The Super Amazing Canyoneering Map now lives on my blog.
Click here to use the interactive map and download the newest version.
I encourage every canyoneer to freely share their knowledge without reservation.
Bob Allan
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The Super Amazing Canyoneering Map now lives on my blog.
Click here to use the interactive map and download the newest version.
I encourage every canyoneer to freely share their knowledge without reservation.
Bob Allan
This map has been approved by Bogley. We value the free flow of information and beta. Bogley encourages members to contribute to this thread in a positive manner, all negative comments or attacks will be moved to a separate thread.
Quite a few locations there! Beta and Maps are two different things. People will disagree, however. And personally, I'm okay with a map like this. People can know where the trailhead is - however, how many rappels, potholes, lengths, difficult, mae-westing, etc. is an entirely different beast (which isn't provided here).
It will be interesting to see how the community reacts.
I like it. :nod:
Who? Me? Biased? Naah
Did you try your data file as a KML?
Doing so would let people zoom in and then click Menu ==> Label On/Off
All the names would then appear on the map.
Are you the same Joseph that designed Gmap4?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph
If so, your software rocks. :hail2thechief:
Would you mind giving those of us that are less savy a quick tutorial on how to get a .kml file into Google Sites then into Gmap4?
Bob
It's great software indeed. Here's his thread, it might help to keep focus on the canyoneering waypoints in this thread:Quote:
Originally Posted by Slot Machine
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...)-to-your-post
Looks like a very interesting map. I can't wait to spend some time looking around in it. :2thumbs:
Holy....... :eek2::eek2::eek2:
This thing is amazing, you put a lot of work into this and it really shows. Great job man!
Oh the humanity! Does this mean that I get all the benefits of being in the club now, but without joining the club? I like it!
OK one more tip then we'll get back to discussing the data:
If you select "Earth", you'll be able to view these in Google Earth mode. You'll first be required to install a teeny tiny browser plugin. If you've previously installed the plugin and you see this message, just hit continue and you'll be on your way:
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And the result:
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Thanks Slot Machine for getting this started... I have spent some time looking through your map, and am intrigued to see where this goes. You have put a lot of effort into this, yet there still seems to be a ways to go. There are several things mislabeled or labeled in an inconsistent manner. My intention is not to criticize, but to better understand your vision for this map. In an effort to the community providing you proper input: Who will decide and what will be the criteria for deciding if something is deemed worthy? Is your intention to mark the entry point of canyons, the trail head or mid-canyon (It appears there is some of each)?
To show good faith, I will point out 1 thing that has been labeled incorrectly: Woodruff canyon is labeled as Swett Canyon. Swett Creek is found here:37
hehe. Are you a canyoneer too? I thought you were mainly a hiker?Quote:
Originally Posted by uintahiker
The "Loosest" Slots in Vegas Machine: you might find this link helpful too. This was created by a great member here - @stefan. The Map is about 6 MB, but it contains a LOT of useful names with a good U.I.
The biggest advantage to this map I have noted so far is it allows users to see which canyons are neighbors. This should help those unfamilair with an area put together a weekend combo package.
Hell yeah! Thanks for creating and sharing this map, looks like an awesome resource.
I think "Super Amazing Canyoneering Map" was the best choice for the title haha.
On another note, boooooooo to the Admin for moving negative posts to another thread. If you truly value the free flow of information here at Bogley, then let everyone post what they like and don't remove the post (unless its blatantly harassing or inappropriate or whatever).
[QUOTE=PG Rob;487624]Quote:
Originally Posted by PG Rob
[FONT=Verdana]To show good faith, I will point out 1 thing that has been labeled incorrectly: Woodruff canyon is labeled as Swett Canyon. Swett Creek is found here:37
Very nice! And I agree with Iceaxe that it is really nice to see how the canyon systems fit together. On a different note, I've taken to looking at Bing Maps aerial imagery as well as Google lately. I've found it to be better in the areas I have looked at (not many yet). In any case, may be worth checking as a second source of info when trying to do detailed canyon scouting/planning.
-john
[Note: I like the idea of collecting points on all publicly available beta'd canyons, both print and web... but I'm not too keen on the (?) and (??) guesses.]
Here's one to add to the map
Tent Rocks Slot Canyon 35
We think this is a super idea, Thanks for the hard work on it. For us who are newer to the community, it really helps in just knowing where certain canyons are and makes it easier to locate them when we see some mention of them without detail as to location. We'll use it for planning purposes, I'm sure. And for those worried about the canyons being overrun by every canyon-bagger out there, maybe a resource like this will help spread out the traffic once people can more easily see in a visual way where these canyons are located and how many there are. :nod:
Slot Machine, If/when you make improvements or additions to your map I would suggest you revised the map in the first post over posting a new map each time. You can do this simply by clicking -> Edit -> Advanced, and than locating the Manage Attachments option. That way members will not have to wade through pages of posts to find the latest updated map. When you update the map you can post something like the "map in the original post has been updated to version 2.1" or whatever, which will bump the thread and let everyone know that there is a new revision to the map.
This is just a suggestion, we have used this approach with Bogley-fests in the past with excellent results.
:nod: Good Idea, will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
[QUOTE=uintahiker;487651]Here's one to add to the map
Tent Rocks Slot Canyon 35
Very cool, nice work. I made a map similar to this back in like 2006 if it helps you out at all. It included links to online beta or page numbers for beta in the old Kelsey guide. It was posted in what was called the "Members only" section. It was a section created by the "UUTAH" guys (before they changed the site to BOGLEY) to encourage people to sign up and make usernames rather than browse the site as guests. Now it may be in the bigshot section? I don't know, it tells me I don't have permission to view it but maybe it will work for some of you. This should be the link, if it works for someone, feel free to attach the .kml file to this post:
http://uutah.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5983
EDIT: I found the file on my hard drive, it includes both Canyons and hikes. It however gives away the location of some of the ruins and panels in the Members section of Climb-Utah.com. I remember Shane giving me permission to post it in the Members only section of the old UUTAH, but I'll hold off posting it here in case he is opposed to it. I can probably send it to you Slot Machine, it includes the locations of a bunch of canyons in the Pacific Northwest that would be nice to add to your map.
Yeah, it's in the Big Shot section. I forgot about your work for that one Eric. Great job on it! Maybe it's time for a merge.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaggy125
Thanks man, this is an awesome extra piece of candy you are providing me with, to prepare my upcoming holiday.
Loaded in both Google earth, and as well on my mobile GPS.
Thanks !!!!
ELITESTS!!!! :facepalm1:Quote:
Originally Posted by jman
Perhaps you should 'occupy' the BigShot section! Occupying IS the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
I believe the word you're looking for is "elitists". (Nothing but love Tom; we all know that you wouldn't let that one go if one of us said it.)Quote:
Originally Posted by ratagonia
Many people are aware of Shaggy's map and it is really, really good. One way it is different from my map is that it contains a significant amount of info on canyon art and ruins.
While creating The Map, Shaggy's map was shared with me. I was informed about the reasoning behind keeping Shaggy's map in the member's only area. The concerned individual wanted to protect ruins and canyon art from vandals (understandable). Simply posting Shaggy's map on the internet would almost certainly increase the incidence of theft and vandalism at those locations.
My vision is to create a general map intended for canyoneers. No ruins, no landmarks, no specific beta, no arch bagging- just canyon locations.
I think leaving Shaggy's map in the members only area is a wise move.
Kind of like using a spell checker is a wise move. :haha:
:rockit::banana:Check out the top of this thread for the updated Super Amazing Map 3. :rock::party:
Bob
interesting how protective some can be about information being posted on bogley.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaggy125
Spelling wurds correctly is elitest blather!!!! :moses:Quote:
Originally Posted by xxnitsuaxx
Map question-
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does anybody know anything about this area?
I read somewhere that the above canyons are called, Galucoma, Sinuitis and Earache? Help?
Also,
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I believe this is Escalatte, I've seen several photos of it but am not certain that this is the location. Help?
Bob
The canyons in the first picture you asked about are on Shane's site.
I'll leave it up to Shaggy as to where he wants his map to reside. If he wants it moved to canyoneering I'll be happy to move it for him (just PM me). I've always considered what people want to share, and how and where they share it, to be a personal choice/dilemma.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaggy125
More beta for the Dante's was published today. For those playing along at home, these are the confirmed names of each canyon:
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Getting that question answered was a LOT of work. :phew: They will be included in Version 4.
The questions about map 1 above (warm springs) have also been answered and will be published with Version 4.
Thanks to everyone that is contributing to The Map.
Bob
Great map. If interested in adding canyons in the NW:
http://www.canyoneeringnorthwest.com/index.html
Erik
When I posted it I seem to remember it was decided to keep it in the members only section so it wouldn't be searchable in Google for anyone in the world to find, something like that. Unless something's changed I'm fine with it staying there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
What do you have to be a member of to get access to this "members only" data? Climb-Utah?
I believe that's a bogley big shot section. They have a donation you can make to bogley and you get access to that stuff. I think it costs like $50 bucks or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audilard
I think he's referring to the Bogley BigShots area. Like Iceaxe said, we'll move it out to the public if shaggy would like us to. Or like he said, he's got the files in his possession and he is free to post them up / embed the google map at any time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audilard
A side note, Google Maps will only show a limited amount of waypoints at a time, I think it might be 100. That's why we had to use the Gmap4 on Bob's map, as it will show them all in the same shot.
Back in the old days the moderators created a "Members Only" section. I could be wrong, but if I remember right, they created it to encourage lurkers to actually make up usernames and log in when they browse the site rather than browse anonymously. All you had to have was a username and be logged in to access the members only section. Didn't have to pay anything. I posted a map similar to Slot Machines but it included links to climb-utah, or toms site, etc... to give beta on the waypoint. It included a bunch of ruins and rock art sites that I got from being a member of climb-utah.com. Before I posted my map, I emailed Shane and asked what he thought. I made the map for myself but was willing to share it with everyone but didn't want to give away locations of stuff that I only knew about because of being a member of his site. He replied that it was ok to post the map, but requested I put it in the memebers only section, since this section could not be accessed by search engine bots and the sensitive ruins and petroglyph info would be harder to access by the world outside of Bogley.Quote:
Originally Posted by Audilard
Later, the moderators came up with the bigshot idea, asking people to donate money to help cover the costs of the increasing internet traffic the site gets. In exchange you would get access to exclusive content in the bigshot sections. The old Members Only section apparently became part of the bigshot section and you now have to pay to have access to it, make sense? If you want a copy of the file, PM me and I'll send it to you, that way bogleyites still have access but it's not searchable with google and everyone is happy. Or become a bigshot and have access to it and other stuff.