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    Where do voters stand on Proposition 2? - Deseret News Poll



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    I support the legalization of ALL drugs.... and then tax the shit out of them. Legalizing all drugs will tell you exactly who is commiting the crimes as a guy with a $200 a day drug habit and no job is getting his cash from somewhere. You can also use some of the tax dollars to get those who want it the help they need, that's a win - win - win - win situation. The "War on Drugs" is a fool errand.



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    ^^^ Portugal decriminalized all drugs almost two decades ago, and it's working out very well for them.

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    I'm not with you guys on "all drugs". Meth is friggin' poison. No one should be allowed to make or sell it. It just eats people up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    I'm not with you guys on "all drugs". Meth is friggin' poison. No one should be allowed to make or sell it. It just eats people up.
    I agree meth is posion... but.... We already know that criminalizing doesn't work.

    Legalize it and then you can control it, at a minimum you can eliminate the numerous side effects that are a drag on society.

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    I really don't care either way, but next time I hear that Mormons are the reason that Medical Marijuana is still illegal, I'm going to help enforce that opinion by voting to keep it illegal.

    Want it legal? Stop blaming Mormons and come up with a convincing argument to sway people like me in the middle of the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    I really don't care either way, but next time I hear that Mormons are the reason that Medical Marijuana is still illegal, I'm going to help enforce that opinion by voting to keep it illegal.

    Want it legal? Stop blaming Mormons and come up with a convincing argument to sway people like me in the middle of the road.

    I'm beginning to wonder if you are capable of posting an article about Marijuana without inevitably pulling Mormons into the discussion...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    I really don't care either way, but next time I hear that Mormons are the reason that Medical Marijuana is still illegal, I'm going to help enforce that opinion by voting to keep it illegal.

    Want it legal? Stop blaming Mormons and come up with a convincing argument to sway people like me in the middle of the road.
    IMO...nothing really good comes from it being legal, aside from lots of new entrepreneurs. It's addictive and expensive. Homeless people live in the bushes near the dispensaries.

    This coming from a guy who's smoked enough to choke a goat and occasionally still partake. Before legalization, there was always some guy who showed up at (name your party or event) with pot...the pothead. That's when you partook.

    Now I meet friends to bike and they're pouring hash oil on top of the buds before lighting it up. That's hardcore. I can't do that, it'll make me go to sleep.

    If you said you might be interested in trying it? I'd say don't bother.

    If it becomes totally ubiquitous across the land, then so be it. I'm personally not an advocate for it. If I could go back and vote again, I would have voted against.
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    I don't have a solid answer on this; not religious, not super political, not super judgmental. BUT, my wife and I spent some time this summer in Colorado and visited a few "dispensaries" to see about some creme, gum, etc, for our autistic son. What we encountered in those "stores" was interesting. Mostly, what we saw were pot heads wanting one foot long joints rolled for them because they were too stoned to do it themselves and in some instances, some older folks just wanting pain care via rolled joints. Regardless, tax rate for CBD or non-CBD was around 40% to the State. Winner = Government, as per usual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    I'm beginning to wonder if you are capable of posting an article about Marijuana without inevitably pulling Mormons into the discussion...
    That's it I'm voting no

    PS... show me a Utah Marijuana legalization discussion without the mention of Mormons and I'll upgrade your status to double platinum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    That's it I'm voting no

    PS... show me a Utah Marijuana legalization discussion without the mention of Mormons and I'll upgrade your status to double platinum
    This got a bonafide belly laugh out of me.

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    Does that include the comments? I've seen loads of articles about it that don't even mention the church, but the very first comment is typically about those stupid mormons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    I really don't care either way, but next time I hear that Mormons are the reason that Medical Marijuana is still illegal....
    Do you not believe that the LDS Church has an influence on politics in Utah? The LDS Church came out and told its members how to vote (seen here and emailed directly to many of its members). An organization which teaches that whether the leader of their organization says something or God says it, it is the same tells their members how to vote and you don't think that will have an impact?
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    Sombeech, I already posted reasons in another thread as to why legalization is the better path. If you, like me, thought it was nuts when Bloomberg banned large sodas in NYC, than you should also not be a fan of the government telling you what you can smoke. Doesn't every good conservative love Milton Friedman? Uncle Milty was a huge proponent of legalization strictly on philosophical grounds. I am the same way, but there is also plenty of data out there suggesting that criminalizing has not had any positive effect. I'm with Ice and say legalize drugs and tax em to death. Get rid of the criminal element on the selling side and have tax funds available for treatment. I'd be willing to bet that I have seen the effects of meth addiction as much if not more than anyone else on the board and hate the drug. But having it illegal has done nothing to stop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    I'd be willing to bet that I have seen the effects of meth addiction as much if not more than anyone else on the board and hate the drug. But having it illegal has done nothing to stop it.
    Three of my wife's four brothers are in prison for Meth, two are in state prison and one is in Federal prison. All three have been in and out of prison and jail numerous times and the root cause is always Meth. I've had a front row seat to the problems of Meth for the past 20 years and I can promise you criminalizing it doesn't solve the problem.

    When her brothers get out of prison I can guarantee you all three will be back on Meth in less then a year as there is no treatment and no help available to them (at least nothing they can afford).

    Anyhoo... that's my experience with the war on drugs...


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