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Thread: Subway still closed? Why?
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05-09-2011, 02:52 PM #21
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05-09-2011 02:52 PM # ADS
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05-09-2011, 04:07 PM #22
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It's been raining like crazy the last 2 days. I wonder what the Subway and Narrows look like. The other waterways I see from the road are flowing pretty heavy.
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05-10-2011, 06:48 PM #23
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05-10-2011, 07:34 PM #24
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You should be able to post photos. I saw a video of it and its crAZY in there.
Welcome!
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05-11-2011, 06:06 AM #25
I still can't post photos. I get an error message that says, "You are not allowed to post any kinds of links, images or videos until you post a few times." I'm familiar with HTML, etc.
Here are the URLs for someone with higher authority and greatness, if such being desires to post them. The photos were taken May 6.
Cascading Waterfalls:
i54.tinypic.com/e6d11c.jpg
Potholes in the Subway:
i56.tinypic.com/2lc7okl.jpg
Subway:
i56.tinypic.com/efky6v.jpg
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05-11-2011, 06:31 AM #26
Wow, here you go, nice shots!
Potholes in the Subway:
Cascading Waterfalls:
Subway:
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05-11-2011, 07:09 AM #27
Thank you. The captions on the first two pictures are switched (edit - this has been corrected). Hopefully the pictures will motivate more people to call and complain about the top down route closure. It would be awesome right now.
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05-11-2011, 08:14 AM #28
I heard that when NPS originally started their proposed plans for permits and regulations they invited the canyoneering community to be involved in the process and only a hand full of canyoneers showed up, is this true? I would think that if experienced people had shown up to the meetings things may be different in the park today. Also if this is the case it is OUR faults for not showing up and voicing OUR opinions; now it is too late and all we can do is complain on bogely. I do not agree with all the parks policies but they are covering their own ass from getting sued if Darwinism occurs.Who know's maybe it's not to late to get involved in changing their policy's.
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05-11-2011, 08:38 AM #29
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05-11-2011, 08:42 AM #30
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05-11-2011, 10:04 AM #31
Ditto the above. We had very good turnouts and a gob of comments. My bet by far the most vocal user group to comment on the management plan and backcountry plan.
ZCC: Kip on the t-shirt! Just dug mine out the other day. Then, talked to the Kipper. Serendipity, baby! I think we drove past each other last weekend, when I made the tactical error of eating at that Buffalo jerky place in Virgin. Shoulda pushed on to Springdale.
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05-11-2011, 12:12 PM #32
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05-11-2011, 12:33 PM #33
The Backcountry office called me back today and said they were hiking into the drainages at lava point and the subway and were going to meet tomorrow to discuss reopening the canyon. Flow through the North Fork is still around 1000 CFS so not sure what it will be like in the subway. anyway, get your calls in this afternoon and lets see if we can sway their votes.
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05-11-2011, 12:43 PM #34
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05-11-2011, 01:05 PM #35
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05-11-2011, 01:13 PM #36
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05-11-2011, 01:50 PM #37
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05-11-2011, 02:31 PM #38
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05-25-2011, 11:07 AM #39
Is there any new information on subway yet? I don't expect the top down will be open, but we have permits for Monday.
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05-25-2011, 03:24 PM #40
When I picked up a permit for Keyhole (just beautiful right now by the way) on Sunday the ranger said they had been in there checking it out the previous day and "there was a lot of water." Shocking to everyone, I know. The whole thing came across as a sort of casual 'who knows when we'll get around to it.'
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