Coronavirus

[BasinCruiser]

My Number : 1-800-EAT-CRAP

Name: Jeffrey Epstein

[rockgremlin]

My Number : 1-800-EAT-CRAP

Name: Jeffrey Epstein

Yes, my name is (pick one):

Seymore Butts
Claude Balls
Alotta Fagina
Amanda Faulk
Wilma Dickfit
Willie Fisterbottom
Willie Dicker
Tess Tickles
Tara Hymen
Ben Dover
Buster Cherry
Stu Pidass
Sig Teenine
Sharon Cox
Craven Moorehead
Dick Parker
Dixie Normous
Sharon Peters
Rosie Palm

Etc...

What's an "NB emergency"?

[BasinCruiser]

What's an "NB emergency"?

New Brunswick (Canada, Eh?) Emergency Measures Act. I believe part of it is what the USDems were pushing for with one of the aid packages, which was to have all restaurants aid in contact tracing through collecting names and contact info of any who eat there.

[BasinCruiser]

More CCP Virus Fake News debunked.

Summary-Friday, it was reported that 85 infants had tested positive in an area of Texas. So, the media naturally jumped on it and claimed that a sudden surge of infants had contracted the virus ( because it’s in Texas).

Truth: that 85 number was total cumulative since March.



https://dailycaller.com/2020/07/19/t...christi-false/

[accadacca]

Chuck Woolery Who Claimed 'Everyone Is Lying' About COVID-19 Deactivates Twitter After Son Contracts It

"My son tested positive for the virus, and I feel for of those suffering and especially for those who have lost loved ones," Chuck Woolery tweeted before deactivating his account

In a tweet that lives on digital archive websites, the former host wrote: "The most outrageous lies are the ones about Covid 19. Everyone is lying. The CDC, Media, Democrats, our Doctors, not all but most ,that we are told to trust. I think it's all about the election and keeping the economy from coming back, which is about the election. I'm sick of it."



https://people.com/health/game-show-...-contracts-it/

[rockgremlin]

So far, I've had 5 in-laws in Bountiful, 2 in-laws in Holiday, and a friend in Cedar City test positive for it. They all tell me the same thing: it's not that bad, it just feels like a mild flu.

[Iceaxe]

I agree 100% with Chuck Woolry.

[DirkHammergate]

I agree 100% with Chuck Woolry.

By deleting your Twitter account? I fully support you in this endeavor.

[Iceaxe]

I don't have a Twitter account... I pee standing up.

[BasinCruiser]

[BasinCruiser]

I agree with Scott on this. Comparing wearing a mask to domestic abuse is ludicrous. You are not mentally scared by having to put a mask on and if you are...well you are mental to begin with.

Edit: you are not physically scared either.

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That's all you got out of that scenario was the mask reference?

[BasinCruiser]

"Forced" is but one of the operative words in this ridiculous photo and caption.

Imagine there is a police incident, an active shooter, and you were "forced" to stay behind the police tape. Your friends and family and office were inside the area taped off. You were told not to leave the area and go inside the danger zone. If you see the shooter, they tell you to duck and cover. Imagine the police threatened that if you crossed the police line they would arrest you for interfering with an arrest and failing to obey a police order. Would you call this abusive???? Come on. These extreme examples are too much. Not all government action is bad. All domestic violence and abuse, IS bad.

When one tells another that they have to stay in their home for practically every reason, tells them they can't go to church, they can only go to a few specific stores only for 'necessities', they can't see family friends, cuts off their income source, does it really matter who it is that is giving the directive to do these things: the state vs. a spouse? When either party uses the threat of force to pressure the other to comply, and when that directive is broken, and force is applied, what it the difference between a husband beating his wife, and the cops showing up and putting one under arrest (1st level of force) with threat of heightened force (lethal) if they don't comply?

[Scott Card]

...., does it really matter who it is that is giving the directive to do these things: the state vs. a spouse?

Yes, yes it does. I never married my government, don't love my government, can't be mentally abused by my government. I have no problem speaking out against my government. I don't have children with my government. I can't vote my abuser out of office. I can't peacefully protest against my abuser.

Have you ever dealt with a victim of domestic violence? Have you ever heard their stories? Have you ever felt the fear, humiliation, dehumanization, shattered spirit of being a victim of domestic violence? I have heard the stories and counseled with hundreds of victims.

So in short, YES it matters who gives the directive. It matters a lot.

[BasinCruiser]

Yes, yes it does. I never married my government, don't love my government, can't be mentally abused by my government. I have no problem speaking out against my government. I don't have children with my government. I can't vote my abuser out of office. I can't peacefully protest against my abuser.

Have you ever dealt with a victim of domestic violence? Have you ever heard their stories? Have you ever felt the fear, humiliation, dehumanization, shattered spirit of being a victim of domestic violence? I have heard the stories and counseled with hundreds of victims.

So in short, YES it matters who gives the directive. It matters a lot.

I completely agree that there is a tremendous phychological affect and emotional impact from domestic abuse - it is a disaster, horrible, and tragic. When imagining myself in many of those situations, i often think I would much rather die than suffer through that type of torment. The daily impact of face to face abuse has got to be completely mindboggling and overwhelming. I never meant to diminish that toll, pain, suffering, anguish, and damage that it causes, and that the victims of domestic abuse experience. And I didn't take the meme to have that intention either. The question it simply posed was: Is this abuse?

I stand by the claim that when the government shuts down large swaths of the economy cutting off peoples income, tries to control where they go and for what by telling them they have to stay in their homes except to go buy only essential goods with predetermined places they can go, restrict them from going to church or seeing family and friends - this is defenitely abuse. it's an abuse of power that is granted to the governement with the intent of establishing liberty and justice. It's an abuse of the trust and expectations that we as a people put in the goverment to protect our freedoms.

But, I think it is also a wrong to overlook the psychological and emotional toll that these governement lockdowns have had on people everywhere. It is what a lot of us had cautioned about when they started happening - increased suicices, domestic abuse, alcohol and drug abuse.

[Byron]

can't be mentally abused by my government.

Oops...shoulda left that one out. Unless of course, you're speaking for yourself...and if you are, that's a pretty good trick.

On the contrary, there are MILLIONS who's minds are jacked one way or another because of government action/directives/decrees/edicts/orders...under threat of arrest or imprisonment. For example...ask a woman who demands to get an abortion at 4 months because she just "wants to"...she's likely to describe a law against it as "abuse". Not to mention those that lose sleep at night because these assholes spew from both sides of their mouths and people just don't know what the hell is going to happen.

Oh yes...the "government" jacks with people's heads all the time. They'll rape anybody's brain to stay in power. That's abuse.

I'm being abused by my local government as we speak...my town is turning into a third world country with anarchist's attacking those that stand against them (peacefully, to boot) and the government is complicit. I only live 7 miles from downtown and have begun thinking about abandoning my property and business because of it. I'll call that abuse all day long.

The thing about being "abused" in any way is the choice of hanging around and taking the hits or packing your bags and moving on.

This mask thing is small potatoes to me...even if the government weren't involved people would still be shitting their pants because "others" aren't doing what "they're supposed to" according to them. Nobody tells me what to do...I only wear a mask when entering a building because I want to avoid a fight (verbally or physically) with some self righteous prick.

Some of these people that are obsessed with masks are abusing themselves, IMO. I saw it just recently while on vacation...hiking a trail in 100 degree heat and seeing these "mask people" freaking out and jumping into the bushes to get away from anyone not wearing one. Their bodies twisting in weird gyrations (some put on quite a show of it) with a look of fear or disgust in their eyes. I think they're pathetic.

[rockgremlin]

Does brainwashing constitute emotional abuse?

I'll just leave this right here.

Socialist dictators use MANY of the points brought out in this video.

[Scott Card]

Abuse = ???? Here is the dictionary definitions, at least some.

a·buse


verb

• 1.use (something) to bad effect or for a bad purpose; misuse:"the judge abused his power by imposing the fines"synonymsmisuse, misapply, misemploy, mishandle, exploit, ... more
• 2.treat (a person or an animal) with cruelty or violence, especially regularly or repeatedly:"riders who abuse their horses should be prosecuted"synonymsmistreat, maltreat, ill-treat, treat badly, ill-use, ... moreantonymslook after

noun

• 1.the improper use of something:"alcohol abuse"synonymsmisuse, misapplication, misemployment, mishandling, exploitation, ... more
• 2.cruel and violent treatment of a person or animal:"a black eye and other signs of physical abuse"synonymsmistreatment, maltreatment, ill treatment, ill use, misuse, rough treatment, manhandling, mishandling, molestation, interference, indecent assault, sexual abuse, sexual assault, assaulting, hitting, striking, beating, injury, hurt, harm, damage, wronging, bullying, persecution, oppression, torture, informal:beating up, roughing up, doing over

I guess you could fit just about any treatment from government into the various definitions of abuse if you don't like it. I always believed that the word "abuse" was an extreme act done to a person. So I guess to respond to you, Byron, I have never felt "abused" by my government. Now, that is not to say that I have not felt annoyed, angered, or lied to, but I have not felt abused. I can certainly see how some may feel that way. I have represented people who I feel have been abused by government. I have taken action on their behalf. I will be taking action in the next day or two on a case here in Utah County.

To your points BasinCruiser, when governments start to slap ankle monitors on people for not signing "promise to quarantine" papers, without due process, I believe that is in fact an abuse of power and I hope those folks get a lawyer and go after their local government. What has happened thus far, at least here in Utah, I would not consider "abuse" and I believe that those making decisions have done the best they can with the available information. Were they right? Well, hindsight is 20/20. That will be determined. I believe what is happening in other parts of the country is in fact an abuse of power and those governments and officials individually should be held accountable both financially and at the ballot box.

[Scott Card]

Does brainwashing constitute emotional abuse?

I'll just leave this right here.

Socialist dictators use MANY of the points brought out in this video.

I would submit that hard right wingers are in the same camp using the same tactics as the Socialist dictators you refer to. Heck, even Pres. Trump uses "gaslighting" as a tactic and uses it frequently. He is very demeaning. Oh and yes, I voted for him and will do so again. Some on this very sight are very crass, vulgar and demeaning in an attempt to shut down discussion and prove a point. It is a pathetic persuasion tactic, but works at times, particularly on the mentally weak and those who don't take the time to ponder, discuss and work through tough personal, moral, and/or social issues.

I would submit that hard right wingers are in the same camp using the same tactics as the Socialist dictators you refer to. Heck, even Pres. Trump uses "gaslighting" as a tactic and uses it frequently. Other characteristics could also be attributed to Pres. Trump. He is very demeaning. Oh and yes, I voted for him and will do so again, at least given the choices we have right now. Some on this very sight are very crass, vulgar and demeaning in an attempt to shut down discussion and prove a point. It is a pathetic persuasion tactic, but works at times, particularly on the mentally weak and those who don't take the time to ponder, discuss and work through tough personal, moral, and/or social issues.

[Byron]

Heck, even Pres. Trump uses "gaslighting" as a tactic and uses it frequently. Other characteristics could also be attributed to Pres. Trump. He is very demeaning.

Y'know Scott...it's interesting how two people can be looking at the same thing, yet see it so differently. Yes, he is crass and demeaning...but it seems to me that his "attacks" are usually a knee jerk reaction to his being attacked. "Little Marco Rubio" for example...that one goes way back but pretty much set the stage. "Low energy Jeb" as well. Those guys laughed at Trump as being irrelevant...and his comeback is more or less "F*ck you, pipsqueak".

It would be nice if he was a eloquent as Reagan was. That guy could insult you without you even knowing it. And it is surprising that Trump can be so unrefined given his business acumen and upbringing. But I don't see him as deliberately viscous...especially given the insults he's had to endure and what he has to deal with. He's having to do business with people that would applaud his death. I would advise him to hire a professional speech/comic writer to respond in a more clever way. Joe Biden certainly isn't much better...he's combative, rude and dumb as a rock.

Gaslighting is a political tactic, everyone uses it. Obama certainly did...between his crying fits and stuttering monologues. George W. however...I don't think he was smart enough to figure it out.

[rockgremlin]

Y'know Scott...it's interesting how two people can be looking at the same thing, yet see it so differently. Yes, he is crass and demeaning...but it seems to me that his "attacks" are usually a knee jerk reaction to his being attacked. "Little Marco Rubio" for example...that one goes way back but pretty much set the stage. "Low energy Jeb" as well. Those guys laughed at Trump as being irrelevant...and his comeback is more or less "F*ck you, pipsqueak".

It would be nice if he was a eloquent as Reagan was. That guy could insult you without you even knowing it. And it is surprising that Trump can be so unrefined given his business acumen and upbringing. But I don't see him as deliberately viscous...especially given the insults he's had to endure and what he has to deal with. He's having to do business with people that would applaud his death. I would advise him to hire a professional speech/comic writer to respond in a more clever way. Joe Biden certainly isn't much better...he's combative, rude and dumb as a rock.

Gaslighting is a political tactic, everyone uses it. Obama certainly did...between his crying fits and stuttering monologues. George W. however...I don't think he was smart enough to figure it out.

Indeed, Obama could be downright condescending at times (especially in regards to Trump). And George W....welllll....without knowing him personally, I'll just say that he was "not very articulate."

It has been a long time since this country has had an intelligent, well spoken, and respected leader at the helm. I think Trump is a pretty intelligent guy -- there's a reason why he's the president and sitting atop a mountain of money. You don't get there because you're dumb. I just wish he would be less polarizing and inflammatory.