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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    Just a heads up...

    When it's my turn to be president you're probably going to hear some shit that makes you say "WTF is wrong with that boy?"

    I'm just here to tell you right now that it's probably all true.
    Were you intimate with approximately 50 very attractive females, including a gorgeous blonde who you made passionate love with in a hayloft? What about a drop dead redhead from Cleveland?

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  3. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    Were you intimate with approximately 50 very attractive females, including a gorgeous blonde who you made passionate love with in a hayloft? What about a drop dead redhead from Cleveland?
    Dude... I spent the first 10 years of my adult life as a professional motorcycle racer, to top that off I spent the next 10 racing cars professionally... suffice it to say I have pit lizard stories that would make a porn star blush....

    Ahh... sometimes I sure do miss the good old days :-)

    Just for giggles....


  4. #63
    This isn't to anyone on particular, but it is no mystery why there are almost no women left on Bogley.
    Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.

  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    This isn't to anyone on particular, but it is no mystery why there are almost no women left on Bogley.
    For what it is worth, my post was a joke in reference to the Ohio candidate for governor who had a big post bragging about all the women he bedded over the years. His photo made me doubt some of his exploits though.

    Iceaxe, I always thought pit and lot lizards were pros. Don't tell me you had to pay???

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  7. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by uintafly View Post
    Iceaxe, I always thought pit and lot lizards were pros. Don't tell me you had to pay???
    Pit Lizards are racings version of a rock star groupie, they are also known as helmet polishers. The name comes from the fact that most pits are surrounded by fencing and some of the women spend so much time hanging over the fence you can see the fence imprint on their bellies :-) I'm sure you can figure the helmet polisher out on your own ;-)

    My experience has been that in most endeavors where there are winners and losers there a groupies.... The groupies that chase professional athlete's in every professional sport I can think of are as numerous and devout as those who chase rock stars. And don't think it's a one way street, as I know several professional and Olympic women athletes and they have their own devout following of men, although in most case the women don't take the same advantage that the men do, or at least not in the quantity.

    Their are also women who chase money and power, and I think some of this current fallout in the political and entertainment industry is a result of that. Because lets look at things realistically. When a chick walks into your office and shuts the door you don't just whip out your dick unless that move has proven successful in the past. It's funny but if you read the accusations against Bill Clinton dropping his pants and whipping out his dick was his go to move, which now it appears is the go to move of many of those in power.

    Anyhoo.... that's my 2 cents. YMMV


  8. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    This isn't to anyone on particular, but it is no mystery why there are almost no women left on Bogley.
    That's cute the way you think having more women around would improve the place. If women start hanging around the Bogley corporate office that just means I can't walk around in my underwear, scratching my ass, eating Cheetos and drinking beer whenever I like. If women start showing up I'll have to shower every day, start wearing pants, and learn some manners. Worst of all I'd have to start caring about not hurting someones feelings....

    If I want to talk to women I'll just hang with my wife and all her female friends when they watch chick flicks, while painting their nails and drinking female drinks.

    Now my Nigerian lawyer has advised me to say no more, I paid him a very large retainer for such advise.


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  10. #67
    That's cute the way you think having more women around would improve the place.
    Women usually make things better. Sure, there are some exceptions such as vampire movies; but yes, it would be nice to have more women around.
    Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.

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  14. #69
    Quote Originally Posted by hank moon View Post
    "One of my longstanding gripes is how when conservatives do something bad, it’s proof of the inherent badness of conservatives and conservatism. But when liberals do something bad, it is immediately turned into an indictment of America itself. Joe McCarthy’s excesses were a window into the nature of conservatism, according to historians, intellectuals, and journalists. But when liberals — Attorney General Palmer, Woodrow Wilson, et al. — did far worse, the villain was America itself. When conservatives are racist, it is because they are conservatives. When liberals are racist it is because racism is an “American sin.” In other words, liberalism is never wrong. I could go on at length about this."

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...sment-coverage
    I read this excerpt and thought, "What the hell? This is completely backwards...it's a denial of reality"

    But after reading the entire article, it's actually mocking the notion. Pretty good piece...it's interesting that you lifted that bit to quote, as I almost ignored the link.

    But I thought..."Nah, Hank doesn't live in la-la land, I've got to check it out".
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  15. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post
    Women usually make things better. Sure, there are some exceptions such as vampire movies; but yes, it would be nice to have more women around.
    To me, Bogley is like a bunch of people hanging around a campfire, shooting the bull.

    When the boys start getting a bit lewd, rude and crude the women head for the tents...some of the guys, too. I'm one of those that'll hang out 'till 2 in the morning. Looks like you are, too.

    I personally don't think that the dominant male presence on this site is straight up because of the bad boys...that late night campfire has always been a tough place for girls to dive into. Probably was the same back in the day with the cavemen.
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    Am I suspended in Gaffa?

  16. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    To me, Bogley is like a bunch of people hanging around a campfire, shooting the bull.

    When the boys start getting a bit lewd, rude and crude the women head for the tents...some of the guys, too. I'm one of those that'll hang out 'till 2 in the morning. Looks like you are, too.

    I personally don't think that the dominant male presence on this site is straight up because of the bad boys...that late night campfire has always been a tough place for girls to dive into. Probably was the same back in the day with the cavemen.
    Although men have always been a majority at Bogley, there used to be several women who used to post regularly. Other than an occasional post from one of them, they are all gone. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least five of them (I'm sure there are more though) who used to be very common posters here and there were several other occasional female posters.

    As far as people leaving, it isn't because people are getting their feelings hurt; it is because most of what is posted on Bogley is garbage and there isn't as much useful information posted anymore. The general sub forum is the most popular sub-forum while the others are mostly dead. Take a look at the number of postings in each sub forum to confirm this. Even the canyoneering forum is nearly dead with only a handful of people regularly posting.

    Of course people looking for useful information can just ignore the general sub forum and go straight to the other ones, but if the information there is lacking, many people lose interest.
    Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.

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  18. #72
    Scott P
    "As far as people leaving, it isn't because people are etting their feelings hurt; it is because most of what is posted on Bogley is garbage and there isn't as much useful information posted anymore........, but if the information there is lacking, many people lose interest."

    I couldn't agree more..... lack of information and loss of interest hits it right on the head.

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  20. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by windminstrel View Post
    Scott P
    "As far as people leaving, it isn't because people are etting their feelings hurt; it is because most of what is posted on Bogley is garbage and there isn't as much useful information posted anymore........, but if the information there is lacking, many people lose interest."

    I couldn't agree more..... lack of information and loss of interest hits it right on the head.
    Well sir, that officially makes you part of the solution. I for one enjoy all of your amazing posts, and I'm sure others do also.
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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  22. #74
    ^^Right here^^

    I get it too, I've got so many potential Trip Reports and Videos to post that I haven't gotten around to. I swear I'm out somewhere every week, getting photos or video of something outside, but I've been terrible at posting this year. Maybe that's why some people think I hate the outdoors

    But for those of us who have content to share, and choose not to share it here on Bogley, and then ask why the forum activity is slow one week... we've just answered our question.

    The thing is, since 2004, the same question has been asked that gets asked on most forums about the membership, activity, quality of posts, if it's slowing down, things like that. The truth is, we've seen the usual ups and downs as always, and we plan on being here for 13 more years too.


  23. #75
    It's pretty easy to influence and power a sub forum on Bogley. All you have to do is start providing content. One or two people powering a sub forum on Bogley normally provides a huge increase in activity in that sub forum. Over the years different forums have increased and decreased in popularity, and the increase is always someone powering that particular forum with content. And the decrease comes when that person moves on to other interests, often not because of Bogley, but because of life (family, marriage, kids, work).

    I'm willing to bet 90% of us regulars hang out here just for entertainment when they're bored, or at least that's what I do.

    By the way.... How do you like my new race car?




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  26. #77
    I could post lots of trip reports, too. But only do so when it's something that I think is unique...my trip to Big Bend, for example. I'll be kayaking in Baja in January, so I'll put one up for that. Everything else is standard hiking, biking, etc...

    Like some of you guys have said, just because some people (including women) have come and gone doesn't mean there's a "problem" with the site. Lately, it seems that there are about 30 or so guys...and a few gals, that slap down something on a regular basis. Maybe 15 or so that are in here weekly.

    I think that's fine...would it be "better" if those numbers were doubled or more?

    I like this site. I come here because I love the desert and all the fun I have in it and it's interesting to me to "hang" with others that get the same thrill. I have absolutely no concern for "proper behavior" by anyone, including myself...Besides, what would it take to draw more women around here? Anybody got an answer for that aside from banning Shane and all the hot chicks?

    Remember Phillip? That guy DEMANDED that some around here behave in a way that was acceptable to HIM...and he blew himself up when they wouldn't go along with the program. Should everyone on the site have caved in to his demands? I think not.
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  27. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott P View Post

    most of what is posted on Bogley is garbage .
    Well, says you.

    Remember Scott...one man's trash is another man's treasure.
    Suddenly my feet are feet of mud
    It all goes slo-mo
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  28. #79
    The thing is, since 2004, the same question has been asked that gets asked on most forums about the membership, activity, quality of posts, if it's slowing down, things like that. The truth is, we've seen the usual ups and downs as always, and we plan on being here for 13 more years too.
    Yes, I believe Bogley will still be here in 13 years. It will probably be the same people here having the same conversations over and over again.

    That doesn't change the fact that the usefulness (from an outdoor standpoint) and nature of the site is changing though. It happens to a lot of websites, many of which are/were a lot worse than Bogley. 14erworld was a prime example, but I assume people here aren't familiar with that one.

    "Entertainment" or trolling post are definitely on the increase here, while useful outdoor post have decreased significantly. It's not hard to browse through the subforums and see that this is true.
    Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.

  29. #80
    Perhaps everything that relates to social commentary, politics or water cooler talk should be immediately moved back down to the basement where it used to be?

    I was gone from here for a couple years and when I came back I'd noticed that had changed...the basement and general discussion kinda blended together. Perhaps potential new members (and lots of existing ones) are turned off by that?

    Matt Lauer, over time, turned into an alpha male tyrant. That dude went full on Caligula. Perhaps the same thing has happened here...some of us have taken over the place and made it objectionable.

    Perhaps some of us should take a break from the site and see if things improve?

    See Scott, I don't disagree with ya, I'd just like to see some kind of proposed solution. Maybe a poll?

    "Are there certain members around here that ruin it for you...and if so, who are they?"

    Y'know...a nice, civil witch hunt. Get rid of the predators.
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