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11-30-2017, 09:30 AM #21SALT LAKE CITY — President Donald Trump intends to reduce the size of the Bears Ears National Monument by 85 percent and the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument by half, according to a report by the Washington Post Thursday.
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11-30-2017 09:30 AM # ADS
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11-30-2017, 09:47 AM #22
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11-30-2017, 09:53 AM #23
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11-30-2017, 10:08 AM #24
Oh DAMN, now one of Pocahontas' (the real one) descendants comes out and says if she were alive today, she'd be very proud of Trump!
Ouch ouch make it stop
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12-02-2017, 07:12 PM #25
During a prayer, San Juan County administrator Kelly Pehrson said, "Father, we're grateful for thy hand touching the president's and having him make the right decision for our county."
Oh...heavenly Father...
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12-02-2017, 09:13 PM #26
FWIW - 18 times in history a president has shrunk a National Monument so this is nothing new and appears to be well within the presidents power. However it has been over 50 years since a president has used such powers.
Monday should be interesting...
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12-03-2017, 08:35 AM #27
Queue the immediate lawsuit which will drag on for years.....
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12-03-2017, 09:39 AM #28
Maybe... or it could move rather quickly if the law clearly states who has the authority. Also as I stated above there is pressidense in this move which will carry a large amount of weight in a US court.
I have no doubt this will be in the court system for many years, the key will be as to who manages the land and under what conditions after the announcement while the lawsuits are unravelled.
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12-03-2017, 07:19 PM #29
Trump will visit Utah to change Bears Ears and Grand Staircase national monuments
SALT LAKE CITY (KUTV) —
President Donald Trump will visit Utah Monday where he is expected to speak at the Utah State Capitol.
There he is expected to announce the reduction of the Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments and deliver other remarks at 12:30 p.m.
It was previously announced that Trump would also visit with leaders of the Church of Jesus-Christ of Latter-day Saints. The meeting was confirmed by Matt Whitlock, a spokesman for Sen. Orrin Hatch, and who said Hatch invited Trump to meet with church leaders.
Transportation in Salt Lake City will be blocked in some places and delayed after his arrival in Utah on Air Force One.
The Utah Transit Authority alerted media and riders that those planning to utilize bus, TRAX, FrontRunner and street car systems can expect possible brief delays during Trump's visit. Downtown buses may be asked to stop and wait at intersections while trains may be forced to hold their positions prior to reaching rail crossings along the president's motorcade routes.
The visit is the first for Trump since he became president. There are no events scheduled for the public to see or meet the president.
The Sierra Club is organizing a protest on Monday morning on the sidewalks south of the State Capitol on 300 North between Columbus and East Capitol Boulevard.
The club requests protesters to say inside the approved protest zone on the south end of the Capitol grounds. The rally organizers said they would be in place by 10:45 a.m. to ensure Trump sees them as he enters the Capitol. They request those attending to bring their own signs.
It is not clear how long Trump will stay in Salt Lake City, how long his remarks will last or how long he will meet with LDS leaders or if there are other items on his itinerary.
Snow is expected to hit the Wasatch Front ahead of the visit, perhaps making Monday morning's commute an especially slow one.
http://kutv.com/news/local/salt-lake...t-trumps-visit
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12-04-2017, 08:18 AM #30
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12-04-2017, 11:47 AM #31
OK, Trump just signed it. How soon can I expect the "Trail Closed" sign at the Wahweap Hoodoos?
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12-04-2017, 11:49 AM #32
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12-04-2017, 01:17 PM #33
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12-04-2017, 02:25 PM #34
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12-04-2017, 04:50 PM #35
Snippets from the following article: https://www.ksl.com/?sid=46210871&ni...utah-monuments
"Trump's unprecedented, illegal action is a brutal blow to our public lands, an affront to Native Americans and a disgrace to the presidency," Spivak said. "He wants to hand over these lands to private industry to mine, frack, bulldoze and clear-cut until there's nothing left for our children and grandchildren."
"A statement from the Wilderness Society, a nonprofit land conservation group, voiced fears that loss of monument protections opens the area up for drilling and mining."
"Today, President Trump is sacrificing tribal heritage, paleontological discoveries, and the small-business owners who drive America's outdoor economy, all in the name of coal, oil and uranium."
OK, I've said this before numerous times, and I'm going to repeat myself again. These above quotes are founded on outright lies. Using scare tactics to sway an impressionable (and ignorant) audience. They persistently claim that mining companies are lining up to mine and drill and clear cut the Bears Ears when that is in fact a complete fallacy. There is no coal nor oil in the Bears Ears, and what little uranium there might be has been mined out years ago.
Nobody wants to mine nor drill there. Nobody. So please stop making those ridiculous claims. We are men of action...lies do not become us.It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.
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12-04-2017, 05:06 PM #36
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12-04-2017, 05:09 PM #37"Trump's unprecedented, illegal action is a brutal blow to our public lands, an affront to Native Americans and a disgrace to the presidency," Spivak said. "He wants to hand over these lands to private industry to mine, frack, bulldoze and clear-cut until there's nothing left for our children and grandchildren."
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12-04-2017, 07:29 PM #38
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12-04-2017, 08:36 PM #39
is that why there is a 2015 San Juan Energy Plan that overlaps BENM?
https://le.utah.gov/~2015/bills/static/HB0393.html
Map
http://sanjuancounty.org/sjc-content...rgy%20Zone.pdf
https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title63J/C...15032320150323
https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title63J/C...2320150323.pdf
BENM overlaps two exploratory oil and gas fields (hatch point and three mile).
Kirkwood is operating very close to the NE boundary of the monument.
from what i've read industry has nominated over 100,000 acres within the boundary or within 1 mile of the boundary of BENM since 2013 for lease sales (shown in red below). 9 are proposed by Kirkwood
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next auction including lands near BENM is in march 2018.
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12-04-2017, 09:13 PM #40
most were relatively small by comparison (and i believe none were challenged in court). cutting by ~1.1 million and ~0.9 million, respectively, is massive.
although zinke cites wilson's cutting of mt olympus nat'l mon. down 300,000+ from teddy roosevelt's 600,000+ acres, as a result of FDR and truman, it's now a 922,000+ acre nat'l park.
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