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  1. #2701
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    From the trail today.
    I am also starting to see Trump signage spring up all over my neck of the woods. I've only seen one Biden sign. And I'm paying attention.

    The ratio is close to 15:1, maybe higher.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    Stripper poles are more reliable then the Presidential polls we see everyday! Don’t believe them. The silent majority will speak only when it counts this November 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    Oh, this is just delicious. Check out the video of Biden giving his speech to nobody and the Trump supporters across the street blaring their horns and yelling at him...just scroll down a bit on this Twitter feed and you'll see it.

    This election is going to be over before 10pm.
    Note: rock, don't read this.

    I wish it was an enthusiasm election. Bongino, God love him, continues to think it's a base election. I just disagree. It's a middle electorate election that wants the Trump chaos to end.

    Biden is so desperately bland and uninteresting, and is exactly the correct antidote. These posted memes ironically confirm that. There couldn't have been a better choice. Literally not one Dem pol better. It was brilliant. Unable to say anything, total stealth. Boring rallies speak, "this is not a dangerous guy, he's just dull." The complete anti-Trump in style and emotional response. Like closing the drapes and laying in bed for a few hours after an extremely hectic day. While Bernie's firebrand style would have represented a deeply unappealing and scary alternative. And Bernie rallies would have laid bare their rabidness.

    The first debate confirmed the chaos narrative and sealed the result. Highly unlikely the last debate will see Trump control himself. He'll almost certainly compound the hole.

    I continue to pray I'm wrong and seek out counter argument articles to keep my spirits up. But all my political experience screams Dem landslide in a Watergate-level backlash. This is 1976 squared, while 2018 was 1974. 74 foretold 76, listen to history. The 76 presidential vote was close, but the underlying Congressional vote wasn't.

    2018 made this result obvious to me, even minus the virus and Floyd. Does no one remember 2018 was a crushing D win? Obliterated us everywhere on every level. With a hugely advantageous Senate map we did nothing.

    In 76, Carter was bland, Biden is bland. In 76 Ford was bumbling, but specifically his Nixon pardon created a palpable divide. Likewise Trump has created a divide, but at a level we've never seen. The country in 1972 told of its dislike of McGovern and socialism like with Bernie, and yet handed that party the keys just 2 and 4 years later when McG was sidelined like Bernie was here. The parallels are striking. Then add on top the media and tech info control of today.

    Showing the lack of enthusiasm for Biden as proof this won't be 2008 is correct. 2008 was an affirmative vote. 74 and 76 were negative votes. But with the same net result.

    Give me a counter argument from history.

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    ^ In total opposition to what I posted above, https://www.thetrafalgargroup.org/


    Newt specifically cited Trafalgar polls to counter all the others, given their 2016 accuracy and ability to pull out the shy Trump voter.

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    trump-campaign-asymmetrical-covid-lockdowns

    Biden and Harris are threatening a national lockdown. One of the comments in this article..."The Democrats attitude is shut up and do what you're told".

    All it takes is one punk kid with a slingshot to ruin the vibe of a whole neighborhood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    Note: rock, don't read this.

    I wish it was an enthusiasm election. Bongino, God love him, continues to think it's a base election. I just disagree. It's a middle electorate election that wants the Trump chaos to end.

    Biden is so desperately bland and uninteresting, and is exactly the correct antidote. These posted memes ironically confirm that. There couldn't have been a better choice. Literally not one Dem pol better. It was brilliant. Unable to say anything, total stealth. Boring rallies speak, "this is not a dangerous guy, he's just dull." The complete anti-Trump in style and emotional response. Like closing the drapes and laying in bed for a few hours after an extremely hectic day. While Bernie's firebrand style would have represented a deeply unappealing and scary alternative. And Bernie rallies would have laid bare their rabidness.

    The first debate confirmed the chaos narrative and sealed the result. Highly unlikely the last debate will see Trump control himself. He'll almost certainly compound the hole.

    I continue to pray I'm wrong and seek out counter argument articles to keep my spirits up. But all my political experience screams Dem landslide in a Watergate-level backlash. This is 1976 squared, while 2018 was 1974. 74 foretold 76, listen to history. The 76 presidential vote was close, but the underlying Congressional vote wasn't.

    2018 made this result obvious to me, even minus the virus and Floyd. Does no one remember 2018 was a crushing D win? Obliterated us everywhere on every level. With a hugely advantageous Senate map we did nothing.

    In 76, Carter was bland, Biden is bland. In 76 Ford was bumbling, but specifically his Nixon pardon created a palpable divide. Likewise Trump has created a divide, but at a level we've never seen. The country in 1972 told of its dislike of McGovern and socialism like with Bernie, and yet handed that party the keys just 2 and 4 years later when McG was sidelined like Bernie was here. The parallels are striking. Then add on top the media and tech info control of today.

    Showing the lack of enthusiasm for Biden as proof this won't be 2008 is correct. 2008 was an affirmative vote. 74 and 76 were negative votes. But with the same net result.

    Give me a counter argument from history.
    This is flawed analysis--Trump did not create the divide.

    He has participated in a defense of himself, no other President has experienced.

    The attacks were NOT initially Trump's, they grew out of the obama administration.

    Trump has been mostly on defense his entire term, while still accomplishing more than any other President--(thats good "D")

    Trump has indeed fought back, an image no other Republican has dared paint.

    Fighting back is something no other Republican has done and it has set the demicraps on their heels, thus they've dug in and gone nuclear in their attacks.

    Defending oneself and the Country from these attacks--HAS caused a divide never witnessed before.

    If the dims had of worked with this guy he likely would have leaned left too accommodate them, instead, both sides feel there is no recourse but to dig in and fight for what matters to each.

    Trump did not create this divide--he reacted to it, in self defense.
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    Could the "DIVIDE", have started here?



    Exclusive: Coup Plotters Considered Never Allowing Trump To Be Inaugurated

    According to a former senior Department of Defense official interviewed by AND Magazine, in the wake of Donald Trump’s “surprise” victory in November 2016, a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) was rushed through pushing the false Russian collusion narrative and asserting as the judgment of the Intelligence Community as a whole that the Russians had not only interfered in the election but had done so in order to assist Donald Trump and help him become President. We have known for some time that this NIE was drafted, what we now know is considerably more about the highly unusual way in which it was drafted.
    An NIE is supposed to represent the consensus of the Intelligence Community (IC). It is created in a lengthy collaborative process involving working-level analysts and experts. Only when the final version is effectively agreed upon and hammered out, does the document make is way to agency heads for final approval.
    Such was not the case with this NIE. According to the senior official interviewed, this NIE was written by CIA Director Brennan, FBI Director Comey, and DNI Clapper. All work on the NIE was done at the Top Secret level with only a handful of individuals having access to what was written. Objections to the conclusions reached were dismissed summarily on the basis that Mr. Brennan, Mr. Comey, and Mr. Clapper had personally written the NIE findings and recommendations and would handle all inter-agency input themselves.




    In short, the conclusions had been preordained. There was no room for discussion.

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    electing biden--is the completion of the coup.

    Everyone on earth can see he's incompetent as an individual BUT this election has nothing to do with biden.

    It's roots are much deeper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post

    This election is going to be over before 10pm.
    I hope that is the case, but the media will do their best to delay the announcement. Even social media has come out saying those that announce the election results will be censored. Part of the goal for mail in ballots was to delay the decision, with states passing bills saying mail in ballots could be counted up to a WEEK after election day. Imagine, losing the election on Nov 3rd, so you send in millions more ballots for your candidate and they can still be counted a week later. Fortunately these states have been sued and this was reversed.

    Just know this, when the riots start, and they haven't announced the winner, take comfort it could only mean Trump won. Those bitches don't riot when they get their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    Just know this, when the riots start, and they haven't announced the winner, take comfort it could only mean Trump won. Those bitches don't riot when they get their way.
    This is exactly correct. Historic level insurrection if Trump wins. Nothing if he loses. Especially if he loses big. The retribution will come next year in the laws.

    Prediction: Trump will serve jail time. Their retribution will be deep.

  17. #2712
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    Prediction: Trump will serve jail time. Their retribution will be deep.
    No. Not at all.

    They are losing their power each day. If he would serve jail time, they wouldn't be selling their souls to the devil, doing anything to try and get him out of office. They are desperate.

    You'd be surprised, shocked at what they have. It just takes time to dismantle the deep state. Rest assured, nothing the Dems have ever tried against Trump has succeeded.

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    And by the way, I think it's more likely Trump would be assassinated before jail time. If he goes to jail, he can talk, make deals. He has seen it all. He knows the blackmail secrets about these people that we will NEVER know. They've tried to assassinate him already, many times, and failed. I hope they keep failing. Some of us have heard about certain events that were in fact attempts to take him out, but were explained away as some other thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    This is exactly correct. Historic level insurrection if Trump wins. Nothing if he loses. Especially if he loses big. The retribution will come next year in the laws.

    Prediction: Trump will serve jail time. Their retribution will be deep.
    LMAO... dude... the ruling elite NEVER serve jail time. At least get a grasp on reality.

    Your rhetoric sounds exactly like my bat shirt crazy far left liberal sister in law... except for the fact you're shouting from the right I see no difference.

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    ^ The brewing NY tax case. This isn't about presidential actions. It'll be driven by a personal vendetta against him, obviously. But also a warning to anyone who'd mess with the ruling elite.

    Prediction: the 2A falls if the Dems pack the court. Bat s...?

  22. #2716
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    ^ The brewing NY tax case.

    Is this about Trump's allegedly "only paying $750" in federal income tax?

    Rookie move -- anybody trying to run with that argument clearly doesn't understand tax code and the arguments will easily fall apart in court.
    Last edited by rockgremlin; 10-13-2020 at 11:51 AM.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    Is this about Trump's allegedly "only paying $750" in federal income tax?
    No, that stuff is meaningless. I mean the Trump foundation case which led to the subpoenas of his taxes.

    Remember, this is the same NY that has a lawsuit to dissolve the NRA as a criminal enterprise. Bat s... is their operating principle, and pointing that fact out isn't bat s...

    They will get his returns and records from the foundation. Guaranteed something will be amiss. With a sprawling organization with thousands of employees and books of laws governing things, it's not possible to not violate the law somehow. They'll paint it as criminal, fraudulent intent. Do you have any doubt about that?

    Which then makes the case political. Will he have enough connections to avoid jail? @Iceaxe says the elite never go to jail. I counter he's reviled in elite circles and Repubs have less elite status anyway.

    Weinstein and Cosby are actually in jail. Martha Stewart served. Elites can be dumped at times.

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    ^^^I said 'ruling elites'... that doesn't include celebrities... big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    Trump did not create this divide--he reacted to it, in self defense.
    I don't disagree with anything you said. Since we agree the divide is larger than ever, and Trump is the "reason" since he's the first Repub to ever fight back, it becomes a Q of where the blame gets pinned.

    Either the media or him. And we all (or, everyone else and me) differ on where it has gotten pinned.

    Dems coined the term "low information voter" years ago. They are masters, with the media, of controlling them. I have near zero faith those LIVs can see truth beyond the MSM's bombardment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    I don't disagree with anything you said. Since we agree the divide is larger than ever, and Trump is the "reason" since he's the first Repub to ever fight back, it becomes a Q of where the blame gets pinned.

    Either the media or him. And we all (or, everyone else and me) differ on where it has gotten pinned.

    Dems coined the term "low information voter" years ago. They are masters, with the media, of controlling them. I have near zero faith those LIVs can see truth beyond the MSM's bombardment.
    Rush Limbaugh coined the phrase--"low information voter" as far as I recollect.

    We still disagree on the reason.

    So your interpretation is Trumps guilty until proven innocent on anything that the dems have deployed.

    I reason that the man has been under the worst coup attack in US history and his fighting method is non-traditional in a political setting.

    His fighting back, which may or may not be a cause of the divide, is rooted in the obama administrations attempt to overthrow a duly elected President.

    So in a nutshell, this whole divide, mostly the racial one--was brought on by obama himself.

    His domestic policies created and strengthened the income/wealth divide, as intended.(sow discourse) and it's growing.
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