Global Warming? I don't know what to believe.

[oldno7]

Lots of facts and squiggly lines, for those so inclined..

http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/01/...te-scientists/

[oldno7]

nooo...

http://www.investors.com/politics/ed...oy-capitalism/

[oldno7]

chart, some like charts..

of course--this one only goes back 65 million years--purely anecdotal..

[oldno7]

Of course I don't have a dog in this fight

I think I'll go buy another diesel truck and see if I can help cut Utah down to 3 seasons.

I say--drive more--Winter sucks

[Slot Machine]

@oldno7

Reposting links without an opinion or analysis is not the same as providing content for Bogley. Some of those charts might have meaning if you had the ability to explain them.

Repotsing links by themselves just so boring. Please try harder.

*yawn

[oldno7]

^^
But you see--we've already done this ad naseum on other threads.

You don't have proof to convince me and I don't have proof to convince you...

skewed data and lying/bought out scientist, does not agw make

[Iceaxe]

^^^THIS^^^

The discussion on Bogley is just a microcosm of the world discussion.

@Slot Machine believes all his pie charts, graphs and power point presentation are absolutely correct and without fault and all of yours are pure male bovine excrement.

[rockgremlin]

I'm still trying to figure out Mr. Machine. Out of one side of his mouth he claims man is unequivocally responsible for global warming. And then out of the other side of his mouth he admits to the futility and hopelessness of the situation.

If it's hopeless, untwist your panties, take a deep breath, and go do summore canyons. And along the way have the peace of mind of knowing that although this planet may be hurling towards a toasty end, there is little we can do to stop it...least of all by arguing on Bogley.

[Slot Machine]

You don't have proof to convince me and I don't have proof to convince you...

If you provide peer-reviewed data, you could convince me. If you took a moment to explain your seemingly random links and charts, that would help too. Random links does not content make.

There are bought out and sold out scientists, I know. However, you can check studies and see. Generally, legitimate scientists throw quacks under the bus, so their careers are short-lived.

The discussion on Bogley is just a microcosm of how people talk when they don't understand how to interpret scientific data.

Fixed that for you.

Worldwide, people generally understand the data.

I'm still trying to figure out Mr. Machine. Out of one side of his mouth he claims man is unequivocally responsible for global warming. And then out of the other side of his mouth he admits to the futility and hopelessness of the situation.

Yes! What is happening and what we can do about it are two separate conversations.

To review, I'm saying out of all three sides of my mouth-
1. The climate is warming rapidly.
2. It is 100% our fault.
3. We probably can't do anything about it, because people love burning fossil fuel.

You totally get me bruh! *hugs*

[rockgremlin]

[oldno7]

In past posts, I've posted many peer reviewed papers that dispel your myth.

Peer reviewed only means that each person reviewing received a $25,000 free grant.

many to go around for all sides.

If you think "science" is free of politics--your delusional--oh, wait, never mind!

[rockgremlin]

Remember when John Kerry dropped this bomb? (Speaking in Paris last April)


“The fact is that even if every American citizen biked to work, carpooled to school, used only solar panels to power their homes, if we each planted a dozen trees, if we somehow eliminated all of our domestic greenhouse gas emissions, guess what – that still wouldn’t be enough to offset the carbon pollution coming from the rest of the world.

“If all the industrial nations went down to zero emissions – remember what I just said, all the industrial emissions went down to zero emissions – it wouldn’t be enough, not when more than 65 percent of the world’s carbon pollution comes from the developing world.”

[oldno7]

heres a paper for our little man

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21604895

[rockgremlin]

New Rule. This discussion can only be continued using cartoons.

[Iceaxe]

Worldwide, people generally understand the data.

Again you fall back to your standard defence of mixing facts and bullshit.... you are correct in the fact people generally understand the data... but again you miss the fact that people generally interpret the data differently.

[twotimer]

heres a paper for our little man

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21604895

Oh, for cryin' out loud...I really did NOT want to see that!

[oldno7]

https://nsf.gov/oig/case-closeout/A13030037.pdf

https://nsf.gov/oig/case-closeout/A13070076.pdf

Don't get me wrong--Science is a great asset to civilization but as great as it can/could be,it is significantly lessened my people who are chasing dollars instead of sound/un desputable science and scientific facts the leave no wiggle room for the term "settled science".

[Scott P]

https://nsf.gov/oig/case-closeout/A13030037.pdf

https://nsf.gov/oig/case-closeout/A13070076.pdf

Don't get me wrong--Science is a great asset to civilization but as great as it can/could be,it is significantly lessened my people who are chasing dollars instead of sound/un desputable science and scientific facts the leave no wiggle room for the term "settled science".

This is an honest question.

Do you really think that all scientists who believe in Global Warming are only doing so for more money and that it is all a world wide conspiracy to destroy capitalism by providing clean air? For most weather and climate researchers, Global Warming is only a tiny percentage of what climatologists and meteorologists research.

It seems that if money were the only motivation for the conspiracy, they would go to the oil companies or other rich industries, and come up with a better/scarier theory, since that is much more lucrative business.

[oldno7]

Don't believe in conspiracy theories..(generally)

Do believe that there is enough evidence of fraud in the scientific community to doubt their "settled science"

the earth has warmed, the earth has cooled, I doubt anyone here and mostly you, have curtailed their outdoor activities to accommodate agw speculation.

If Scott P. was worried about it--his global footprint wouldn't be one of the size to dwarf godzilla. (godzilla is real, isn't it?)

If your not worried--I'm not worried

[Slot Machine]

Do believe that there is enough evidence of fraud in the scientific community to doubt their "settled science.

Please provide this evidence.

If you post a link, please provide:

1: A link to a reputable source. Discussing mediocre references is a waste of time.

2. A brief explanation of your link.

3. Your opinion of your link. The audience can't and won't come to your conclusion for you.

Thanks.