Anybody done Waterholes Cyn?

[Scott P]

I'd be interested as well. And I have two 360' ropes.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, I've wanted to do Waterholes for a long time, but every time I was in the area it was closed.

[2065toyota]

how is the river going up to the exit point. I'm sure I could get somebody to bring a boat up and get us. That is if this turns into an invite yourself type of trip

[Erik B]

I'd be interested as well. And I have two 360' ropes.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, I've wanted to do Waterholes for a long time, but every time I was in the area it was closed.

how is the river going up to the exit point. I'm sure I could get somebody to bring a boat up and get us. That is if this turns into an invite yourself type of trip

Do you have exeact dates yet? I would be interested in going and could bring my 360ft rope.

Well boys...So far I've been unable to contact the Navajo folks to see what is open and what isn't. I'll PM you all when I get a little more info.

As for the boat idea, I've seen trip reports of people being picked up. Looks cushy. My plan was this:



Unless, of course everyone prefers floating to victory in this ( VVVVV ) hot rod instead.

[2065toyota]

Do you leave us any choice


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[mzamp]

What if I throw in a nights stay at Amangiri resort?

[Mojave Silence]

Back in 2012 I seem to recall that you could pendulum to rappelers right (canyon left) on the big rap and gain maybe 6-8' in elevation, so if you were only a little short that may be an option perhaps. Or re-belay off the ledge anchors, which look like this:

[ratagonia]

Niiiiice, as in, classic F'd UP anchor rigging!

[Bootboy]

See also: Junk show

[oldno7]

You guys do understand that any shuttle will me a monumental effort...

[ratagonia]

You guys do understand that any shuttle will me a monumental effort...

At least the 89T landslide bypass road is paved now...

http://www.azdot.gov/media/News/news...o-restrictions

So perhaps only an hour and a half drive-around, Lee's Ferry to top of the canyon.

Tom

[oldno7]

At least the 89T landslide bypass road is paved now...

http://www.azdot.gov/media/News/news...o-restrictions

So perhaps only an hour and a half drive-around, Lee's Ferry to top of the canyon.

Tom

Yea--maybe monumental was to much.....

But still significant

[Dick Dangle]

I'd be interested as well. And I have two 360' ropes.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, I've wanted to do Waterholes for a long time, but every time I was in the area it was closed.

Who are you asking? I've obtained permits for WH on several occasions over the previous years and never had an issue. I usually just stop in the Cameron Visitor Center along the 89.

[Scott P]

Who are you asking? I've obtained permits for WH on several occasions over the previous years and never had an issue.

Usually the website itself keeps up with current closures:

http://navajonationparks.org/permits.htm#7

Recently, the Kaibeto Chapter community has prohibited hiking and camping in the entire area of Upper Kaibeto, Navajo Canyon, Choal Canyon, (Kaibeto Creek), Peach Wash, and Butterfly Canyon. Also, the area around the Inscription House community and Tsegi Canyon, (Dowozhiebeto and Long Canyons) are closed. These Closures are due to trespassing across residential areas, NO PERMITS, DISTRUBING LIVESTOCK, LITTERING, AND THE POSSIBLE DISTURBANCE OF FRAGILE ARCHAEOLOGICAL RUINS

Right now Lower Waterholes Canyon is not closed, but it has been in the past. Lower Waterholes Canyon has opened in recent years, while Navajo Mountain has closed.

[townsend]

Even if one acquired a permit to hike Water Holes Canyon, how does one get to it?

According to ADOT website (http://www.azdot.gov/projects/north-...s-89-landslide), US 89 is closed for 23-miles--from milepost 523-46

Water Holes Canyon crosses under US 89 at milepost 542. (I am assuming it is strictly verboten not to drive on the closed highway.) Would one have to park at milepost 546 and hike four miles to where the canyon crosses under the highway?

[oldno7]

Even if one acquired a permit to hike Water Holes Canyon, how does one get to it?

According to ADOT website (http://www.azdot.gov/projects/north-...s-89-landslide), US 89 is closed for 23-miles--from milepost 523-46

Water Holes Canyon crosses under US 89 at milepost 542. (I am assuming it is strictly verboten not to drive on the closed highway.) Would one have to park at milepost 546 and hike four miles to where the canyon crosses under the highway?

I don't believe the road is closed there.

There is a detour sign just South of Page but there is way to many Navajo homes that are accessed from 89 to be closed.

The slide was approximately 18 miles South of Page. Were as Waterholes is around 4 miles South.

[Dick Dangle]

Even if one acquired a permit to hike Water Holes Canyon, how does one get to it?

According to ADOT website (http://www.azdot.gov/projects/north-...s-89-landslide), US 89 is closed for 23-miles--from milepost 523-46

Water Holes Canyon crosses under US 89 at milepost 542. (I am assuming it is strictly verboten not to drive on the closed highway.) Would one have to park at milepost 546 and hike four miles to where the canyon crosses under the highway?

It's open and you can park at the usual spot. Getting there and shuttling just takes a little more time due to the closure. Still well worth it!

[townsend]

Thanks both of you for the information. I've hiked the non-technical eastern portion twice before. I have explored the canyon west of US 89 as far as the first rappel, wanted to do the first four rappels (maybe more now?) and then exit down canyon right, but didn't have a partner at the time. I really like Water Holes Canyon . . .

[mzamp]

Fantastic beta guys! Really, all of you, thanks! I've emailed Navajo Parks & Recreation about the permits. Haven't heard back...ugh. Were hoping for end of March on this guy.

Did you ever go through in March??

[Erik B]

Did you ever go through in March??

We havent yet. I DID however talk to some guys that had just come out as we were finishing a trip through Paria. They told me pretty much this: http://candition.com/canyons/lower-water-holes-canyon

I was extremely envious. My crew isnt available again until September, at which point we will be ABSOLUTELY doing it, unless someone wants to cruise through there with me somewhere between May 8-11th. Anybody game?