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    Medical Marijuana in Utah

    Looks like itís going to pass.





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    I read that the results were heavily in favor in Salt Lake and Weber counties, but heavily opposed in Davis and Utah counties. No surprise there ~ with the heavy LDS population and the diligent efforts the church invested in last minute campaigning against it.

    I was questioning why the church was so diligent at campaigning at the last second even after all parties had to agreed to hold off on campaigning either for or against after that compromise with the Gov was struck.

    Guess it doesn't really matter now.
    Do as you would be done by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    I read that the results were heavily in favor in Salt Lake and Weber counties, but heavily opposed in Davis and Utah counties. No surprise there ~ with the heavy LDS population and the diligent efforts the church invested in last minute campaigning against it.

    I was questioning why the church was so diligent at campaigning at the last second even after all parties had to agreed to hold off on campaigning either for or against after that compromise with the Gov was struck.

    Guess it doesn't really matter now.
    Because if it failed there is no chance in hell they would have actually done anything about it. This forces their hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    Because if it failed there is no chance in hell they would have actually done anything about it. This forces their hand.
    "I know this Church is True, Joseph Smith was a prophet and it's better to stick with Prozac, Xanax and Opiods over something that comes from the earth."

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    And just like that, the Mormons weren't as oppressively controlling as people said they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    And just like that, the Mormons weren't as oppressively controlling as people said they were.
    lol. You really are interested in how people view the Mormons. Is there a thread on here where you haven't brought up the poor picked on Mormons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    lol. You really are interested in how people view the Mormons. Is there a thread on here where you haven't brought up the poor picked on Mormons?
    Funny, I only reply to prior comments about the Mormons.

    Are you conflicted now that it passed, but the Mormons are supposed to be super controlling?

    What now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    Funny, I only reply to prior comments about the Mormons.

    Are you conflicted now that it passed, but the Mormons are supposed to be super controlling?

    What now?
    lol, yes I am super conflicted. What will I ever do?

    For some reason, though I don't have any ill will toward the Mormon Church or Mormons in general, you still love to play the "he's picking on me" card. Oh and the church can still be considered "super controlling" and the prop can pass. I would bet if you looked at the stats, had only Mormons voted, it would have went down in flames. And the church did come out loud and often in opposition, so to somehow try to spin this as the church isn't controlling is a bit of a stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    lAnd the church did come out loud and often in opposition, so to somehow try to spin this as the church isn't controlling is a bit of a stretch.

    This is exactly my point. The church breached the "silent agreement" that all parties agreed to by coming out in the eleventh hour in strong opposition to Prop 2 here:

    https://www.ksl.com/article/46419486...hns-to-vote-no


    That one was a bit of a head-scratcher...everybody else agreed to maintain silence as per the agreements laid out in the compromise with the Governor. Why did the church feel they needed to renege on that in a last ditch message in opposition? It just looks desperate.
    Do as you would be done by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    lol. You really are interested in how people view the Mormons. Is there a thread on here where you haven't brought up the poor picked on Mormons?
    I am Mormon.... just a terrible one. I like to pick on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    lol. You really are interested in how people view the Mormons. Is there a thread on here where you haven't brought up the poor picked on Mormons?
    What a silly critique!!! Sombeech expresses a valid opinion in what he thinks is true, and he gets mocked for it?? uintafly must be a liberal. Name calling is the argument of the child/liberal. But this is the internet. There are trolls and liberal "logic" everywhere you look. If you're going to be a part of the psuedo-public arena, you've got to be able to handle criticism. I'm just surprised how silly this particular criticism is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qedcook View Post
    What a silly critique!!! Sombeech expresses a valid opinion in what he thinks is true, and he gets mocked for it?? uintafly must be a liberal. Name calling is the argument of the child/liberal. But this is the internet. There are trolls and liberal "logic" everywhere you look. If you're going to be a part of the psuedo-public arena, you've got to be able to handle criticism. I'm just surprised how silly this particular criticism is.
    Nah, he must be getting irritated that there's somebody sticking up for the Mormons. It would piss me off too if I hated them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qedcook View Post
    What a silly critique!!! Sombeech expresses a valid opinion in what he thinks is true, and he gets mocked for it?? uintafly must be a liberal. Name calling is the argument of the child/liberal. But this is the internet. There are trolls and liberal "logic" everywhere you look. If you're going to be a part of the psuedo-public arena, you've got to be able to handle criticism. I'm just surprised how silly this particular criticism is.
    So true, the high minded conservatives are above such low brow humor as name calling and mocking. Only the snowflake libtards in their safespaces while collecting participation trophies and living off welfare in their moms basement would stoop so low as to generalize and mock! Conservatives have risen above it all, led my Mr. respectful himself, Donald J. Trump! Though I am confused, your post seems to have some name calling in it, so does that make you a liberal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    So true, the high minded conservatives are above such low brow humor as name calling and mocking. Only the snowflake libtards in their safespaces while collecting participation trophies and living off welfare in their moms basement would stoop so low as to generalize and mock! Conservatives have risen above it all, led my Mr. respectful himself, Donald J. Trump! Though I am confused, your post seems to have some name calling in it, so does that make you a liberal?
    Sorry, never got around to replying to this. I'm sure we could get into a cyclical "no, you're a name-caller" match, but in the spirit of thanksgiving, I'm going to take the higher road. Just kidding, just kidding. I just think it's lame for everyone to be allowed to have all sorts of different ideas--and to have all sorts of different motivations for their ideas--but as soon as someone's motivation could even hint at being partially religious in nature, they can be instantly attacked and discredited??? It's presumptuous to automatically jump to the conclusion that religion has anything to do with a person's reasoning. And, so what if it does?

    On a sidenote, I was joking about the liberal thing. I agree totally that republicans can be just as bad at mocking and name-calling.

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    So, is it not a valid point that this proposition passed with ease, despite all of the talk of the monopolistic oppression from the LDS Church?

    I thought it was a valid point. 3 mentions of the church in opposition and I'm the one that gets called out for my 1 comment? OK I guess, I know it's fun to complain about the super oppressive nazi Mormon church, but you shouldn't get so upset that once in a while somebody might have the balls to give a proper rebuttal with facts.

    If Prop 2 passed in Utah, all of your comments about the super controlling Mormon church are complete bullshit.

    I don't care either way, but whenever I read something posted here that doesn't make sense, I like to give some educational feedback.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    If Prop 2 passed in Utah, all of your comments about the super controlling Mormon church are complete bullshit.
    That's not necessarily true, a majority of Mormon's were in favor of Prop 2 before the Church came out against it. It went from roughly 77% down to 55% in approval once their opposition was voiced. Surely many Mormon's went against the Church's opposition and voted for it. That doesn't mean the Church isn't super controlling, just possibly losing its control on membership.

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    Just because Prop 2 passed doesn't mean the church isn't controlling.

    As I stated earlier, and which I'll repeat here, the church broke a previously agreed to silence to aggressively campaign against Prop 2 in the eleventh hour, just days before the election. Why would they do that? Nobody else had a problem holding their tongue.

    As Uintah stated, if it were up to strictly the church members the Prop would have failed miserably. Heck, it failed miserably in Utah and Davis counties -- what does that tell you?
    Do as you would be done by.

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    The LDS church came out at the last minute against marijuana in hope of torpedoing the idea completely... plain and simple.

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    but hey if I suggest the other side of the argument, @uintafly is gonna call me out on it.

    4 arguments countering the LDS church's stance, and 1 stating the LDS isn't as controlling as accused, and I'm the one called out on it. Hilarious.

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