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    What to expect when VA implements red flag laws.


    November 24, 2019
    WhiskeyWarrior556 falls victim to red flag laws
    By Taylor Day
    On Friday, police showed up to a young man’s workplace and tried to arrest him over social media posts reported to them by an old army buddy of the 28-year-old Afghanistan veteran. This man, known as Alex and popular on Instagram under the handle of WhiskeyWarrior556, slipped out of the back door, hurried home to check on his family where he found out police had already forced themselves into his home and confiscated his legal firearms after threatening his wife with calling child protective services to remove her newborn child. Alex then barricaded himself inside his own attic, unarmed. Law enforcement officers followed him, blocked off the road to all traffic and a seven-hour standoff began.


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    From WhiskeyWarrior556 Instagram story during standoff.


    When it was over, the Putnam County Sheriffs, SWAT team and local police, armed with their own automatic rifles with 30 round magazines, arrested Alex for possessing a “high capacity magazine” for his legal AR-15, “high capacity magazines” are defined as any magazine that can hold more than seven rounds. Although a plastic box that holds 30 cartridges at one time are standard for this type of firearm, some lawmakers somewhere else believed they knew better and forced that decision upon this American war veteran.


    Alex updated his followers on Instagram with video and commentary, also posting screenshots of his SMS conversation with police negotiators. Friends who were in contact with him also shared their conversations via social media. Alex told one friend that the man who called in the red flag law, lied to police by telling them that Alex suffered from PTSD. Putnam County Sheriffs reiterated this, claiming that this was a mental health issue, although offered no evidence of such an allegation. A statement from Police Chief Michael Cazzari of local Carmel Police made this statement:


    "This is a person in crisis, having mental illness, having issues and he didn't need the people on social media telling him that his rights are being violated. He needed help. Medical help."


    Because armored vehicles and total barricades are needed when someone just needs “medical help.” Perhaps the police understood that illegally confiscating someone’s property might lead to violence.


    Putnam County armored SWAT vehicle at scene of standoff, Putnam Drive, Mahopac, at 8:30 p.m.


    WhiskeyWarrior556 finally gave in when police threatened once again to take his infant daughter from his and his wife’s custody and according to police, he was peacefully detained. Though charged with owning the “high capacity magazine,” no charges have been filed as a result of the standoff.


    What transpired on Saturday was exactly what advocates of red flag laws have asked for. A militarized police force, ignoring due process completely, confiscated the property and the civil rights of a U.S. citizen because of nothing more than the opinion of an associate.


    If the current legal landscape allows for citizens to have their Second Amendment rights stripped from them without any legal opportunity to dissent, what are the next rights to be taken? After all, our rights to speech or religion, or even due process itself, have no obligation to be respected by the government without the right to bear arms.


    Every gun law, including the ones you agree with, is an infringement on our constitutional rights.

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    Show me one mass shooting where the shooter bought the weapon of choice using a credit card.


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    https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/v...gun-purchases/

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    I'm getting a feeling that Virginia gun control might not go off as planned.

    Many sanctuary counties already, a lot of defiance.
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    New numbers show that Americans own almost 18 million AR-15s and other modern sporting rifles

    The National Shooting Sports Foundation — the trade association for the firearms industry — put out a numbers report on Wednesday indicating that 17.74 million modern sporting rifles are currently privately owned in the United States. Furthermore, the report found that a 54 percent majority of all rifles produced in 2017 were modern sporting rifles.
    The NSSF's website explains that the term "modern sporting rifle" refers to "today's very popular semiautomatic rifle designs, including the AR-15 and its offspring" which have been legally sold for civilian use since the 1960s.

    The National Shooting Sports Foundation — the trade association for the firearms industry — put out a numbers report on Wednesday indicating that 17.74 million modern sporting rifles are currently privately owned in the United States. Furthermore, the report found that a 54 percent majority of all rifles produced in 2017 were modern sporting rifles. The NSSF's website explains that the term "modern sporting rifle" refers to "today's very popular semiautomatic rifle designs, including the AR-15 and its offspring" which have been legally sold for civilian use since the 1960s.


    The National Shooting Sports Foundation — the trade association for the firearms industry — put out a numbers report on Wednesday indicating that 17.74 million modern sporting rifles are currently privately owned in the United States. Furthermore, the report found that a 54 percent majority of all rifles produced in 2017 were modern sporting rifles. The NSSF's website explains that the term "modern sporting rifle" refers to "today's very popular semiautomatic rifle designs, including the AR-15 and its offspring" which have been legally sold for civilian use since the 1960s.


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    Heard on the news today (ABC) that 25 million applications for gun purchases (background checks) occurred in just one month...this past November.

    That's a hell of a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    I'm getting a feeling that Virginia gun control might not go off as planned.

    Many sanctuary counties already, a lot of defiance.
    Virginia sheriff promises to “deputize thousands” if necessary to protect their “right to own firearms”


    “The right to bear arms—some believe that the Second Amendment gives us that right, when in fact it’s a God-given right. If you don’t believe in God, it’s a law of nature that every creature can defend their lives from threats,” Jenkins said.
    “If the legislature decides to restrict certain weapons [in a way] I feel harms our community, I will swear in thousands of auxiliary deputies in Culpeper,” Jenkins said. “There’s no limit to the number of people I can swear in.” The sheriff added, “Personally, I don’t think some of the bills that are proposed will pass, I don’t think we’re that far left in Virginia.”


    https://nationalistreview.net/2019/1...-own-firearms/
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    https://www.wric.com/news/virginia-n...hatsoever/amp/

    AG Herring on 2nd Amendment sanctuary resolutions: ‘No legal effect whatsoever’



    “These resolutions have no legal effect whatsoever. It’s really the gun lobby trying to scare a lot of people,” Herring said. “When the General Assembly passes it in the upcoming session, those laws are going to be enforced and they will be followed.”
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    Hey VA AG

    Americans own 423M guns & 8.1B rounds of ammunition, latest data shows

    Using the most recent data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ (ATF’s) Annual Firearms Manufacturing and Export Reports (AFMER) to draw its conclusions, FITA’s report stated there are 422.9 million firearms in civilian possession from 1986 to 2018, along with an estimated 8.1 billion rounds of various firearms calibers and gauges.

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    It's just a good thing nobody owned any firearms before 1986^^^^^^
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    And by doing the math for them, I come up with 19 rounds of ammunition per firearm.






    19 rounds
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    As of last night, this is where Virginia stands

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    Gov. blackface----you may have a problem

    blackface has already threatened to call up the NG
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    Some question if we are on the verge of civil war II. Others argue that we are already in a soft civil war. Is Virginia Dems trying their hardest to give it a swift kick into high gear to erase any doubt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BasinCruiser View Post
    Some question if we are on the verge of civil war II. Others argue that we are already in a soft civil war. Is Virginia Dems trying their hardest to give it a swift kick into high gear to erase any doubt?
    It would seem.

    I'm guessing as Virginia goes, so goes the rest of the country, at this point.

    They're just waiting for the random guy to fire a shot across the bridge.
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