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    the famous dem cry is---"if it can save just one life"

    What I have mentioned would have a great chance to have stopped most all of the school shootings.

    Problem is, dems don't want a simple fix, they want choas and then government control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    question, dirk.

    if a guy gets in a car drunk and kills a pedestrian, what should happen?
    I expect the standard rule of law to kick in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkHammergate View Post
    Seems Orwellian
    as does gun confiscation, amiright?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkHammergate View Post
    I expect the standard rule of law to kick in.
    So why not ban cars if drunks can drive them and kill people?

    I agree with you, though, lets let the laws on the books take care of it.

    doesn't really make sense to punish law abiding citizens(car drivers, gun owners) for crimes created by a very minute segment of the population, does it.
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    So, this problem is solvable by using ordinary measures?

    Or at least reduced greatly?
    Those rules won't solve the problem, but they should reduce school shootings.

    PS, as I've said before I have no problem with you owning firearms. I do worry about those with mental problems and a violent history owning them though. As mentioned, one of my extended family members is mentally ill and has threatened to gun down the family several times. Right now gun laws say that someone has to be forcefully institutionalized or be declared mentally incompetent by the State. That's not good enough in my eyes and even then it seems it can easily be skirted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    as does gun confiscation, amiright?
    Where in this thread have I suggested gun confiscation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkHammergate View Post
    Where in this thread have I suggested gun confiscation?
    you cited Orwell--have you not read "1984"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    you cited Orwell--have you not read "1984"?
    I have. High School requirement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    Those rules won't solve the problem, but they should reduce school shootings.

    PS, as I've said before I have no problem with you owning firearms. I do worry about those with mental problems and a violent history owning them though. As mentioned, one of my extended family members is mentally ill and has threatened to gun down the family several times. Right now gun laws say that someone has to be forcefully institutionalized or be declared mentally incompetent by the State. That's not good enough in my eyes and even then it seems it can easily be skirted.
    So we agree that very simple procedures would all but stop school shootings.

    The mental issue is a tougher nut to crack, no doubt.

    But I have to think there is an answer that does not infringe on a citizens rights.

    The obama "regulation" allowed the government to decide who was competent to own a firearm.

    In a divided, or any country, that cannot work, as the majority would always abuse this power, it's inevitable.
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    I've also read the Bible and Book of Mormon, I'm fascinated by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkHammergate View Post
    I have. High School requirement.
    Did you notice all the citizens were allowed to own firearms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    A lot of the mentally ill can't afford decent healthcare. Aren't you against providing health care for anyone that can't afford it (serious question).
    Nope, I've never stated any such thing.

    We need to fix our healthcare system, starting with killing Obamacare as it has only made things worse. The only thing Obamacare accomplished was making certain everyone had equally shitty insurance.

    If we want to be ideological we need to adopt a single point pay system, except anyone who has visited the US Post Office, or Verterans Hospital or watched our Senate and House knows the government can't be trusted to run it correctly.

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    Trump = Mental Illness

    IceAxe = Fix Mental health + Enforcing existing laws (I agree with that HIPAA thought)
    TwoTimer = The media is to blame, possibly put mental health kiosks in every Starbucks
    oldno7 = Locking school doors after morning bell, nation wide I presume

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    Did you notice all the citizens were allowed to own firearms?
    I was focusing on mostly how they were confined, locking all schools seems like a budgetary nightmare anyway and un-American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkHammergate View Post
    I was focusing on mostly how they were confined, locking all schools seems like a budgetary nightmare anyway and un-American.
    Budgetary nightmare?? Are you not aware of "congress", we can afford anything.

    Sounds like many kids in Utah, that I'm aware of and Colorado, that Scott is aware of, already do this, are these schools un American?
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    Anyway--enough of this--back to 1984.

    What would you call the type of government in this Orwellian book?
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    on another note---dirk, you seem like kinda the community organizer here, trying to compartmentalize everyones thoughts, what is your solution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    Budgetary nightmare?? Are you not aware of "congress", we can afford anything.

    Sounds like many kids in Utah, that I'm aware of and Colorado, that Scott is aware of, already do this, are these schools un American?
    I don't know of any here in Utah that lock doors, check in yes but that's just normal parent stuff checking kids in and out. Inform me on the many schools that do lock doors all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    Anyway--enough of this--back to 1984.

    What would you call the type of government in this Orwellian book?
    I'll go upstairs and ask my Mom

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    on another note---dirk, you seem like kinda the community organizer here, trying to compartmentalize everyones thoughts, what is your solution?
    No idea man... no idea, that's why I posed the question.

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