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04-16-2020, 05:14 PM #41Originally Posted by stefan
it is simply about using the word "sick" with quarantine in ice's meme: quarantine is not about being "sick", it's about being "infectious" or potentially infectious and capable of spreading something contagious.
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04-16-2020 05:14 PM # ADS
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04-16-2020, 05:39 PM #42
I am going to throw this out there, I don't think the quarantine thing and most of the orders to stay put for now are nefarious or motivated by a governmental freedom grab. Just sayin'. What I am not saying is that we should give the government a pass. I believe that we should keep a vigilant eye on the government, now and always. I just don't buy into the evil motives so many are throwing out there.
BTW, I was talking to my dry cleaner yesterday. He was telling me about some conspiracy theorists that had been in that day, one in particular who went off on how all this is one ginormous conspiracy. I asked if the guy dropped off his tin foil hat for cleaning.Life is Good
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04-16-2020, 05:53 PM #43
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04-16-2020, 06:19 PM #44
it's not semantics, ice. you don't need to be sick to be infectious/contagious. you just need to be capable of spreading it.
the timing of being contagious and being sick (if one becomes sick) varies. with covid-19 (unlike SARS) you are contagious before you show any symptoms (as well as during). and other people who never show any symptoms and never are sick (as in the article i posted) can still be contagious and spread it.
and, without knowing from testing (and with some testing producing false negatives), if one has been exposed to a virus that's particularly contagious, then there is a higher probability of having been infected.
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04-16-2020, 06:36 PM #45
Bottomline... restricting people to their homes is tyranny...
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04-16-2020, 09:01 PM #46
Watch out. The WHO has set their sights on your alcohol.
https://www.usnews.com/news/national...irus-lockdownsI learn from the mistakes of people who took my advice.
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04-16-2020, 09:45 PM #47
^^^ #FakeNews ^^^
That's a bunch of bull crap... back in my single days I would drink beer, enjoy a few Tequila shots and pick up strippers in this bar... If anything I'm immune to Coronavirus.
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04-17-2020, 08:06 AM #48
That will teach the little bogger eaters to use proper social distancing...
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04-17-2020, 08:21 AM #49
^^^ I'll bet that smelled lovely.
It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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04-17-2020, 08:29 AM #50
Something had to be done to bring some of the air pollution back after they took all of the cars off the roads. I guess that works.
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04-17-2020, 02:07 PM #51
Just FYI for you legal guys
Judge lets cops jail anyone SUSPECTED of being sick with coronavirus
A Michigan judge has issued an order authorizing a county health officer and police to arrest and jail anyone they suspect of being sick with the coronavirus.
The order includes a blank line for the names of anyone arrested to be filled out later, said the Great Lakes Justice Center, which called the order unconstitutional.
Judge Mark Trusock of the 17th Circuit Court issued the order in response to a request by Kent County Health Officer Adam London.
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The judge ruled that any "carrier and health threat" presented with a copy of his order "may be involuntarily detained by a peace officer, transported to and detained in an Involuntary Isolation Facility selected by the Health Officer for observation, testing, and/or treatment."
https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/judge-co...k-coronavirus/I'm not Spartacus
It'll come back.
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04-17-2020, 03:04 PM #52
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04-17-2020, 03:15 PM #53
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04-17-2020, 04:00 PM #54
Never said they wouldn't try. I just don't believe that there is some grand evil motive for being stupid. I believe the most stories like this are fear based, not some sort of commie, evil, orchestrated servitude thing that the government is rolling out. I am glad for watchdogs. I consider myself one of them. I happen to deal with freedom and constitutional issues all the time in my criminal defense work. I have had to point out to numerous Judges that the constitution has been violated by the government (cops) and I have even appealed decisions that judges have gotten wrong. I understand that there may be breaches of the constitution going on but I don't buy into the intent being inferred.
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04-17-2020, 04:20 PM #55I'm not Spartacus
It'll come back.
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04-18-2020, 03:59 PM #56
You ain't kidding about that. I went to the Spiral Jetty with some of the kids this morning, and I couldn't believe how many people were there. I've never been out there when there was another soul around, but now it's a freakin' playground. There were vehicles parking all the way down the road 1/2 mile or more away just because it was impossible to get anywhere near the parking lot.
Also, the parking lot of the Golden Spike visitor's center is now a staging area for folks to head out into the west dessert on ATVs and side by sides. It was utter madness.
People are getting stir crazy around here. Box Elder is a rural county. You can't keep rednecks cooped up for too long or they get nuts. I think we're there now.
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04-18-2020, 06:21 PM #57
Note to self: Avoid Spiral Jetty for now...
It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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04-18-2020, 07:01 PM #59
Freedom
Yeah I knew it was going to be a nut farm, so I stayed home today.
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04-19-2020, 06:00 AM #60
Modern day Rosa Parks?
https://lawandcrime.com/covid-19-pan...t-home-orders/I learn from the mistakes of people who took my advice.
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