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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon View Post
    Digging the Fantasy Politics commentary. There's just not enough popcorn to last nearly 4 years - or is there?

    Fantasy?!?

    There was nothing in that post that was not absolute and undeniable fact.

    CHECK - Ryan's bill was extremely unpopular with only 17% support.
    CHECK - Trump would have owned healthcare.
    CHECK - The media would beat him unmercifully for the next 4 years with every single healthcare issue and problem.

    So where is the fantasy?!?



    Trump is neither a Democrat or Republican, he is a populist. Trump is also a pragmatic, The sooner both sides figure that out the sooner both sides will be able to get shit done.

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  3. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    Fantasy?!?

    There was nothing in that post that was not absolute and undeniable fact.

    CHECK - Ryan's bill was extremely unpopular with only 17% support.
    CHECK - Trump would have owned healthcare.
    CHECK - The media would beat him unmercifully for the next 4 years with every single healthcare issue and problem.

    So where is the fantasy?!?



    Trump is neither a Democrat or Republican, he is a populist. Trump is also a pragmatic, The sooner both sides figure that out the sooner both sides will be able to get shit done.
    Not questioning any facts. "Fantasy Politics" as in a Superbowl, winner/loser attitude toward politics.

  4. #163
    More WINNING!

    Consumer confidence in March soared to the highest level in more than 16 years, according to data released Tuesday. The Conference Board said its consumer confidence index leapt to 125.6 in March from 116.1 in February. Consumer confidence has taken off since the election of President Donald Trump.

    Tick... Tick... Tick...

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  7. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian in SLC View Post
    Interim President Pence?
    There is no such thing as an interim president in the US Democratic Republic. You are either president or you are not.

    Your complete lack of understanding about our government, how it functions and it's constitutional responsibilities surprises me.

  8. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    There is no such thing as an interim president in the US Democratic Republic. You are either president or you are not.

    Your complete lack of understanding about our government, how it functions and it's constitutional responsibilities surprises me.
    Article II section 1.

    Edit to add: 25th amendment. "Acting" president. In the "interim". Ha ha.

    President Hatch?

  9. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian in SLC View Post
    Article II section 1.

    Edit to add: 25th amendment. "Acting" president. In the "interim". Ha ha.

    President Hatch?
    Try again sport... unless you really think Trump will write a letter appointing Pence acting president, which can be reversed at any time by a second letter from Trump stating he is resuming command.

    Trumps here to stay, probably easier to just get used to it.

    Gorsuch should also be sworn in to SCOTUS next week, so Trumps work is done. Everything else we get from him is just titties and beer.

  10. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    Anyway, it is certainly possible (probably even likely) that Russia did try to meddle in the election. One reason I am not concerned that much about it is because the US does this all the time, including among our allies. It is hypocritical to make a big deal about it and cry foul since the US does the same thing on a regular basis.
    https://theintercept.com/2017/02/28/...-s-and-russia/

    Is it true, as Putin claims, that the U.S., in fact, “has long funded media outlets and civil-society groups that meddle in Russian affairs”? Again, the article believes it’s significant enough to note that Putin claims this, but never bothers to tell its readers whether it is actually true, or even if evidence exists for it.

    What makes this steadfast silence so bizarre is that there’s virtually no question that it is true. Some have noted the 1996 Time magazine cover boasting of how U.S. advisers helped the U.S.’ preferred candidate, Boris Yeltsin, win Russia’s presidency. And, of course, the U.S. has continually and repeatedly interfered in the domestic political processes, including democratic elections, of more countries than one can count.

    But far more relevant, and more recent, are the very active efforts on the part of the U.S. government to alter Russian civic society more to its liking. Many of these efforts, needless to say, are covert, but many are not. Here’s the National Endowment for Democracy — funded by the U.S. Congress through the State Department — openly touting the dozens of Russian political groups it funds.

    Attachment 86196

    Bonus: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39401637

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  12. #170
    Russia is all the left has to hang their hat on. They will attempt to beat Trump with this for the next four years, kind of like the right beat Obama over his place of birth.




  13. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    They will attempt to beat Trump with this for the next four years...
    No doubt. And probably to Trump's net benefit. Bet he's happy for the no-effort distraction.

  14. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon View Post
    No doubt. And probably to Trump's net benefit. Bet he's happy for the no-effort distraction.
    Won't be a benefit to him or the country. Will be a gigantic distraction...or...will gain traction. Dunno. We'll see what deal Flynn cuts and what he knows and is willing to share. Of course, the POTUS tweeted that's its just a witch hunt...so, that must be true...

    And, its not all the "left" has to hang their hat on. If Russia could use any information to influence US policy to their benefit, then, this reeks. Reeks.

    Impeachment..."treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors".

    If the Trump campaign conspired with Russia...

    If folks were bribed...

    If there's a conflicts of interests...and that pesky Emoluments Clause of the Constitution..the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act...well...its just hugely (huuuge) uncharted territory. That alone with keep the "left" plenty busy.



    Never a dull minute!

  15. #173
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian in SLC View Post
    Won't be a benefit to him or the country. Will be a gigantic distraction...or...will gain traction. Dunno. We'll see what deal Flynn cuts and what he knows and is willing to share.

    Asking for immunity anytime you are dealing in what "might eventually" be a criminal matter is standard operating procedure. It stops you from getting snowballed in any eventual collateral damage. Only a complete dumbass would volunteer information without immunity or talk without a lawyer present.

    FWIW - Something like 8 Clinton staffers asked for and were granted immunity during her server investigation and they all had a lawyer present.

    Flynn is a giant Nothingburger, I'll be happy to take wagers on the outcome if you feel differently.







    And in the real news!

    Gorsuch is about to become a member of SCOTUS!

    And as of today there is about a 50/50 chance he will do it without having to break a filibuster. The Democrats would be totally retarded to force the GOP to go nuclear on this nominee as Gorsuch is pretty mainstream. Democrats would be well advised to save their arrows on this nominee, as they will need them in the near future.

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  21. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    Donating his first quarter salary ($78,000 bucks) to the National Parks Service.

    Love him or hate him, that's pretty cool.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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  23. #178
    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    Donating his first quarter salary ($78,000 bucks) to the National Parks Service.

    Love him or hate him, that's pretty cool.
    Super cool.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39486543


    Sean Spicer on Monday handed a cheque for $78,333 (£62,786) to Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, who oversees national parks and monuments.
    Mr Trump had previously said he would donate his entire annual salary.
    But critics quickly pointed out his donation went to an agency he wants to cut by more than a billion in funding.
    Mr Trump's budget proposal calls for a 12% ($1.5bn) cut to the Interior Department, which oversees the National Park Service.

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  25. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
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    To me, this is what it's all about. The story of the century really should be how corrupt a major political party had become, and it's exposure. If Hillary would have won, our country would have been handed to a bonafide mafia...with most of the major media on board.

    Whoever blew the lid on these people deserves a medal.

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  26. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon View Post
    Super cool.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39486543


    Sean Spicer on Monday handed a cheque for $78,333 (£62,786) to Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke, who oversees national parks and monuments.
    Mr Trump had previously said he would donate his entire annual salary.
    But critics quickly pointed out his donation went to an agency he wants to cut by more than a billion in funding. Mr Trump's budget proposal calls for a 12% ($1.5bn) cut to the Interior Department, which oversees the National Park Service.
    not to mention the cost his trips to mar-a-lago have cost tax payers ... 3 trips alone may have cost 25 times his annual salary.

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