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OMG :lol8:
Hopefully it won't be too much longer here and the gov. in Iran will hit the skids. If N.K. follows hot on it's heels then maybe Trump will end up getting a nice, easy plate of foreign policy served up.
Would'nt that be something? The two gnarliest regimes in the world caving in on themselves.
IDK...I'm pretty encouraged. I think we're in pretty good shape 25 years after the collapse of the old world order when all these nations were left to fend for themselves...only two of them stayed completely off the rails and both are in poor shape. The world may indeed be a better place in the years to come.
This will be must see TV.Quote:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
I will be announcing THE MOST DISHONEST & CORRUPT MEDIA AWARDS OF THE YEAR on Monday at 5:00 o’clock. Subjects will cover Dishonesty & Bad Reporting in various categories from the Fake News Media. Stay tuned!
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About frickin' time....
Trump tells the Palestinians to show up for peace talks or the US is cutting off their millions in aid.
It's nice to again finally have a President with big brass balls. Regan is the last president we had with a set.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...alk-peace.html
Finally a can't miss awards show....
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2.1 million jobs added in 2017. Unemployment rate drops to 4.7%. Average hourly wage rose 2.5%. Unemployment rate for African Americans hits an all time record low of 6.8%. The DJIA sets a record high 71 times. That's a pretty good year anyway you want to slice it.
Trump promised to be the greatest jobs president ever and so far he is on track.
And all the while Democrats run around screaming the sky is falling.
#MAGA
Nah, he's not on track, he's still lagging behind Barry. Jobs added per month have gone down. Percent increase in the stock market hasn't exceeded Barry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Remember when BHO took over from Bush and what the stock market and jobs outlook was like? Was in the dumpster.
Trump took over a healthy economy from a president who had more influence over it. He's still riding that wave that he didn't create. But now all those fake job reports numbers are real (ha ha) and he has a bigger button on his desk. The lemmings love this guy.
As soon as the campaign team had stepped into the White House, Walsh saw, it had gone from managing Trump to the expectation of being managed by him. Yet the president, while proposing the most radical departure from governing and policy norms in several generations, had few specific ideas about how to turn his themes and vitriol into policy. And making suggestions to him was deeply complicated. Here, arguably, was the central issue of the Trump presidency, informing every aspect of Trumpian policy and leadership: He didn’t process information in any conventional sense. He didn’t read. He didn’t really even skim. Some believed that for all practical purposes he was no more than semi-*literate. He trusted his own expertise *— no matter how paltry or irrelevant — more than anyone else’s. He was often confident, but he was just as often paralyzed, less a savant than a figure of sputtering and dangerous insecurities, whose instinctive response was to lash out and behave as if his gut, however confused, was in fact in some clear and forceful way telling him what to do. It was, said Walsh, “like trying to figure out what a child wants.”
Typical liberal.... "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
I will agree that Obama inherited a dumpster fire, but standing on the balcony pissing on it was not a great solution. Obama was the first president to never hit 3% growth. Obama never understood what it took to get business booming.
The basic question voters ask themselves when going to the polls is "am I better off today then 4 years ago". I know very few people that can't answer yes if that question were asked today.
Barry did a hell of a lot more than piss on the fire. And, business was booming, despite your short term memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
What remains to be seen, is, the downstream effect of Trump's undoing of all that "stuff".
We'll see in a few years, but, you're right...basic question...better off now? Hard to argue with happiness.
"Biden also suggested that Trump is unable to understand what he's dealing with — "this is not a business deal," he said, referring to Trump's past in real estate. "This is not who builds the next skyscraper." He wouldn't comment on whether he thinks Trump is fit for office, but did say Trump's approach to the presidency "erodes those invisible elements of citizenship that sort of are the buoyancy for what makes this nation so special. It's less his policies than the way he conducts [himself], how unpresidential he is.""
All good news, but it seems that the average hourly wage should have gone up more than 2.5% though. This seems low considering the economic boom.Quote:
2.1 million jobs added in 2017. Unemployment rate drops to 4.7%. Average hourly wage rose 2.5%. Unemployment rate for African Americans hits an all time record low of 6.8%. The DJIA sets a record high 71 times. That's a pretty good year anyway you want to slice it.
And, really, no different than wage increase under Barry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott P
https://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/50860...en-in-8-charts
http://www.businessinsider.com/obama...arm-payrolls-1
Brian... Let's come at this from a different direction. Do you honestly believe Obama will go down in history as a good president?
And we're not comparing him to Trump as it's impossible to rate a president after the first year of a 4 or 8 year run.
Personally I believe history will eventually place Obama somewhere below the 50% line. Somewhere down in the Jimmy Carter and Bush 2 realm. Obama has no major accomplishments that will last. He did change the direction of healthcare, but his signature accomplishment (Affordable Care Act) has pretty much been torpedoed. He left the middle East a shit storm (Bush 2 helped). Race relations went backwards 20 years under Obama. I do give him credit for doing a descent job of pulling us out of the Bush 2 economic dumpster fire. He certainly didn't make it worse, but his numerous regulations didn't help.
Anyhoo... enquiring minds want to know.
I'm up over 100K in the last year and I didn't have to do a damn thing. MAGA?...you bet your ass.
I'm not voting for any stinking Democrats, period. I can't understand how anyone with retirement savings wouldn't be thinking the same thing...yet they still want to beat him down.
If this had happened when the last guy was there, then I'd probably be a fan. But it didn't, and what is even more important is that it's very likely to get even better. Personally, I feel more optimistic now that I have since the end of '08.
All this side show stuff is irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Since the US population is in the region of 320 million then I'd suggest that natural deaths, births, retirements, occasional & regional variations, a few hurricanes & tornadoes and natural expansion of population and a lot of kids getting to employable age has much to do about that increase, rather than any one particular President having a direct influence during his term.
Unless 18 years ago he impregnated every eligible person in his home state.
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Originally Posted by twotimer
You and I seem to be in the same boat. I made more money last year then I made in the 4 previous years combined. If work and the economy continued at it's current pace I'll be set to retire comfortably at the end on Trumps first term. I have people literally standing at my door step offering me all the work we can handle. These are huge industrial projects costing ten's of millions that will each employ hundreds when brought on-line.
My employee's all received a nice raise last year (first time in 4 years) and they also received a year end bonus equal to one month's wage, which was at least twice the size of any bonus received the previous 4 years. My employees have also had unlimited access to any overtime they wanted, again that's the first time in 8 years (and my guys are always begging for overtime when I have none).
And yet I have one Brian type employee that prays at the temple of Obama and insists Trump is the devil in reincarnated,
So I ask people like Brian, "how do you justify your position", I honestly want to know?
Liberal Mainstream media will never give Trump credit... but well done sir.
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Yeah, I think Obama will go down in history as a "good" president. Not even counting how low the bar is right now (ha ha). On an aside, did you see Barry's summer reading and music list? Wow. Nice retirement. I can't believe he likes band the National...Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
What was interesting and a bit eye opening to me (as one who "drank the koolaid), was the couple of PBS Frontline shows on the Obama presidency. Plenty to be critical of. And, some things I hadn't considered. So, fake news liberal media PBS aside, seemed to be a fair reporting on "things".
Its not always fluffy bunnies when you move the country in a good direction. But, that he did. We took a fair step forward. Now? Seems like we're going backward.
Here’s your crack, on-the-job commander in chief and hisfocus:Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
Michael Wolff is atotal loser who made up stories in order to sell this really boring anduntruthful book. He used Sloppy Steve Bannon, who cried when he got fired andbegged for his job. Now Sloppy Steve has been dumped like a dog by almosteveryone. Too bad!
I’m sure tweets like the above continue to help him beconsidered in high regard not only in the US, but, around the world. Ugh.
Let’s take your Obama chart point by point:
Labor participation rate? Makes sense that it’s low (baby boomer bubble aging out of the workforce),but, what does that mean?
https://qz.com/286213/the-chart-obama-haters-love-most-and-the-truth-behind-it/
Apples to apples, what does Trump’s first term look like forlabor participation rate? It slid from62.9 to 62.7.So, getting worse?Trump’s fault?I wouldn’t think so.Just like it wasn’t Obama’s fault either.
95 million out of thelabor force?I think it’s called “retirement”.
Here’s the breakdown of that 95 million:
http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/03/news/economy/trump-95-million-people-not-in-the-labor-force/index.html
Again, if you want to hang your hat on that number, then,end of December 2016, 95.006 million out of the workforce. December 2017:95.512.Blame Trump for more people out of the work force?Well, we could, but, we know he just didn’thave that much influence on it.Exceptmaybe those 600+ folks at Carrier who’s jobs got outsourced to Mexico.You know, in the “Art of the Deal”.
Worst recovery sincethe 1940’s?Yeah, right.Seems like I hear folks crowing about doingsoooo poorly that they’ll retire at the end of Trump’s term.Maybe the longest recovery.And, I think, slow and steady wins therace.Also, depends on what you measure.I hear some folks are turning away work….how’sthat the worst recovery?
Lowest home ownershipin 50 years?Geez, when did thebubble pop?End of 2016 was 63.9%.Last measured at 63.9%?So, no big uptick during Trump’s first year.Looking at the trends…hit a high of 69.2% in2004.I think that’s the all time high.Slid from the bubble pop at 67%-ish to present.What’s also slid?Older folks.The 65 years and older crowd.Less of them as a percentage live in an owner occupied home.Hmmm.
Interesting spin on why the lower rate is a good thing:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-the-decline-of-the-homeownership-rate-is-good-news/2016/08/03/c6b8bf7c-58d1-11e6-9767-f6c947fd0cb8_story.html?utm_term=.535702e45dd2
One trend that seems great is home equity is on therise. Those of us in Sandy Utah that gothit with a big (over 25% for me) increase to our property taxes feel this “growth”.Ha ha.Nice that so many folks aren’t so under water.I give some credit to Barry’s admin for someof the regulations in place following the bubble burst.As some of those protections are scrapped,will the bubble return?Too soon totell.Glad I bought a house a few yearsback (thanks Obama!).
Food stamps…blameTrump for the huge spike in September 2017?Hardly.SNAP benefits have beenon the decline since 2013.Greattrend.Be interesting to see if thecurrent administration cuts SNAP benefits.Trump is a huge opponent of SNAP.
Poverty Rate.Has fallen from 2014.From the census folks, here’s the deets:
§ The official poverty rate in 2016 was 12.7percent, down 0.8 percentage points from 13.5 percent in 2015. This isthe second consecutive annual decline in poverty. Since 2014, the poverty ratehas fallen 2.1 percentage points from 14.8 percent to 12.7 percent.
§ In 2016 there were 40.6 million people inpoverty, 2.5 million fewer than in 2015 and 6.0 million fewer than in 2014.
§ The poverty rate in 2016 (12.7 percent) wasnot significantly higher than the poverty rate in 2007 (12.5 percent), the yearbefore the most recent recession.
§ No demographic group included in Table 3experienced an increase in its poverty rate between 2015 and 2016.
§ For most demographic groups, the number ofpeople in poverty decreased from 2015. Adults aged 65 and older were the onlypopulation group shown in Table 3 to experience an increase in the number ofpeople in poverty.
§ Between 2015 and 2016,the poverty rate for children under age 18 declined from 19.7 to 18.0 percent.The poverty rate for adults aged 18-64 declined from 12.4 to 11.6 percent. Thepoverty rate for adults aged 65 and older was 9.3 percent in 2016, notstatistically different from the rate in 2015.
So, what will the poverty rate do under Trump? I bet it pops up.And, because of his admin and not in spite ofit.Removing the ACA mandate.Killing grants for signing people up forinsurance.We’ll see when the numberscome in, but, my bet in 2017 and forward, the poverty rate in the US willincrease.
Has it really been a year? Good grief...time flies when you're having fun...
It's like he's actually doing what's good for our country.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Sombeech
And liberals hate that.....
It's easy now for me to see we shall never agree on this as in my book Obama took the country in the wrong direction and really set us back. The guy was everything I despise in a leader. He was weak, soft and lead from behind. So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.Quote:
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Thanks for playing.
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This is one area where I will agree with Trump. I have always been against supporting and arming Pakistan (or at least since forming an opinion on the matter a few decades ago).Quote:
Originally Posted by oldno7
When the Taliban harbored Bin Laden after the 9/11 attacks, only two countries still recognized that Taliban as the rightful rulers of Afghanistan. Those two countries were Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
Even so, it was Bush who vastly increased aid to Pakistan after 9/11. The aid dropped way down after Obama was elected and stayed lower until 2009 when it was increased again (peaking in 2011), but then decreased greatly in 2014 and 2016. Pakistan has still never denounced the Taliban. They still maintain a relationship with the Taliban while accepting US aid.
Concur on all points. Obama was weak on all aspects of leadership.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceaxe
So...much...winning...
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...er-job-n836261
LMAO.... The loss of 214 jobs at Carrier is the best you can do? We need to get you a job at CNN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
1.7 million jobs have been added under Trump. That's 208,000 a month. It's been over 20 years since we've seems numbers that good.
Scoreboard: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/tru...ncy-2017-12-08
Feel free to stop by again when you have something that amounts to more than whining like a little bitch.
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Hot young stripper wife? Dude...you need to bump up your game...
http://video.foxnews.com/v/571091722...#sp=show-clips
"The Porn President"...the hits just keep on coming. Here's some more drivel from another one of them lib-tard rags:
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...tar-payoff-why
A liberal that is now concerned with what consenting adults do behind closed doors?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian in SLC
You make me laugh... where was the outrage when slick Willy was shoving his cigars up the young lady's snatch?
Try again, come back when you actually have something that affects me. In the mean time I'll be trying to figure out how to get all the work walking through my front door done. While also watching my IRA and stock portfolio skyrocket.
Let's talk about the $6 trillion dollars in wealth created under Trump, now that's something that actually affects me. Do you have any clue how many hookers and how much blow $6 trillion dollars buys?
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