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    Scott, not a great list when you start it off with an anti-Trimp, anti-Hillary, Bernie supporter killing 2 people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    You obviously missed the part where I qualified my statement upfront by stating sane and reasonable....

    Or perhaps you're not sane or reasonable?

    But either way you get my drift..
    Sane and reasonable means looking at things objectionably and using evidence to backup your claims.

    Do you have any evidence than the murder by left wing extremists commit for politically motivated murders than the right wind extremists? I have seen none. All evidence I have seen points to the opposite, though I suspect the tide may turn since the leftist extremists "enemy" is in office.

    If you have any evidence that left wing extremists commit more murders than right wing extremists, then please post it or point it out.

    Of course, none of this excuses the other side.

    Scott, not a great list when you start it off with an anti-Trimp, anti-Hillary, Bernie supporter killing 2 people.
    His viewpoints were definitely right wing extremists. Read them yourself. He also assaulted several left wing protesters.

    He was a self proclaimed Bernie, Stein, and Trump supporter, which of course makes no sense. Obviously he was a a guy with issues. According to him, his support of Bernie was only to kill Hillary.

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    Thanks for proving my point with insane left wing rants....


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    There are A-holes and wingnuts of every color, creed, religion, political party, nationality, fanbase, etc. In my experience, the ratio of normal to asshole is pretty static across the board. (with the exception of byu fans, who seem to have a very high % of wingnuts.)

    With that being said, trying to blame this guy on the left or politicians or comedians or anyone is pretty stupid. Unless you want to start claiming every crime committed by some stranger who may have a few of the same beliefs as you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    Thanks for proving my point with insane left wing rants....

    Insane left wing rants? Is that the comeback for admitting that I was right and you have no proof that there have been more attacks from leftists extremists that right extremists? Do you have any evidence?
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    ### BREAKING NEWS ###

    One side thinks the other is wrong, seeks to impose superior wisdom to bring about better world.

    Pols chuckle as divided keep dividing.

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    Napoleon and Hitler were born 129 years apart, they came into power 129 years apart, they declared war on Russia 129 years apart and they were defeated 129 years apart. Hitler was born 128 years ago. The next one will be born next year. Shit, is Melania pregnant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iceaxe View Post
    Napoleon and Hitler were born 129 years apart, they came into power 129 years apart, they declared war on Russia 129 years apart and they were defeated 129 years apart. Hitler was born 128 years ago. The next one will be born next year. Shit, is Melania pregnant?

    What about Mussolini, Polpot and Ghengis Khan?
    It's only "science" if it supports the narrative.

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    Basically liberalism is a willful failure to mature beyond adolescence that can have catastrophic consequences for society.

    moonbattery....

    http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/02/psychiatrist_co.html

    confirmed!! liberalism is a disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian in SLC View Post
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    guess we know what you've been shopping for.

    which five did you get?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    guess we know what you've been shopping for.

    which five did you get?
    Funny....I have a buff I got several years ago from a mountain race. But, haven't shopped onlilne or googled anything like the face masks in the ad.

    Not that I don't spend a bit of time on a few gun forums....

    Ads by google to the right of this post: eBay for an Anschutz model 64 sport trigger. Now that I get!

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    Good article from a local reporter:

    http://www.craigdailypress.com/news/...zing-violence/

    The horrific Wednesday morning shooting targeting Republican members of Congress, and the reactions that followed, proved a steep decline in respect for human life when it comes to politics.

    The GOP team members were at a park baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia, practicing for an annual charity baseball game against Democrats when a gunman — later identified as 66-year-old James T. Hodgkinson of Illinois, an apparent Democratic Socialist who volunteered on Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign — ambushed them, critically wounding House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (La.), two Capitol Police officers, a congressional aide and a lobbyist.

    It was later confirmed that Hodgkinson asked someone whether the players on the field were Republicans or Democrats before pulling out a gun and opening fire.

    In a beautiful moment of solidarity, the opposing Democrat baseball team members, who were also practicing that morning, came together to pray for their Republican colleagues.

    I wish I could say that every reaction across the country showed as much class, but, despite both Republican and Democrat lawmakers' calls for unity, many "Americans" just couldn't stop themselves from making a partisan joke out of a tragedy.

    "If the shooter has a serious health condition then is taking potshots at the GOP house leadership considered self defense?" tweeted writer Malcolm Harris, whose work has been featured in The Washington Post.

    Many others took to Twitter saying that Republican lawmakers deserved the shooting because of their stance on gun control.

    Unfortunately, this isn't the first time America's seen this kind of insensitive response, and the left certainly isn't the only party in history guilty of such cruelty.

    We can't pretend it's a small, insignificant number of Americans behaving this way when popular culture and Hollywood ooze examples of it.

    Recall, for example, Kathy Griffin's viral photo of herself holding the fake severed head of President Trump covered in blood, Madonna's comment about wanting to blow up The White House, Snoop Dogg's video of himself shooting a Trump lookalike and Ted Nugent's comment basically calling for the beheading of members of former President Barack Obama's administration.

    Griffin's rather unimpressive career aside, these people are famous. Politically-charged messages laden with suggestions of violence toward lawmakers reach a wide audience when they come from famous mediums, leaving an influential mark on the culture of a country already sharply divided by politics.

    Celebrities probably feel more comfortable than ever sending such brutal messages because political rhetoric in recent years has shifted from "defeat the opposition" to "do whatever it takes to destroy the opposition." Although I can't say with certainty this rhetoric drove Hodgkinson to carry out the shooting, I think its effects are evident in the vile reactions to his heinous act.

    Lawmakers are increasingly viewed by supporters of their opposing party as symbols of America's potential demise rather than as human beings. At the root of this issue is how Americans internalize political messages intended to scare us against one party or the other and, although many have directed blame at the left's political rhetoric alone, I don't think the origin of this issue can be traced back to the left, the right or a specific individual.

    The GOP baseball practice shooting was an act of domestic terrorism that left several families wondering if their loved ones would live to see another day. No human being should ever celebrate that. Although one party tends to point the finger at the other in times like this, I won't participate in the blame game because it's a viscous cycle offering no real solution.

    "Violence of any kind is unacceptable in our society and I condemn this action in the strongest possible terms," said Sanders in a speech following the shooting. "Real change can only come about through nonviolent action, and anything else runs against our most deeply held American values."

    For once, I agree with Bernie Sanders.

    Pray for America.
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    Hey...if Ted can do it...?

    http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment...-shooting.html

    We'll see if it sticks.

    Good on him, though.

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