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    BYU Football 2018

    9 decommits and the final was BYU’s only 4 Star, who just committed to Washington.


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  3. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by accadacca View Post
    9 decommits and the final was BYU’s only 4 Star, who just committed to Washington.



    This is BYU football deep in the throes of the death spiral from which they may never return...
    Coup de grâce
    noun
    Koo-duh-GRAHSS

    1 : a deathblow administered to end the suffering of one mortally wounded
    2 : a decisive finishing blow, act, or event







  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post


    This is BYU football deep in the throes of the death spiral from which they may never return...
    I just can't understand how those in control (church leaders) don't see this and understand they need a conference.

    I understand the whole football team is a missionary tool concept, but nobody is attracted or follows a perennial loser.

    What are church leaders seeing that I'm missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    I just can't understand how those in control (church leaders) don't see this and understand they need a conference.

    I understand the whole football team is a missionary tool concept, but nobody is attracted or follows a perennial loser.

    What are church leaders seeing that I'm missing?

    Maybe it's a teaching tool...


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    Coup de grâce
    noun
    Koo-duh-GRAHSS

    1 : a deathblow administered to end the suffering of one mortally wounded
    2 : a decisive finishing blow, act, or event







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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    I just can't understand how those in control (church leaders) don't see this and understand they need a conference.
    They have General Conference twice a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sombeech View Post
    They have General Conference twice a year
    OMG -- you win the internet today, LOL
    Coup de grâce
    noun
    Koo-duh-GRAHSS

    1 : a deathblow administered to end the suffering of one mortally wounded
    2 : a decisive finishing blow, act, or event







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    BYU hires former Utah OC Aaron Roderick as BYU's new passing game coordinator.


    BYU better have a good field goal kicker, cuz they're gonna see a lot of fruitless trips to the red zone.


    https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46225471&ni...otball-coaches
    Coup de grâce
    noun
    Koo-duh-GRAHSS

    1 : a deathblow administered to end the suffering of one mortally wounded
    2 : a decisive finishing blow, act, or event







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    ^^^ I noticed that and couldn't believe it.

    Roderick should be the final nail in Quarterback U's coffin.

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    They don't have many options. Scraping the barrel for leftovers...


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    BYU's 2018 schedule is out:


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    KSL link: https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46245189&ni...-teams-in-2018


    The remarks in the comments section are hilariously scathing. Here's a few of the best:

    "UtahmaninTexas
    BYU fans say the Pac12 is not P5, well if that is true byu only has one P5 school on the schedule next year. But we all know that's not true, Pac12 is P5. And yes Pac12 mediocrity is better than independent obscurity."

    "Mark W.
    Five P-5 level opponents isn't "daunting" by any means. It represents about half the schedule of every single P-5 team in the country. 9 to 10 P-5 games would be a "normal" schedule."

    "
    LittleMan4
    BYU fans like to talk down the PAC 12 and how Utah hasn't gotten to the PAC championship, so I'm really happy that they'll be playing 4 PAC 12 teams. After they go 0-4 the fans won't have any room to talk. By the way, it looks like you'll have some real thrillers to go watch in Provo. McNeese State, Wahoo!! I could see that one going down to the final minutes of the 4th lol"

    "
    Mark B.
    Not surprised. All five schools are looking for a patsy to pad their final standing. They found it in BYU. Time to get BYU out of the business of sports and back to being a teaching school."

    "mark b.
    That's almost a tough schedule. It's almost a P5 schedule. Almost. Still need 3 more though. To all the cougar fans best of luck. If you want to down play the Pac12 you had better win at least half of them, but I suspect that won't happen. Good luck to both the local teams."
    Coup de grâce
    noun
    Koo-duh-GRAHSS

    1 : a deathblow administered to end the suffering of one mortally wounded
    2 : a decisive finishing blow, act, or event







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    They’ll be lucky to end at .500 and reach a bowl game. Mediocrity and obscurity continues in the independent experiment. Wandering in the wilderness...


  15. #12
    Holmoe is delusional...

    —-

    Holmoe says BYU independence is sustainable when three years ago Bronco said it was not

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...t-was-not.html


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    Independence sucks...

    /End Discussion

  17. #14
    Another blow to BYU football:




    Patrick Kinahan: Star LDS QB not interested in signing with BYU

    By Patrick Kinahan, KSL.com Contributor | Posted Jan 31st, 2018 @ 10:22am


    SALT LAKE CITY — The highly touted prospect, a strong-armed quarterback who is a member of the LDS Church, has everything BYU needs to bolster a sagging football program.

    Yet, one week before national signing day, the best uncommitted high school quarterback is not expected to sign with his church-sponsored school. Tanner McKee, the prized recruit from Southern California, has not included BYU among his final five choices, according to Bleacher Report.
    In the messy world of recruiting, finishing in second place counts as much as fifth or 50th. BYU’s basketball program knows this fact, being in contention for high-end talent before losing out to Duke for the likes of Chris Burgess, Jabari Parker and Frank Jackson. But for a program that desperately needs to regain traction after a miserable 4-9 season, it is a blow to not make McKee’s final five.

    The era of cleaning up most of the LDS talent apparently is long gone. As an example, for a long time, Utah didn’t expend much effort recruiting Utah County, but now the program has no qualms about mining BYU’s backyard. "Back in the day, BYU didn’t have to recruit very hard to get a player — especially if you’re talking about a missionary (who) is a member of the church,” former Utah coach Ron McBride said on 97.5-FM and 1280-AM The Zone. “Basically, the recruiting was already done. And plus, they had a national name. BYU was known across the country.” The Cougars need an infusion of talent, particularly with all the quarterback struggles last season. Even though McKee is planning to serve a church mission before enrolling, thereby delaying his college career for two years, BYU could have gained recruiting momentum if he would have committed to Kalani Sitake’s program.

    Instead, as Bleacher Report has reported, McKee will pledge to play for Washington, Alabama, Stanford, Texas or Texas A&M. It is understandable to a recruit from California to consider two great Pac-12 teams and the nation’s best program, but BYU should make the cut above the two Texas schools.
    As it stands, BYU’s football staff is trying to strengthen its relationship with the quarterback and his family. Much can change in the two years McKee is expected to be away from football on his mission. “There’s a different story for every recruit,” former BYU basketball coach Steve Cleveland said on the DJ and PK morning show. “BYU is not always going to be the perfect fit, even as a member of the church.” Yeah, but that’s the problem, McKee appeared to be the perfect fit. Here’s a kid who wouldn’t break the Sabbath to throw at The Opening, the Elite 11 camp’s biggest recruiting event of the year. His father told Bleacher Report that he probably would have participated on the Sunday, but his son “didn’t even blink an eye about not playing.” Going back several years, BYU has lost big-time talent to other programs in basketball and football. On both sides of the recruiting game, many college programs and LDS athletes have become more sophisticated, meaning BYU is no longer the automatic destination.

    Understandably, Utah has benefitted greatly from recruiting LDS athletes in all sports. Stanford, among most Pac-12 programs, has made it a priority to sign LDS recruits.
    “There’s a lot of choices,” Cleveland said. “Even for LDS student-athletes, BYU is not the end-all for them, and we’ve seen that. I don’t think that people from BYU or members of the church should be offended by that, and certainly not the football coaches.” This is true — with one caveat.
    Historically, given an illustrious tradition at the position, BYU does not often fail to secure top-ranked quarterbacks. While they may not match the hype — as was the case with Ben Olson, Jake Heaps and to-date Tanner Mangum — BYU usually attracts the best LDS quarterbacks. “I would put up BYU against anyone as a wonderful place to come to go to school, to represent their family and faith, to play sports at the highest level,” said former BYU tight end and current athletic administrator Chad Lewis.

    Apparently, McKee’s interest in BYU dropped after Sitake fired offensive coordinator Ty Detmer. To be fair, new coordinator Jeff Grimes and his staff of new assistant coaches didn't have enough time to develop a strong relationship with McKee, as they are now doing with Jacob Conover, a star quarterback in Arizona who is also LDS in the Class of 2019. McKee understands the transient nature of the coaching profession, telling Bleacher Report: “Coaches are huge, but they bounce around. Even college programs, in general, are up and down. You have to judge it all together — the program, the coaches and players — to make a decision, and you have to envision being there for four years.”

    For now, anyway, McKee doesn’t see himself being at BYU.


    https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46250280&nid=294





    Coup de grâce
    noun
    Koo-duh-GRAHSS

    1 : a deathblow administered to end the suffering of one mortally wounded
    2 : a decisive finishing blow, act, or event







  18. #15
    "Built Not Born" is the motto coined to save BYU football from obscurity.

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...offseason.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    "Built Not Born" is the motto coined to save BYU football from obscurity.

    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...offseason.html
    I think the one thing they’ve already achieved is obscurity.


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    BYU Football 2018

    BYU looking to decide on a starting QB within first 2 weeks of fall camp



    Senior Tanner Mangum, junior Beau Hoge, sophomore Joe Critchlow and freshman Zach Wilson are among those who are vying for the job.

    Best comment:



    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/...fall-camp.html


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  22. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by accadacca View Post
    I think the one thing they’ve already achieved is obscurity.
    I respectfully disagree (shocking, I know). BYU still is a national brand with a great following across the planet. BYU travels as well as any team and better than the vast majority of teams.
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  23. #19
    So exactly how old is Tanner Mangum? I just saw him on the local news and he looked to be at least 40. It probably didn't help that he is sporting a 70's porn-stache.

  24. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    So exactly how old is Tanner Mangum? I just saw him on the local news and he looked to be at least 40. It probably didn't help that he is sporting a 70's porn-stache.
    39 maybe but not 40.
    Life is Good

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