Zion: Behunin - Lost (stuck) rope on last rap 6/18/15

[jmpdelos]

Green/white 9mm 200'er from Tom. I'd love to get it back and to know what it looked like at the anchor. It was clearly just the stein knot at the anchor caught somehow after the stick pulled fine...

Jeff

[ratagonia]

Green/white 9mm 200'er from Tom. I'd love to get it back and to know what it looked like at the anchor. It was clearly just the stein knot at the anchor caught somehow after the stick pulled fine...

Jeff

Which raises the question of why you would Fiddle that particular drop?????

[jman]

Sorry for the stuck rope!

A member stuck their rope on that last rappel a week or two back ago as well. I assumed someone has gone through since then which makes me think if you have tried calling the Zion Visitor Center?

Anyway, I updated the sticky thread with your info.

[Iceaxe]

Which raises the question of why you would Fiddle that particular drop?????

Asked the pied piper of complicating the simple.

[harness man]

Well....... It does seem a reasonable question.
While not (yet) versed in the use of the fiddlestick, I have used macramé knots and 'third rope' sling retrieval to ghost short drops, where appropriate.
All ghosting systems seem to become more difficult to execute when the drop gets longer, and the last rap in Behunin seems like a WILD place to fiddle-stick (fiddle-stuck!).
Need to save weight/money?
Leave the pull cord and buy TWO real ropes (Canyon Fire).
There are also now two rappel devices that work really well on skinny ropes, single or double strand.
Just sayin'

[Brian in SLC]

There are also now two rappel devices that work really well on skinny ropes, single or double strand.

Now? You meant, for over 45 years...

Some fun history...

http://storrick.cnc.net/VerticalDevi...icalHome.shtml

[ratagonia]

Asked the pied piper of complicating the simple.

Even *I* fail to see any reason to Fiddle this particular drop.

T

[taatmk]

By no means a guru at this, but having rapped down that long Behunin crescendo rap, I for one would not do a "ghosting" technique there. Its a long way back up, to know what's happening with your rope pull. We tied two ropes together for that rap and just pulled the correct side when last rapper was down. It all came down fine...

[harness man]

Hey Brian
I LOVE storrick's site!
-No disrespect was intended to the bold inventor/ crazy pioneers who have led us off the cliffs, so to speak.
Perhaps the SQWUREL and CRITR2 will become part of his collection, eventually...

[jmpdelos]

As for why fiddle that drop, practice, consistency with what we'd been doing, and I've generally found it a lot easier to pull and had never before had a problem with it not pulling. Obviously that's no longer the case; live and learn. I also dislike adding to the grooves any time I can avoid it which is another reason I tend to fiddle but that's clearly not an issue with this drop.

On a happy note, I just got the rope back Apparently the next group through did retrieve it but gave it to a friend who took a couple weeks to notice the note before he called me and then another bit before he sent it. So far I haven't heard back on what it looked like at the anchor which is too bad; I'd really like to know. I know if I came upon a stuck rope I'd try to discern how it ended up stuck the way it was and take pics. So far the only rope I've found/returned was obvious in how it got stuck (the standard "caught on the flake" on the last drop of Heaps).

[ratagonia]

Hey Brian
I LOVE storrick's site!
-No disrespect was intended to the bold inventor/ crazy pioneers who have led us off the cliffs, so to speak.
Perhaps the SQWUREL and CRITR2 will become part of his collection, eventually...

Standard procedure is for YOU to donate one to Dr. Storrick.

Tom