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Thread: 18 to 21 can now apply for and receive a concealed carry permit in Utah

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    Oh my!...haven't seen a thread get quite this rude, stupid, defensive and downright mean lately.

    With that said, I think Iceaxe's argument is both persuasive and reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twotimer View Post
    Oh my!...haven't seen a thread get quite this rude, stupid, defensive and downright mean lately.

    With that said, I think Iceaxe's argument is both persuasive and reasonable.
    Not sure what thread you're reading...

    I've not found it any of those things. Shane is welcome to come over for an adult beverage right now if he chooses, guns and all.

    What about Shane's argument to you find persuasive and reasonable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian in SLC View Post
    Not sure what thread you're reading...



    What about Shane's argument to you find persuasive and reasonable?
    I'm reading this one.

    In regards to reasonable...I wouldn't be bothered by an 18 year old with concealed carry.

    The persuasive part goes along with the reasonable bit. But I (obviously?) was wrong in determining the rudeness with words like imbecile and such. It just seemed a bit ugly and unpleasant to read. Carry on...
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    I think Brian in SLC hates guns...


    What do you think, @Sombeech?

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    It's already legal for anyone 18 or older, that can legally possess firearms, to carry a loaded handgun in their vehicle. They can also legally open carry a handgun or any other legal firearm in public. I personally don't see a problem with adding the ability to carry their firearm concealed in a purse or waistband.

    I highly doubt that a young adult would just wake up one day and decide to purchase a handgun and apply for a permit to carry concealed. The ones that will take advantage of this opportunity will most likely have been trained by responsible parents or mentors over many years. Like Iceaxe's daughters.

    Young adults texting and staring at their smart phones while driving makes me a whole lot more nervous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    I think Brian in SLC hates guns...
    Yeah...there's a whole lotta hate in my house right now...ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandstone Addiction View Post

    Young adults texting and staring at their smart phones while driving makes me a whole lot more nervous.
    BINGO! Mix legal pot with that and it's like negotiating an asteroid field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockgremlin View Post
    I think Brian in SLC hates guns...


    What do you think, @Sombeech?
    No, just the bullets

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    It all comes down to this:

    Do you trust people to be free?

    Or--do you require government to tell you you can be free, with stipulations?

    There will always be stipulations but were to draw that thin red line....

    I'll stick with trusting citizens and all the consequences associated with that choice

    vs. the guv. and all the consequences associated with that choice, when it comes to gun issues.

    A government that has no fear of citizens, is a government with total power.

    I prefer that not to happen.

    Some of us have repeated it many times but without the 2nd, there would be no first!!!
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    Freedom has drawbacks for some folks--

    most notably, responsibility and accountability.

    For those who can't handle those principals,Maybe Trump can do his own monument designation for criminals, maybe an island somewhere--maybe long island.

    Eminent domain and with the stroke of a pen, instant pre fab, prison....

    And the progressives could call it an internment camp for the less fortunate.

    I think it's time the East share in the antiquities act.
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    In 1643, there were 13 Indian tribes on long island, that fact alone should help with the use of the antiquities act.

    Maybe those tribes could help in the management of new prison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    Some of us have repeated it many times but without the 2nd, there would be no first!!!
    There appears to be no correlation especially as of late...

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/02/fox-news-...ake-news-rant/

    http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2017/...n-on-protests/

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...-activity.html

    Quote Originally Posted by oldno7 View Post
    For those who can't handle those principals,Maybe Trump can do his own monument designation for criminals, maybe an island somewhere--maybe long island.
    I think that island might be called "Mar-a-lago"....ha ha. Aka the new white house.

    You know, its where those white collar criminals hang out.

    Crazy times.

  18. #33
    Just waiting for Herb's signature.

    Lawmakers approve concealed firearms for 18-year-olds
    http://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=43439012&nid=960

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    From some comments Herb made yesterday I don't think he is going to veto anything that passed.

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