Lost/stuck rope in englestead

[Branin]

Got a rope stuck in englestead. Imlay, about 200 ft. Will have either a rock exotica pirate or a metolious biner with it. Would love to get it back.

Also of note: The recent floods have quite drastically changed the character of both englestead and orderville, even to the point of altering/adding/subtracting obstacles.

[earwig654]

which rappel?

[ratagonia]

Heading there this weekend. Will get if still there.

Tom

[flatiron]

" drastically changed the character of both englestead and orderville, even to the point of altering/adding/subtracting obstacles."

Curious - How so? Any details?

[ratagonia]

" drastically changed the character of both englestead and orderville, even to the point of altering/adding/subtracting obstacles."

Curious - How so? Any details?

Canyons change all the time, but big flood events, especially close together, create big changes. I am curious as to what has changed. Heading there tomorrow and will report back.

Tom

[flatiron]

Canyons change all the time, but big flood events, especially close together, create big changes.
Big news!

I am curious as to what has changed.
Me2

Tom

Me being smartass - back to work.

[GueroSteve]

I grabbed it today. PM me and we'll figure out how to get it back to you. I may not respond until Sunday night when I'm back home.

[xxnitsuaxx]

Tom? What changed?

[ratagonia]

Tom? What changed?

The opening sequence was very little changed, except there were only 3 colors of webbing on the first rappel tree, rather than the usual 6. After that, there were quite a few logs moved around, mostly stuff disappeared. The first nuisance rappel was blown out, so now a walk-through. Various logs were missing after that. The slide into the arch room was blocked by log debris, becoming 10' rappel or handline.

In Orderville, a couple really huge logs were blown away, creating an additional swim where previously we traversed logs over the top (slippery logs, center to left).

Maybe my first time through Englestead since the beginning that I would consider the anchors to generally be in good shape.

Tom

[Branin]

One little nuisance rap gone, one new one showed up. Way more swimming than I've ever done in englestead. One log jam to climb over I don't remember previously.

Orderville had some log jams pretty seriously rearranged, and some sand blocking of one of the two falls almost everywhere there are normally two (will probably address itself in short order).

Both canyons were seriously lacking in green. I've always loved the plant life in orderville and look forward to its return.

[GueroSteve]

Maybe my first time through Englestead since the beginning that I would consider the anchors to generally be in good shape.

Tom

We rebuilt a few of them the day before you went through.