What will reduce Gun Violence in the U.S.?

[Absolute Gravity]

Rob, tell me again how great a gun free Europe is working out for you?

Paris Attacks
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/13/world/paris-shooting/

On a personal level I never worry about being taken hostage or becoming a victim of a mass shooting as I'm always armed. I know.... some of you call that being paranoid, I just call it being prepared.

How does a gun stop bombs?

On a personal level I also never worry about being taken hostage or becoming a victim of a mass shooting and I'm never armed. Cholesterol far more likely to get me.

[Iceaxe]

"We were lying on the floor trying not to get hit. The terrorists shot at us for 10 to 15 minutes, it was a blood bath" is one direct comment from the concert.

Most of the death's were hostages. It's difficult to be a hostage when you can fight back.

Imagine being in a night club, being taken hostage, being led to slaughter, with few means to fight back effectively.

You might kick my ass in the end, but you had better bring five friends and a sack lunch because it's going to be a long day.

[Iceaxe]

Anyone remember this speech?

[oldno7]

^^^^^

And---this has just begun.

[Iceaxe]

I'm afraid your right. The massive news coverage brings out the copycats looking for their 15 minutes of fame.

[oldno7]

so while un armed Europeans are on their knees, waiting to be beheaded, watching their wifes and children brutally raped, one would wonder, if those nasty 50% of Americans, who refuse to be victims, or budge on their 2nd amendment stance, enter the soon to be slaughtered's mind.
I could have saved my family, if only I had a means to defend them.....

This mantra will play out many times and likely in the US as well.

I refuse to give up liberty for the sake of feigned security.(or any security)

Everyone is responsible for their own security--no one else, especially government can procure it.

[oldno7]

As European's begin to be slaughtered en mass--an understanding of 50% of American's gun culture, will make more and more sense.

I believe Eastern European's are figuring this out much faster than their Western neighbors.

[oldno7]

being armed, anywhere does not guarantee survival, but it does offer a chance were one would not exist, without.

[Absolute Gravity]

If it bleeds it leads right?

http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...568#post572568

You guys are the definition of fear.

[oldno7]

Being cognizant of potential for catastrophe in no way equates to fear, in fact, quite the opposite.

[Iceaxe]

Being cognizant of potential for catastrophe in no way equates to fear, in fact, quite the opposite.

^^^THIS^^^

[oldno7]

Baghdad barack has this handled, along with herman--I mean kerry

[accadacca]

[Sombeech]

How does a gun stop bombs?

On a personal level I also never worry about being taken hostage or becoming a victim of a mass shooting and I'm never armed. Cholesterol far more likely to get me.

I admit, I haven't really read up on much involving the attacks in Paris. Call me cold hearted, but I guess I'm just not that interested right now. Maybe later, who knows.

But I'm curious, if there were bombs, did the "bombers" also carry guns? I assume they did, right? Why would they do that? Why carry guns when you've got bombs?

Then again I am prepared to be corrected, maybe nobody had guns, maybe it was just bombs.

[Iceaxe]

There were suicide bombers that killed people, but the majority of the deaths occurred at a concert where the killers entered with guns and began shooting the concert goers, there were few ways to escape, few places to hide and no practical way to put up a solid defense.... it was like shooting fish in a barrel.

[Iceaxe]

It might be next year, or it might be in 1000 years, but there will come a time when bullets are worth more than gold. Anyone that has ever studied history knows that every civilization eventually falls in a bloody and violent fashion.

[accadacca]

Couple news stories in my feed today:

Black Friday breaks record with 185K gun background checks

At least 14 dead, 144 more wounded in San Bernardino shooting, police chief says

[Brian in SLC]

Anyone that has ever studied history knows that every civilization eventually falls in a bloody and violent fashion.

Geez, and here I thought that if we didn't study history we'd be doomed to repeat it.

Danged if you do, danged if you don't.

Sad day in San Berdoo. Just like mainstream Muslims bear the brunt of the terrorism in their ranks, ditto law abiding gun owners.

It'll become a matter of public safety sooner than later methinks. Ugh.

[accadacca]

I'm watching it live on CNN right now. They've got some suspects and a black SUV covered in bullet holes.

[Sombeech]

I'm watching it live on CNN right now. They've got some suspects and a black SUV covered in bullet holes.