Zion-area canyons? (Besides Birch!)

[xxnitsuaxx]

Spending Labor Day down near Zion with 6 or 8 friends. Most of them have done a couple canyons but they're still beginners. I'd like to take them on a half-day canyon somewhere in the area (but outside of the Park). We're staying clear of Birch; I'm sure that place will be a mess of massive groups of beginners on Labor Day. The only canyon I can really find in the area is Red Hollow but it looks like there isn't much past the initial 300 footer. Anything worth doing down there or should we just go eat pie in Veyo?

[Iceaxe]

I still think Red Cave is very underrated...

Red Cave Beta
http://climb-utah.com/Zion/redcave.htm




And I consider Kanarra Creek to be one of the prettiest slot canyons on the planet...

Kanarra Creek Beta
http://climb-utah.com/Zion/kanarra.htm



Both are outside the park and neither require a permit.

[ratagonia]

I still think Red Cave is WAY over-rated.

Keyhole? Lower Fridge? with good vehicles Rock Canyon? Yankee Doodle? Boltergeist? Kanarra Creek? Walker Gulch?

Yeah, Red Hollow is not much more than one big big rap. Also, in the fall the landowner locks the gates to keep the deer poachers out.

Tom

[mzamp]

I still think Red Cave is very underrated...

I still think Red Cave is WAY over-rated.

[ratagonia]

You find it odd that Ice and I have differing opinions???

ya haven't been paying attention!

Tom

[Iceaxe]

If you are looking for a half-day of fun with friends and family in a beautiful slot canyon without a permit you will like Red Cave.

If you are looking for a day long Mtn Dew type canyon Red Cave will disapoint you.


Tap'n on my Galaxy G3

[flatiron]

You find it odd that Ice and I have differing opinions???

ya haven't been paying attention!

Tom

can't we all just get along??

[Scott P]

can't we all just get along??

Getting along doesn't mean you always have to agree on everything.

[mzamp]

You find it odd that Ice and I have differing opinions???

ya haven't been paying attention!

Tom

Odd? No - Amusing & Entertaining? Yes

[Absolute Gravity]

Sounds like it depends on the company

[flatiron]

Getting along doesn't mean you always have to agree on everything.

Not agreeing - is it like this? or like this?

[Iceaxe]

Getting along doesn't mean you always have to agree on everything.

Any married man can tell you that's a true statement....

I find it amusing the number of people that are surprised to discover Tom and I are actually friends outside of our internet lives. We both enjoy canyoneering, but we do have a very different value system which creates a wide range of opinions.

[ilipichicuma]

Anyway, back on topic, I thought that Red Hollow was plenty fun after the first rappel, there was some good stuff in there. And, if you're looking for something that will be fairly Birch Hollow-esque, to some degree, Walker Gulch is a pretty good option.

[Krrristi]

I just did Water Canyon in Hidale and it was a lot of fun. Might be kind of a long day with 8 people if you do the whole canyon, but there's a few areas to drop in early. We also did Rock Canyon which was fun & short, but kind of a pain to get to.

[ststephen]

Just had a nice jaunt in Yankee Doodle this weekend. It was full of water which made it more of a hoot. Only two raps (and one can be avoided, or done twice if you want to climb out and run back like my son did!).

[Canyonater]

Just had a nice jaunt in Yankee Doodle this weekend. It was full of water which made it more of a hoot. Only two raps (and one can be avoided, or done twice if you want to climb out and run back like my son did!).

Dropping in just past the chute from the rim is an awesome 100ft free hanger.....try that next time...

[ghawk]

Walker is a good one, but there's one rappel that is a bit exposed off a tree, so you would want to set up something easier for the noobies and then rerig for the last person.

[ststephen]

Walker is a good one, but there's one rappel that is a bit exposed off a tree, so you would want to set up something easier for the noobies and then rerig for the last person.

I was all set to do Walker a few weeks back and I had several people tell me it was not worth my effort. Guess I need to see for myself.