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Thread: Torn between two ropes!
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10-24-2014, 02:00 AM #1
Torn between two ropes!
Hello everyone, first post here on bogley :)
I'm in the market for a new canyon rope around ~9mm with low elongation and that will work smoothly with a Totem, and I've narrowed it down to two ropes:
The Imlay Canyonero 9.2mm
http://www.store.canyoneeringusa.com...oduct=10914028
And the Bluewater canyonator 9mm
https://bluewaterropes.com/product/9mm-canyonator/
I know they are very similar ropes but I can't decide which to get. It will mostly be used in Hawaii canyons which almost always involve lots of water.
Anyone have input on these ropes?? Thanks :D
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10-24-2014 02:00 AM # ADS
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10-24-2014, 05:06 AM #2
Torn between two ropes!
Imlay, without question.
The canyonator has a much thinner sheath and is much more prone to damage. I love bluewater everything, but the canyonator is really sub par for them.
Personally, I think the Imlay canyon fire is the best rope out there for the money. But if you're convinced you want a 9mm, go imlay.
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10-24-2014, 08:23 AM #3
Cayonero = higher abrasion resistance
Canyonator = better handling + smoother rappels (not so stiff)
Which is more important to you?
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10-24-2014, 08:27 AM #4
I bought 9.2mm as my first rope thinking I would need the durability....but the size and weight is a huge liability. You may want to consider the 8.2mm if you are set on a poly rope, they hold up just fine.
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10-24-2014, 08:38 AM #5
Avoid the Canyonater at all costs. I had a 220' Canyonater that is now in about 8 pieces due to multiple core shots. It is very prone to damage.
If you want a 9mm rope, I would personally suggest the Sterling C-IV. Its very abrasion resistant and as light as most 8mm ropes. Although, it can be bouncy when wet.
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10-24-2014, 08:39 AM #6
Hawaii = lots of water and sharp rock (AFAIK). Not the best place for less than 9mm ropes.
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10-24-2014, 10:33 AM #7
My Imlay rope seemed to do fine. I know the Maui Canyon team uses a lot of Sterling ropes though.
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10-24-2014, 11:39 AM #8
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10-24-2014, 07:47 PM #9
Thanks for all the response guys, very helpful!! Just came across this rope too. http://www.sterlingrope.com/product/...P090/_/9mm_HTP
Marketed for arboring but seems about the same as the Imlay. Has anyone tried these "htp" ropes?
That'd probably be my ideal rope, a bit too pricey since I'm getting 300' of it. Also, I'm really excited about to super low bounce with the Imlay.
Yeah the island is a giant volcano and lava rock is pretty damn sharp. Are 9mm that much more durable than 8?? I guess the extra sheath would really help.
I haven't considered it actually, just lighter weight and faster rappel speed? The rope will almost always be wet..
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10-25-2014, 01:32 AM #10
The HTP is good static rope but it's not specifically designed for canyons.
Go with the imlay canyonero.
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10-25-2014, 10:47 AM #11
Not necessarily; it depends on construction, materials, etc. But with all else being equal in those areas, a larger diameter is inherently more robust due to:
- more material = greater resistance to cuts and abrasion (more material must be cut/worn away before the rope is seriously damaged)
- Pressure/wear at a rub point is spread over a larger surface area
- more material bearing the load = lower stretch = reduced sawing/rubbing action
Another side benefit of larger diameter is reduced wear rate on descenders. Probably not an issue in Hawaii...
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10-26-2014, 09:03 AM #12
HTP is a little heavy and bulky for canyoneering, excellent rope though.
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10-27-2014, 07:07 AM #13
And...
If you order the Imlay rope from me, CanyoneeringUSA, you pay 10$ for shipping. Which to Hawaii amounts to a generous discount.
Tom
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10-30-2014, 12:38 AM #14
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