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  1. #2541
    The Democrats are spending a fortune in Utah trying to defend Ben McAdams seat in the house.

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  3. #2542
    Here's the debate schedule:

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    How did you like when Wallace out of the clear blue sky went off topic and pinged Trump with questions about his controversial tax returns? That was a gotcha tactic specifically designed to smear Trump. Why didn't he ask Biden about his dementia or his sexual assault allegations?
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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  5. #2543
    Liberal comedian says Joe Biden lost the debate.

    This is another reason why I believe the party is turning away from Biden - because he's a walking death rattle who has already committed to further fund law enforcement and the military. Here he is in the debate openly shunning progressive policies of universal health care and the Green New Deal.

    Marxist at the gate? I think not.


    Last edited by rockgremlin; 10-01-2020 at 08:51 AM.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

  6. #2544
    Since you all were wondering what a small campaign office looks like. I'll split time this year between a Repub office and a specific Trump one. Or maybe not much of the Trump one. This state I seriously doubt can be flipped, so working out of the Trump office would consist of phone banking to other states and not much else of actual end value, imo.

    Daily routine consists of whatever is needed. From paper stuffing to walking to escorting candidates on their walks to answering phones to database work to calling to poll watching to election judging. This is the nuts and bolts of campaigns.

    I started in 2008, seeing the threat Obama posed. The infrastructure that year was decent. In terms of resources to the offices and coordination. 2012 was incredible, with a lot of money into field offices, slick media, with tons of phones, computers, people, etc. 2016 was absolute bare bones, like a city council level run. It was shocking how minimalist and under resourced. This year it's about 2008 level.

    It's remarkable how utterly grassroots our side is. Just absolutley normal, average people coming in to work. Makes for some great connections and good developed friendships.

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  8. #2545
    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    Liberal comedian says Joe Biden lost the debate.

    This is another reason why I believe the party is turning away from Biden

    Marxist at the gate? I think not.
    We just see the winds differently. Back in March or whenever Biden became clear, I ended up predicting a 70% chance of a Dem sweep.

    It's pretty close to that still. The senate sits as follows:

    AZ +D, 95%
    CO +D, 80%
    ME +D, 2/3
    AL +R, 99%
    MT hold R, 2/3
    IA hold R, 55%
    GA hold R, 55%
    GA hold R, 50/50
    SC hold R, 50/50

    We're looking at +2D definite to +6D within reach, and +7D worst case. +3D is the number to flip it if Biden wins. And Biden winning I'd put at 85% now. His handlers have run the good stealth campaign we all feared after Bernie went down.

    Turnout is more motivated by anger and fear than anything else in politics. The anger level at Trump is higher than anyone to ever run, imo. It eclipses whatever disappointment may pop up at this very late stage with some Biden words. D wins on that turnout handily. The only marginally similar scenario, in terms of disgust at an incumbent, is Carter in 1980. That first Reagan level landslide for D is not outside the realm of possibility.

  9. #2546
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    Things I like about this picture:

    - The full size Reagan cutout in the back.
    - "We are going to paint this town red, white, and republican" poster.
    - No masks. (What an outrage!!)
    - American flags everywhere.
    - That's a nice pink blouse you have on.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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  11. #2547
    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    - That's a nice pink blouse you have on.
    Look at it this way. I'd have been in a D-Day wave knowing the truth of survival was small. But I'd go.

    I'd have been on the boats crossing the Delaware to face trained, professional Hessians knowing the same. But I'd go.

    I don't care the odds, I will fight to the end. But I don't need false encouragement to motivate me. If you were facing cancer with a 10% chance, you'd want a cheerleader doc or an honest doc? I demand the truth.

    Add: there's nothing you can say to insult me. You are on the team, period. Get out and work on this.

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  13. #2548
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    Look at it this way. I'd have been in a D-Day wave knowing the truth of survival was small. But I'd go.

    I'd have been on the boats crossing the Delaware to face trained, professional Hessians knowing the same. But I'd go.

    I don't care the odds, I will fight to the end. But I don't need false encouragement to motivate me. If you were facing cancer with a 10% chance, you'd want a cheerleader doc or an honest doc? I demand the truth.

    Add: there's nothing you can say to insult me. You are on the team, period. Get out and work on this.

    I'm a little baffled at the response. The intent of my comment was to get a laugh, not get a rise.

    ??? ???

    Did you think I was trying to insult you?
    Last edited by rockgremlin; 10-01-2020 at 04:56 PM.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

  14. #2549
    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    I'm a little baffled at the response. The intent of my comment was to get a laugh, not get a rise.

    ??? ???

    Did you think I was trying to insult you?
    Misunderstanding then. Thought you were remarking that my negative outlook made me a wuss.

    Story behind my response. I was flipped off by a Corvette driver a week ago when I wasn't going fast enough in the left lane and took too long to get out of it. This was a city street with a 45 limit. We ended up turning the same several next corners. I caught him and saw a Trump sticker. I pulled up alongside, rolled my window down. He looked over and I gave a thumbs up and yelled Trump. He was shocked but smiled back.

    That.

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  16. #2550
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    Misunderstanding then. Thought you were remarking that my negative outlook made me a wuss.

    Nah man...we might not see eye to eye on politics but I respect the hell out of you. I might rib you or chide you for your overly pessimistic outlook but would never intentionally try to insult you.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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  18. #2551
    What do we need to win this?

    1. A huge turnout from our side, of those who see the cliff's edge of one party rule we're on.

    2. A quick Trump recovery to lay raw the basic lie of the virus risk.

    3. Dem viciousness in the ACB hearings.

    In that order of importance. The only one we little peons can affect is no. 1. Get on it.

  19. #2552
    Dougie Downer... LOL....



  20. #2553
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    Dougie Downer... LOL....


    There are 2 sky is falling scenarios. 1, it's falling because of Trump and we need to elect Dems. 2, warning it will fall if Dems sweep and do what they say they're going to do.

    Do you doubt 2?

    Add: did my first walking this cycle today. More sophisticated setup, with an app to map and track places to hit. Far beyond 2016 and beyond 2012, though 2012's printed packets were damn good. (The app is Campaign Sidekick, in the app stores. Don't know if this is just R or a 3rd party maker and available to all sides)

    Regardless, I got no sense of some silent majority groundswell. Same old same old reactions in the 3 hours. Just reporting how I see it.

    Add2: To add color, places are rated 1 to 5 in GOP election data. 1 hard D, 2 squish D, 3 indep/unaffiliated, 4 squish R, 5 hard R. We were hitting 2 to 4 today. In my thinking I needed to see some elevated good from 2 and 3 and didn't. Anger at Trump was more common than concern about lawlessness and riots.

    Am I a product of CA, southern AZ, and now CO, all Dem places? Maybe and I hope so. I don't know what a place is like that isn't Dem and filled with shake your head idiots, I guess.

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  23. #2555
    That article is doggie doo doo. It says "nearly all blacks and the majority of every other ethnicity have embraced the Left." Strongly disagree with that assertion. So according to this article almost half the country has embraced the Left.

    Sounds like wishful thinking.
    Last edited by rockgremlin; 10-03-2020 at 02:46 PM.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

  24. #2556
    Quote Originally Posted by dougrz View Post
    There are 2 sky is falling scenarios. 1, it's falling because of Trump and we need to elect Dems. 2, warning it will fall if Dems sweep and do what they say they're going to do.

    Do you doubt 2?

    Add: did my first walking this cycle today. More sophisticated setup, with an app to map and track places to hit. Far beyond 2016 and beyond 2012, though 2012's printed packets were damn good. (The app is Campaign Sidekick, in the app stores. Don't know if this is just R or a 3rd party maker and available to all sides)

    Regardless, I got no sense of some silent majority groundswell. Same old same old reactions in the 3 hours. Just reporting how I see it.

    Add2: To add color, places are rated 1 to 5 in GOP election data. 1 hard D, 2 squish D, 3 indep/unaffiliated, 4 squish R, 5 hard R. We were hitting 2 to 4 today. In my thinking I needed to see some elevated good from 2 and 3 and didn't. Anger at Trump was more common than concern about lawlessness and riots.

    Am I a product of CA, southern AZ, and now CO, all Dem places? Maybe and I hope so. I don't know what a place is like that isn't Dem and filled with shake your head idiots, I guess.
    In spite of all this...I just can't believe that Trump, after all he's been thru, after all those that have come after him...it would be Joe Biden of all people to take him down.

    To this day I feel that the Dem party more or less just threw the election...they had to fight off Bernie and Joe was the last man standing. They can polish turds, they can sell an ugly dog, but they can't beat Trump with a guy who's done nothing more than shit himself for 50 years.

    I don't care about the media, the pols, the brainwashing, the hype, nonsense, bullshit. I'm hopeful and quite assured that Trump will remain the Prez...four years from now we'll see what the lay of the land is.

    "I won't think about that today. I'll think about that tomorrow"...works for me.
    The end of the world for some...
    The foundation of paradise for others.

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  26. #2557
    I'll just leave this here....



  27. #2558
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    I'll just leave this here....


    Yeah but this time it's different...
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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  29. #2559
    Yes, THIS TIME Biden is campaigning SO MUCH BETTER

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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  31. #2560
    Actually he is running a good campaign. Say as precious little as possible as the media savages Trump. There's nothing to point to as risk with him. Pointing to his followers isn't enough.

    It's why we needed Bernie. He would have been yelling everyday about his leftist plans. Unhideable.

    The race became yes-no on Trump, with "no" meaning nothing in particular. Rather than yes-leftist, where not yes meant something. They knew what they were doing by anointing Biden over all the others. The blandest, most meaningless candidate was their correct angle.

    Dennis Prager today made a prediction. With a Dem sweep, we will see Maoist China level public admissions of guilt against leftism become the new normal.

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