Coronavirus

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[BasinCruiser]

Copied. But, basically sums up my position:


Do I believe the virus is real? Yes


Do I believe that people are sick? Yes.


Do I believe people are dying? Yes.


Do I believe some hospitals are slammed? Yes.


Do I believe nurses and healthcare workers are terrified? Yes.


Do I believe the media is spinning this?
Yes.


Do I believe this is political?
Yes, very much.


Do I also believe we are being lied to?
Yes.


Do I believe they're lying about the numbers?
Yes. (Especially Italy)


Do I believe this will strip Americans of more rights?
Yes.


Do I believe this will launch us into a full scale American and global depression? Which in turn will cause more death than any virus could?
Yes.


Do I believe most government officials are incompetent and playing the monkey-see-monkey-do game without thinking? Yes. Without a doubt.


Do I believe this is more about money and control than anything else? I do.


Do I believe our government just set the most dangerous precedent for our liberty and freedom ever in the history of the world, by printing that much fake money? Yes.... And I'm 100x more terrified of that than I could be of any virus.


Do I believe it's a huge fake money grab by local, state, and federal officials? Not to mention special interest groups? No question.


Do I believe passing these stimulus packages will one day go down as the greatest heist(s) in world history? Yes. (btw -More stimulus packages already being prepared)


Do I believe it's important to be a voice right now? Even if you will get mocked? 100% Yes.


I won’t discount your fear even if I find your thoughts misguided or irrational....


Please don’t discount mine because of the same reasons.


No.... I’m not going stop talking about it just because you don’t like my opinion.


No....I’ve never been one to keep my mouth shut and I’m certainly not going to start now....


Yes....My children’s (and everyone's) freedom and liberty is too important.

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^^^^^^^Very well stated

[blueeyes]

Here is an interesting video on Singapore and the lengths they have gone to to keep an outbreak of any emerging disease at bay. Again they developed these measures after the last SARS outbreak.



Just to be clear. I am not panicked by this outbreak more people die of diabetes than will from this virus yet Americans me included don't do much about our horrible diets. If we poured the same amount of energy into diets as this virus imagine the lives we could save.

I have had a fascination with all things microscopic since I was in elementary school one of the first big reports I ever researched and wrote was on the Black Death... in fact I am pretty certain in a memory box somewhere I still have that report. I have a healthy respect for viruses and bacteria and diseases they can cause. So tiny, yet so miserably deadly. I guess that is why microbiology has always been my favorite subject and why I am involved in teaching it.

Anyway back to the video. Singapore, South Korea, and China all have apps that alert citizens to infected people and where they have been. That would never fly in America. I think many of us me included would find that too invasive.

I thought you all might enjoy the video. They do more than just track people to help reduce the spread of an outbreak. I think the biggest measure was making sure every hospital had the ability to test for the virus as soon as they knew about it. Giving them the ability to start the contact tracing and help stop the chain of transmission. Three other measures that I think are key are keeping everything in public spaces super clean. Education, education, education. And last temp checks frequently in public places.

Having a solid plan in place that public is aware of would help decrease the panic at least I hope it would. Shutting down an entire society is ludicrous. But overloading the healthcare system with sick people because you are not prepared can't happen.

Here is one more on China. This one I found interesting because of the app they show. You literally can see how far an infected person is from your location.

https://youtu.be/3K3fy5eKeuM

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Copied. But, Russ otter much sums up my position:


Do I believe the virus is real? Yes


Do I believe that people are sick? Yes.


Do I believe people are dying? Yes.


Do I believe some hospitals are slammed? Yes.


Do I believe nurses and healthcare workers are terrified? Yes.


Do I believe the media is spinning this?
Yes.


Do I believe this is political?
Yes, very much.


Do I also believe we are being lied to?
Yes.


Do I believe they're lying about the numbers?
Yes. (Especially Italy)


Do I believe this will strip Americans of more rights?
Yes.


Do I believe this will launch us into a full scale American and global depression? Which in turn will cause more death than any virus could?
Yes.


Do I believe most government officials are incompetent and playing the monkey-see-monkey-do game without thinking? Yes. Without a doubt.


Do I believe this is more about money and control than anything else? I do.


Do I believe our government just set the most dangerous precedent for our liberty and freedom ever in the history of the world, by printing that much fake money? Yes.... And I'm 100x more terrified of that than I could be of any virus.


Do I believe it's a huge fake money grab by local, state, and federal officials? Not to mention special interest groups? No question.


Do I believe passing these stimulus packages will one day go down as the greatest heist(s) in world history? Yes. (btw -More stimulus packages already being prepared)


Do I believe it's important to be a voice right now? Even if you will get mocked? 100% Yes.


I won’t discount your fear even if I find your thoughts misguided or irrational....


Please don’t discount mine because of the same reasons.


No.... I’m not going stop talking about it just because you don’t like my opinion.


No....I’ve never been one to keep my mouth shut and I’m certainly not going to start now....


Yes....My children’s (and everyone's) freedom and liberty is too important.

I agree with all of that...except I do believe Italy's numbers.

And very much agree that the stimulus package scares the shit out of me more than the virus.

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[BasinCruiser]

Are illegal aliens allowed to leave sanctuary cities now or do they have to wait until after they vote in Nov.?

Yes, they are free to move about and do whatever they want, and have free access to everything (medical, education, food, housing, welfare) they want from now until the end of eternity. To suggest that they are ever impeded from any movement, either with a barrier at the border, or detention to verify if they are suspected criminals or trafficers, accuse them of any crime, or limit their movements within or between cities is completely racist and will not be accepted in any way at all.

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[oldno7]

Maybe they should see if Trump can spare any wall funding

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Oh, I can’t wait till we get single payer government ran healthcare. Yeah!!!

The government sucks at pretty much everything they do. When it comes to healthcare and the economy, it really sucks.





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