Mystery and Confusion on Bogley

[Scott Card]

Well, I am now completely confused. The thread about the sexualization of female athletes gets sent to the basement under the guise of being political? Say what? Political? What in the world is Bogley's definition of political? The political forum has been political with a smattering of religion bashing. But a discussion of the media and the perception of women being a "political" topic is quite the mystery. Why not the sport forum? Why move it at all?

Yet, the misleading and clearly rubbish filled thread entitled "London 2012" remains in the supposed family friendly "General Section". :crazycobasa: :facepalm1:

"Lucy, You got some 'splainin' to do!
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[Deathcricket]

I love the last 2 raps of Mystery! Especially when the hanging garden is in bloom. :2thumbs:

rest of the canyon is alright though.

[jman]

I love the last 2 raps of Mystery! Especially when the hanging garden is in bloom. :2thumbs:

rest if the canyon is alright though.

That's funny, I first thought that too

[Deathcricket]

That's funny, I first thought that too

:2thumbs:

you should move this to the canyoneering section.

[Scott Card]

:2thumbs:

you should move this to the canyoneering section.It'll probably happen. I said Mystery! :facepalm1:

[rockgremlin]

Mystery? Oh I thought you said Misery....I liked Misery. 'Specially that warm pool at the end...<snippity, snip,snip>

[Felicia]

Bogley is becoming a cliquish teenage boy's club.

Over the years I've been eager to share Bogley.com with new friends. Recently I find myself referring people to Bogley, but warning them not to enter the basement. The last time I referred Bogley to a female friend I told her to join, but not post until she had familiarized herself with the characters.

I will continue to participate (mostly read) Bogley, but I will no longer feel comfortable referring friends to this site.

Party on boys.

Felicia

[jman]

Bogley is becoming a cliquish teenage boy's club.

Over the years I've been eager to share Bogley.com with new friends. Recently I find myself referring people to Bogley, but warning them not to enter the basement. The last time I referred Bogley to a female friend I told her to join, but not post until she had familiarized herself with the characters.

I will continue to participate (mostly read) Bogley, but I will no longer feel comfortable referring friends to this site.

Party on boys.

Felicia

I don't disagree with your statement. It has definitely evolved (or de-evolved some may say) over the years.

Definitely has become more a general chat forum more than a outdoor forum, in my opinion. Not bad. Not good. Just what it is.

[rockgremlin]

Bogley is becoming a cliquish teenage boy's club.

Over the years I've been eager to share Bogley.com with new friends. Recently I find myself referring people to Bogley, but warning them not to enter the basement. The last time I referred Bogley to a female friend I told her to join, but not post until she had familiarized herself with the characters.

I will continue to participate (mostly read) Bogley, but I will no longer feel comfortable referring friends to this site.

Party on boys.

Felicia


I edited my last post...does that help? For the record, I turned 20 like, 20 years ago, so I can't be included in the teenage boys club anymore. I tried. They wouldn't let me.

[rockgremlin]

OK, by a raise of hands, how many of you are active members of other forums? I'm a member of three others, and this kind of banter is prevalent in all three. Everyone ignores the clowns, and they go their merry way.







And I'm trying to get to 5,000 posts, so just humor me.

[tanya]

Well, I am now completely confused. The thread about the sexualization of female athletes gets sent to the basement under the guise of being political? Say what? Political? What in the world is Bogley's definition of political? The political forum has been political with a smattering of religion bashing. But a discussion of the media and the perception of women being a "political" topic is quite the mystery. Why not the sport forum? Why move it at all?

Yet, the misleading and clearly rubbish filled thread entitled "London 2012" remains in the supposed family friendly "General Section". :crazycobasa: :facepalm1:

"Lucy, You got some 'splainin' to do!
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So well said. Can I get your number for when I need a lawyer? :hail2thechief:

[tanya]

Bogley is becoming a cliquish teenage boy's club.

Over the years I've been eager to share Bogley.com with new friends. Recently I find myself referring people to Bogley, but warning them not to enter the basement. The last time I referred Bogley to a female friend I told her to join, but not post until she had familiarized herself with the characters.

I will continue to participate (mostly read) Bogley, but I will no longer feel comfortable referring friends to this site.

Party on boys.

Felicia

Exactly. I often want to click like/share on the first post so goes on my FB thread, but then I think pretty much the same things you said and decline. :2thumbs:

[tanya]

OK, by a raise of hands, how many of you are active members of other forums? I'm a member of three others, and this kind of banter is prevalent in all three. Everyone ignores the clowns, and they go their merry way.







And I'm trying to get to 5,000 posts, so just humor me.


The clowns here do have their charms is the problem. :twisted: I don't think any of us want to ignore, them we women simply want respect! and... it's more than that. We don't want women presented here as sex objects for male amusement at all! Women are beautiful, and I find myself looking at them far more than I do men. Any thoughts you animals have, just keep to yourself. We have evolved that much I think that the human race should be able to do this. Also understand that women, girls --- want attention - try giving them an appropriate kind instead of what comes easy for both sexes. Both you and the female will feel much better!


I almost never venture to that thing called politics, so I cannot comment on that area.




ONE MORE ROCK!!!!!! :hail2thechief:

[Iceaxe]

I came to this thread expecting a little more Scooby-doo....

http://www.automopedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mystery-machine3.jpg


Never mind..... Scooby solved the Mystery.

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[Deathcricket]

OK, by a raise of hands, how many of you are active members of other forums? I'm a member of three others, and this kind of banter is prevalent in all three. Everyone ignores the clowns, and they go their merry way.







And I'm trying to get to 5,000 posts, so just humor me.

*Raises hand*

And besides the dude started a thread complaining/whining about another thread getting moved to another forum. Y U so serious?

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[Iceaxe]

OK, by a raise of hands, how many of you are active members of other forums?

I belong to a dozen forums, but only three I participate in daily. The others I stop by once a week to see what's up.

Of the forums where I'm a regular this is by far the tamest.


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[tanya]

I almost never go to forums anymore. Bogely would be the one I post in the most, and if I am not posting, I am not reading. When I find a thread like this, then I come here. Most of the time I just scan and it's just guy stuff I am not too interested in. When it's a post that actually involves women, without advertising them as sex objects, then I feel like getting involved in the conversation.

[ratagonia]

For the record, I turned 20 like, 20 years ago, so I can't be included in the teenage boys club anymore. I tried. They wouldn't let me.

On the Interwebs, you can be any age you want.

T :moses:

[Sombeech]

Hate to be called just another general topic forum, we try to be accommodating to the outdoor crowd. After all, our outdoor sections are the busiest here.

Suggestions?

I would add that the recent popular thread "sexualization of female athletes" has a current lifespan of less than 2 weeks, and from my light skimming of it seems to have some decent back and forth discussion. I'm not sure who moved it to the Political Section but I'm not opposed to the decision, it's out of the general public view, had plenty of political flavor, and those committed to the debate are free to continue it. I hope this minor blip on the bogley lifespan hasn't been a major deciding factor on your participation here, whomever you may be.

We've got a mixed group here, diversity gives us strength. We also cannot read every thread let alone every post. There are multiple ways to contact us; Private Message works, and even the user tagging will get us "on location" to the thread by using @Sombeech (http://www.bogley.com/forum/member.php?u=6) for example. Just typing the name "Sombeech" or "accadacca" may go unnoticed even if it's in the thread title, but the tagging feature works very well.

If you contact us on facebook, eww.... please don't make it an ugly public wall post.

So, there will be some threads that you feel don't belong in General Discussion. I agree. Some of the "London 2012" bits can be merged with the Rubbish Bin version. We'll shrug of the contradicting comments of "prudish religious censorship" and "bogley is softcore porn now" when they appear and do our best to accommodate the majority. Can't please everybody. :mrgreen:

Again, we want EVERYBODY to be comfortable viewing bogley in their workplace or even at home around the family. If there is a thread or even a post that makes you think twice about clicking, let's get it fixed.

Here's something we've been tossing back and forth, should we move the General sections more toward the bottom and highlight our bread and butter content up top like canyoneering and such? We've already "kind of" done this by placing the Videos and Newbies sections under General, and nobody complained so it must have been relatively OK. Not a promise, just looking for some feedback. :afro:

[Scott P]

After all, our outdoor sections are the busiest here.

How do you figure?:ne_nau:

General Discussion:

Threads: 10,595
Posts: 114,936

The most popular outdoor section by post is canyoneering.

Canyoneering:

Threads: 3,928
Posts: 48,510

It seems that the General Discussion is the most popular section by far. I can't see the political forum though.

[Sombeech]

How do you figure?:ne_nau:

Just a quick span at recent activity. General Discussion may have the most content over the past 8 years but the total outdoor focused forums have more combined activity. That's the way I see it anyways. Even if there's not, we'll always have a general chat area for things that don't fit elsewhere.

EDIT, here's just a quick snapshot from 5 minutes ago. Sure it's just the "views" but it's a good indication of where the traffic is.

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[ratagonia]

Support -

Also, seems like most of the General Discussion Forum is not very in-depth, while much of the Canyoneering Forum (at least) is pretty high-quality content.

Tom

[Sombeech]

Support -

Also, seems like most of the General Discussion Forum is not very in-depth, while much of the Canyoneering Forum (at least) is pretty high-quality content.

Tom
Thanks Tom

[tanya]

Don't you all just click the button - show me the posts since my last visit? I never even notice what section a post is in. It must be a male thing to do that. So categorical. :lol8:


I am more attracted to a forum where there is a general talk section. I hardly visit my own ZNP Hiking yahoo group, just because there is not one. I simply show up and talk about whatever catches my attention. It's the variety of subjects and choice that keeps people interested.

I do really miss the tech forum out where the tech's seen it and can help members with problems!

[Sombeech]

I do really miss the tech forum out where the tech's seen it and can help members with problems!

The tech forum and such might be good additions as sub forums under the General Discussion. Again, no promises, just jibber jabbing here and checking the reaction :mrgreen:

[Iceaxe]

I like the general forum as it weeds out all the riff-raff. Most of the crap gets placed in general, which tends to keep the topic specific forums filled with high value and high quality topic specific threads.

The moderaters had a similar discussion about the political forum a while back and decided it was a good thing.... because some folks are going to post political information no matter the rules and the political section gives them a place to do it that is easy to avoid if that is not your cup of tea.


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[tanya]

The tech forum and such might be good additions as sub forums under the General Discussion. Again, no promises, just jibber jabbing here and checking the reaction :mrgreen:

This would be good! :afro: I tend to have LOTS of problems. :haha:

[Gambel Oak]

I do read other forums daily like Mountain Project and Utah Climbers, iRunFar, but don't post, mostly to stay up to date with current happenings. For the odd questions that I have I will find a specific forum and do a search, usually finding the answer I want.

I'm here for the outdoor content and even though I have learned to like the many personalities, general chat / videos isn't enough to keep me here.

My two cents is that the forum landing pad, the first thing users see should be the stuff they are searching for on the interwebs. I don't see the analytics but I'm guessing it is the on foot type of stuff. Does the JetBoil work in the cold, do I need a #6 Camalot, how is the snow on trail X, how to canyoneer, west desert...etc. People will find and participate in the genral section but it is the outdoor content that is getting them here. So yes, I wouldn't be disappointed if the general section was moved down. That said, opinions are like lips and a$$h*les, everyone has them. The camera battery is charged and it is time for me to head out. Cheers

[moab mark]

I vote for moving it down.