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Thread: $75 to Rappel Bridal Veil falls
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08-28-2013, 09:23 AM #1
$75 to Rappel Bridal Veil falls
This might not be news to many here, I'm just curious to see other's reaction to this:
Is Bridal Veil doomed to become the next "Corona Arch", or "Birch Hollow"? (I mean in terms of popularity and accident rate)
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08-28-2013 09:23 AM # ADS
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08-28-2013, 09:28 AM #2
So far as accident rates go I'm guessing Bridal Veil already exceeds both Birch and Corona Arch combined. SAR is hauling an injured hiker off the falls at least once a week.
FWIW: Utah High Adventure are also the same guys that operate the zipline and tube rental in Provo Canyon.
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08-28-2013, 10:29 AM #3
Bridal Veil gets WAY more traffic TO the falls, and I imagine that those SAR calls are mostly for those that decided to hike too far up the face and quickly got over their heads. What % of those rescues were people going up there with ropes to do technical recreation? I know this might be a little nit-picky, but we all know the amplification of risk that happens when you add that technical factor. I guess my question is more like a death toll #.(which I think will correlate to increase in people going there for a "high-adventure" rappel AND due to the increased risk factor and higher price of mistakes)
Are we going to hear of more people going up there with their "harbor freight" ropes and paying the ultimate price?
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08-28-2013, 10:48 AM #4
Is this falls on Forest Service property ? If so, do they need a commercial permit to sell this experience?
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08-28-2013, 11:12 AM #5Jared Hillhouse
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08-28-2013, 12:10 PM #6
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08-28-2013, 12:24 PM #7
Is it both the upper and lower falls?
Either way a pretty beefy waterfall for someone with little rappelling experience. Easy to get to and tons of fun for the rest of us though.
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08-28-2013, 12:56 PM #8
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08-29-2013, 01:13 AM #9
I think that rappelling for the sake of rappelling is ridiculous. "Oooo, lets go rappel that waterfall, the most inconvenient place to rappel!"
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08-29-2013, 05:07 AM #10
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08-29-2013, 06:01 AM #11I think that rappelling for the sake of rappelling is ridiculous. "Oooo, lets go rappel that waterfall, the most inconvenient place to rappel!"Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-29-2013, 07:06 AM #12Originally Posted by Bootboy
It is a fun rappel - and yes, just for the sake of rappelling it. True - not "true canyoneering" but still a lot of fun. If you haven't done - I (and others here) would recommend it.
But you guys do know why they chose this spot to rappel, right?? - the exposure! The gaggles of people on the ground looking up (just like the last rap in Mystery) will pique their interest and increase exposure to their business. Makes sense.●Canyoneering 'Canyon Conditions' @ www.candition.com
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08-29-2013, 07:37 AM #13True - not "true canyoneering"
I'm not against rappelling it, or claiming that it might not be fun; I'm just saying that it doesn't have anything to do with canyoneering.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-29-2013, 07:58 AM #14
We call these type of rappels "Stunt Rappels".
YMMV
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08-29-2013, 08:37 AM #15
I don't care what it's called. Close to home, short enough to do after work, scenic, and shit tons of fun on a hot summer night. Add an ice cold beer afterwards...
I love me some ridiculous.
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08-29-2013, 11:10 AM #18
Agreed
I completely dissociate the two activities. While they are not mutually exclusive, simply rappelling down a waterfall as a stunt to show off for a crowd does not constitute "canyoneering"
If you want to run around rappelling down waterfalls for the hell of it, fine, but I'll maintain that I thinks it's ridiculous.
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08-29-2013, 11:23 AM #19There are plenty of canyons in this world that require rappelling down waterfalls.
As Shane said, Bridal Veil Falls is a stunt rappel.
Practicing those skills on rappels like B.V. falls very much applies to enhancing my canyoneering skills!
That doesn't mean it is canyoneering. I learned to rappel off the Fireman's Tower in Ogden Utah. It was not canyoneering. Did I learn some of the skills needed for canyoneering? Certainly.
Does that mean that rappelling off the Fireman's Tower is canyoneering? Nope.
Of perhaps I should just say:
I completely dissociate the two activities. While they are not mutually exclusive, simply rappelling down a waterfall as a stunt to show off for a crowd does not constitute "canyoneering"
What he said.
As said earlier, I have no problem with anyone rappelling off Bridal Veil Falls, guided or unguided. It just shouldn't be associated with a canyoneering route. It's simply a stunt rappel; nothing more and nothing less.
That's my own opinion, like it or loath it, agree or disagree.Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.
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08-29-2013, 12:13 PM #20●Canyoneering 'Canyon Conditions' @ www.candition.com
●Hiking Treks (my younger brother's website): hiking guides @ www.thetrekplanner.com
"He who walks on the edge...will eventually fall."
"There are two ways to die in the desert - dehydration and drowning." -overhearing a Park Ranger at Capitol Reef N.P.
"...the first law of gear-dynamics: gear is like a gas - it will expand to fit the available space." -Wortman, Outside magazine.
"SEND IT, BRO!!"
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