Corner Canyon Conditions

[accadacca]

I'm going to do a loop after work. Which trails are rideable? Anyone want to come along?

[Iceaxe]

All the north facing trails are muddy and closed. All the south facing trails are open. There is plenty to ride but you must choose wisely.

Start at the equestrian center, up to BST, take Rattle up to ghost falls, come down ghost falls north trail (or back down rattle), down pipe line and back to the EQ. You can add BST out to bear canyon and back if you want more. Also the upper CC road is dry.

I'll be riding in CC today at noon and I'll post if more is open, but I doubt it as last weeks storm closed much of what was dry. Tuesday all the north facing trails still had 6" of snow on them. Rattle is the one dependable trail that dries fast and is usually rideable

[accadacca]

Great info!

[accadacca]

So the BST on the north end that connects rattler must be good? It's lower...

[Iceaxe]

BST from the lower CC road, to the upper road, and out to Bear Canyon are all dry.

On tuesday Creek View was too muddy to ride, but I'm hoping that it's dry today as I use it as my return route to get back to the EQ. I never ride DOWN the lower road if I can help it.

[accadacca]

Coolness. Let me know what you find out today. I'm sure you have used TrailForks. I love it.

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[Iceaxe]

Creek View is now open and no longer muddy. Everything else I posted is correct.

South facing trails are dry. North facing trails are muddy and closed. Everything above ghost falls is closed

Rattle is currently the must do trail on whatever loop you put together.

[accadacca]

Tks for the info. I had a nice ride tonight.

[Iceaxe]

Lots of stuff opened up today. Lower canyon hollow is now open. Ghost falls up to the ghost falls/Jacobs ladder TH is now open. Lower rush is open. Maybe more.

[accadacca]

I heard Ann's might be too. I'll be up there later today. :ride:

[Iceaxe]

I did two loops today from the Equestrian Center to Ghost Falls. I rode it this morning and when I got home my daughter said she would have went if she had of known so I told her to grab her gear and I'd ride it again with her. It wasn't too crowded for the first loop but literally everyone and their dog was up there when I did the second loop.

If Ann's is open it will still be muddy at the top. Upper Canyon Hollow will be a quagmire. Upper rush will have some muddy spots. I hate getting into mud because it's so hard on equipment.

[accadacca]

Mud sucks. I'm sure it's a circus up there today...

[accadacca]

Ann's is still kinda muddy in one section. Needs 3 or 4 days. Canyon Hollow isn't bad. Lotta mushy spots on several trails. Really slows you down.

[double moo]

Rolled Rush last night. I expected some mud but it was dry, except for a three foot spot in the top third. Great grip and fast right now!

[Iceaxe]

Everything in Corner Canyon is now dry and in great shape. Over the past week I've ridden every trail in the canyon at least once.

[tallsteve]

Awesome! I've been putting in some pretty hefty miles and elevation gain on the road bike (the last 30 days: 573 miles - 36,444' elevation gain). Time to hit the dirt!

[Iceaxe]

Ditto on the mileage and elevation. The last two days I've actually been doing laps in Corner Canyon. :stud:

Tuesday - Start at the EQ, up Canyon Hollow to the top, down Rush to it's bottom, up BST to the Upper Corner Canyon Road, up the road to Jacobs Ladder TH, down Ghost Falls, Down Rattle, Down BST, Down Creek View to the EQ.

Wednesday - Start at the EQ, up Ann's to the top, down Brocks, down Ghost Falls, down Rattle, up BST,up BST to the Upper Corner Canyon Road, Up the road to the rattle cut-off, down to Canyon Hollow, Down Canyon Hollow, Down Creek View to the EQ.

[tallsteve]

I pedaled my Maple Leaf loop yesterday afternoon- South Maple Hollow to Maple Hollow to Ann's West to Ann's East to Eagle Crest Connector to Eagle Crest to South Maple Hollow. No real mud anywhere to speak of but a bit slimy in spots where the sun never shines on Maple Hollow and Ann's West. Lots and lots of ruts (more than I've ever see before!) on those 2 trails from folks riding when it was muddy. Felt good to back on dirt even though I have a love/hate relationship with CC.

[accadacca]

Is it too windy to ride tonight? Nah...

[accadacca]

How dicked up did the trails get? When can I ride them again?

[Iceaxe]

Rattle will probably be good tomorrow, I'll let you know. Everything north facing has snow on it right now.

[Iceaxe]

Everything in Corner Canyon is dry and good to ride.

[accadacca]

Yep! I did a big loop today. Little windy, but an awesome day.

[accadacca]

The weather didn't take long to screw up the trails again. I wonder how long it will take?

[Taylor]

I was able to sneak a ride in yesterday just before the storm. Most of the trails were of course dry and dusty. All the snow will be melted by Saturday probably. Most of the canyon will be good early next week with the north facing shady spots taking a couple extra days. Forecast has highs around 80 most of next week.

[Iceaxe]

Rattle to Ghost Falls is dry. North Ghost Falls is dry, Gas Line is dry, Upper Road is dry. Creek View is dry. Everything else still has lots of snow and mud.

I did two laps today from the EQ up to Ghost Falls using different combinations of the dry trails listed above.

DON'T RIDE ON MUDDY TRAILS!

Some of the other stuff MIGHT be dry by Sunday.

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[accadacca]

Tks for the info. I'll give it until next week.

[Iceaxe]

Everything is drying really fast. The Ghost Falls trail is good all the way up to the Jacob's Ladder/Ghost Falls Trailhead. There is a good chance everything will be dry tomorrow (Sunday). Canyon Hollow is now dry up to Ghost Falls, but gets muddy after that.

[whansen]

Just came down Rush. It looked good. It started sprinkling at the top and was a little windy. But was still a great ride.

[Sombeech]

DON'T RIDE ON MUDDY TRAILS!


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[Iceaxe]

Corner Canyon is currently under a couple inches of snow, I'll update as the trails dry out.

[accadacca]

I'm hoping it is clear by Thursday...

[double moo]

Headed up Corner Canyon Road today to take a look and get a few miles in. When I got to the first parking lot everyone that was passing me (I'm slow) was taking the BST trail instead of the road. I followed, and pedaled it all the way to Ghost falls, passing one 12" puddle. I figured it would be OK there but not elsewhere - as the east side typically is. None of the riders who had passed me came back down... so when I hit the GHost Falls bridge i continued. I peeled off and hit Canyon Hollow, from the bridge to Rush I hit anoter 8-10 mud pudles, only 2 of which I had to go through instead of around. The trail was very dried out with great traction. When I hit the bottom at the Equestrian Center I headed under the tunnel as usual... The creek was out of it's banks at the far end causing 6" of running water that you had to roll through... but it wasn'y muddy. With the increasing temps it will just get better, by tomorrow afternoon I would think all of the trails would be wide open.

If you do encounter mud... work around it and don't dick it up for the rest of us!

[Iceaxe]

Corner Canyon is dry and all trails are open.

[accadacca]

Is it going to be too muddy tonight?

[tallsteve]

I just got back from trying to ride some. Pedaled up South Maple Hollow and ran into sticky, slimy mud a couple hundred yards from the top so, I headed back. I'd guess Maple Hollow is a no go. I've heard that some of the eastern stuff is just fine and got mostly missed by the rain.

[Iceaxe]

Rattle is currently in great shape, it starts to get muddy above there. It should be dry tomorrow. Also they are holding a mtb race from 6-8 tonight so I'd find somewhere else to ride tonight.

[accadacca]

I got this too late...about the race. What a circus at the EQ parking!

I drove over to coyote and it was quiet, so I rode up clarks, jacobs ladder, then took the dirt road to brocks, then rush. Mostly dry trails or a little wet and tacky in the trees. No mud. Great conditions.

I was grabbing Subway near the Harmons off bangerter, when the rain started. Heavy rain on I-15 between bangerter and 114, then west to my house.

[accadacca]

It's raining again at my work on the west side...damn.

[Iceaxe]

I was peddling from ghost falls to Jacobs Ladder when the storm hit, the trail turned to instant mud.

[accadacca]

Well...I'm glad that I have a couple trainers at home and a gym at work. It might be a while...

[Iceaxe]

Pussy... I'll be pounding the upper road tomorrow.

[Iceaxe]

I rode Corner Canyon yesterday and everything is open. Personally I'd avoid Rush for another day as it contains it's usual after storm mud holes.

And I'd like to kick the asshats who rode Ann's while it was muddy right square in the nuts.

[double moo]

I rode Corner Canyon yesterday and everything is open. Personally I'd avoid Rush for another day as it contains it's usual after storm mud holes.

And I'd like to kick the asshats who rode Ann's while it was muddy right square in the nuts.

Can we all line up and take a turn?

[accadacca]

I'm trying to switch to mornings...which means I need to start getting to bed at a decent hour.

[tallsteve]

I understand Rush is undergoing some major trail reconstruction so consider other trails in your ride planning.

[Iceaxe]

Use caution on the Jacobs Ladder DH. From what I understand someone constructed some unapproved obstacles which are dangerous. They life flighted a kid off the mountain last night that was unaware someone altered the track. Collapsed lung, broken ribs and other serious injuries.

[accadacca]

Yikes. A buddy was up there and told me he saw a ton of cops, etc.

[whansen]

We were up there Monday. It looked like from the color of the dirt there was some freshly made jumps. This is some screen shots of it.
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[tallsteve]

Reports are that since the bad accident, other mtn. bikers have removed or dumb'd down the newly created jumps.

[Iceaxe]

FYI- The Draper Trails Committee is the group responsible for building and maintaining the trails. I usually volunteer a couple days a year to help out.

[tallsteve]

FYI- The Draper Trails Committee is the group responsible for building and maintaining the trails. I usually volunteer a couple days a year to help out.

These 'additions' weren't done by Draper City and most of Jacob's is on Forest Service land. Rogue trail builders.

[Iceaxe]

These 'additions' weren't done by Draper City and most of Jacob's is on Forest Service land. Rogue trail builders.
Correct... a couple of my riding partners are on the Draper Trails Committee and were the ones that first informed me about the rogue modifications. Also a warning went out to the CCHS MTB team of which I help coach.

[Iceaxe]

Heads up - Rush is closed at the mid mountain rest down to Canyon Hollow connect. They are sending you down the old road which is boring and sucks. This detour cuts out about 1/4 of Rush Trail. I don't know how long it will be closed or what they are doing but I'll guess a couple of days.

[Iceaxe]

I was riding BST between Bear Canyon and Corner Canyon this morning and what do I discover? They are building a suspension bridge over Bear Canyon. This isn't some little candyass bridge. This sucker is going to be a work of art. It will have a span of approximately 300' and have a height of about 100'. The concrete abutments and anchors are in place and they were getting ready to install the towers. Next up will be stringing the suspension cables. If you look carefully in the picture you can see they already have a red guide line strung across the canyon so they can begin stringing the cables when ready. In the photo my bike is parked at the south abutment and you can see the north one if you look across the canyon. This is really cool.

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[accadacca]

Wow! That's quite the project. It'll be Disneyland soon. How do I get a fastpass?

[Iceaxe]

Today the towers are up.

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[accadacca]

Wow, where the hell is bear canyon?

[accadacca]

How are the trails?

[Iceaxe]

Wow, where the hell is bear canyon?
On BST between Draper and Sandy. Look at my Strava tracks for the past two days and it's easy to figure out.

My Strava tracks will also show you what trails are dry and ridable. Mosy the CC trails are mud but several of the seldom ridden north side trails are dry. Quail Trail, Saddled, Orsen Spencer Downhill, are all dry and can be configured into some entertaining loops.

[Iceaxe]

Just a quick FWIW - Draper has acquired a lot more land to add to the Corner Canyon trail system. They are currently in the process of master planning the new land. The future is bright for Corner Canyon mountain biking, lots of trails to come.

[Iceaxe]

All of Corner Canyon is now dry and rideable. The asshats really made a mess of Rush in sections riding it in the mud.

Rush also has a fun new section, it's after the standard rest spot and before the Canyon Hollow junction. It has some huge banked turns and some really fun rollers.

[accadacca]

I need some new loop options. What are your favorites?

[Iceaxe]

My favorite is usually the one I'm currently riding :2thumbs:

I often look at the Strava tracks of those who frequent CC for new ideas of how to hook different trails together. Sometimes I'll look at someones Strava track and duplicate it the next day just to see how I compare.

[Iceaxe]

The new Corner Canyon bike park is now open. It looks awesome.

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[Iceaxe]

The cables and suspenders for the new Bear Canyon Bridge are strung. The decking for the walkway should be going up next.

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[Iceaxe]

The decking is starting to go up.

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[tallsteve]

A question for you who ride Corner Canyon frequently: does anyone yield to the uphill rider there anymore? Everywhere else I ride the mindset is still there of yielding to the uphill rider but, in Corner Canyon it seems to be the opposite. I don't ride there much, mainly just a few times in the spring. Last week I rode there once because the American Fork Canyon trails were too muddy. The day I rode I didn't have a single downhill rider pull over, or even slow down much, when I was pedaling uphill. South Maple Hollow, Maple Hollow, Anns, Eagle Crest. Granted, there are some sections of trails that are wide enough for both riders, much is not. What is your experience and protocol?

[Iceaxe]

Except for a few asshats the downhill riders always yield in CC. If they don't I inform them of their transgressions with a simple "uphill has the right of way" sometimes I prefix that with "hey, dumbass" in extreme cases. But for the most part I find CC is no different from anywhere else.

[tallsteve]

Good to hear, Shane. It must just be my small trip quantity sampling.

[Iceaxe]

Corner Canyon does get more than its fair share of noobs, beginner's and hackers, many of which just don't know the rules. This is particularly true on weekends.

[double moo]

I find most in CC are pretty polite.

[Sombeech]

Sometimes it's good to have the camera going while climbing, just in case there's ever a dispute that gets out of hand, you can share the footage online of the jerk who didn't want to yield to uphill.

[Iceaxe]

And the decking extents further over the chasm...

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[Iceaxe]

They were working hard on the bridge today. I expect it to be open in the near future.

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[tallsteve]

When the bridge is completed, maybe you could lead a Bogley group ride some evening soon, which would include this route. I'm not familiar enough with this part of CC but would love to ride it!

[Iceaxe]

We could do that. I also noticed they are cutting some new trails up to the bridge. I'm guessing this bridge becomes very popular as a destination hike in itself for the fat and out of shape. It would take the ordinary couch potato about two hours to do a loop hike that includes crossing the bridge.

Your average mtb rider could do a loop that includes the bridge in about 30 minutes, but we could easily hook up a couple other trails for a fun ride. One thing about riding Corner Canyon several times a week is I've learned some interesting and fun trail combinations.

[Iceaxe]

I spend my morning riding mountain bikes with my daughter's in Corner Canyon. What a great father's day present. We topped the ride off by walking across the new suspension bridge. We had to jump a few barriers as the bridge currently has no permanent handrail or sides, which makes the walk a little scary. We also had to listen to some lady tell us the barriers were placed there for a reason.

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[Iceaxe]

The bridge is just about ready to open. Today they were adding some finishing touches and building new trails to the abutment.

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[Iceaxe]

I rode across the new Bear Canyon Bridge today for the first time. The trail from the south is in, they were cutting a trail in from the north when I left.

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[tallsteve]

Very cool!

[whansen]

I road down rush this morning 7/3/15. Part of Rush trail is closed. They detour you just a little ways past the turn off to for tree trail option. You eventually get back on Rush. I think there doing more trail work.

[Iceaxe]

Middle Rush was open today and the improvements and realignment are really good/fun. I would expect the middle section to be closed off and on for at least another week as improvements continue.

FWIW- if you climb up Ann's you can look down on the meadow/rest area and see if the trail is open or closed as they place red streamers across the trail when it's closed. I try to avoid Rush when the mid section is closed as the detour sucks.

[Iceaxe]

Corner Canyon is perfect at the moment. The leaves are turning, the temperatures are ideal and the trails are in great condition.

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[tallsteve]

I haven't pedaled CC since last spring. With the days getting shorter and rehearsals starting for a Christmas play I'll be in, my ride time is getting squeezed. As I pedaled my road bike up the south side of Suncrest a couple of days ago, I noticed a whole bunch of construction going on just below the summit and right where the dirt road comes up from Hog Hollow and allows you to connect to the Eagle Crest Trail. Does anyone know if one can still pedal through that construction zone, cross Suncrest Drive and access the Eagle Crest Trail?

[Iceaxe]

You could still pedal through the construction two weeks ago. You can also pedal up the road another 1/4 mile to the TH at the top of Coffee Grinder and completely miss the construction.

[tallsteve]

Thanks, Ice. I guess I'll give it a try and find out. I've never been up the road to Coffee Grinder but, you're right, looks like a good option if the other route is blocked.

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[tallsteve]

I pedaled it yesterday afternoon. As indicated in the illustration, the whole area where the dirt road crosses the creek is all cut away and blocked off by heavy machinery and construction. They are building something major there (I heard a large retention dam?). Impossible to pedal through at the moment. So, I went up Coffee Grinder and found a connector trail that headed into the little neighborhood to the east. I could have just gone to the Coffee Grinder trailhead but, I was looking for the quickest way across.

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[accadacca]

Has anybody ridden it after the rain?

[Iceaxe]

I rode Corner Canyon tonight, everything is in great condition at the moment. A couple of mud puddles but no muddy trails to damage.

[Iceaxe]

Time to bring this thread back to the top with winter approaching.

I rode Corner Canyon today. EQ to Rattler to Ghost falls is currently dry for those interested. Ditto for Saddler, Quail Trail and North Ghost all of which can be combined into some great winter loops as they tend to melt out early and stay dry.

Upper Ghost is a muddy mess. Rattler is good to Ghost Falls but not beyond. Canyon Hollow, Ann's and Rush should all be avoided to prevent damaging the trails. The pictures were taken at Ghost Falls and you can see the trail turns to mud and snow at that point.

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[double moo]

Got some bad intel telling me that Ghost is in great shape. I headed up CC road to the top of Ghost at the Jacobs Ladder trail head. No chains or signs so I assumed the intel was good. A hundred yards down I was on packed slush. I stopped to see if I was causing trail damage - just tracks in the snow, no mud. A little bit of damp tacky trail on the east side for another hundred yards, feeling good. Then it went to shit... mud, sticky slimey mud. I got off and walked the bike trynig to do as little damage as possible... I walked all the way to the bridge at the falls, tires gummed up with the rear sliding not rolling. Twice I had to dig the mud out of the rear triangle just to allow the wheel to roll. Early on during my hike I rolled the bike wide on the leaves and grass to avoid mud... this just adds fiber to the mud making it clog up all the quicker! There were tire tracks - both standard and fat bike - that must have been when it was a bit more frozen as they were not deep at all.

After a long hike to the falls the trail suddenly was in great shape. One small spot of mud 3/4 of the way back to the BST. I railed Rattler back to the BST then dropped into the canyon and out through Berms and Rollers - track down the middle was fine but the berms on the west side were a no go.

On the upsie - the new Pivot Mach 6 is an awesome ride...

[Iceaxe]

Ask here for conditions as I ride CC every day it's ridable. Often when folks say Ghost is good they actually mean the north side trails up to Ghost Falls.

As of yesterday rattler and north ghost were both good to Ghost Falls.

EQ to the 3-way is good. Gasline is good. BST from 3-way to upper road is good. Complete Creekview is good (not the cutoff)

Everything else is a muddy mess.

If Thursdays storm is as advertised CC will be shut down for the winter.

Another option to see what is ridable is to join the Bogley group on Strava and than it's easy to check my tracks for the day and get a good idea of what is ridable. I normally ride about 20 miles with 2000' of elevation gain a day in CC, which equals out to about two laps of the canyon bottom to top so I cover a lot of trails. Right now I'm only getting about 10 miles and 1000' a day as there is just not a lot of ridable trail open.

[Iceaxe]

Add BST north to the bridge, Saddler and Quail Trail to the above that are now open. They should remain great for one more day so get out and ride.

I was able to pound out about 15 miles and 1600' today. Life is good [emoji2]

[accadacca]

Nice, we are headed up tonight.

[Iceaxe]

I just turned 15 miles and 1600' feet in Corner Canyon doing laps on the lower trails, and then it began to snow. I'm thinking this will probably shut the canyon down for the winter.

[Iceaxe]

I got another day in, as CC was just sprinkled with snow last night. Trail conditions haven't changed from above.

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[Iceaxe]

I've been trail running 4 or 5 times a week in Corner Canyon. I just thought you guys might like to see some pictures as there is 3' to 4' of snow at the top (Peak View Trailhead). Potato Hill, Ann's and Canyon Hollow are being groomed so they are open to fat tire bikes. No one has been down rush in over a month. Most the other routes have been packed by snow shoes and trail runners.

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[accadacca]

I may have to breakdown and pickup a fat tire bike...

[tallsteve]

I'll be getting a fatbike late summer when Trek offers them to employees again at a deep, deep discount. I should have picked one up last summer but, delayed too long and they ran out. With that being said, I'm having a grand time x-country skiing up AF Canyon and Round Valley. The snow this year is incredible and I've been going about 4 times a week!

[Iceaxe]

I was all excited about getting a fat tire bike..... until I watched them up corner canyon and decided they are not all they are cracked up to be. They are currently unridable in CC. Yesterday I watched about 6 different riders give it a try and all turned around after riding 100-yards. The trails were last groomed 2 days ago but they were to soft to ride. Being forced to turn around is not a big deal if you live close like me, but it would really suck if you got ready, loaded your bike and gear, drove over and couldn't ride. A couple times of that happening and my interest would be gone. I also wonder how long the trail grooming in CC will last because without it the fat bikes are a big no go.

[tallsteve]

Yep, conditions have to be near ideal to have a good fatbike ride. Yesterday afternoon as I was x-country skiing up the Alpine Loop road, I passed 5 or 6 fatbikers who were walking/pushing their fatbikes up the road. Too much fresh snow and they get slogged down. I didn't see them going back down the road but, I'm guessing even that was a real struggle. That just doesn't look very fun to me. With that being said, when the trails are packed down (thank you snowshoers / groomers!) fatbiking is a hoot!

[double moo]

Stopped by the parking lot at Taters around 5:00. Thin Air had their sled out grooming. The snow was frozen up - could hardly see any shoe print indent from walkng up a ways. Tire tracks were all fat bikes... it felt like you could ride a regular tire on it.

[double moo]

I was right! Another riding bud of mine rode rom Equestrian Park to Potato Hill, Anne's to the top, then Canyon Hollow back down... all on his regular bike. Said the groomed trail is packed tight.

[Iceaxe]

I've heard a few guys are putting 3" wide tires on their standard bike and doing reasonably well. I looked into it a little and a set of 3" tires cost about $120.

[Iceaxe]

I just updated all my Corner Canyon maps. Both the printed map (JPG) and Google Earth KMZ file are current. That should give anyone interested in Corner Canyon hours of fun.

Corner Canyon Maps and Information
http://climb-utah.com/WM/cornercanyon.htm

[accadacca]

Moo rented a fat bike and we tried it on Wednesday night. It was a blast! There were a few other fat bikes on the trails and quite a big circuit is groomed. We heard that the Thin Air shop grooms regularly with a small kid snowmobile.

We had Moo's standard bike, which was ridable in the groomed sections, which was 90% of it. Going uphill the fat tire bikes are much slower and take more effort to pedal. The standard bike was much quicker. However the fat tires just glide over the soft stuff on the side of the trails. On the downhill the fat bike is much nicer. With a standard bike you are fighting the front tire to make sure you don't get off into the soft stuff. The fat bike just glides along.

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[double moo]

Thin Air posts the trail conditions and which are groomed on their facebook page. They are really trying to improve the fat bike sport... and sales.

[accadacca]

Thin Air posts the trail conditions and which are groomed on their facebook page. They are really trying to improve the fat bike sport... and sales.
https://www.facebook.com/ThinAirCycles

[accadacca]

I'm looking at taking my Fat Ass out on my Fat Bike Wednesday night if anyone else wants to join.

[Sombeech]

Moo rented a fat bike and we tried it on Wednesday night.

How much was the rental, by the way?

[accadacca]

How much was the rental, by the way?
I think it was $45 for half day.

[accadacca]

Beautiful night on the mountain. Fresh snow and we ran into the groomer. We had a nice chat with him. It was a little soft going up Ann's, mostly because of the fresh powder. It should be perfect once the snow sets up a little. We are probably headed back up on Friday night.

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[accadacca]

The trail was groomed yesterday and should be in good shape. We did get a little dusting of snow last night, but it wasn't much.

I am riding tonight and probably Mon/Thur next week. if you want to tag along give me a holla. Skinney tire bikes will be ridable with the trails being packed down.

[Iceaxe]

Skinney tire bikes will be ridable with the trails being packed down.

NOT!

I rode CC today on skinney tires and it sucked. The trail needs to be packed a lot better for skinnies to be fun. You can ride parts of it, but it's a lot of work and not a lot of fun.

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[accadacca]

The upper trails are better on a skinny because they stay hard packed for the most part. Today it was almost 40 degrees!

I rode at 4:00 and it was really soft everywhere. It's best when the temps stay lower. At night is great and much better. Ultimately though, that's why I bought a fat bike. Night and day difference on the snow.

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[double moo]

82695

Trails were in great shape this morning. 28 degrees at the Tater Hill trail head when I started, 29 when I finished the loop. crossed paths with a dozen runner/hikers and 4 bikes - not too crowded.

[accadacca]

I rode this morning. It was nice to get above the smog for a few minutes...

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[Iceaxe]

I hiked to the old survey triangulation station on Traverse Ridge today. Started from the Maple Hollow Trailhead. It was great to be above the inversion in the bright blue sky.

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[accadacca]

Yep, so bright and nice above the smog. The snow is a bright white color, instead of dark and flat light inside the gloom.

[Iceaxe]

I rode CC today, the only trail that is rideable is the upper CC road. Everything else is still covered with snow drifts or contains sections of deep mud. But the good news is CC is drying fast. I'll post in this thread as soon as something is rideable.

For those that don't know, there is also a Bogley Strava group you can sign up for. It allows you to see where others in the group ride each day (I ride CC almost every day).

Following Strava will also give you an idea which trails are rideable and how to connect them together. One of the first trails that will be rideable is Rattler, and you can make some fun loops by combining it with the little known Quail and Saddler trails among others.

The pictures were taken 1.5 miles up the CC road where the connector cuts over to Rattler. I tried to ride down Rattler but quickly turned around when I kept encountering deep soft/slushy snow drifts followed by deep mud.

Please don't ride muddy trails.

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[Iceaxe]

So this morning I rode from the EQ up to Aqua Duct and was getting ready to attempt Rattler when the front passed over and I was caught in a wicked hail storm. The good news it some of the trails were rideable, the bad news is those same trails are now back under an 1" of snow and it's still snowing.

The one-way trail from the EQ up to the lower road CC is open and now a 2-way trail. The old one-way down trail is gone as they dug it up to up in a pipeline. I understand the new trail (old one-way down) will be paved up to the 3-way (left to Canyon Hollow, Right to Coyote Hollow) and follow over the top of the new pipeline. The trail will become a 2-way. I'm not sure if the upper dirt trail will stay or go. I'm guessing it will stay but might become a horse trail.

The lower CC rode is currently a huge mess as they dug it up to put in the new pipe line and now it's just a mud bog. When I hit the lower CC rode I went east and rode to the water tanks and than up to Gas Line. That route is always dry before other options, but later in the year it gets to sandy to be fun riding.

It was 50 degrees and sunny when I left the house and 30 degrees and snowing when I got home. You gotta love Utah weather.
:2thumbs:

[accadacca]

Great info Shane! Yeah that dirt road was tore all to hell and a mud bog. I was thinking last night that the trails below that dirt road might be close to dry, but hard to put a loop together with the stuff in between being muddy and the upper stuff slushy. So I went over and rode the Quarry trail at the base of Little Cottonwood.

Honestly I'm hoping we get some more snow to keep my fat bike going for a while longer. I think we will get in a funk with part of the trails being muddy and the other half slushy. Hopefully though there are enough lower trails dry at the same time to get a decent ride in.

I'm wondering if the trails will be rideable tomorrow morning from coyote > bst > potato > ann's > canyon > silica and back. Thoughts?

[Iceaxe]

FWIW- attached is a map that shows what lower CC trails are currently opened and closed because of construction.

Brock's from Peak View down to it's intersection with Canyon Hollow is also currently closed because of construction. That section is easy to bypass as you just ride the upper CC road from Peak View down to where Canyon Hollow intersects the road.

:stud:

[Iceaxe]

I'm wondering if the trails will be rideable tomorrow morning from coyote > bst > potato > ann's > canyon > silica and back. Thoughts?

I'm guessing "NO" right now. One problem is the warm weather is making the snow too soft/slushy for even the fat bikes. Maybe if it freezes and you ride early before they thaw.

Things are really melting out fast. What was 3' snow drifts on Monday are now completely gone. I guessing in a week I'll be able to put together some fun south facing loops. I would have been able to do it today if it didn't start snowing again.

[accadacca]

Lower trails from Ann's, which is frozen right now.

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[Iceaxe]

Corner Canyon is rideable if you hook things up correctly. I made it to Ghost Falls without getting into snow or mud. My suggestion is to start at the Orson Smith Trailhead and ride up the road to the BST trailhead and than up Rattler. There are a couple very minor sections of snow and mud but nothing that is going to rip the trails up.

The Upper Corner Canyon Road is rideable.
Rattler is rideable (provided you approach from the BST Trailhead)
Quail Trail is rideable
Saddler Trail is rideable
Aqua Duct Trail is rideable

You can also put together a short fun loop using Quail, Saddler, Aqua Duct and the CC Road. The loop can be easily ridden in both directions. It sure beats not being able to ride. I use this loop a lot in winter to train as it is usually the first rideable loop in CC.

Another loop I use to train that drys out early is >> up CC Road >> Up Aqua Duct >> and than down the bottom section of the Orson Smith downhill. This loop is also currently dry.

FWIW- I now own about two dozen Strava fast times of the year in CC. Mostly because I'm probably the first guy to ride many of the sections this year that was not riding one of those fat pigs.

Please do not ride muddy trails!

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[accadacca]

Coolness! I've never ridden out of Orson Smith or most of the trails you mentioned. Looks like I will be hitting those trails next week! :2thumbs:

[accadacca]

Iceaxe I'm looking to ride tomorrow night and try that loop you rode on Saturday. It should feel good to be back on my skinny tire. :2thumbs:

[Iceaxe]

@Iceaxe (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=36) I'm looking to ride tomorrow night and try that loop you rode on Saturday. It should feel good to be back on my skinny tire. :2thumbs:

Just a heads up, it's supposed to snow tomorrow morning. :cry1:

I've ridden every day this week in Corner Canyon. Life is good. :2thumbs:

[accadacca]

Just a heads up, it's supposed to snow tomorrow morning. :cry1:

I've ridden every day this week in Corner Canyon. Life is good. :2thumbs:
Yeah I saw a chance of rain and possibly snow. I'm just hoping they are wrong or it doesn't do much. I'm going to try morning or evening...hopefully. :ne_nau:

[accadacca]

Dang! Pretty good rain. Might be hosed for a day, maybe two.

[accadacca]

Any idea on conditions? Rideable sometime tomorrow? How much moisture fell?

I had the following routes planned based on @Iceaxe (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=36)'s rides, both starting at equestrian.

Option 1
Lower Corner Canyon
Carolina Hills
BST to Orson Smith
Aqueduct
Sadler
Bunny

Option 2
Lower Corner Canyon
Carolina Hills
BST
Rattler
North Ghost Falls
Gas Line
Carolina Hills
Lower Corner Canyon

[Iceaxe]

Any idea on conditions? Rideable sometime tomorrow? How much moisture fell?

I had the following routes planned based on @Iceaxe (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=36)'s rides, both starting at equestrian.

You need to look at my route suggestions again because you have some problems, also not all my Strava tracks are trails I'd currently ride again in the near future as some hike-a-bike was involved

Lower Corner Canyon - OPEN
Carolina Hills - OPEN
BST to Orson Smith -??? BST doesn't go to Orson Smith. If you mean BST TH there are snow drifts you will have to walk over.
Aqueduct - OPEN
Sadler - OPEN
Bunny - OPEN

Option 2
Lower Corner Canyon - OPEN
Carolina Hills - OPEN
BST - Snow drifts, section of walking the bike
Rattler - OPEN
North Ghost Falls - Closed with snow drifts
Gas Line - Closed with snow drifts
Carolina Hills - OPEN
Lower Corner Canyon - OPEN


Orson Smith is the small park at the bottom of the Upper Corner Canyon Road. BST trailhead is located 1 mile up the Upper CC road.

Start at Equestrian Center (aka EQ, Andy Ballard). When you hit the Lower CC road turn east and follow the water tank access road up to Aqueduct (don't follow the CC road), turn north and follow Aqueduct north to Quail Trail. Turn east and follow Quail Trail up to the the Upper CC road. Ride up the CC road to the BST trailhead. Take BST to where it connects to Rattler, follow Rattler up to Ghost Falls.

If you want more bang >>> a great loop is BST TH up the CC road to the Rattler connecter trail, Take The connect over to Rattler and down Rattler. This route involves 5 minutes of climbing up the road and gets you a bunch of downhill. I do this lap all the time, in Strava it's listed under Rattler Hot Lap.

Still want more? From Aqueduct, Up Quail Trail, Down CC Road, Down Saddler, South on Aqueduct back to the base of Quail Trail, which is another lap I do a lot.

BST out to the new bridge looks really inviting, but it's not as about 1/2 way out the trail turns to mud and snow drifts. Give that trail another week to dry out.

It will probably be wet and muddy in the morning, but should dry out by afternoon if we don't get anymore rain.

If you want to ride tomorrow afternoon I could probably do it with you. I have some appointments in the morning but will probably be free after about 1:00.

[accadacca]

Thanks for the tips. Here is the map and trail info that I was using along with your latest tracks. I figured north ghost and gas line might have issues, but thought BST from CC Road to Orson Smith would be ok. Now to look at your suggestions and make a route.

I would love to get together and learn some new loops. Could you ride tomorrow 4:30-6ish PM?

http://www.trailforks.com/region/corner-canyon/?lat=40.51247932511455&lon=-111.83323927230833&z=15&m=roadmap

[Iceaxe]

I would love to get together and learn some new loops. Could you ride tomorrow 4:30-6ish PM?

Let's see where things are at noon tomorrow and I'll know if conditions are going to be be dry. The earlier the easier for me. And if anyone else from Bogley wants to show they can join up.

[accadacca]

Ok gotcha. I'm going to take my bike to work and go straight over. Let me know how it looks.

[tallsteve]

I'd love to join in if you ride this afternoon. I need to learn the lower trail routes. I could be at the trailhead by 4 unless I find something majorly wrong with my bike, which hasn't seen the light of day since November.

[Iceaxe]

Let's do this! Does 4:00 work? Meet at the Andy Ballard (equestrian center) trailhead?

I don't have lights so I'm done when it starts getting dark.

[tallsteve]

4 works for me. If I'm not there by 4, don't wait. It means I had bike issues (which I don't foresee).

[accadacca]

I can make it happen too. Might be a few minutes late coming out from the west side.

Wondering if I might get kinda hot wearing fleece pants!

[Iceaxe]

I'll be there. I'm easy to find on my bright orange bike.

[tallsteve]

I'll be easy to find because, well, I'm tall?

[accadacca]

I will be riding a 10 year old Salsa. haha

I need to upgrade my ride! :ride:

[accadacca]

Great riding with you guys and thanks Iceaxe for showing us some new trails! It was a gorgeous day!!

It won't be long until the snow melts on some other trails. Otherwise it will be back to the fat bike! Who knows!!!

Iceaxe had to bail a little early after his rear shock lost all the air. My front fork was really low on air! I'm hoping I can add some, because it didn't feel right. Too squishy!

This was tallsteve on top of Sadler!

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[Iceaxe]

I'll be without my beloved bike for 4 or 5 days as it will take that long to get a rebuild kit for the rear shock. Apparently FoxShox rebuild kits are not a stocked item.

[tallsteve]

I'll be without my beloved bike for 4 or 5 days as it will take that long to get a rebuild kit for the rear shock. Apparently FoxShox rebuild kits are not a stocked item.

That sucks. Thanks for showing us those lower trails, Shane. It felt great to be back on dirt!

[Iceaxe]

Soon as it drys out a little more I can show you some more fun trails and the bridge.

[tallsteve]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPwxlPWfwEk

[accadacca]

Bummer Shane. Yeah get it dialed now though for the season. I added 50 lbs to my front shock and that made a huge difference. I had way too much sag. I would love to do another ride and do some more trails. Let me know when you get your bike back.

I rode the same loop this morning that we did last night, except I jumped on the BST from the parking lot after coming from ghost and down rattler. I went all the way past the bridge and accidentally passed the orson smith turnoff. There is another trail that is shorter and goes west down the mountain from the bridge, but I wanted to try orson smith. So I went back and it was really fun! From there I went back up the CC road and down upper saddler and lower saddler, which at the bottom it weaves through some houses. Then I took a short section of paved trail to the EQ. Great ride!

There was a 15' long snow drift along BST that was rideable or you could easily walk across it. Then a few small patches here and there that were easy to avoid. The trail was frozen in the morning and might be a little wet in places later in the day, but I don't think it would be too muddy.

[Iceaxe]

I added 50 lbs to my front shock and that made a huge difference. I had way too much sag.

50 pounds is a HUGE jump. I usually adjust in 5 pound increments. Also when you get a good setting you like write it down and check your pressures about once a month because even good systems do lose air through leakage over time.

To set my suspension I start a little high in pressure and than ride for about 15 or 30 minutes. If you are not using your full suspension travel you have too much pressure. Keep taking pressure out until you bottom out your suspension once every 15 to 30 minutes. Using that method you will get your pressures correct to where you are using your complete suspension all the time. It doesn't do any good to have 6" of travel if you only use 4" of it.

You can ride Corner Canyon with a pretty soft suspension, when I travel to somewhere rough like Moab I'll jump my pressures 5 to 10 pounds. If you write down good settings and have a good shock pump it's easy to adjust or change pressure in a couple of minutes and get them right.

Ignore all the crap people try to tell you about sag. You get the part I mentioned correct and sag will take care of itself.

This is the same method of setting suspensions we used when I was racing motorcycle's professionally, and I had some of FoxShox's best engineers helping set my bikes up at the time. You want to always be using the complete suspension travel, but seldom bottoming out.

:2thumbs:

[accadacca]

Yeah gotcha. I've got an old Manitou front fork and it has two separate chambers for different reasons. The SPV chamber didn't have any pressure in it and the range is 40-175 lbs (per the manual), so I started with 50. I still need to fine tune it because it was a little stiff, but much better than the slop I rode with yesterday. I was riding a low rider on the front!

[Iceaxe]

I was riding a low rider on the front!

Hahaha.... as I was riding my bike home with the clapped out rear end I was singing the Cheech and Chong lowrider song.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alyx4QeRRdg

[tallsteve]

I went again yesterday afternoon and pedaled roughly the same loop we did Tuesday, albeit I missed the Saddler cutoff. No biggie. I just rolled down the road a bit more until I came to the Aqueduct road, then backtracked. The trails were surprisingly drier than the day before, enough so that I was sliding around more on the corners. Lot's more riders. The word of dried trails is spreading like wild-fire.

[tallsteve]

BTW, I ordered a new front rotor so my brakes won't be squealing like a banshee and a pair of baggy bib shorts (I LOVE bib shorts!).

[tallsteve]

I finally found the Bear Canyon suspension bridge yesterday afternoon. Very, very, cool! Also ran in to Iceaxe on my way back. Great afternoon of riding!

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[accadacca]

We really needed this rain. The trails were starting to get loose and dusty.

[accadacca]

Dang...

After rain this morning and sun in the afternoon, I thought the trails would be perfect in the morning.

Then the second wave of rain and snow came in. I'm thinking its a no go tomorrow on the skinny tire. Maybe the fat bike on the upper trails...

[accadacca]

Took my fat bike out. Trails are much better then I expected. I was just going to try CC road. All the trails that are lower and sandy are ok. They just soak up the moisture with a few puddles here and there. Above the rattler/ghost turnoff on rattler gets a little soft in spots. The dirt gets darker in the trees and is more prone to mud. Somebody rode a skinny tire yesterday, must have been afternoon between storms. They put some ruts in a few places on the way to ghost falls on rattler, not too bad though.

I noticed that the tires on my fat bike just float over it. I tried to go in a few of the skinny tire ruts to smooth them out. My fat tires only have 10 lbs in them and they just flatten anything like a steam roller. Works great! I noticed too that the fat tires don't rut the trail like a skinny tire does.

[tallsteve]

I just got back after spending 6 days in the flat-lands of Houston. What's the CC conditions? I have no idea what the weather's been like here since I left. Would I be able to ride this afternoon?

[Iceaxe]

CC should be dried out by this afternoon, at least the south facing stuff you have been riding.

[tallsteve]

Cool- thanks!

[accadacca]

It was in good shape when I started at 7 AM, just a little wet here and there. The rain had stopped when I left my house and got to the EQ parking. However...I started to feel a few sprinkles as I was coming down rattler and then as I headed north on the BST toward the bridge I could see a storm. Well, I rode right into it as you can see from my Strava pictures. It was a whiteout up there! I rode back up the CC road and there was snow everywhere, so I went back down gasline, etc to get back. The trails do dry out quickly and the sun was coming out as I got back to the EQ parking. When I came down though, everything was very wet.

[tallsteve]

Maybe I'll go for a road ride then.

[Iceaxe]

Potato Hill and Red Potato are now open. By combining the two you can make a fun little loop. The Red Potato climb is one of my favorites. It looks vicious from the bottom, but is much easier then it appears. It's a nice constant grade with no gut busters along the way.

Ann's still has a lot of snow and mud so everything above Potato Hill is still closed.

Ghost Falls is now open (By that I mean from the falls up to the Jacob's Ladder/Ghost Falls Trailhead.

The entire length of BST is open from Bear Canyon to Point of the Mountain.

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[double moo]

Rode the upper Ghot Falls this morning. There as one corner that was still muddy - a 60' hike-a-bike will get you around it!

Got some bad intel on Rush being open and dry rom a rider we know who rode it. We dropped in from the top to find the first few curves nice and dry. Then hit some snow - rideable - and some mud - hikeable - all in all 95 % rideable. The worst of it was how torn up it is wherever you have to cross the Questar construction. At one crossing it was a 5' drop below the trail - had to climb down and hand the bikes across. We shouldn't have been on the trail... Best advice is to give it a miss until Questar is done - supposed to be in May.

[bigred72]

Thanks for the continued Intel. Went riding there on Saturday. Thanks to accadacca for the ride info.

Ghost falls, gasline, bear canyon and a couple of wrong turns.
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[Iceaxe]

BigRed72, you should join the Strava Bogley group and you can see everyone's ride. There is also a Strava widget on the right side of this forum. It makes following those on Bogley easy as most the regular MTB's to this forum belong.

:2thumbs:

[accadacca]

Damn! Glad I got out Monday morning! It looks like I may be on my stationary bike for a while. How many days until it will dry out? Maybe the mud will be frozen in the mornings...

[Iceaxe]

I'm guessing Thursday afternoon CC will be dry to ride, at least the south facing stuff.

[double moo]

Rode tonight on the fattie (5:00 to 6:30). Orson, rattler, gasline, ghost, bst, virtually dry, A few damp spots but no "mud" to speak of. Came home with clean tires. It was just starting to snow at 6:25 as we were blasting down CC Road to beat the storm.

[accadacca]

I took my fat bike this morning just in case and wish I would have had my skinny tire! I figured I would start at Orson and just ride the CC road up if anything and to gauge conditions. Well the CC road is completely dry! So I headed up rattler, then upper ghost. All good! Upper ghost above the bridge might get a little soft during the day, but totally rideable. 90% of the trails were dry. Snow on both sides of the trail.

I saw two guys going down canyon hollow. The trails on that side look to be getting close.

[Iceaxe]

I saw two guys going down canyon hollow. The trails on that side look to be getting close.

I wish someone would kick those asshats right in the nuts.

90% of Canyon Hollow, Rush, Anns and Clarks are in great shape, but 10% are still mud and the asshats ruin the trails through those sections.

FWIW- I'd avoid Rush until mid June when they are finished with the new gas line as they are trenching through several sections of it.

[accadacca]

Yeah, I hate the ruts. I almost thought about going over that way, but I could still see patches of snow on the trail and figured that there would be mud in the trees. Early in the morning though if its really cold everything is frozen. Chances are they didn't rut anything at all, but during the day would be a different story.

[Iceaxe]

It looks like Draper might ban dogs from Corner Canyon. I hate to say it but the area dog owners are terrible about cleaning up after their pets.

http://www.good4utah.com/news/local-news/draper-considers-banning-dogs-from-watershed-area-in-corner-canyon

[accadacca]

I think Canyon Hollow might be dry. I haven't had a chance to try it, but many of the trails in Corner Canyon are drying up!

[Iceaxe]

Canyon Hollow is NOT dry. There is stiil 6" of ice on sections of it. The trail grooming is coming back to haunt us.

[accadacca]

Canyon Hollow is NOT dry. There is stiil 6" of ice on sections of it. The trail grooming is coming back to haunt us.

Uh oh. I know Ann's is locked in with snow...

[neilether]

It looks like Draper might ban dogs from Corner Canyon. I hate to say it but the area dog owners are terrible about cleaning up after their pets.

http://www.good4utah.com/news/local-news/draper-considers-banning-dogs-from-watershed-area-in-corner-canyon


That article is funny. The last section where the lady compares wild animal (herbivore) feces to dog feces. Apples and oranges lady.....

[Iceaxe]

Uh oh. I know Ann's is locked in with snow...
FWIW- Anns will dry out before Canyon Hollow. Canyon Hollow historically follows about a week behind Ann's, but the winter trail grooming has complicated things as the trails have sections of solid ice from the grooming.

[Iceaxe]

Fun with routes.

So as some of you know I ride CC almost every day so I'm always looking for new trail combinations and I found a fun one this week and it avoids all the gas line construction going on in the canyon.

Simply start at the base of the Oak Hollow Trail and ride it up to BST and than ride BST northeast to the Bear Canyon Bridge and back. It makes a great ride. Currently contains no mud and has some great sections that see little traffic. The Oak Hollow section of trail is really fun and is virtually unknown or used outside of the local residents who live nearby.

To reach Oak Hollow Trail park at the Draper Outdoor Pool (657 E Vestry Rd) The trail begins at the round-a-bout just west of the pool.

Out to the bridge and back is approximately 15 miles round trip with 1500' of elevation gain. The best part is the trail has no real long sustained climbs and is pretty evenly spaced with up and down sections so the elevation gain actually feels like a lot less.

If you want more trail or elevation side trips to Ghost Falls and over Potato/Red Potato Hill can be added. Up Red Potato is one of my favorite climbs as it looks menacing but is actually pretty gradual.

Those who belong to the Bogley group on Strava can look at my route yesterday and see my tracks.
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[double moo]

Rode up the upper Ghost trail to CC road, up the road around the top, down and up Brock's to the Trees cut off and onto Rush. Rush was dry all the way, not even a damp spot. Most of the Trees section was chewed to crap from the deer and elk walking down the trail when muddy. At the intersection where Trees meets Rush you have to walk you bike across the construction - Please be respectful of their work. Once we got lower we cut back across to Ghost falls to avoid the lower construction sections.

[Iceaxe]

I checked out all the CC trails over the past two days.

Canyon Hollow is still closed with mud above the Ghost Falls cut-off and will be closed for at least a week.

Ann's is still closed with mud above Potato Hill (both east and west) and will be closed for at least a week

Rush is currently one giant piece of shit because of the new gas line and I'd just avoid it until June unless you like playing hike a bike and dodging construction workers and equipment.

Creek View is closed because of the new gas line.

The Equestrian Center to the lower CC road is currently a two-way trail so use caution.

Brocks is officially closed as it cross through a construction zone.

Rattler is open.

Ghost Falls is open

BST is open

Potato Hill is open

Red Potato is open

Oak Hollow is open

Canyon Hollow is open

[Iceaxe]

Add Lower Rush to the open trails list. From the mid-point Canyon Hollow junctuon down is what I mean by this.

Add Maple Hollow to the closed trails because of mud.

[accadacca]

I checked out all the CC trails over the past two days.

Canyon Hollow is still closed with mud above the Ghost Falls cut-off and will be closed for at least a week.

Ann's is still closed with mud above Potato Hill (both east and west) and will be closed for at least a week

Rush is currently one giant piece of shit because of the new gas line and I'd just avoid it until June unless you like playing hike a bike and dodging construction workers and equipment.

Creek View is closed because of the new gas line.

The Equestrian Center to the lower CC road is currently a two-way trail so use caution.

Brocks is officially closed as it cross through a construction zone.

Rattler is open.

Ghost Falls is open

BST is open

Potato Hill is open

Red Potato is open

Oak Hollow is open

Canyon Hollow is open
How about now? :haha:

How much snow is corner canyon getting?

I'm hoping it is rideable by Thursday morning...

[Iceaxe]

Right now there is 2" of snow on my lawn. There is probably 4" at Ghost Falls and Potato Hill. I'll keep you up to date, but we're supposed to have several storms rolling through for the next few days.

[accadacca]

Here are a few photos from this morning. I figured once again that I would take my Fat Bike out and ride the CC road from Orson to see how it looked. Early in the morning the ground is much colder too and in many cases frozen. The CC road had hardly anything on it when I started at Orson. It then started to have a skiff here and there as I started and a touch more when I got to the rattler connector. The lower trails (from the rattler connector off gaseline down) are in decent shape. They are sandy for the most part and the snow didn't really stick to them much, just a skiff here and there. I bet they will be dry by Friday morning. Once you start getting higher up on rattler nearing ghost there is a bit more snow and once you cross the bridge is goes from 1" to 4" on top.

I also went across the BST It had a good amount of snow in places as it climbed in elevation and the wind had blown snow across the trail. My Fat Bike worked like a dream! It really floats over the snow and I had hardly any mud on it at all when I finished. Just a few splashes from the normal puddles that form in the middle of the trail. When my tires were on dirt (even the higher trails) there was plenty of traction and I did not spin. Once the snow melts if could get muddy for a bit though. I bet it will melt off pretty fast though. Above ghost falls could take a while...

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[accadacca]

I rode early this morning. Up from EQ, gasoline to rattler connector, up rattler to ghost. I went a little ways past the bridge at ghost and it got squishy so I turned around. It was all good on those trails up to ghost.

Then I rode canyon hollow to rush, silica pit and over to coyote. Rush and a few other spots were a little soft still. I would give it another day on that section.

From there I went up potato, down red potato, BST and oak hollow. The upper trails were a soft in places with a little mud in the deep trees. The lower trails below Mike Weir were okay. It'll all be dry by Saturday I think, but then comes more storms!

[Iceaxe]

I seized a rear wheel bearing Monday and it ruined my rear hub, so I'm without a bike until about Wednesday of next week when my new rear wheel gets here. I thought I could just replace the bearing but when I pulled it apart the bearing had come apart and the bearing race welded itself into the hub.

:cry1:

[REDFOX]

Ice, what brand of hub do you have ? I have never had that happen, however I have had to replace the freehub body on shimano xt hubs before.

[Iceaxe]

The wheels are Stans, not exactly sure of the hub. But so far we haven't been able to get the damaged race on the none drive side out of the hub. We spent some time messing with it but I want my bike fixed ASAP so I ordered a new wheel.

[tallsteve]

I've got a spare 9 speed 29'er wheel if you want to borrow it until yours comes in (if you're running 9 speed that is).

[neilether]

I've got a spare 9 speed 29'er wheel if you want to borrow it until yours comes in (if you're running 9 speed that is).


The freehub is the same for 9 or 10 speed. All you'd have to do is switch the cassette.

[tallsteve]

The freehub is the same for 9 or 10 speed. All you'd have to do is switch the cassette.

That's what I thought but, wasn't 100% sure.

[Iceaxe]

Thanks for the offer! I think I'm going to blow the dust off my old Diamondback DR8 and give it a try. It was a good bike but it's old enough it has center pull brakes. I'm hoping to have my new wheel by Wednesday.

[tallsteve]

Thanks for the offer! I think I'm going to blow the dust off my old Diamondback DR8 and give it a try. It was a good bike but it's old enough it has center pull brakes. I'm hoping to have my new wheel by Wednesday.

Sounds good. Let me know if you change your mind. I think my spare wheel set still has tubeless tires mounted to them even.

[accadacca]

Upper Ghost Falls Trail...

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[Iceaxe]

Corner Canyon warning... the Canyon Hollow trail is now trash as the new gas line now cuts through it at several locations. Everything above the lower diversion dam and below the Rush mid-point access is now trashed and most of the trail no longer exists. You have been warned.

It appears Canyon Hollow can be accessed from Ghost Falls and you can ride to the top, but that section is still closed because of mud. It might be open by next weekend depending on the weather this week.

And in the good news department... I got my new rear wheel and rode CC today. It felt like I was riding a rocket. That seized bearing must have really been dragging for some time as my bike was super fast today.

[accadacca]

Please miss us...

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[accadacca]

Well...the sun is out a bit.

[Iceaxe]

Well...the sun is out a bit.

Hahaha.... I'm sitting here hoping things dry out a little so I can turn some laps later this afternoon.

[tallsteve]

Let us know what you find out. I'm guessing it will be a muddy mess. I'm going to try and sneak in a rode ride in between flurries.

[Iceaxe]

Not to bad if you are careful where you ride. Look at my Strava and you can see what was dry. I wasn't really muddy at all until I tried to ride down the new pipe line rode back to the EQ.

[accadacca]

Not to bad if you are careful where you ride. Look at my Strava and you can see what was dry. I wasn't really muddy at all until I tried to ride down the new pipe line rode back to the EQ.
Coolness. I figured it would be good to go by the morning. At least the lower trails. I will look over your Strava route.

I bet past the bridge on ghost is muddy and other trails in the trees. I might try to ride over to bear canyon too, it might get soft in a couple spots. It looks like a few sprinkles tonight. Looking forward to warmer temps and the warming trend over the next week!

[Iceaxe]

I couldn't get to ghost falls without messing up the trail. I rode up north ghost to where I could intersect rattler, and than down rattler. So really only the bottom section of rattler was rideable.

[accadacca]

I had to go around or carry my bike over a few places to get to the bridge on rattler. Lotta tire tracks up there. I did a few laps on the lower trails. BST to the bear canyon bridge was ok.

[accadacca]

Bloody rain! I had to carry my bike in a couple places this morning to make it to ghost on rattler. The lower trails are okay and just wet on top with the occasional puddle. The rain wasn't heavy. If the sun comes out today it will dry out the lower trails, but this rain really delayed the upper muddy trails by a few more days...

[Iceaxe]

From Draper City - At the present time, dogs are no longer allowed in Corner Canyon above Bonneville Shoreline Trail. Dogs are still allowed on a leash in other areas of Corner Canyon that are not in the Watershed. Unfortunately, the City had to change this policy due to high levels of bacteria in the Draper City drinking water.

[accadacca]

Here is my report from this morning. The lower trails are dry. All the way to the ghost bridge on rattler is okay. There might be a couple soft spots during the day, but not bad. I went above the bridge at ghost and made it all the way to the top, see my pictures below. When I woke up it was 31 degrees, which was kind of a bummer because I wanted to wear shorts. However this made it perfect to ride all the trails without issue. The ground was frozen and many places are rutted with deep hikers shoe prints as well. Many bikers and hikers alike have really trashed sections of the trail. I don't get it, because I would not continue riding if my bike was digging in that deep on a trail and I was plastering it with mud. Same goes for the hikers, wtf are they still hiking for if it is that muddy?

I went right over the top of all the mud and hardly got anything on my bike. Just a little from the puddles that I couldn't fully avoid. I don't think I would have made it all the way up upper ghost if it would have been warmer. Most of it above the bridge is okay, but the very top is trashed and muddy. I went down canyon hollow from ghost, then down rush at the connector, then up gasline. I would avoid all three of those trails for at least another day. They will be very muddy once the sun comes out and the ground gets warm. I went up potato hill and couldn't believe how jacked up the trail was from the hikers. It looks like a herd of elephants went through in several places. Long sections of the trail too. Many of the trails are going to need some traffic to get them back into shape. Too many people hiking and biking muddy trails. I then rode red potato and down BST to the swimming pool. That section will be muddy in places too for another day above Mike Wier. Below it isn't too bad as it gets sandy.

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On the way up Gasline

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The top of Ghost at the gate on the road. Hardly any mud, but only because it was frozen! :cool2:

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This used to be the intersection of canyon hollow and where you could jump on the lower piece of rush. Yikes!

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Canyon hollow on the right and the other piece of canyon hollow on the left. You can still kinda connect them there on the other side of the road.

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This was at the BST and Clarks intersection

[Iceaxe]

The gas line sucks and has ruined a lot of great trails. CC is currently split into a north and south side and it's difficult to get between the two sides.


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[accadacca]

Agreed, they are really jacking things up. :angryfire:

[REDFOX]

When the gas line came through bountiful on the Mueller park trail they were issuing citations for anyone getting near their construction sight. I'm surprised that anyone is even allowed to ride there right now.

[Iceaxe]

Bountiful police are only one step below jack boot Nazi and the layout of CC is nothing like Mueller Park.

There are still plenty of trails to ride in CC that are no where near the construction. The trails that are closed are signed and the MTB's just ride elses where. It just sucks that it's hard at the moment to connect the south side trails with the north.

[double moo]

Rode from the top of Maple Hollow down to the Tater Tunnel this evening. 4 or 5 wet spots. The wet dirt is tight and left tir tracks less than 1/4" deep. By the end of the week it should be all dry. Headed up Anne's from the tunnel -- 3-4 wet spots, no real problems or mud to speak of. Headed down Brocks/Trees. There were worse mud spots on the upper section than there were on Anne's or Maple - still able to ride the edges and not tear up the trail... please slow it dow when you get to wet areas so you have time to react before rutting the trail.

[Iceaxe]

Corner Canyon Trail Report current as of 4-8-16

Rattler - open.

Ghost Falls - open

BST - open

Potato Hill - open

Red Potato - open

Oak Hollow - open

Spring Hollow - open

Quail Trail - open.

Saddler - open.

Gas Line - open.

North Ghost Falls - open.

Aqua Duct - open.

Ann's East - open

Ann's West - open

Clark's - open

Maple Hollow - open

Maple Hollow DH (aka: Draper DH) - open

Peak View - open

Jacob's Ladder DH - open

The Equestrian Center to the lower CC road is currently open, but it's a two-way trail so use caution. The Lower CC road is closed for construction and you must use Carolina Hills to reach BST/Aqua Duct/Gas Line and the upper canyon,

Canyon Hollow - Is closed below Ghost Falls for construction and is open above Ghost Falls.

Rush - CLOSED!!! There is no section of Rush that can be ridden where you are not crossing construction and/or interfering with construction. Don't be a asshat, go ride another trail. The Maple Hollow DH and the Jacob's Ladder DH are both open, go ride those trails. The quicker the gas line is in the quicker we get our canyon back.

Creek View - closed for construction because of the new gas line.

Brock's - closed for construction because of the new gas line.

There is a possibly of rain over the next few days, PLEASE DON'T RIDE MUDDY TRAILS!

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[accadacca]

Who's idea was it to widen the eagle crest trail? I loved that trail and I have no idea how much further it will be widened. $&#%!!! [/facepalm]

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[Iceaxe]

They are not widening Eagle Crest, it's just normal trail maintenance. The trail will narrow back up as soon as maintenance stops and nature takes over. This maintenance has been scheduled for a long time and that side of the mountain was badly in need of some love. The entire trail will receive a makeover.

[tallsteve]

It's going to be widened pretty much the whole way. I just got off the phone with Bill Becker who has the Corner Canyon Trails Foundation. We were discussing some other CC stuff and I asked him about Eagle Crest. It is being widened (to the width of all the other CC trails on the Draper side) to accommodate more traffic. It is quite narrow. Even I've had challenges passing other riders riding in the opposite direction. He said that trail has been there for a very long time and wasn't planned out the best and hasn't seen any love. Once completed there will be a big push to get people riding it to help 'dilute' the traffic from the other trails. I see this as being a good thing for the trail system as a whole although I'll miss the solitude I typically find on Eagle Crest. They are also going to start digging a new trail in Mercer Hollow (Utah County side) that will connect with Eagle Crest to the west and Hog Hollow to the east. Sounds like it will be another good looping option.

[tallsteve]

...also, having been involved in building a bunch of trail, the trail cat always cuts a fairly wide swath at first but, the finished trail itself will still only be roughly 32" - 36" wide when finished. It always looks bad at first and the larger disturbed ground fills in quickly with growth. Don't sweat it.

[accadacca]

I don't like it and didn't see anything wrong with the existing trail. I hope it gets better.

[Iceaxe]

That is what every trail in Corner Canyon looked like when it was installed, but it usually takes a year for the trail to become really good again.

[Iceaxe]

Also.... if it makes you feel any better Rattler looked exactly like your picture with a big wide trail when it was installed. And Rattler is only about two years old.

[tallsteve]

This weather sucks. That is all.

[accadacca]

Yeah suxxx. I might have to break out the fat bike.

[accadacca]

Rideable tomorrow? :o)

[accadacca]

Looks like Iceaxe rode today. What's the skinny?

[Iceaxe]

I froze my ass off. It was actually pretty nice for the first of my ride and than it started hailing about half way through. By the time I got home I was soaked, couldn't feel my hands and had a popsicle headache from the cold... so all in all it was still better than working.

The lower south facing trails should be ridable tomorrow. The upper trails actually have snow on them at the moment so the ass clowns will rut them up tomorrow.

[accadacca]

Snow? Oh my hell. I've been cold like that riding and it sucks. If I get a wild hair I might ride later tonight. Maybe the fat tire?

Anybody wanna ride tomorrow late afternoon? Hopefully at the peak of warmth.

[Iceaxe]

I plan to ride around noon if that works for you.

[accadacca]

I plan to ride around noon if that works for you.
Iceaxe my wife is out and won't be home until 1ish. Could you ride an hour or so later?

[Iceaxe]

I have other obligations later today so it has to be noon for me.

[accadacca]

I have other obligations later today so it has to be noon for me.

Ok dang. I'll have to catch you next time. We need to meet up for a ride. Give a report after.

[accadacca]

Here is the report from my ride last night. I rode all the way up gasoline and then up ghost to the top. I wasn't sure how far past the bridge I would get. It wasn't bad all the way up with the normal puddles. At the very top where you pass the wood pole opening, it got really sloppy. So that very top flat part of trail, right below the parking lot and road was nasty. The road in that area was bad too, so I turned around there. All the other lower trails I rode were ok. I took BST up from the Clarks intersection en route to potato hill and not far up BST it got really sloppy, so I turned around.

You've probably noticed all the new "trail closed" signs blocking the trail. Damn. I'm hopeful that they can reconnect canyon hollow once they get their pipeline covered back up. It's just one section that is really excavated. The rest it still intact. I rode a good chunk of it to check it out.

[double moo]

Rode from the top of Maple Hollow down this aftrenoon. A couple of small puddles, but dry with no mud. Rode down past th temple, across the silica pit, up canyon hollow a bit, then dropped down to the EQ. All dry.

[accadacca]

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[double moo]

Rode from OS park up CC road, down BST, up gasline--rattler-ghost, upper ghost, CC road to Corral, down annes, down tater, around the horn, down aquaduct, back to OS park. Hit 3 or 4 puddles on upper ghost, the rest of it was dry. We were going to just ride up the road and take a look but everyone we ran into noted the next section was dry and rideable. I was amazed at how dry it was based on the rains we got yesterday.

[accadacca]

Rain last night dicked the upper trails and it was raining when I finished this morning. It's muddy above the gasline to rattler connector. Lower trails aren't too bad with the normal puddles.

[accadacca]

How's the trails?

[double moo]

Great last night! From the Suspension bridge to the Ghost Falls Bridge there were maybe 1/2 dozen puddles, but no real mud to speak of - able to skirt aroud nearly all of the puddles. I heard it was muddy above the bridge though.

[Iceaxe]

It was muddy today at 3:00. No way to even get to Ghost Falls without destroying the trail. BST and below were ridable if you picked your routes wisely.

[accadacca]

I hate getting my bike muddy. I had to stop and spray it off at the car wash on Monday. Only a spot or two that totally trashed it...

[Iceaxe]

With the gas line construction all the north side trials are a crowded cattle stampede, but the south side trails see little traffic. Use that information as you like.

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[accadacca]

These guys are doing trail work this morning around coyote.

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[Iceaxe]

They were up by Potato Hill this afternoon. I think they are doing wildfire prevention/control and not trail work.

[accadacca]

Yeah as I came down from BST back to coyote, the trail looked different, like they torched a bunch of stuff.

[accadacca]

Well I thought maybe it would be dry by tomorrow morning. Then a couple storms started passing through. Bloody hell...

[Iceaxe]

Tomorrow afternoon at the earliest. I hear it was a mud fest in CC today. I just hope the asshats didn't rip the trails up to bad the past few days.

[accadacca]

Yeah damn. It's been a rough last few weeks for riding.

[tallsteve]

I am in full-blown trail work mode up AF Canyon so my riding of late has been diminished anyway. This rain sucks though, Here's to dry trails soon!

[tallsteve]

I was able to get in a short, quick ride yesterday afternoon at Lambert Park to test out the new 1x11 drivetrain. I ran across this big feller on the Zag Trail. This guy was really chunky for a Great Basin Rattler. Must be well fed!

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