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Thread: Tech Tip: tying the Stone Knot
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01-18-2009, 12:03 AM #1
Tech Tip: tying the Stone Knot
I have added a tech tip on how to tie the Stone Knot to the Latest Rave. Comments and questions welcome.
Tom
http://www.canyoneeringusa.com/rave
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01-18-2009 12:03 AM # ADS
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01-18-2009, 03:51 PM #2
I like that! Quick, easy, and simple to undo. I am always looking for tips on easier, safer ways...
Stop checking my spelling! I know I suck but I amn't in school anymor, so back off.
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01-18-2009, 07:37 PM #3
Re: Tech Tip: tying the Stone Knot
Originally Posted by ratagoniaLife is Good
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01-18-2009, 07:51 PM #4
Very nice presentation - Thank you for sharing!
Tom, how do you know an anchor is ok for two people?
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01-19-2009, 12:16 AM #5
Sweet! Heard of it, but very nicely demonstrated there. Thanks, Tom.
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01-19-2009, 01:43 PM #6Originally Posted by Felicia
complicated.
generally, something really good.
Hard to be more specific. Thinking more like Two New Bolts, Big Tree, Big Rock, absolutely secure chockstone or stuff like that.
T
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01-19-2009, 02:20 PM #7
Re: Tech Tip: tying the Stone Knot
Originally Posted by ratagonia
One thing to note - this knot/hitch does not have to be tied close to the anchor as shown in the pictures. We have several canyons here where the bomber anchor - a large tree - is located 30-40' up on a low slab of granite from where the rappel starts, and by tying a Stone Knot closer to the drop, we actually create an intermediate station for people to clip in to."The ACA is a non-profit organization..."
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01-21-2009, 07:45 PM #8
Hey Tom,
Whats your opinion on, I think it is called a stone eight? Basically feeding both strands through a eight putting a twist in the ropes and dropping the loop over the small end of the eight and then tightening.
Mark
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01-22-2009, 09:13 AM #9Originally Posted by moab mark
But I don't carry an Eight, and I cannot see carrying one just for blocks and contingency anchors. So, the Stone Eight might be perfectly fine, but my preference would be to spend my time and effort learning the knot that works without an extra piece of equipment.
Tom
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01-23-2009, 04:22 AM #10Originally Posted by ratagonia
The Stone Eight is much quicker to rig than the Stone Knot, easier for most people to learn, very simple to inspect, quicker to de-rig for the last person.
Another example is comparing munter-mule to a releasable figure eight. Releasable eight is much quicker to rig, significantly easier for most peope to learn, simple to inspect, doesn't need to be de-rigged in most cases and much quicker to de-rig when necessary.Rich Carlson, Instructor
YouTube Channel: CanyonsCrags
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04-26-2011, 10:33 AM #11
Hey Tom, (yes, you are probably traveling to your slid show this evening.) What is the status with you knot book? Your presentation on this (Stone knot) and the few others was excellent.
Sorry I couldn't make it to the slide show. I have two other committments this evening or I would be there.Life is Good
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