2020

[oldno7]

[Iceaxe]

[rockgremlin]

Here's a Q for you all. We have a culture where the wheels have fallen off. Men proclaim they're women and the Supreme Court agrees. One party openly pushes socialist policy and is leading in every poll. That ideology dominates every single facet of society, with our side's evidence of strength being a silent majority. Parents no longer control their kids' education and values imbuing, but instead are helpless in watching their kids become lost to the left.

And I'm the one silly in thinking a leftist tsunami is coming? You might be right this one last time, but at some point CA-level results become the norm on a national level. If we win, we'll have been saved by the -strength- of the left scaring off just enough indep voters.

All the while still swimming against the tide of leftist control of every institution of people production the country has. Show me a dismantling of public education and then I'll say we have a chance to save the country.

1984-type result? 525 to 13? 60-40 R? Trump lost the pop vote by 3 mil in 2016, that has to widen on just demographics. Look to the CA Repub party of the 90s, as the Dems there got more insane it didn't matter, the die was cast, the public ed system set the course. I see no evidence we (normal Americans) have any power to manufacture more like us.

Our side is whistling past the graveyard now.

You're assuming the Democrat party is healthy and viable. It's not. The Democrat party is a shell of its former self, and it's only being held together by their hatred for Trump.

Here's what's coming: Trump will win this November and the Democrats will be shell-shocked once again that their beloved party got dismantled by Trump. The fact that their party is capable of being defeated twice in a row by an orange haired political novice game show host will send them reeling, and will cause them to either move back to center or reinvent themselves. Since moving back to center is not an option, I believe we will see a different party -- what that looks like I have no idea.

Something has got to give -- when outright lies broadcast over the open airwaves (Russia-Gate, Ukraine-Gate, etc) is ineffective it's time to try something new.

[Sombeech]

lolol

This is truly a beautiful age we are living in

[Sombeech]

The Democrats are all in on Mail in Voting. That's where their efforts are. This is the last chance for them to win, through cheating in mail in voting.

They all ranted and raved about the 2016 election being meddled in, but this year there's no concern about the failures of millions of ballots flowing through mailboxes.

This is because they are counting on it, they need it.

And it's not only about cheating on millions of ballots, and shredding the Republican marked ones so they never make it.... after all, the Postal workers UNION supports Biden...

No, it's about delaying the results of the election, so by Jan 20th if there's still no clear winner, Pelosi becomes President.

The answer to this is, go and vote at the polls in person. They'll count those votes first. Remember it's a race to 270. All 350 million votes do not need to be counted.

Confusion and Delay is their only tactic, and it's right in line of their pandemic and their BLM riots.

[rockgremlin]

This video is another example of why the Democrats will get stomped this November. There is a change happening in the Democrat party. Legacy Democrats may not vote for Trump, but they're not going to stand behind a demented, racist pedophile who can't string a sentence together without having a mini-stroke.

[dougr]

You're assuming the Democrat party is healthy and viable. It's not. The Democrat party is a shell of its former self, and it's only being held together by their hatred for Trump.

Granted we disagree on what's to come, but consider the Dems received 58% of the vote in the 2018 House races. Consider they're odds on favorites to take the Senate given the lay of the map. And you think they're on the ropes? Regardless of what motivates them, in numbers there lies power.

Here's what's coming: Trump will win this November and the Democrats will be shell-shocked once again that their beloved party got dismantled by Trump. The fact that their party is capable of being defeated twice in a row by an orange haired political novice

Both sides will be shell shocked by a loss, but ours more so. Our side will have to come to grips that it's over forever. There are not enough of us left. And since they manufacture more through the ed system and immigration than we do with the fumes of passed on Americanism through family, the finality of the loss will be total. A loss for them is simply a delay in the inevitable. We all know, even I'm sure you and @Iceaxe, the youth indoctrination is so total that there's zero long term chance for the country's survival. They know it as well and will recoup.

reinvent themselves. Since moving back to center is not an option, I believe we will see a different party -- what that looks like I have no idea.

The reinventing seems clear to me. An AOC future. It'll be easy to argue Biden wasn't openly progressive enough. They'll move full-on that direction, and they'll do well with it. It's a winning message for the new electorate. Had this been Sanders losing 60/40 like McGovern did in '72, then you'd see a Jimmy Carter -type movement emerge. But look what happened after Gore lost '00 and Kerry '04. Did Dems move more center? No, they went more left with Obama and won. Then Clinton was less left in '16 than Sanders and lost. The argument that left wins and "center" loses will carry the day in that party.

AOC pushing Markey across the line in MA over a Kennedy has cemented her power. It's her party now.

[rockgremlin]

^^^When the Left once again regains control - whether that's in 2 months or beyond, a very pressing question still needs to be addressed: what are they going to do with that power once they have it? As we have seen before, the Democrats talk tough, but in the end they're bought and paid for by corporate America. A prime example of this is Obama. We had 8 long years of an African American Democrat in office and they didn't do anything. Obama had the chance to make huge, sweeping changes but in the end he did nothing. And many black Americans claim that their lives were worse under Obama.

And now they want to put up Obama's befuddled, washed up sidekick for president? Pshhh... Yeah right.

[dougr]

^^^When the Left once again regains control - whether that's in 2 months or beyond, a very pressing question still needs to be addressed: what are they going to do with that power

Permanent mail-in voting and amnesty. Top 2 things they'll do. Consolidate power. Everything else flows from perm Dem control in time.

[Byron]

Trump came down that escalator and everyone laughed. He stood on stage with 17 other contenders and they all laughed at him. He bragged about being so famous he could grab all the pussy he wanted. He called all his opponents names. The progressive media ridiculed him as a complete joke and the conservative media didn't get on board until he won the primary. His chances of winning the election were widely broadcast as zero.

He mopped the floor with all of them. The Democrats have been trying for 4 years to unseat him...even going so far to drum up impeachment. The progressive media has twisted virtually every word he's said and they've been eating shit sandwiches every...single...time. One right after another.

Trump doesn't lose and to think that a demented old fool like Biden is going to bring him down is ridiculous. You wanna know what else isn't going to happen? Trump isn't going to let a Democrat succeed him. He's not going to leave a pile of crap in his wake like Obama did.

That's the thing about Trump...he'll lay waste to everything his opponents do and then plate all his stuff in gold. That's what the guy does.

[dougrz]

Trump doesn't lose and to think that a demented old fool like Biden is going to bring him down is ridiculous.

I think it boils down to this: I believe the media and culture are too far gone, too massive, and too powerful to defeat anymore. It isn't Trump's choice or personal determination which'll decide this. It's how powerful Google's search algo suppression is, how all reaching TV bias is, how throughly mail-in vote cheating is done. Half the country will lie, cheat, and steal to beat him and are doing it.

[oldno7]

United for the People @people4kam
Local residents of Kenosha have gathered outside a church and are waiting for Biden's arrival.





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The primary OVERFLOW crowd at the @RealDonaldTrump Peaceful Protest in Latrobe, Pennsylvania!

[oldno7]

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[Byron]

I think it boils down to this: I believe the media and culture are too far gone, too massive, and too powerful to defeat anymore. It isn't Trump's choice or personal determination which'll decide this. It's how powerful Google's search algo suppression is, how all reaching TV bias is, how throughly mail-in vote cheating is done. Half the country will lie, cheat, and steal to beat him and are doing it.

Not all these kids are brainwashed and the influence of social media works against them just as well. Nobody watches TV anymore but old people and most of them watch Fox News.

The Dems can't "steal" this election because they can't do anything right...like they'd be able to pull that off? Tell me how the average Dem voter is going to cheat the system? I also think you're assuming everybody's going to vote the same way they did in '16? They're not. The Dems have lost MILLIONS.

I'm tellin' ya...all my liberal friends and clients have clammed up and when you look them in the face the corners of their mouths are pointed down. Hate to say it Doug...but you're the only conservative I know that isn't optimistic. Look at the liberal pundits...they're miserable. They know what what's going to happen.

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