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Thread: Moab being loved to death....
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06-05-2018, 07:41 AM #21
Sadly for her, the days of a sleepy little Moab are long over. But if she's been there a long time she is also benefiting from all of that tourist money. I have a buddy who runs a business in Moab and he says his biggest problem is keeping his entry level positions filled. Even the grocery store is now paying $15/hour. Economic times are good in Moab now and it's due almost 100% thanks to the tourism industry. I feel her pain, but this is happening everywhere now as our population continues to increase. It could be worse, she could live in Vernal.
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06-05-2018 07:41 AM # ADS
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06-05-2018, 08:01 AM #22
This is an outstanding article. It's kind of long, but worth the read. Here's a few interesting quotes I found especially poignant:
- This is the pursuit of Nature in 2018. This is what it’s becoming. This is what our lives are becoming. We cannot stand to be ‘dis-connected.’ The mere thought of it terrifies most of us. If the silence and solitude of Nature and wilderness are no longer qualities we long for, then what exactly is it we’re trying to save?
- The "...Disneyfication of Wilderness areas..."
- And so, we offer a lament, as the love and longing for the quiet moment, passed along from generation to generation, for more than a century, from Thoreau to Muir to Leopold to Abbey, draws to a close. The solitude is there, if you know where to look for it, but who’s looking? And who would notice or care if it went away? Is that a bad thing? Who knows? Maybe not. But Ralph Waldo Emerson once wrote, “Adopt the pace of nature: her secret is patience.” The world has lost patience with Nature these days. They’ll never know what they threw away.It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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06-05-2018, 10:22 AM #23
Quite the pickle. If they would just tell us exactly when to enjoy the outdoors and how, maybe we could stop being so offensive.
Get outside and enjoy the outdoors, they said.
No, no, just a few of you.
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06-05-2018, 10:26 AM #24
^^^That kid looks like Harry Potter with dreads.
It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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06-05-2018, 11:51 AM #25
My best guess is that it's female. However, I'd certainly want a look at the pud before moving in for a smooch.
Suddenly my feet are feet of mud
It all goes slo-mo
I don't know why I am crying
Am I suspended in Gaffa?
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06-05-2018, 02:59 PM #26
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06-05-2018, 07:52 PM #27
@Sombeech Its not that people are going outdoors, its the people that go out and try to bring the indoors out with them. They have to be connected, they want paved trails and starbucks close by, they want to drive up snap the pic and then get back to A/C and cable television.
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06-05-2018, 08:29 PM #28
Right on. I see it this way as well. There are a hell of a lot more RVs out roamin' around than there used to be. Lots of vans and small setups. Plenty of big boys, too.
Ya know what? I'm just glad the places way back there are still too much work for them. I hope the wilderness areas don't get beat down if somehow people figure out how to get in better shape.Suddenly my feet are feet of mud
It all goes slo-mo
I don't know why I am crying
Am I suspended in Gaffa?
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06-05-2018, 08:45 PM #29
well, if its not full dress Harleys with their sound system at 100dB, now its cyclists with their bluetooth Speakers cranked all the way up. Either way, I don't want to have someone else's music jammed into my audio input (so to speak). Thank goodness there is still respite out on the (foot) trial (well, mostly)
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06-06-2018, 07:45 AM #30
Funny, speaking of the over populated mill creek canyon in moab, I just so happened to see in my Facebook feed today, yes in June, some photos from a hiker saying he was alone in mill creek. In June!
So take the "100-1000 mill creek visitors each day" with a some skepticism. I'm sure it can peak at those numbers occasionally, on a special weekend, but believe it or not you can still find solitude here.
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06-06-2018, 08:50 AM #31
In many ways this is like a lot of good things in life.... everyone wants to have access to all the goodies, but then they want to close the gate behind them.
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06-06-2018, 10:34 AM #32
Apparently, Kiley Miller is not some "poor lady" or a resident of Moab from before the tourist boom...in fact she is part of the problem. She moved to Moab about 20 years ago because her and her friend fell in love with the area and the rock climbing opportunities.
Lots of stuff on Google about her.
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06-06-2018, 10:36 AM #33
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06-06-2018, 10:38 AM #34
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06-06-2018, 01:30 PM #35
nimby's
But if I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.
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06-06-2018, 02:01 PM #36
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06-06-2018, 05:53 PM #37
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06-06-2018, 08:58 PM #38
As a lot of you know I spend a lot of time in Moab and the neighborhood that she talking about is a private little neighborhood that is brand new on the road going up to the parking lot. If those people that bought a house in there did not realize the problem that was going to be there it's their own fault. Yes there is no question the area is being overrun by tourists but it's been being overrun for years and those people that built that neighborhood bought those homes knew what they were getting into. I mean good hell for the last 3 or 4 years the sheriff's is out on the main road blocking the road during Jeep Safari because there's so much stinking traffic they can't control it.
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06-06-2018, 09:00 PM #39
I will tell you though three or four of those homes that are back on the river I would die to own one of them they are in a really nice spot.
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06-06-2018, 09:02 PM #40
Maybe Zion could loan them some of their buses.
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