Medical Marijuana in Utah

[Sombeech]

I've seen arguments that it helps people with anxiety, chronic pain, epileptic seizures, glaucoma, and cancer patients. I could go on.

yeah I've seen the arguments that it cures cancer too

[jman]

Who are you talking to about weed? So far you keep insisting that it won't make you smarter, and that voting for Prop 2 won't bankrupt big Pharma.

But nobody I know is arguing those two things. I thought that stuff was common knowledge.

Regardless, it kinda sounds like folks are getting off track again...Prop 2 is for MEDICINAL not RECREATIONAL marijuana usage. There's a huge difference.

Well...unless you happen to live something like 100 miles away from a dispensary, then you would be “allowed” to grow it recreationally...but I mean...for “medicinal” use.

Watch out rural Utah, you are soon going to be seeing a influx of “visitors” and “new neighbors”.


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[rockgremlin]

yeah I've seen the arguments that it cures cancer too

Used to treat the symptoms of cancer....absolutely. Even the National Cancer Institute believes this: https://www.cancer.org/treatment/tre...nd-cancer.html

As far as curing or defeating cancer itself...wellllll, yeah that's mostly speculative. But even all but the most hardened stoner will concede this.


Just curious....what narrative are you promoting anyway? That pot has absolutely ZERO medicinal benefits, and all of these propositions that have sprung up all over the U.S. are just well crafted lies to promote the widespread use of recreational MJ? Cuz that's the vibe you're putting out.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[twotimer]

Just curious....what narrative are you promoting anyway? That pot has absolutely ZERO medicinal benefits, and all of these propositions that have sprung up all over the U.S. are just well crafted lies to promote the widespread use of recreational MJ? Cuz that's the vibe you're putting out.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaking for myself...yes.

And you don't need to be corrected, because opinions vary.

[rockgremlin]

Speaking for myself...yes.

And you don't need to be corrected, because opinions vary.

WOW. I guess placebo is a powerful thing eh? All those folks who are/were suffering from seizures and chemo -- they're all just benefiting from the placebo effect because MJ has absolutely zero medicinal value. Crazy...

[twotimer]

WOW. I guess placebo is a powerful thing eh? All those folks who are/were suffering from seizures and chemo -- they're all just benefiting from the placebo effect because MJ has absolutely zero medicinal value. Crazy...

Oh yeah! I'm crazy alright...crazy man with crazy opinions. No denying that.

You should take a chill pill, Mr. Gremlin. Seems like you're taking this all a bit personally. Besides, you're swingin' the big dick now, as it passed. You got to see the church get kicked in the teeth, too.

It was legal here in for years as "medicine", and my friends were joyously pouring hash oil on top of the buds.

[uintafly]

Nobody can argue this.

Who is? I haven't seen people (other than a very few kooks) argue that it makes anyone smarter? To me that isn't the point though. It can't be argued that a super sized Big Mac meal is healthy, but I don't personally need the government to make my meal choices for me. There is currently an estimated 12.7 million obese kids in America. If they all become obese adults, what is the societal costs? And yet, when Michelle Obama tried to push for healthier school lunch options the right screeched about freedom. Now I am supposed to listen to these same people say pot should be illegal because of societal costs?

Annual healthcare costs for obesity related illness is $190 billion though, so maybe you guys are correct and we need the all knowing government to step in and help get us into shape. We can call it the war on cellulite and create a big agency called the Fatass Enforcement Agency. Based on the glowing success of the war on drugs, I am sure we will have it whipped in just a few months.

[Sombeech]

Just curious....what narrative are you promoting anyway?

I'm not promoting any point of view, no narrative. I'm just the guy providing a balanced check to odd claims. I've still never said whether or not I'm opposed to Medical Marijuana, or Prop 2. I'm just replying to BS claims whenever they are made.

I'm sure we've heard the conspiracy theory that Marijuana does cure / help with cancer, but big pharma is once again suppressing it because it would cut into their profits. Of course, this line of logic, once followed through, would have to see big pharma investing in Marijuana healing properties for BILLIONS more in profit.

This was the reason the LDS church was opposed first of all, because of their stock profile invested in big pharma, I remember reading that theory many a time.

So I don't buy for one second that big pharma is opposing Marijuana and that it actually does curb cancer, because they would be all over it for the profits if nothing else. Big pharma would have the finest pot growing fields with the best strains, much better than a stoner in his basement.

If there is a decent chance it helps with Cancer, big pharma would be in a race to take all of the glory for finding the cure to cancer.

[rockgremlin]

You should take a chill pill, Mr. Gremlin.

When you say "chill pill" are you referring to an edible?


Perhaps you're right and I need to back off. I think maybe this "Platinum Status" has gone to my head. For all of this rhetoric on behalf of marijuana you'd think that I toke up on the regular, but alas 'tis not so. I can't recall when the last time it was...

[uintafly]

I'm not promoting any point of view, no narrative. I'm just the guy providing a balanced check to odd claims. I've still never said whether or not I'm opposed to Medical Marijuana, or Prop 2. I'm just replying to BS claims whenever they are made.

I'm sure we've heard the conspiracy theory that Marijuana does cure / help with cancer, but big pharma is once again suppressing it because it would cut into their profits. Of course, this line of logic, once followed through, would have to see big pharma investing in Marijuana healing properties for BILLIONS more in profit.

This was the reason the LDS church was opposed first of all, because of their stock profile invested in big pharma, I remember reading that theory many a time.

So I don't buy for one second that big pharma is opposing Marijuana and that it actually does curb cancer, because they would be all over it for the profits if nothing else. Big pharma would have the finest pot growing fields with the best strains, much better than a stoner in his basement.

If there is a decent chance it helps with Cancer, big pharma would be in a race to take all of the glory for finding the cure to cancer.

Come on man. Nobody with any brains believes that conspiracy theory. Sure, you can probably find a few nut jobs on facebook repeating it, but you can also find a few nut jobs who thought Hillary was running an underground sec ring out of a pizza place. I'd say 98% of legalization folks are either like me and think the government should mind their own business, or people that want to use it for whatever reason (medical* or recreational) and don't want to have to risk jail.

*as an appetite enhancer, mild pain killer, or for the proven effects on seizures.

[Scott Card]

For all of this rhetoric on behalf of marijuana you'd think that I toke up on the regular, but alas 'tis not so. I can't recall when the last time it was...

Well, that proves my point.....

[rockgremlin]

Well, that proves my point.....

I KNEW THAT WAS COMING!!!

[Sombeech]

Nobody with any brains believes that conspiracy theory.

I agree

[twotimer]

When you say "chill pill" are you referring to an edible?

Watch out for those damn things! I was in Hawaii a couple years ago when a girlfriend of mine came out to join me. She brought some edibles when we went backpacking in the National Park. I'd never had one.

We were going on a big dayhike and I dropped one into my morning tea...a jelly like thing about the size of a silver dollar. It dissolved and I drank it.

It hit me within 15 minutes and I spent the next 3 hours laid out in the tent. I'll never do that again.

[accadacca]

West Wendover has approved the sale of recreational marijuana.

"I’m sure their sales are going to be high," Mayor Daniel Corona told FOX 13 after the vote, adding: "Pun not intended."

https://fox13now.com/2018/11/20/west...rijuana-sales/

[uintafly]

Watch out for those damn things! I was in Hawaii a couple years ago when a girlfriend of mine came out to join me. She brought some edibles when we went backpacking in the National Park. I'd never had one.

We were going on a big dayhike and I dropped one into my morning tea...a jelly like thing about the size of a silver dollar. It dissolved and I drank it.

It hit me within 15 minutes and I spent the next 3 hours laid out in the tent. I'll never do that again.

I had a similar experience about 5 years ago when a coworker gave me a homemade "cookie". It took about an hour to fully hit, but when it did I legitimately couldn't move. I remember laying there and thinking "I'm pretty sure my body will keep breathing for me, but no other muscle is working so who knows." Fast forward a few years and I was skiing in Steamboat and had a friend buy a special chocolate bar. No amount of coaxing was getting me to take a bite of that thing.

[rockgremlin]

West Wendover has approved the sale of recreational marijuana.

"I’m sure their sales are going to be high," Mayor Daniel Corona told FOX 13 after the vote, adding: "Pun not intended."

https://fox13now.com/2018/11/20/west...rijuana-sales/

Rah Roh...




I'm 100% certain that the UHP will spend a LOT more time along that stretch of I-80. If you thought enforcement was tight along the Wyoming/Utah border trolling for fireworks, you ain't seen nothing yet!

[Sombeech]

My first edible experience was like most, I waited 45 minutes and it didn't hit, so I took another. There's a whole lotta more complicated detail to where I was and who I was with that night, but I think I barely made it out alive. Sometimes you're convinced that if you don't remember to breathe, you'll stop.

[uintafly]

My first edible experience was like most, I waited 45 minutes and it didn't hit, so I took another. There's a whole lotta more complicated detail to where I was and who I was with that night, but I think I barely made it out alive. Sometimes you're convinced that if you don't remember to breathe, you'll stop.

Sounds like many have been there before, it is really such a terrible feeling, but it makes me laugh to remember it.

I remember reading about some journalist who went to Colorado shortly after they legalized it. She had never smoked pot before and somehow thought it would be a good idea to take a bunch of edibles and sit in her hotel room all by herself. Sounded like she had a pretty terrible few hours and didn't think she would make it out alive.

[twotimer]

I remember hearing about that gal, too. I recall thinking she was a total lightweight...and then I went and did the same thing.