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    Been thinking about your contentions. What strikes me is this: yes, there has been a sizable move to Trump in the wake of the riots. Hence why the media won't cover them anymore, or the wildfire arsons, or discuss the police ambush in L.A.

    But it's like saying some % in CA has moved. It likely doesn't change the outcome given the base electorate. This isn't 1980 America anymore. It's Mexico-level corruption, incompetence, and voter apathy about real issues. Guided by a very intelligent, determined, powerful, entrenched leftist head. This isn't Venezualan street thug leftism. It's Chinese level sophisticated leftism that, in a "free" society, has seized control of basically all state and corporate organs.

    A good example of this dynamic is the recent discussion of inroads Trump has made with Latinos. I don't doubt it. He may very well increase his support by 10% or even a third. From 25 to 35. Or 30 to 40, whatever. But when the fastest growing demo in the country, literally the replacement for a dying demo that is 2/3 in his favor, is somewhere around 60% to 2/3 against him, the movement in context doesn't matter. And given the razor margins in 2016, how do these net numbers lead to a win now?

    If my read of the pulse is right, the greatest existential problem we'll face post election is where to go. The post election despondency will be deep, after the understanding this was 55 years in the making fully settles in. It isn't correctable. These are massive forces of history. Kennedy's 1960s immigration opening set the stage. Ironic that a Kennedy finally lost in MA this last week, devoured by the force he set in motion.

    For me this is no different than seeing the fall of CA. I grew up there, under 16 consecutive R governor years. In a few short years, the left steam rolled a mildly R state into D supermajorities in both chambers and 2/3 D votes for state offices. Permanently. It's playing out nationally now. There is no "people will see through it" salvation when a fundamentally bad electorate incapable of navigating beyond the information control tips over the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    Guided by a very intelligent, skilled, determined, powerful, entrenched leftist head. This isn't Venezualan street thug leftism. It's Chinese level sophisticated leftism that, in a "free" society, has seized control of all state and corporate organs.
    This is where we differ...I think they're flying by the seat of their pants. For example...how do you explain Biden? If they wanted to seize power, all they had to do was get someone competent to take the job. I don't think it would be too hard to put someone up that would peel off Trump voters...they could have done it with someone a lot more moderate. Hillary damn near won by standing in the middle of the seesaw.

    I really don't think they're that organized. They're too busy fighting or buying each other off. The liberal illuminati as it is is a loose confederation of media and marketing moguls trying to hold together a coalition of voters by offering...what? I think their power and influence is actually waning...they're desperate.

    Take Facebook, for example. Ten years ago EVERYBODY on both sides of my family were on it...the uncles, aunts, cousins, their kids. Constantly posting...many times a week, sometimes daily. Nowadays? Damn near everyone is gone...the only ones posting are a few kids of my cousins who have toddlers with their oh so cute little videos. Most of them haven't posted in years...anything more than "Happy Birthday". I think more and more people are waking up to the manipulation and opting out.

    I agree that apathy has allowed some of the freaks to assume power in state and local politics in particular...like a Trojan horse that worked it's way in there while no one was looking...but now we've had a good, close look at what they're all about and it's ugly as hell. The camouflage has been removed.

    The silent majority? Oh yeah...we're all back of the bus like. Payback is a bitch.
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    If the Democrats were organized and knew what they were doing they would have ran Tulsi Gabbard against Trump and would have probably won. But the Democrats are really nothing but a raging dumpster fire at this point in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    For example...how do you explain Biden? If they wanted to seize power, all they had to do was get someone competent to take the job. I don't think it would be too hard to put someone up that would peel off Trump voters...they could have done it with someone a lot more moderate. Hillary damn near won by standing in the middle of the seesaw.

    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    Think about it: how much money is tied up in companies like Apple, Walmart, Pfizer, Amazon, Tesla, Bank of America, Exxon, etc, etc? It's trillions of dollars at stake here. All that isn't going to get sold out to the hyper liberal agenda. Quit yer snivelling, it's gonna be ok.
    I think rock's comment explains why Biden. He's the perfect trojan candidate. The others, especially Bernie and Warren, would have been doing huge proclamations about govt takeovers and redistribution. Instead we have a slow, dumb, but harmless old man, and rock's reaction is what a lot of people think: nothing really bad will happen if he wins.

    The media has cultivated that image and it's the dominant belief in the campaign. It makes the down vote in a Trump up/down election risk free. They've succeeded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    I think rock's comment explains why Biden. He's the perfect trojan candidate. The others, especially Bernie and Warren, would have been doing huge proclamations about govt takeovers and redistribution. Instead we have a slow, dumb, but harmless old man, and rock's reaction is what a lot of people think: nothing really bad will happen if he wins.

    The media has cultivated that image and it's the dominant belief in the campaign. It makes the down vote in a Trump up/down election risk free. They've succeeded.
    I understand what Rock is saying...and the fact that Bernie has bit the dust just means that the money they invested paid off. We're not talking about Bernie or Warren...they're gone.

    Remember South Carolina? It appeared that Bernie was going to get the nod with tepid support and even before that primary came along the progressive media was sounding the alarm that Biden needed to get the "black vote" or it was all over. You know what all that big corporate money bought? Votes.

    I guarantee you that briefcases full of cash were passed out to every black preacher in that state to stump for Biden. Every other candidate had been rejected...not so much because of their "stance on the issues" but by pure apathy. Biden was the last man standing against the Socialist and the DNC had no choice but to hook their wagon to him. He's there because no one else wanted the job or they weren't sucking enough DNC dick (Gabbard).

    They even brought in a card carrying member of the Illuminati to save the day and he was laughed out of the room...and who did the laughing? The progressives themselves. Bloomberg probably could have won...but like I said, they're too busy fighting with each other as well as being so ideologically screwed up they don't know if they're coming or going. A dumpster fire, indeed.

    Trojan horse? They don't need a dumbshit like Biden to get their way. That Starbucks guy would have gone along with the program, so would Klobuchar or Pete for that matter. They needed an anti-Trump Trump and they failed.
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    Just remember: The winner of this election will be the guy who promises to prop up the big corporations the most. Right now that guy is Trump.

    Mark my words...
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    EMBARRASSING! Democrats Hold Car Parade for Jill Biden (Joe’s at home) — Only Handful of Cars Show Up — VIDEO

    Democrats held a car parade on Wednesday for Jill Biden.
    It was embarrassing!
    While Joe Biden stayed home his wife traveled to New Hampshire to campaign.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/embarrassing-democrats-hold-car-parade-jill-biden-joes-home-handful-cars-show-video/
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    EMBARRASSING! Democrats Hold Car Parade for Jill Biden (Joe’s at home) — Only Handful of Cars Show Up — VIDEO


    Democrats held a car parade on Wednesday for Jill Biden.
    It was embarrassing!
    While Joe Biden stayed home his wife traveled to New Hampshire to campaign.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/embarrassing-democrats-hold-car-parade-jill-biden-joes-home-handful-cars-show-video/
    Yeah...the flag waving, gun toting, all American don't tread on me types are no match for this gang of marauders.

    The comments section is off the hook. Conservative types can be so diabolically clever...the liberals? Not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    EMBARRASSING! Democrats Hold Car Parade for Jill Biden (Joe’s at home) — Only Handful of Cars Show Up — VIDEO

    Democrats held a car parade on Wednesday for Jill Biden.
    It was embarrassing!
    While Joe Biden stayed home his wife traveled to New Hampshire to campaign.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/09/embarrassing-democrats-hold-car-parade-jill-biden-joes-home-handful-cars-show-video/
    On a positive note I always wondered how many was in "a handful"...

    ....and now I know it's four.

    LMAO

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    I haven't visited RCP since the D primaries and specifically don't read polls. But this headline on the DC couldn't be missed.

    If accurate, Trump would cakewalk. D needs to win nationally by 3 or 4 to win on EVs.

    Would be interesting for someone to see how accurate Rasmussen was in 2016.

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/9/16/do...asmussen-poll/


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    Biden will NOT concede this election.

    Disinformation will run rampant, the media wants to confuse everybody on the election results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    Biden will NOT concede this election.

    Disinformation will run rampant, the media wants to confuse everybody on the election results.
    For the left, either result is a win. Obviously if Biden wins they achieve their final defeat of the country. If lose, the narrative of a racist and immoral Constitutional election process gains steam. Going to be a very ugly Nov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    If lose, the narrative of a racist and immoral Constitutional election process gains steam. Going to be a very ugly Nov.
    And then what are they gonna do?...beat us over the head with that for another two years? Like that will help them in the next midterms?

    They've got narrative this and narrative that and everything else. I think the defeat is going to show them quite clearly that their tactics are flawed and they need to shift gears. I think they've gone way too far to the left to gain votes and they'll realize that they need to get back to the middle...besides, they're going to be too busy fighting off the socialists in their own party. The party will be fighting a war while their media partners do everything they can to reduce the number of people fleeing the venue.

    I'd say they know it's coming and rather than shock and awe, the reaction will be more of disgust. Like hermit crabs, the progressive media will crawl back a bit more into their shells and the only thing they'll have to offer is bloody red meat for those that watch them 24 hrs a day with TDS eyeballs.

    Yesterday I did a small job and when I was done I came inside to get paid. The homeowner and I were talking about politics and it was 3 o'clock. He had Fox on and I told him to turn it over to CNN and check out the frownie faces...sure enough, Mr. Blitzer had his miserable crew of pundits, one after another, looking like they just watched a puppy get hit by a car. Check it out for yourself....all frowns, no smiles. America is going to ditch that crap like a psycho spouse that's throwing dishes against the wall.

    Last time it was over by what...11pm? Hillary made the phone call, shit her pants and probably downed a whole bottle of vodka. This time I think it'll happen even sooner than that.
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