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    Mystery and Confusion on Bogley

    Well, I am now completely confused. The thread about the sexualization of female athletes gets sent to the basement under the guise of being political? Say what? Political? What in the world is Bogley's definition of political? The political forum has been political with a smattering of religion bashing. But a discussion of the media and the perception of women being a "political" topic is quite the mystery. Why not the sport forum? Why move it at all?

    Yet, the misleading and clearly rubbish filled thread entitled "London 2012" remains in the supposed family friendly "General Section".

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    I love the last 2 raps of Mystery! Especially when the hanging garden is in bloom.

    rest of the canyon is alright though.
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    Mystery and Confusion on Bogley

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathcricket View Post
    I love the last 2 raps of Mystery! Especially when the hanging garden is in bloom.

    rest if the canyon is alright though.
    That's funny, I first thought that too
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    Quote Originally Posted by jman View Post
    That's funny, I first thought that too


    you should move this to the canyoneering section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathcricket View Post


    you should move this to the canyoneering section.
    It'll probably happen. I said Mystery!
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    Mystery? Oh I thought you said Misery....I liked Misery. 'Specially that warm pool at the end...<snippity, snip,snip>
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    Mystery and Confusion on Bogley

    Bogley is becoming a cliquish teenage boy's club.

    Over the years I've been eager to share Bogley.com with new friends. Recently I find myself referring people to Bogley, but warning them not to enter the basement. The last time I referred Bogley to a female friend I told her to join, but not post until she had familiarized herself with the characters.

    I will continue to participate (mostly read) Bogley, but I will no longer feel comfortable referring friends to this site.

    Party on boys.

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    Mystery and Confusion on Bogley

    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia View Post
    Bogley is becoming a cliquish teenage boy's club.

    Over the years I've been eager to share Bogley.com with new friends. Recently I find myself referring people to Bogley, but warning them not to enter the basement. The last time I referred Bogley to a female friend I told her to join, but not post until she had familiarized herself with the characters.

    I will continue to participate (mostly read) Bogley, but I will no longer feel comfortable referring friends to this site.

    Party on boys.

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    I don't disagree with your statement. It has definitely evolved (or de-evolved some may say) over the years.

    Definitely has become more a general chat forum more than a outdoor forum, in my opinion. Not bad. Not good. Just what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia View Post
    Bogley is becoming a cliquish teenage boy's club.

    Over the years I've been eager to share Bogley.com with new friends. Recently I find myself referring people to Bogley, but warning them not to enter the basement. The last time I referred Bogley to a female friend I told her to join, but not post until she had familiarized herself with the characters.

    I will continue to participate (mostly read) Bogley, but I will no longer feel comfortable referring friends to this site.

    Party on boys.

    Felicia

    I edited my last post...does that help? For the record, I turned 20 like, 20 years ago, so I can't be included in the teenage boys club anymore. I tried. They wouldn't let me.
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    OK, by a raise of hands, how many of you are active members of other forums? I'm a member of three others, and this kind of banter is prevalent in all three. Everyone ignores the clowns, and they go their merry way.







    And I'm trying to get to 5,000 posts, so just humor me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Card View Post
    Well, I am now completely confused. The thread about the sexualization of female athletes gets sent to the basement under the guise of being political? Say what? Political? What in the world is Bogley's definition of political? The political forum has been political with a smattering of religion bashing. But a discussion of the media and the perception of women being a "political" topic is quite the mystery. Why not the sport forum? Why move it at all?

    Yet, the misleading and clearly rubbish filled thread entitled "London 2012" remains in the supposed family friendly "General Section".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia View Post
    Bogley is becoming a cliquish teenage boy's club.

    Over the years I've been eager to share Bogley.com with new friends. Recently I find myself referring people to Bogley, but warning them not to enter the basement. The last time I referred Bogley to a female friend I told her to join, but not post until she had familiarized herself with the characters.

    I will continue to participate (mostly read) Bogley, but I will no longer feel comfortable referring friends to this site.

    Party on boys.

    Felicia
    Exactly. I often want to click like/share on the first post so goes on my FB thread, but then I think pretty much the same things you said and decline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    OK, by a raise of hands, how many of you are active members of other forums? I'm a member of three others, and this kind of banter is prevalent in all three. Everyone ignores the clowns, and they go their merry way.







    And I'm trying to get to 5,000 posts, so just humor me.

    The clowns here do have their charms is the problem. I don't think any of us want to ignore, them we women simply want respect! and... it's more than that. We don't want women presented here as sex objects for male amusement at all! Women are beautiful, and I find myself looking at them far more than I do men. Any thoughts you animals have, just keep to yourself. We have evolved that much I think that the human race should be able to do this. Also understand that women, girls --- want attention - try giving them an appropriate kind instead of what comes easy for both sexes. Both you and the female will feel much better!


    I almost never venture to that thing called politics, so I cannot comment on that area.




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    I came to this thread expecting a little more Scooby-doo....




    Never mind..... Scooby solved the Mystery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    OK, by a raise of hands, how many of you are active members of other forums? I'm a member of three others, and this kind of banter is prevalent in all three. Everyone ignores the clowns, and they go their merry way.







    And I'm trying to get to 5,000 posts, so just humor me.
    *Raises hand*

    And besides the dude started a thread complaining/whining about another thread getting moved to another forum. Y U so serious?

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    Re: Mystery and Confusion on Bogley

    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    OK, by a raise of hands, how many of you are active members of other forums?
    I belong to a dozen forums, but only three I participate in daily. The others I stop by once a week to see what's up.

    Of the forums where I'm a regular this is by far the tamest.


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    I almost never go to forums anymore. Bogely would be the one I post in the most, and if I am not posting, I am not reading. When I find a thread like this, then I come here. Most of the time I just scan and it's just guy stuff I am not too interested in. When it's a post that actually involves women, without advertising them as sex objects, then I feel like getting involved in the conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    For the record, I turned 20 like, 20 years ago, so I can't be included in the teenage boys club anymore. I tried. They wouldn't let me.
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    Hate to be called just another general topic forum, we try to be accommodating to the outdoor crowd. After all, our outdoor sections are the busiest here.

    Suggestions?

    I would add that the recent popular thread "sexualization of female athletes" has a current lifespan of less than 2 weeks, and from my light skimming of it seems to have some decent back and forth discussion. I'm not sure who moved it to the Political Section but I'm not opposed to the decision, it's out of the general public view, had plenty of political flavor, and those committed to the debate are free to continue it. I hope this minor blip on the bogley lifespan hasn't been a major deciding factor on your participation here, whomever you may be.

    We've got a mixed group here, diversity gives us strength. We also cannot read every thread let alone every post. There are multiple ways to contact us; Private Message works, and even the user tagging will get us "on location" to the thread by using @Sombeech for example. Just typing the name "Sombeech" or "accadacca" may go unnoticed even if it's in the thread title, but the tagging feature works very well.

    If you contact us on facebook, eww.... please don't make it an ugly public wall post.

    So, there will be some threads that you feel don't belong in General Discussion. I agree. Some of the "London 2012" bits can be merged with the Rubbish Bin version. We'll shrug of the contradicting comments of "prudish religious censorship" and "bogley is softcore porn now" when they appear and do our best to accommodate the majority. Can't please everybody.

    Again, we want EVERYBODY to be comfortable viewing bogley in their workplace or even at home around the family. If there is a thread or even a post that makes you think twice about clicking, let's get it fixed.

    Here's something we've been tossing back and forth, should we move the General sections more toward the bottom and highlight our bread and butter content up top like canyoneering and such? We've already "kind of" done this by placing the Videos and Newbies sections under General, and nobody complained so it must have been relatively OK. Not a promise, just looking for some feedback.

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    After all, our outdoor sections are the busiest here.
    How do you figure?

    General Discussion:

    Threads: 10,595
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    The most popular outdoor section by post is canyoneering.

    Canyoneering:

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    It seems that the General Discussion is the most popular section by far. I can't see the political forum though.
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