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    Quote Originally Posted by blueeyes View Post
    Interesting account of someone who is recovering from COVID.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...&id=1357907934

    Obviously being on FB it could be fabricated but it fits the picture I have been reading over and over again and from other things I have heard.

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    Sounds very correct as my friend's husband in New Orleans is going through what sounds identical. My friend, her teenage son and her husband have all had it, but he ended up in the hospital 2 days ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blueeyes View Post
    Interesting account of someone who is recovering from COVID.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...&id=1357907934

    Obviously being on FB it could be fabricated but it fits the picture I have been reading over and over again and from other things I have heard.

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    Thanks... this is the most worthwhile item yet posted in this forum on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    So, why hospital ships? Why couldn't victims of human trafficking be corralled in warehouses or other structures?

    If the hospital ships were necessary for containing trafficking victims, then one could imply that the outbreak of Covid-19 was planned by the federal government all along.
    Because the vast majority of these victims need medical care and nourishment.

    I'm still giving it time and like I said, I'll be the first to say I was way off, but I'm giving it about another week to let things happen and come to light.

    These kids are slaves, even impregnated with infant slaves, farmed. I could say some pretty crazy things that I'm seeing lined up, but they would sound absolutely NUTS. So I'm just going to make sure it plays out before I give too many details.

    As far as lining up with COVID19 timing, this rescue of the children was used during this time. Wherever the virus came from, whether it was planned or just happened (weird how some of them line up with election years), Intelligence will find out, if they haven't already.

    Who does the NSA work for? Who did certain Gov't agencies THINK the NSA would be working for, after 2016 election? Can you imagine if there are big secrets they thought would be safe, are now totally known by Trump?

    Mass shootings can't happen right now. Mass protests are gone, no Caravans marching to the US border (did anybody believe a father carried a baby in his arms for 400 miles straight? What a farce) So what can "they" do to guide the media narrative? Weird stuff, like driving trains into the hospital ships. Watch for buses. And I hate to say this, I hope nobody attacks any hospitals.

    I'm just waiting it out, saving the world by watching TV. We'll see what happens, not much we can do about any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    Because the vast majority of these victims need medical care and nourishment.

    I'm still giving it time and like I said, I'll be the first to say I was way off, but I'm giving it about another week to let things happen and come to light.

    These kids are slaves, even impregnated with infant slaves, farmed. I could say some pretty crazy things that I'm seeing lined up, but they would sound absolutely NUTS. So I'm just going to make sure it plays out before I give too many details.

    As far as lining up with COVID19 timing, this rescue of the children was used during this time. Wherever the virus came from, whether it was planned or just happened (weird how some of them line up with election years), Intelligence will find out, if they haven't already.

    Who does the NSA work for? Who did certain Gov't agencies THINK the NSA would be working for, after 2016 election? Can you imagine if there are big secrets they thought would be safe, are now totally known by Trump?

    Mass shootings can't happen right now. Mass protests are gone, no Caravans marching to the US border (did anybody believe a father carried a baby in his arms for 400 miles straight? What a farce) So what can "they" do to guide the media narrative? Weird stuff, like driving trains into the hospital ships. Watch for buses. And I hate to say this, I hope nobody attacks any hospitals.

    I'm just waiting it out, saving the world by watching TV. We'll see what happens, not much we can do about any of it.

    I had read a report that as of a couple of days ago, there was reportedly Ďonlyí 20-40 patients in the one at NYC, and there was big mystery surrounding that: If the NYC area hospitals are overwhelmed with sick and dieing, why are they so few patients at this boat hospital?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erial View Post
    and from the spouse's point of view:

    https://www.therunnerstrip.com/2020/...g-catastrophe/
    Don't bother. It's another Trump bashing piece. From the article:

    "And perhaps the most unsettling thing is the asinine, dangerous president."

    Wow she's so enlightened. So progressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    Don't bother. It's another Trump bashing piece. From the article:

    "And perhaps the most unsettling thing is the asinine, dangerous president."

    Wow she's so enlightened. So progressive.

    C'mon, she's an accomplished runner despite having two left feet.

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    How do you continue to power the fear and panic when you thought it couldnít get any worse? Gift the numbers to increase the death more than it is to retain panic and control.


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    The ships are not for Covid-19 patients.
    And I'm sorry but Beech did you fall off your E-bike and bump your head?

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    @blueeyes- is there any truth or validity in this? Or is this rubbish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by middlefork View Post
    The ships are not for Covid-19 patients.
    And I'm sorry but Beech did you fall off your E-bike and bump your head?

    This site is a breath of fresh air.
    Gimme a week to figure it out

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    So, what’s really is the difference in the response and reaction to Chinese Wuhan Virus (CWV) compared to H1N1? Why are the hospitals in the hotspots being overwhelmed? Was H1N1 less spreadable, age has more of a gradual climb that was more like a trickle that slowly grew andSight need ventilators, and is CWV more easily spreadable and requires more equipment? Or are they just taking more drastic measures trying to save as many people as possible? I’m not condemning the effort and objective if that’s the case, just trying to understand the difference in responses in the medical field, government, and Msm.


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    "Where there is no law, there is no opportunity, where there is no justice, there is no liberty, where there is no safety, there is no future."

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    ^^^The biggest difference is Trump is President. Liberals and their "news" mouthpiece will do anything to remove him from power, including destroy the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    ^^^The biggest difference is Trump is President. Liberals and their "news" mouthpiece will do anything to remove him from power, including destroy the nation.

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    Back then, I hardly paid shy attention to any news. But, were the hospitals back then overwhelmed like they are now in spots, but the media just didnít cover it? Or are none of the hospitals overwhelmed like the media is making it sound?
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    When itís during a crisis, itís called sacrifice and putting themselves in danger. During normal times, itís called tyranny.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BasinCruiser View Post
    So, whatís really is the difference in the response and reaction to Chinese Wuhan Virus (CWV) compared to H1N1? Why are the hospitals in the hotspots being overwhelmed? Was H1N1 less spreadable, age has more of a gradual climb that was more like a trickle that slowly grew andSight need ventilators, and is CWV more easily spreadable and requires more equipment? Or are they just taking more drastic measures trying to save as many people as possible? Iím not condemning the effort and objective if thatís the case, just trying to understand the difference in responses in the medical field, government, and Msm.


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    until it's over and the data analyzed we likely won't know.

    depend on who does the analyzing we still might never know.

    But it's slowly feeling more and more we've been duped to a certain extent.

    There was no one screaming the sky is falling with H1N1.

    With covid-19 everyone has had a turn screaming the sky is falling.

    If this turns into a mostly media driven event, covid will claim many more lives
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    ^^^The biggest difference is Trump is President. Liberals and their "news" mouthpiece will do anything to remove him from power, including destroy the nation.

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    If this turns out to be the extent, there will be a un civil, civil war and the dnc media will be the eye of America's scorn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BasinCruiser View Post
    @blueeyes- is there any truth or validity in this? Or is this rubbish?

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    https://www.defendingutah.org/post/2...y-for-covid-19
    No this is not true.

    We have a test that has been in use for a couple years now and they do test for 4 human Coronaviruses. It is part of the Biofire respiratory panel. The panel tests for 17 different viral targets and 4 bacterial targets. Not every hospital will have this platform but it is one I am familiar with.

    Here is a link to the CDC that talks about the 4 human Coronaviruses. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/gene...formation.html

    There maybe a nonspecific test out there that tests in general for these 4 human Coronaviruses and maybe that is what this person who doesn't want to be identified is talking about but that is not the same as the Covid-19 testing.

    Current Zoonotic Covid-19 testing is specific for Covid-19. As long as you have the correct RNA target sequence, or "primers" which we do, you can develop a test that is specific for that virus.

    CDC has examples listed here

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...er-probes.html

    They say you can't use these for diagnostic purposes. It is because you can't just willy nilly start testing without proper approval. But these sequences are the same they would use to develop tests.

    When real time PCR testing is preformed correctly the viral RNA is extracted and ONLY the target sequence is amplified not just any viral RNA.

    My only issue with the rapid test Abbott came out with is with Negative results. If your viral load is below detection limits or there is some interfering substance then a negative could be a false negative. I would absolutely trust a positive test but if it came back negative and I WAS exhibiting symptoms I would want a back up test.

    Antibody testing is another type of test. Usually done by ELISA. This is not the only way to test for antibodies but probably the most common in a general lab. What that stands for is Enzyme linked immunoabsorbent assay. It uses antigens specific for the target antibody to determine if you have been exposed to the virus.

    If you want I can see if I can find some good videos on YouTube that explain both types of testing.





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