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  1. #501
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    It's just demographics and continued pumping of brainwashed kids.

    ... and the power of pop culture and media over them, not over us.
    The problem with this reasoning is that pop culture doesn't vote.

    Brainwashed kids can talk and tweet all they want, but in the end that's all it is... just talk. Pop culture and brainwashed kids never back up all that talk at the polls.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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  4. #502
    ^^^This^^^

    Not to mention the black vote is staying home again this year just as they did in 2016.

  5. #503
    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    The problem with this reasoning is that pop culture doesn't vote.

    Brainwashed kids can talk and tweet all they want, but in the end that's all it is... just talk. Pop culture and brainwashed kids never back up all that talk at the polls.
    Yep...Bernie was supposed to take it walking away. It was all bullshit...nobody showed up because "massive support" was a lie.
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    I think what I don't understand in you all is this: we have leftist barbarians smashing down the civilization and they have won. There is no push back, no organized good that is fighting to any degree, no political class standing for our founding principles. And I'm talking about the social and cultural war that has defeated us to this point. These riots are just the next phase on top of the cultural violence that has occured. They own it all: education, legal system, political system, pop culture, media, sport, corporations, all of it. There's nothing left to fight for, other than our own and fam's personal daily safety.

    And your contention is there are enough of us remaining to somehow squeak an election out. You might be right, but at best it would be as razor thin as 2016, where 20k or 30k key votes would have changed the result. Considering if these facts existed in 1980 or earlier, decency would win 80-20, 90-10, or 98-2. When the country once didn't have millions taught to hate it. We need to come to realize the damage the left has caused and the depth of this reality.

    Next phase: overwhelming brainwashing about systemic racism. Every NFL player kneeling, owners kneeling with them, the crowds cheering. Baseballers kneeling. NBAers kneeling. Confrontations with white people demanding they kneel and apologize for their white privilege. I see this in my lost young cousins, who are chanting this stuff. The brainwashing and national purge will only grow in strength, since they are learning violence and threats work. Of course they work, they're getting what they want from it. And based on Rove now advising Trump to go on an outreach tour, Trump will likely add to the lie by giving in to a degree.

    Plan accordingly in our lives. That's all.

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  8. #505
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    If the Democrats have some double super secret plan to run someone other than Biden for President, as some have suggested, they better hurry up and execute it as Biden is only about one week away from securing the DNC nomination.
    I'm still convinced Biden isn't their guy on the ballot. I'll gladly smile and take the criticism if I'm wrong November 3rd though.

    I know the rules of the DNC, but this assumes they'll follow rules. They can think of any excuse to wiggle out of regulations, and their base would blindly (and enthusiastically) agree with them.

    We are in an unprecedented time. They are no longer interested in hiding their hypocrisy.

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  10. #506
    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    I know the rules of the DNC, but this assumes they'll follow rules. They can think of any excuse to wiggle out of regulations, and their base would blindly (and enthusiastically) agree with them.
    2 ways for it to happen. 1, he declines. 2, they change the rules and do some new vote. I had expected option 1.

    But I now think it isn't necessary. He's probably better than a more radical offering now. An old white male who's sold as non-radical would arguably have more power to impose a radical agenda than an AOC-type. Gov. Northam of VA being the perfect example. Before, they needed a more radical type to enthuse their base to vote. Not necessary anymore, and especially not necessary if mail in voting is the standard.

    But we've never seen a year like this. The country is collapsing and anything can happen.

  11. #507
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    But we've never seen a year like this. The country is collapsing and anything can happen.

    Man, ya'll talk as if the Apocalypse is just around the corner. Don't forget that this country has seen much darker days than the present. Back in the early 1970's the civil unrest was so bad that the National Guard was shooting unarmed college students in the streets. The events that led up to the Kent State shootings and the nationwide rioting in days that followed would easily dwarf the nonsense that is transpiring today.

    I guess if you were an avid news-watcher who believed everything you saw reported on CNN then yeah I can see where there might be serious cause to worry. But never forget that the polls and the news that reports on those polls are designed to create an emotional response, and they are rarely accurate. Look at the 2016 election as a prime example.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

  12. #508
    ^^^THIS^^^

    Not to mention the 1860's when we actually had a civil war with actual bullets and cannons and stuff....

    I remember the civil unrest in the late 1960's and it was worse then this.

    Draining the swamp ain't easy... a lot of nasty ol' gator's live their.

    But the liberal's made a huge mistake when they ditched Covid-19 for race riots.... If they had of managed to continue to tank the economy they might have won in November... but race riots have never worked.

    YMMV

    And a picture to keep your attention....


  13. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by dougr View Post
    I think what I don't understand in you all is this: we have leftist barbarians smashing down the civilization and they have won. There is no push back, no organized good that is fighting to any degree, no political class standing for our founding principles.
    Your entire post was excellent and pretty much sums up just how dire things appear to be...but I highlighted this section because I firmly believe that we DO have push back...that pushback was silent and came out in November of '16 when it seemed like all hope was lost. We're not making much noise...just going about our lives, shaking our heads at those that are freaking out waving their hands around.

    In 1968 it seemed like EVERYBODY was pissed off, right? So the President takes so much heat that the simply quits...he was a Democrat. He injected the social welfare state with steroids and they still rejected him. They rioted, looted, killed and started their own homegrown terrorist orgs...Black Panthers, Weather Underground, etc...

    The Conservatives? They were pretty quiet, doing their thing and guess who won the next election? That's right...the VERY LAST person that all those making the noise would have wanted.

    Seems overwhelming, doesn't it? The liberal sissy, hypersensitive, spoiled rotten, miserable nonsense they're spewing from the radio, TV and those nifty little things so many carry around in their pockets...but I've determined that when the rubber hits the road, their behavior is detrimental. Just like it was in 1968.

    I saw a bumper sticker today, it said: "Frodo failed...the Republicans have the ring". IMO, the person who owns that car is a fool that has it completely backwards. We're not making much noise Doug...and it hardly means we're weak or being overpowered.

    Bread and Circuses, my friend. Like toilet paper...disposable until whatever they come up with next week.
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  15. #510
    ^^^THIS^^^

    While liberals are crying loudly the conservatives are busy actually doing something. Conservatives with Trump leading the parade are busy stacking the Federal courts with judges that are Constitutionalists that will change the course of this nation to conservative for the next 40 years.

    More then 1 out of every 4 circuit court judges are a Trump appointee, and that number should be 1 out of every 3 before the end of the year.

    Trump is on a record setting pace....
    https://news.ballotpedia.org/2020/05...ts-fourth-year.


  16. #511
    Biden just signed on to the extreme left's plan to defund the police.

    That should guarentee him middle America and the swing votes needed to secure the presidency.

    /End Sarcasm

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  18. #512
    Ahhhh...the election is a forgone conclusion. All this nonsense is their attempt to win down ballot elections and set up chaos for the next 4 and half years.

    So it looks like our economy is going to ramp right back up just fine. Once this Floyd stuff gets old, I wonder what's next?

    Maybe the Dems will convince the Iranians to send some suicidal maniacs against our Navy. See if they can get a war going.
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  19. #513
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    2 ways for it to happen. 1, he declines. 2, they change the rules and do some new vote. I had expected option 1.
    So exactly how much longer do we have to wait to find out who the DNC candidate will be? Better make it happen soon because Sleepy Joe doesn't appear to be declining the nomination...

    Biden clinches Democratic presidential nomination with latest delegate haul

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bid...tic-nomination

  20. #514
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    So exactly how much longer do we have to wait to find out who the DNC candidate will be? Better make it happen soon because Sleepy Joe doesn't appear to be declining the nomination...
    We don't. I posted above it isn't necessary anymore and won't happen now. It's Biden.

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  22. #515
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    Biden just signed on to the extreme left's plan to defund the police.

    That should guarentee him middle America and the swing votes needed to secure the presidency.

    /End Sarcasm
    I was out in the hinterlands a few days. I'm not seeing any links about this.

  23. #516
    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    but I've determined that when the rubber hits the road, their behavior is detrimental. Just like it was in 1968.
    I think we're all here students of history here and quite knowledgeable. Symptom or cause of our politics, either way.

    68 was different, I'm contending. The show of force was by a radical left street and campus movement. The public and the economic powers to be rejected it. Dems were embarrassed at their convention by the street action.

    Now we see a large segment of society supporting this. This isn't just college radicals and blacks. This is college radicals as the leaders of a much larger movement, that captures a good chunk of middle class whites. But more important, the economic forces arraying are staggering. To see the word "oppression" tied to the USA by basically every major corporation of note in their press releases? Do you all realize the power of denigrating the country to that degree in the minds of its people? From here on, you think the brainwashing and intolerance to any position other than admitting this country is fundamentally racist and oppressive was bad before?

    It cannot be understated the treason we're seeing and the threat to the absolute core of the country. It will cease to exist in 10 years or so. Flag change, anthem change to start, and property redistribution coming soon after.

    Call me nuts, but we all form an opinion based on our reads of the masses. I've lived in l.a., AZ, and CO. I talk to dozens, young and old. Interact with D and Rs, old friends and new. What worries me more than the other side is our side. Though with us, they can't articulate why and put together a forceful counterargument to the provable lie that we're now seeing sweep public discourse.

    I'm hoping the defund police movement catches steam and happens. That's the only path for most to see what the real goal is.

  24. #517
    ^^^I lived through the 60's unrest, it's not just history to me... and I pretty much disagree with everything you wrote.

    It's not middle America marching in the streets today, it's the vocal left. You never hear a peep out of middle America and they only voice their thoughts on election day without ever saying a word.

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  26. #518
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    Now we see a large segment of society supporting this. This isn't just college radicals and blacks. This is college radicals as the leaders of a much larger movement, that captures a good chunk of middle class whites.

    I'm hoping the defund police movement catches steam and happens. That's the only path for most to see what the real goal is.

    1: No we don't. A vast majority of Americans are watching it on TV or going about their business in other ways, not marching in the streets. Neither you nor I have the ability to determine what is swirling around in their heads. Some think what they saw happen to that guy was awful, others think good riddance, one less criminal to contend with.
    2: Yes it is...just like '68. Take a look right now at those marching in Washington...blacks, kids, Bernie Bros and liberals. There are millions of them from coast to coast. They're frustrated. Not only that, they get to hang out with people that are like minded...who doesn't like "favorable" crowds?
    3:No it doesn't...if anything, they're behavior is undermining their "cause"...just like '68. They want "change" but can't define what it is, aside from some harebrained nonsensical ideas and replace the Prez with a mystery God.

    And lastly...if law enforcement is "abolished", society would degrade to the wild west, everyman for himself, large scale theft, looting and killing, vigilante justice and a complete loss of safety. Americans are not going to shitcan everything they've worked so hard for because some low life got jacked. The liberals have been puking all over themselves for four straight years, and lately they're spewing big chunks...this is NOT their moment.

    With all due respect, Dougrz, I think you've got your eyeballs spinning like pinwheels with all this. Hypersensitive people making lots of noise...if it were a black officer with his knee on that guy's neck we would have likely never heard about it.
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  27. #519
    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    And lastly...if law enforcement is "abolished", society would degrade to the wild west, everyman for himself, large scale theft, looting and killing, vigilante justice and a complete loss of safety. Americans are not going to shitcan everything they've worked so hard for because some low life got jacked.
    With this I agree. And why I think it needs to happen. For a clear lesson in the folly of leftist policy.

    Regardless of our differences on this, know that I've grown to really like you guys and the spirited optimism to my pessimism. I would want no one else in my fox hole. Just that I believe we're closer to needing that hole, both metaphorically and physically.

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  29. #520
    In 2016, it was manufactured race riots, “pussy hat” marches, celebrity virtue-signaling, ANTIFA clashes — and the Democrats still lost. Why are they executing the exact same playbook, 4 years later? Do they really think American voters are too stupid to see through this chaos?

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