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03-26-2017, 02:34 PM #141
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03-26-2017 02:34 PM # ADS
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03-26-2017, 05:40 PM #142
^^^ Shane, did you draw that unicorn freehand in MS Paint? If so, I'm impressed. Print that baby out and slap it on the fridge.
It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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03-26-2017, 06:12 PM #143
...and yes, I did listen to Comey's testimony. I guess my two biggest concerns with that are: 1. How can I trust him. How do I know he's not just trying to save his own skin? There's plenty of information out there that could possibly implicate him.
2. Ok, so for the sake of argument, let's assume Russia DID intervene with the election. To what end? Why would Russia want Trump to be president so badly that they would influence the election? Not seeing a clear motive here. Let's hear your best conspiracy theory as to why Russia hates H.R.C. so much.It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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03-26-2017, 07:20 PM #144
1) I don't know how you can trust him. He's the head of the FBI? Didn't do HRC any favors pre election, eh?
2) There's been bad blood between Putin and the Obama admin for some time. Sanctions. Removing "diplomats". Crimea.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...n-putin-226153
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895
Its not really a "conspiracy theory" that Putin is no fan of HRC. They have a well documented dislike of each other.
Mix that in with Trump's talk about NATO, saying that he doubted Russia was even in Crimea...etc etc.
My conspiracy theory..has to do with Russia's main exports, OPEC and Iran. Who's economy stood to take a beatin' if the US made nice nice with Iran? Ditto OPEC keeping the price of a barrel of oil low. Gotta be killin' the Russian oil economy.
Any how...Russia will be interesting to watch. They could implode on their own (latest arrests and protests hitting the wires).
Quite a stew.
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03-26-2017, 07:52 PM #145Ok, so for the sake of argument, let's assume Russia DID intervene with the election. To what end? Why would Russia want Trump to be president so badly that they would influence the election? Not seeing a clear motive here. Let's hear your best conspiracy theory as to why Russia hates H.R.C. so much.
Some of them I can think of (none of which are secret) are as follows:
1. Trump isn't a fan of NATO.
2. Trump and Putin are both oil men and Trump wants to scale back on alternative energy as well as pulling out of the Paris agreement.
3. Trump has said that he would negotiate with Assad instead of arming the rebels (I actually agree with Putin and Trump on this as I feel overthrowing Assad will have the same results as it did when overthrowing Saddam).
4. Trump is viewed as being harder on ISIS and Putin hates ISIS (I also share Trump's and Putin's view on this).
Anyway, it is certainly possible (probably even likely) that Russia did try to meddle in the election. One reason I am not concerned that much about it is because the US does this all the time, including among our allies. It is hypocritical to make a big deal about it and cry foul since the US does the same thing on a regular basis.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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03-26-2017, 07:56 PM #146
^^^ Thanks for the great insight, fellas!!
It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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03-26-2017, 08:43 PM #147
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03-26-2017, 11:30 PM #148
Myself and many others will agree.... If Gorsuch is named to SCOTUS Trumps presidency is a success and anything else he accomplishes is just icing on the cake.
With a little luck Trump will also get to replace Ginsberg, that would be outstanding. I seriously doubt RBG will live 4 more years as her health is failing.
It also looks like Trump will get to replace Kennedy as he is considering stepping down while the getting is good.
Talk about hitting the trifecta! That would send this country on my dream trajectory for the rest of my life.
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03-27-2017, 12:30 PM #149
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03-27-2017, 03:23 PM #150
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03-27-2017, 04:09 PM #151
The problem with that strategy is virgins of legal age are becoming kind of rare.
In my humble opinion the left is making a huuuuuge mistake in forcing the GOP to go nuclear to get Gorsuch on the Supreme Court. The left needs to work out some type of deal where they will give Gorsuch the seat provided the 60 votes remains in effect for all future SCOTUS justices. The left really has nothing to lose as Gorsuch will get the seat.
I'm not a fan of simple majorities as it's nothing but two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
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03-27-2017, 06:37 PM #152Suddenly my feet are feet of mud
It all goes slo-mo
I don't know why I am crying
Am I suspended in Gaffa?
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03-27-2017, 08:15 PM #153
POTUS tweet about an hour ago: The Democrats will make a deal with me on healthcare as soon as ObamaCare folds - not long. Do not worry, we are in very good shape!
I think there will be deals...
Funny...can't work within his own party...that he'll consider working the other side of the aisle....interesting.
POTUS tweet: The Republican House Freedom Caucus was able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. After so many bad years they were ready for a win!
His twitter feed is wild!
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03-27-2017, 08:49 PM #154
What's so wild about his Twitter feed? Looks to me as if Trump is simply stating the obvious as he is correct on both counts.
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03-27-2017, 09:57 PM #155
FWIW - The Freedom Caucuss saved Trump's ass and the House Republicans from suicide by Ryan Care.
Ryan's bill was extremely unpopular with only 17% support. If it had of passed it would have torpedoed Trumps presidency as he would have owned healthcare. The media would beat him unmercifully for the next 4 years with every single healthcare issue and problem that came along.
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03-27-2017, 10:17 PM #156
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03-27-2017, 11:41 PM #157
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03-28-2017, 07:42 AM #158I'm not Spartacus
It'll come back.
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03-28-2017, 08:25 AM #159
Politics has always been somewhat of a game, but lately it seems more and more "winner take all" and "now it's my turn" (to undo the stuff the last guy did). Of course this scheme suits the establishment nicely as it keeps us divided and impotent. Seriously, we all have to live with these laws, so why do we not work together to make them better, instead of tearing them apart every 4 to 8 years. over and over again?
Should human health care (for example) be so strongly influenced by ideology? Is it right to profit from an "industry" that is not subject to normal market forces, such as freedom of choice?
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03-28-2017, 01:12 PM #160
Trump throws Obama's clean energy plan out the window:
http://www.ksl.com/?sid=43659435&nid=157
I applaud this move. Needed to be done.
Stop trying to squash the coal industry via executive order. Let natural gas and renewables kill coal organically (pun intended).
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