dangerous insecurities, whose instinctive response was to lash out and behave as if his gut, however confused, was in fact in some clear and forceful way telling him what to do. It was, said Walsh, “like trying to figure out what a child wants.”
    Typical liberal.... "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".

    I will agree that Obama inherited a dumpster fire, but standing on the balcony pissing on it was not a great solution. Obama was the first president to never hit 3% growth. Obama never understood what it took to get business booming.

    The basic question voters ask themselves when going to the polls is "am I better off today then 4 years ago". I know very few people that can't answer yes if that question were asked today.

  16. #773
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    Typical liberal.... "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".

    I will agree that Obama inherited a dumpster fire, but standing on the balcony pissing on it was not a great solution. Obama was the first president to never hit 3% growth. Obama never understood what it took to get business booming.

    The basic question voters ask themselves when going to the polls is "am I better off today then 4 years ago". I know very few people that can't answer yes if that question were asked today.
    Barry did a hell of a lot more than piss on the fire. And, business was booming, despite your short term memory.

    What remains to be seen, is, the downstream effect of Trump's undoing of all that "stuff".

    We'll see in a few years, but, you're right...basic question...better off now? Hard to argue with happiness.

    "Biden also suggested that Trump is unable to understand what he's dealing with — "this is not a business deal," he said, referring to Trump's past in real estate. "This is not who builds the next skyscraper." He wouldn't comment on whether he thinks Trump is fit for office, but did say Trump's approach to the presidency "erodes those invisible elements of citizenship that sort of are the buoyancy for what makes this nation so special. It's less his policies than the way he conducts [himself], how unpresidential he is.""

  17. #774
    2.1 million jobs added in 2017. Unemployment rate drops to 4.7%. Average hourly wage rose 2.5%. Unemployment rate for African Americans hits an all time record low of 6.8%. The DJIA sets a record high 71 times. That's a pretty good year anyway you want to slice it.
    All good news, but it seems that the average hourly wage should have gone up more than 2.5% though. This seems low considering the economic boom.
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  18. #775
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    All good news, but it seems that the average hourly wage should have gone up more than 2.5% though. This seems low considering the economic boom.
    And, really, no different than wage increase under Barry:

    https://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/50860...en-in-8-charts

    http://www.businessinsider.com/obama...arm-payrolls-1

  19. #776
    Brian... Let's come at this from a different direction. Do you honestly believe Obama will go down in history as a good president?

    And we're not comparing him to Trump as it's impossible to rate a president after the first year of a 4 or 8 year run.

    Personally I believe history will eventually place Obama somewhere below the 50% line. Somewhere down in the Jimmy Carter and Bush 2 realm. Obama has no major accomplishments that will last. He did change the direction of healthcare, but his signature accomplishment (Affordable Care Act) has pretty much been torpedoed. He left the middle East a shit storm (Bush 2 helped). Race relations went backwards 20 years under Obama. I do give him credit for doing a descent job of pulling us out of the Bush 2 economic dumpster fire. He certainly didn't make it worse, but his numerous regulations didn't help.

    Anyhoo... enquiring minds want to know.

  20. #777
    I'm up over 100K in the last year and I didn't have to do a damn thing. MAGA?...you bet your ass.

    I'm not voting for any stinking Democrats, period. I can't understand how anyone with retirement savings wouldn't be thinking the same thing...yet they still want to beat him down.

    If this had happened when the last guy was there, then I'd probably be a fan. But it didn't, and what is even more important is that it's very likely to get even better. Personally, I feel more optimistic now that I have since the end of '08.

    All this side show stuff is irrelevant.
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  21. #778
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    2.1 million jobs added in 2017. ....

    Since the US population is in the region of 320 million then I'd suggest that natural deaths, births, retirements, occasional & regional variations, a few hurricanes & tornadoes and natural expansion of population and a lot of kids getting to employable age has much to do about that increase, rather than any one particular President having a direct influence during his term.

    Unless 18 years ago he impregnated every eligible person in his home state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    I'm up over 100K in the last year and I didn't have to do a damn thing. MAGA?...you bet your ass.

    I'm not voting for any stinking Democrats, period. I can't understand how anyone with retirement savings wouldn't be thinking the same thing...yet they still want to beat him down.

    You and I seem to be in the same boat. I made more money last year then I made in the 4 previous years combined. If work and the economy continued at it's current pace I'll be set to retire comfortably at the end on Trumps first term. I have people literally standing at my door step offering me all the work we can handle. These are huge industrial projects costing ten's of millions that will each employ hundreds when brought on-line.

    My employee's all received a nice raise last year (first time in 4 years) and they also received a year end bonus equal to one month's wage, which was at least twice the size of any bonus received the previous 4 years. My employees have also had unlimited access to any overtime they wanted, again that's the first time in 8 years (and my guys are always begging for overtime when I have none).

    And yet I have one Brian type employee that prays at the temple of Obama and insists Trump is the devil in reincarnated,

    So I ask people like Brian, "how do you justify your position", I honestly want to know?

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