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02-20-2018, 06:33 AM #1412020 Jeep Gladiator (2" Lift, 37" Tires, Falcon 3.3 Shocks, Lockers, Sliders)
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02-20-2018 06:33 AM # ADS
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02-20-2018, 07:43 AM #142
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02-20-2018, 01:08 PM #143
Parenting and the values learned at home are an influence, that's for sure. Unfortunately, there's a lot of single parents out there and, they have their hands full trying to provide and parent.
Funny...you point out violence on TV and video games...yet, your bogley handle of "BruteForce" and your avatar would indicate you don't practice what you preach yourself.
Yeah, we're a violent, gun society. We tend to reap what we sow.
Core of the issue? What is the "core of the issue"?
You might have something with the "emotionally detached people". How do we get people to care about others?
We had an interesting lunch table discussion on this briefly today...(loud enough that it raised a few eyebrows).
A lot of solutions proposed still wouldn't prevent a lot of these tragedies. We kind of all just gave up on finding a solution...
I dunno. Genie is out of the bottle. Tough to stuff back in.
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02-20-2018, 02:36 PM #144
My kids all range in age between 10 - 16, and they all play "violent video games." Have for years. And I play right along side them. We play Halo and Gears of War together. And we talk openly about the topics of the day. I highly doubt that any of them will be mowing down first graders with an AR during their lifetimes.
Video games are not the reason why Sandy Hook or any other school shooting has taken place. Get a grip.
A few comments from one of my favorite comedian/magicians, Penn Gillette:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9ukt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_EKdcxQhT4It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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02-20-2018, 04:15 PM #145
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02-21-2018, 04:10 AM #1462020 Jeep Gladiator (2" Lift, 37" Tires, Falcon 3.3 Shocks, Lockers, Sliders)
2018 Polaris Sportsman XP 1000 (Hunter Edition)
2014 Polaris Sportsman XP 850 HO EFI EPS (Browning Edition)
2009 Dodge Ram 3500 Mega Laramie/Resistol DRW (~800HP/1400TQ)
Yukon Charlies 930 Trail Series Snow Shoes
5.11 Tactical Coyote Boots
The random world and adventures of BruteForce
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02-21-2018, 08:38 AM #147
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02-21-2018, 09:03 AM #148
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02-21-2018, 11:49 AM #149
So when are you guys going to change you minds so we can get shit done my way?!?
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02-21-2018, 12:00 PM #150
@Scott P, I looked into this and it was established as part of the 1968 Gun Control Act.
The ages were purely arbitrary, but the reasoning behind 21 for handguns is because they are used in more than 70% of all crimes.
The big problem I see with 21 required for black rifles is there is no way to define them, the 1994 assault weapon ban proved that as the manufacturers just engineered their way around any description established. Kind of like trying to define porn.
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02-21-2018, 12:03 PM #151
While I'm not OK with giving up my AR or banning future AR purchases (because i believe banning them won't stop one future mass killing spree from happening) I would be OK with a few restrictions or changes to current law. I understand you might not be OK with anything on my list and that's fine, too. It's just my thoughts.
- Ban bump stocks
- Restrict magazine size to 20. I know, I know. Confiscating existing 30 round (or larger) magazines would be an impossible task as there are literally millions of them out there. Plus, it would create a huge under-the-table market for existing ones and the price would be sky-high.
- Increase the age to legally purchase any firearm to at least 21 and maybe even 25, with an exemption clause for any military or ex-military members without any red-flag mental health issues on their record.Are we there yet?
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02-21-2018, 12:12 PM #152
For what it's worth, California has strict laws banning the AR-15... the black rifles below are still legal in CA... which just proves the point they are difficult to outlaw....
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02-21-2018, 12:24 PM #153
This is the only thought I might get behind.
The Virginia Tech shooter did that with mostly 10 round magazines. He had 17 10 round mags and 2 15 round mags if I remember correctly.
There are some studies that suggest military and ex military are more prone to commit mass shootings. Here is a list of just military base shootings. https://www.ranker.com/list/military...ike-rothschild
So now you want to infringe directly on the 2nd Amendment? Which other Amendments do you disagree with? There is nothing in the Constitution or Bill of Rights about these freedoms will save lives.
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02-21-2018, 12:35 PM #154
I still want to know why we need more gun laws when we don't enforce the gun laws already on the books?
To me that's just commonsense of where you should start, but we already know commonsense isn't nearly as common as you would hope.
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02-21-2018, 12:46 PM #155
I don't disagree with any of your responses. I'm just thinking ahead a bit. With all the mass hysteria going on right now, I'm guessing some concessions will need to be made and these are the things I could live with without feeling like I totally got screwed. And, yes, we definitely need to enforce the laws already on the books.
Are we there yet?
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02-21-2018, 12:47 PM #156
Maybe it's just a matter of waiting the hysteria out. It could all blow over. Until we have another mass shooting.
Are we there yet?
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02-21-2018, 01:00 PM #157
Immediately following every single catastrophic event, there is always a cry to "just do something"
Thats human nature, there is no one alive who wants/enjoys seeing the slaughter of people, except the mentally deranged.
The short term affects of "just do something" often come with long term consequences.
Any part of any "Right" that is relinquished, rarely comes back, on the contrary--the erosion of rights grows, as does the call to "just do something".
Liberty cannot and does not =security.
Security is unobtainable,the faux feeling of security begins with relinquishing rights to a government.I'm not Spartacus
It'll come back.
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02-21-2018, 01:11 PM #158
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02-21-2018, 01:20 PM #159I'm not Spartacus
It'll come back.
Professional Mangler of Grammar
Guns don't kill people--Static Ropes Do!!
Who Is John Galt?
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02-21-2018, 01:20 PM #160
It takes time. I understand the survivors of the latest shooting are meeting at the Capitol today to demand change. It most likely will not change anything significant.
This is a problem that will have to be resolved over generations of hardship, policy change, and public perception. It can't and won't be resolved overnight.It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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