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    Fornication will no longer be illegal in Utah

    SALT LAKE CITY — The Utah State Legislature is making sex outside of marriage legal.

    In a bill cleaning up Utah’s criminal code, lawmakers repealed the misdemeanor crime of fornication. The House passed Senate Bill 43 on a 41-32 vote. It previously passed the Utah State Senate and now goes to Governor Gary Herbert for his signature or veto.

    The legislature previously passed a bill removing adultery and sodomy among consenting adults as crimes in Utah. Rep. Paul Ray, R-Clearfield, said court rulings have found the laws are unenforceable and it was time to remove them from the books.

    The bill wasn’t popular with some of the more conservative members of the Utah House of Representatives. Rep. Merrill Nelson, R-Grantsville, said he objected. So did Rep. Keven Stratton, R-Orem.

    “What is legally is often far below what is morally right,” Rep. Stratton said. “And I recognize our laws are not strong enough to rule a immoral people.”

    https://fox13now.com/2019/03/06/forn...legal-in-utah/


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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkHammergate View Post
    Totally embarrassing
    Dang I would think you would applaud the progress.

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    That kind of takes all the fun out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    That kind of takes all the fun out of it.
    Lol


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    But 4%+ beer at Maverick is still the Unpardonable Sin.


    Amirite......?!!
    Last edited by rockgremlin; 03-07-2019 at 07:48 AM.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    But 4%+ beer at Maverick is still the Unpardonable Sin.


    Amirite......?!!
    Let me cover this for you cause you get cussed when you do it,,

    The "church" came out against it!
    I'm not Spartacus


    It'll come back.


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    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints came out against Stevenson's original bill but supports the substitute measure to create a task force, said Marty Stephens, the church's director of government and community relations.

    create a task force of who? The quorum of the 12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    Let me cover this for you cause you get cussed when you do it,,

    The "church" came out against it!

    LOL I will reiterate -- I said nothing in regards to the prominent religion.


    But you had better find a bomb shelter ASAP cuz I can guarantee there's an impending LDS backlash tsunami headed your way.

    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    I say if it was ok for Porter, it's ok for everyone

    Hot Springs Hotel and Brewery

    Look it up...

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    I'll bet it was 3.2% whiskey

    Rockwell sent for a bottle of Valley Tan Whiskey and he and Burton drank shot for shot into the night with Rockwell outlining steps that Burton should take for safety during his passage to Sacramento.
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    In 1830, at 16 years old,
    [3]
    Rockwell was
    baptized
    into the
    Church of Christ
    (original name of the church founded by Smith) in Fayette, western New York.
    [4]
    Historically, the date of Porter's baptism has been associated with April 6, the day the church was organized, but more recent access to original documents suggests a probable date of June 9.
    [5]
    Rockwell has been named as the youngest member of the first group to be baptized into the church.



    So porter owned a bar, drank whiskey and killed folks, personally all ok but this was said at his funeral




    At Rockwell's funeral, apostle Joseph F. Smith, nephew of Joseph Smith and future church president, spoke the following about Porter:
    "They say he was a murderer; if he was he was the friend of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, and he was faithful to them, and to his covenants, and he has gone to Heaven and apostates can go to Hell ... Porter Rockwell was yesterday afternoon ushered into Heaven clothed with immortality and eternal life, and crowned with all glory which belongs to a departed saint. He has his little faults but Porter's life on earth, taken altogether, was one worthy of example, and reflected honor upon the church. Through all his trials he had never once forgotten his obligations to his brethren and his God"




    So I don't think it would be good for the church to speak out in favor of murder but surely Porter enjoyed tipping a few back and was revered by the church, can drinking alcoholic beverages be called bad by the church

    I'm so confused..

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints came out against Stevenson's original bill but supports the substitute measure to create a task force, said Marty Stephens, the church's director of government and community relations.

    create a task force of who? The quorum of the 12.

    Create a task force is political speak for bury this idea so it will never see the light of day again. And for the record the task force is supposed to be comprised of those on the health committee in this particular case.

    It appears 6% beer is heading for a citizens initiative on the 2020 ballot, which when passed will immediately get watered down (Haha, see what I did there) by a new law just passed by the legislature. See the medical marijuana vote if you want to see how this will eventually play out.

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    Yea, Utah will be stuck with sex in a canoe beer.
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    Just for the record. Joseph Smith's home in Nauvoo was a two story. Joseph and his wife lived on the second floor. The first floor was a saloon, which they owned and operated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    Yea, Utah will be stuck with sex in a canoe beer.

    F***ing close to water...
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    All of the "Love is Love" crowd have gone mysteriously quiet on this one.

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    The fact that this was law in the first place is unsurprising. Lots of dumb old laws on the books throughout the country from a different time. What is sad though is that 32 reps voted against it. 32 dipshits who no doubt love to yammer on about limited government and individual responsibility while thinking the gov should decide who I get to bone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    The fact that this was law in the first place is unsurprising. Lots of dumb old laws on the books throughout the country from a different time. What is sad though is that 32 reps voted against it. 32 dipshits who no doubt love to yammer on about limited government and individual responsibility while thinking the gov should decide who I get to bone.
    What I find really funny is this rant is coming from a guy who's political affiliations believes the answer to our problem is more government.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    What I find really funny is this rant is coming from a guy who's political affiliations believes the answer to our problem is more government.

    I'm not so sure about that...it seems like he's kinda morphing a bit lately.
    Suddenly my feet are feet of mud
    It all goes slo-mo
    I don't know why I am crying
    Am I suspended in Gaffa?

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