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    ^^^I'll take the 7th grade math teacher protecting me in an active shooter situation over no protection at all... and I'm betting just about everyone that found themselves in such a situation would agree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    When did Obama say a wall should be built?
    This is strange, it's not like it was 50 years ago, I mean look at this shee-hat. WTF

    This comes down to the practice I mentioned prior, many of these same people cannot form their own opinion, or they don't dare to. First they must hear a topic, and then find out what "their side" says about it, then they will gladly take up a stronghold position on where the party does. These aren't independent thinkers. It's like the husband asking his wife if it's ok to laugh or clap at something.

    I'm not accusing you, Scott, of this. You're clearly independent an intelligent enough to form your own opinion without the need to check if you're in line with your familiar sources. But man oh man, we sure do see this growing on both sides.


  5. #284
    Originally Posted by Scott P
    When did Obama say a wall should be built?



    This is strange, it's not like it was 50 years ago, I mean look at this shee-hat. WTF
    Yes, I already know about all that. I was asking about Obama specifically, not Hillary, Bill, etc. Where did he ever say a wall should be built?

    Obama did vote for a fence even during the Bush Administration. Here is the bill:

    https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archi...0061026-1.html

    Yes, Obama has said much about immigration and securing our borders. Here is what he said in 2014:

    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...on-immigration

    Still, I am not aware of Obama ever saying a wall should be built. I know he has said a fence, tighter security, etc. I did phrase it in the form of a question just in case there was an off chance that he did say we should build a wall and I wasn't aware of it, but I still haven't ever seen/heard anything pertaining to building a wall from Obama. In the video you posted, he doesn't say anything about a wall. In the video makes statements about a fence, security at the borders, etc., but not the wall.

    (PS, I'm not picking on you; I only questioned one statement).

    And, yes, I already know that both sides are hypocritical. Pick your video:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=repu...w=1280&bih=709

    https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C....0.vyuhSZlLYE8
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    Walmart bans gun sales to anyone under 21 after Parkland, Florida school shooting


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post

    I strictly oppose building a wall between U.S. and Mexico. Not because I believe it's immoral, but because quite simply it's an incredibly expensive and horribly ineffective option that just won't work -- at least not the way Trump believes it will.

    Hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars devoted to building something that almost any motivated Mexican can thwart or avoid with ease. No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    I strictly oppose building a wall between U.S. and Mexico. Not because I believe it's immoral, but because quite simply it's an incredibly expensive and horribly ineffective option that just won't work -- at least not the way Trump believes it will.

    Hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars devoted to building something that almost any motivated Mexican can thwart or avoid with ease. No thanks.
    I agree. Further, most illegals are those who overextend their visas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    I agree. Further, most illegals are those who overextend their visas.
    So only a minimal amount of illegals will be affected by the wall then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    So only a minimal amount of illegals will be affected by the wall then?
    Some will be affected, but most won't.

    As with Rockgremlin my opposition to the wall is the cost. It seems like a huge waste, especially for the reasons mentioned.
    Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    So only a minimal amount of illegals will be affected by the wall then?
    The wall is a lot more than just illegal aliens, it's also about drug interdiction and controlling your borders among other things.

    I don't know exactly what the answer is but there are certainly places that a border wall makes sense.... or... you can deal with the problems that come with an open border, pick your poison.




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    ^^^Looks like:


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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    San Diego/Shit Hole

    Nogales/Shit Hole
    FTFY


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    There's all kinds of nasty shit coming over the border. I think these walls and tighter security is a must. I'm mostly concerned with terrorists or agents of other nations just getting right in. I think we've been dodging a bullet with out southern border for a long time. We've got a third world/corrupt nation right next door that might soon be getting a lot more socialist...meaning even more jacked up. Check out the politics down there.
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    I'm mostly concerned with terrorists or agents of other nations just getting right in.
    Terrorists are more likely to enter through Canada.

    From Mexico, drugs are a much bigger problem.

    We've got a third world/corrupt nation right next door
    Corrupt, yes; third world, no. By world standards, Mexico is fairly rich country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    Terrorists are more likely to enter through Canada.

    From Mexico, drugs are a much bigger problem.



    Corrupt, yes; third world, no. By world standards, Mexico is fairly rich country.
    Canada huh? What makes you say that?

    When is the last time you were in Mexico? Did you travel outside the touristy areas? I was in La Paz in January and it's a shithole. There is fun, outdoorsy stuff to do there, but the city is a filthy mess away from where the gringos hang out. Yes, I know you've traveled the world and are infinitely wise with these things. Perhaps our eyeballs interpret things differently.

    No need to respond to what I just said, Scott. Please ignore the question marks as I'm not interested in your focused on minutiae Professor Peterson opinion. I'm for "The Wall"...period.
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    Canada huh? What makes you say that?
    Would you believe Fox News?

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/10...ia-canada.html

    It's a lot easier for terrorists to cross the Canadian border than the Mexican one.

    When is the last time you were in Mexico? Did you travel outside the touristy areas?
    I was there in November. See the trip log:

    https://www.summitpost.org/2017-trip-log/992318

    Before that, the next most recent trip was 11 months earlier. See the December trip log:

    https://www.summitpost.org/2016-trip-log/963348

    The only touristy area we visited was the Aztec pyramids. We almost never go to touristy areas.

    Perhaps our eyeballs interpret things differently.
    Of course they do. Perspective. I was comparing Mexico to the World rather than just to the US. Mexico is not as developed as the US, but it's far more developed than much of the world and far cleaner and more developed than it was in the early 1990's, which when I started going there.

    Also, the neighborhoods I grew up in and that my parents still live in aren't any better than an average neighborhood in Mexico.

    A lot of illegal immigrants cross the border into Mexico because the standard of living is higher there than it is in places such as Guatemala and Honduras. A lot of counties in latin America consider Mexico to be a "rich" country.

    So to sum it up, Mexico is not as developed as the US. It is still more developed than much of the world.

    I still wouldn't want to live in much of Mexico because of the corruption and crime rates in many of the areas. If corruption could be curtailed, it would be a much better place.


    No need to respond to what I just said, Scott.
    Too bad; I responded anyway.
    Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.

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    A wall, a fence, a moat full of alligators...whatever. Just build it.

    How does that work with your logical detail? Different eyeballs, indeed.
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    https://www.sltrib.com/news/business...any-over-guns/

    Looks like no more Camelback, Gyro or Bell at REI for a while. The funny thing about boycotts like this is how few independent brands there actually are in the outdoor industry. A huge portion of the brands are just subsidiaries of larger investment firms. If REI started digging into all of their suppliers I would bet they would find a lot worse connections than ammunition sellers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    https://www.sltrib.com/news/business...any-over-guns/

    Looks like no more Camelback, Gyro or Bell at REI for a while. The funny thing about boycotts like this is how few independent brands there actually are in the outdoor industry. A huge portion of the brands are just subsidiaries of larger investment firms. If REI started digging into all of their suppliers I would bet they would find a lot worse connections than ammunition sellers.
    REI needs to understand that boycott's work both ways and that many of their customer base are gun supporters and very well may boycott them in return. I'll start. I won't be buying anything from REI.
    Are we there yet?

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