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    BLM re-evaluates walk-in permits for The Wave, considers online alternative



    KANAB — Visitor feedback has prompted the Bureau of Land Management to re-evaluate its permit application system for the Wave, and proposed changes could impact local communities.

    Currently, 20 hikers per day can obtain permits for the world-renowned Wave. Ten of the permits are distributed in advance online, while 10 more are distributed each day through a lottery at the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument Visitor Center in Kanab.

    Obtaining a permit can be a tricky feat. The odds of winning a permit online ranged from 4 to 25 percent in 2013 depending on the season, and 50 to 150 people show up to apply for a permit in person on any given day, according to the BLM. The warmer months, with the exception of July, are the busiest for the attraction.

    “Because we have people who come from all over the world, we’ve just had a lot of feedback from all of our users that have asked for us to kind of re-evaluate the permit application process for the lottery to see if there is a way to improve customer service and essentially the efficiency of that system,” said Rachel Carnahan, the public affairs officer from the Arizona Strip District of the BLM.


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    Changes to the permit system are being evaluated as part of a new business plan, according to Carnahan. A draft of the plan, which will describe the proposal in detail, is slated to be published by the BLM in early 2015. One of the proposed options is to implement a system similar to the one used to distribute permits for the Subway in Zion National Park or Half Dome in Yosemite National Park.

    She said it is unclear when a final decision will be made since the BLM is still in the early stages of evaluating the process, but that if a new permit plan were to be adopted, it wouldn’t be implemented any earlier than January 2016. A decision would be made jointly by the BLM’s Arizona Strip Office, Kanab field office and the Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monument.

    A change in the permit system could have a big impact on local communities like Kanab, where the walk-in lottery brings in as many as 150 people per day.
    “We’re going to try to make lemonade out of lemons here, because obviously Kanab… is a small community of about 5,000 people and most of our economy is based on tourism,” said Kane County Office of Tourism director Ken Gotzen-Berg.

    He said Kanab and Page, Arizona, which also benefits from traffic to the Wave, have been working with the BLM to make the system more fair to hikers while at the same time protecting their communities. The BLM has offered to promote other hiking adventures in the area on recreation.gov as part of the plan, according to Gotzen-Berg.

    “These (permit) applicants coming from all over the world want to do a great hike and they were inspired basically because of the photographs of the Wave,” he said. “Well, here in Southern Utah we have so many other similar experiences to the Wave that are just not as well known. We’re going to make a big push to make these other locations as known through images and photography as the Wave, thereby taking the pressure off of the Wave and spreading it out to the other hikes that are less restrictive.”

    Gotzen-Berg said he often visits the Wave lottery and visits with both the winners and losers, who come from all over the world.

    “They would come and book a whole vacation to stay in Kanab and every morning go and do this lottery thing, and they’d lose and hopefully find something else to do in the area, but do (the lottery) again the next morning and the next and the next until they got beat up pretty bad,” he said. “We’re trying to hook them up with other experiences so even if they lose the lottery, they’ll walk away saying, ‘Wow, what a fantastic place.’ ”

    A restriction on the number of people who can visit the Wave has been in place since 1986, when the area started to become more popular, according to Carnahan. It was congressionally designated as a wilderness area.

    Carnahan said the public will be encouraged to submit formal comments about the proposed changes to the permit system after the draft of the business plan is released, but that feedback is always welcome at blm_az_vcnm@blm.gov.

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    When one November I applied for a walk-in permit (the day before, at the Kanab office) I was the only applicant for both the day I walked in & the next day (for which I applied). I has the whole place to myself.

    Answer: don't go and don't apply in the middle of the tourist season. You won't get a permit, and if you do, it's full of bluddy tourists. Plus it's too hot anyway.

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    I don't understand why there are so few permits for The Wave. I couldn't find any reasoning on the BLM website. There are many national parks and other scenic beauty that get hordes of visitors without degrading the place. So what's so fragile about The Wave? 20 people per day seems ridiculously few.

    Here's an idea: Odd days are limited to the current 20 permits per day for those who want solitude and better conditions for photographs. Even days no permits, or maybe 100, for those who just want to see the place.

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    With the number of deaths in recent years, I'm surprised they're making it easier to apply

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    Actually..... increasing the number of permits would probably increase the safety factor as there is more help available.... there is safety in numbers....

    Anyone that has done Subway, Orderville or LWH and helped a group of noobs that were heading towards disaster will understand the concept.

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    Recycling an old post to save electrons.

    The BLM posted a new business plan and allowed public comment through October 2015 (to which I did contribute my opinion). Here is the draft proposal that appears to be ready to be signed off and enacted. Start seeing changes in March.

    In a nutshell:
    * No change to the numbers of permits (still 20/day)
    * Modest fee increases for Paria Overnight and North and South Coyote Buttes permits
    - $10 overnight for Paria (from $5)
    - $12 for Coyote Buttes (from $7-NCB, $5-SCB)
    * Small fee decrease for Wire Pass/Buckskin Gulch access ($5, from $6)
    * Recreation.gov will administer permits now
    * Change in lottery process:
    - 10 online permits per day (same as current), but issued in TWO semi-annual drawings
    - No more walk-up, next day lottery. Replaced with 48-hour online lottery through Recreation.gov


    http://www.blm.gov/style/medialib/bl...riaBusPlan.pdf

    FAQ:
    http://www.blm.gov/style/medialib/bl...splan-faqs.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob L View Post
    When one November I applied for a walk-in permit (the day before, at the Kanab office) I was the only applicant for both the day I walked in & the next day (for which I applied). I has the whole place to myself...
    What year was that? I was there one morning in October 2014, and the place was standing-room-only! :o

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    What year was that? I was there one morning in October 2014, and the place was standing-room-only! :o
    After early November, there is a drop off in crowds.
    Utah is a very special and unique place. There is no where else like it on earth. Please take care of it and keep the remaining wild areas in pristine condition. The world will be a better place if you do.

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