Trump will visit Utah to change Bears Ears and Grand Staircase national monuments

[Iceaxe]

99.99% of the time they extinguish a coal seam fire by covering it with dirt. The problem is 50 years later they uncover the seam and the minute it hits oxygen it will reignite.

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[Sombeech]

Federal agency issues proposals for downsized Utah monuments

Some of these quotes:
saying its preference for one of the sites would be the "least restrictive to energy and mining development."

I want to know, who actually said this, and what was the phrase said, exactly? Irresponsible article authors write this crap up and they know it isn't true, and this is what the public grabs hold of.

There is no way to walk this back. And it's a lie.

[rockgremlin]

Some of these quotes:
saying its preference for one of the sites would be the "least restrictive to energy and mining development."

I want to know, who actually said this, and what was the phrase said, exactly? Irresponsible article authors write this crap up and they know it isn't true, and this is what the public grabs hold of.

There is no way to walk this back. And it's a lie.

Yup. Unfortunately we live in a wondrous age where we have access to vast, almost limitless knowledge. But most folks are too lazy to seek the truth -- much easier to believe the tripe that is passed off as "news," especially when said news has bold flashy headlines that can bolster one's political or ideological leanings.

Sad...

[twotimer]

I don't think things like this are a real problem. It's just red meat for those that crave it.

November will show us how many truly have pinwheels spinning in their eyes.

[Iceaxe]

November will show us how many truly have pinwheels spinning in their eyes.

Midterms have a habit of being over represented by the extreme ends of the spectrum. The middle has a bad habit of being lazy and skipping the midterms.

[stefan]

Surprised by plan from his own BLM to unload land
inside Utah’s former Grand Staircase monument,
Interior boss cancels sale

The Interior Department has canceled a proposal from the Bureau of Land Management that would have allowed the sale of more than 1,600 acres inside the previous boundaries of southern Utah’s Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument.

The department’s deputy secretary, David Bernhardt, sent a memo to BLM officials Friday, reversing part of a management plan for the 900,000 acres that President Donald Trump removed from monument status in December.

Top Interior officials say they were caught off guard by the BLM proposal.

Secretary Ryan Zinke, a former Montana congressman who has insisted that he opposes selling off public lands, read about the management plan in the news media.

“The secretary did not see the proposal before it went out and was not happy about it,” a senior Interior Department official said Friday afternoon.

The proposed management plan would allow large swaths of the former monument to be open to mining and drilling, and the preferred alternative identified 16 parcels that could be sold to private developers.

Among these parcels was one adjoining ranch property held by Utah lawmaker Mike Noel, a vocal leader in the campaign to reduce and block national monuments.

Noel, who handled real estate transactions for the BLM during his 22-year tenure with the agency, said he never asked the BLM to make that acreage available and that he is not interested in buying more property in Johnson Canyon, east of Kanab, where he holds extensive land and water rights.

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rest of article
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics...ior-secretary/

[stefan]

Some of these quotes:
saying its preference for one of the sites would be the "least restrictive to energy and mining development."

I want to know, who actually said this, and what was the phrase said, exactly? Irresponsible article authors write this crap up and they know it isn't true, and this is what the public grabs hold of.

There is no way to walk this back. And it's a lie.

hey 'beech, you sound like the type to shoot first and ask questions later. friendly advice: maybe take some time to look into something before you shoot your mouth off?

the BLM wrote it in their executive summary (see image). Alternative D is the BLM's preferred management option.



which you can find in this pdf

https://eplanning.blm.gov/epl-front-...mary-508_r.pdf

btw, when journalists (particularly the associated press) put something in quotes, you can assume they can back it up. your skepticism seems to get the better of you

[Sombeech]

btw, when journalists (particularly the associated press) put something in quotes, you can assume they can back it up.

Like the "Trump peeing in the hotel room" and the "Trump said the N word 10 years ago" articles?

Still looking for those pieces to show up, but unfortunately those lies have ran 3 times around the world, without being backed up.

[rockgremlin]

rest of article
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics...ior-secretary/

Hmmm...I wonder if the parcels will be back up for sale again. Just seems odd that they would be cancelled all of a sudden.

They ought to just leave that area unavailable to development since promoting drilling or mining in those areas just generates negative press and it seems there's not enough money to make it worth it.

[Iceaxe]

btw, when journalists (particularly the associated press) put something in quotes, you can assume they can back it up.

If only that were true, but unfortunately in this day and age it's not and often quotes are attributed to "unnamed sources". Which has led to #FakeNews. Anyone that takes for gospel what the press says, including the AP, is an idiot.

And the press has no one to blame for their loss of integrity but themselves. We reap what we sow.

According to a recent article in Forbes, reporters are near the bottom when it comes to trusted professions, right next door to lawyer and politician.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmc...s-infographic/

[stefan]

saying its preference for one of the sites would be the "least restrictive to energy and mining development."

I want to know, who actually said this, and what was the phrase said, exactly? Irresponsible article authors write this crap up and they know it isn't true, and this is what the public grabs hold of.

There is no way to walk this back. And it's a lie.

btw, when journalists (particularly the associated press) put something in quotes, you can assume they can back it up.

If only that were true, but unfortunately in this day and age it's not and often quotes are attributed to "unnamed sources". Which has led to #FakeNews. Anyone that takes for gospel what the press says, including the AP, is an idiot.

ice, irrespective of whether the source is a named or unnamed person or document, whenever a journalist is providing a direct quote in an article they should always be able to backup the attribution of the direct quote to a specific person or a document.

[stefan]

With BLM headquarters likely to go West, Rep. Rob Bishop promotes Ogden as Utah's best host

One thing is certain under the major reorganization Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has in mind for the sprawling federal department he oversees: The Bureau of Land Management headquarters will move West, where nearly all the nation’s public land is concentrated.

Salt Lake City has been viewed as a logical host city, but now an up-and-coming city 40 miles to the north has emerged as a possible contender.
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The exchange occurred at a roundtable hosted by House Natural Resources Committee Chairman Rob Bishop, whose congressional district includes Ogden. Combs laid out Zinke’s vision for making the BLM and other Interior agencies more responsive to Western communities associated with public lands.

“The goal is to reorganize by [distributing] power out … to where the problems are, where the facts are, the issues are on the ground,” Combs said. “The secretary wants all decision-making to be driven locally, so you see county commissioners, mayors and governors. You are at the forefront of everything that happens in your county, city and state.”
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With Herbert inviting the BLM to put its headquarters in Utah, it appears state leaders no longer prioritize taking title to the public lands, a move that would evict the BLM from the state. Instead, leaders are embracing a less drastic goal of securing greater authority over how the BLM manages 23 million acres in Utah.

“This has potential to make Interior more efficient and more responsive to reflect more precisely what the people who live next to these public lands want to see take place,” Herbert said. “Secondly, it gives a chance to change the culture of the department.”

On paper, Salt Lake City would appear to be a more viable candidate than Ogden. The BLM’s state office is already in Utah’s capital city, which also sits at the junction of the Intermountain West’s two biggest freeways. And, Herbert noted, Salt Lake City has a major airport undergoing a $3.6 billion expansion.

But Bishop noted that Ogden has plenty of available federal office space and its own airport. Ogden hosts regional offices of the U.S. Forest Service and the IRS; Hill Air Force Base is nearby.
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link to article
https://www.sltrib.com/news/environment/2018/08/29/blm-ogden-heres-what/

[Iceaxe]

ice, irrespective of whether the source is a named or unnamed person or document, whenever a journalist is providing a direct quote in an article they should always be able to backup the attribution of the direct quote to a specific person or a document.

I totally agree a journalist should be able to back up a direct quote, but unfortunately some of the weaker journalists can't.

Journalists used to have a saying... "If your mother tells you she loves you, check it out." It's sad that is no longer how many journalist operate.

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