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    Accident in Constrychnine

    Does anybody know the status of the gentleman who fell on Saturday in Constrychnine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USofCS View Post
    Does anybody know the status of the gentleman who fell on Saturday in Constrychnine?
    I was in Hanksville late Saturday afternoon, and saw two emergency vehicles with lights scream down the road past Stan's. Not sure if it was related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountaineer View Post
    I was in Hanksville late Saturday afternoon, and saw two emergency vehicles with lights scream down the road past Stan's. Not sure if it was related.
    Bruce is back in SLC
    broken pelvis and broken ankle no cast

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    check you damn webbing after 20 people penjulum on it!!!!!
    and do not do stunt rappels or jumping like a rubber band on it!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hesse15 View Post
    check you damn webbing after 20 people penjulum on it!!!!!
    and do not do stunt rappels or jumping like a rubber band on it!!!!
    I'd be more willing to take your emphatic advice if I had any idea what the circumstances were in this accident. Would anyone care to enlighten us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hesse15 View Post
    check you damn webbing after 20 people penjulum on it!!!!!
    and do not do stunt rappels or jumping like a rubber band on it!!!!
    I hope everything heals OK. And very glad he is back. I'm sure a very painful and tough experience, especially getting out?

    Did the webbing, or knot in the webbing fail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountaineer View Post
    I hope everything heals OK. And very glad he is back. I'm sure a very painful and tough experience, especially getting out?

    Did the webbing, or knot in the webbing fail?
    lukily was 2 groups behind mine!
    but was an ordeal!
    he sewer the webbing on rappels ,before him 20 people pejulum on the webbing back and forth and apparently he did not check the status of the rubbing spot before he jumped on it
    result as soon he penjulum out of the crack in the final rap the webbing broke and landed 40ffet to ground!
    evacuated in strecher at 10:30pm elicopter crazy pilot landed in bottom of the canyon and flew in the dark

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    Thanks for the updates/info Cristina.

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    I'm going to lay off the judgments.

    I was not on this trip, but a friend was. She sent me a note, saying she'd seen the frayed webbing and wondered if it was safe. She was in the first group. In her opinion, the faller's pack saved his life.

    Here's a link to the meetup event: http://www.meetup.com/WesternSlopeAd...nts/106269922/

    Here's a quote from that website:

    One of the anchors we specifically discussed is the one where the webbing was sawed through on Saturday afternoon resulting in Brucer's fall.
    However for the safety-conscience among you, after the pool arch incident, we now each individually look at the tails on the water knots and for any frays on the webbing, before we go over. We're also likely going to slow down a little and start adding contingency rigging and backup anchors where appropriate.

    In my very very short experience (say 5 technical canyons), most of the time rappelling in a canyon is the time between clipping in and actually hanging on the rope. I don't think these safety ideas would slow us down much at all.

    One more note: we've found and replaced bad webbing a couple of times, most recently in the right fork of Blarney. I went over a drop, and the webbing was frayed on the bottom. We've harvested 1/2" webbing and those tiny rapides from the right fork of Leprechaun, and very worn webbing as well.

    I consider it our group's responsibility to leave all the webbing in excellent condition. I'd like to see all groups adopt this policy.

    I'd like to hear from the more experienced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blamkin86 View Post
    I'm going to lay off the judgments.
    One more note: we've found and replaced bad webbing a couple of times, most recently in the right fork of Blarney. I went over a drop, and the webbing was frayed on the bottom. We've harvested 1/2" webbing, and very worn webbing as well.

    I consider it our group's responsibility to leave all the webbing in excellent condition. I'd like to see all groups adopt this policy.

    I'd like to hear from the more experienced.
    the blarney you replaced i think is in the DC part of the canyon,
    so I will not clean that stuff and if I get newbies they usually rap of me also because will be a ugly low start for them.

    you decide what is right for your group, i was on the second group in costrichnine inspected the webbing and saw some rubbing but still see all the ridges and stopped from sliding with my weight on and warned my 3 to do not play back and for with it but be careful and light rappeller!!
    the groups that come after had the responsibility to check and inspect the stuff their life depend on, i was thinking everybody knew that .

    in adobe swale a month ago i rapped 12 people out of me and I rap out of the most crappy webbing ever saw before!!!! took my risks but also i checked that were short drops (30-40 feet) with sandy bottom,and was ready for landing in case and I usually rap light and fast!!!!

    never liked multiple newbies overweight and jumpy out of natural anchors, too lengthily to explain that is not Zion!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blamkin86 View Post
    However for the safety-conscience among you, after the pool arch incident, we now each individually look at the tails on the water knots and for any frays on the webbing, before we go over..
    do you need people to die to check webbing?
    by the way accidents list are :wrong biner block, wrong lenght of rope, wrong canyon, wrong season for the canyon, wrong evaluation of anchor, ipothermia disidratation,been tired, been slow, been out of shape and the most common:poor judgment.
    all of those can in certain case will KILL you!!!!
    not just a knot in a webbing

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    Quote Originally Posted by blamkin86 View Post
    ...saying she'd seen the frayed webbing and wondered if it was safe...
    It is everyone's (or designated guide/leader - liable party) responsibility to check. Every time. Challenge things if you are unsure. If the group is unsure, you are in the wrong group.

    If you are setting up an anchor, and leaving it behind, you should do the very best job you can. However, the next group coming through has the responsibility to check, and fix/replace as needed before their use.

    For example, I've heard people recommend digging up dead man anchors, every time. Some back them up with meat, and watch for movement. For me, I always follow the ERNEST principles for every anchor I use.

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    Our group was directly behind Bruce when he fell. We were just waiting for our turn to rappel then heard the fall and help. Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1366081040.721859.jpg
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Size:  24.9 KB. This is webbing from the deadman, it snapped right over the edge and at the quick link. The webbing was frayed and felt very soft compared to new webbing.

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    Glad he is going to be OK. There was a lot of wind Saturday, awesome rescue got in. Amazing job.

    Thanks for the update.

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    accident report- Constrychnine, 04/13/13

    Accident Report- Constrychnine April 13, 13

    Two large meetup groups, Backpackers Anonymous out of SLC and Western Slope Adventurers from Grand Junction, planned a combined canyoneering trip to north wash, with the focus being on doing the canyons out at Poison Springs. The accident victim was Bruce Richardson, who was rapping 7th with a group of 8 people doing Constrychnine. As Bruce was on rappel at the last rap, the 90 footer into the dark chamber, the webbing holding him parted where it rubbed against the top of the rock, between the deadman anchor and the rap ring, about 12 inches from the ring, dropping him approximately 60 feet. Webbing, it should be noted, that was unnecessary and would not have been in play, had he been rapping off the piton and bolt that used to hang on the top of that wall. The elitist, self righteous, and still anonymous fool who took it upon himself to chop that bolt and remove the historical piton, lucked out, with the victim being a hammered and broken tough old bird, instead of the death that it very easily could have been. Another group in the canyon, from Colorado Springs, was hard on the heels of the accident group, and replaced the rigging, got the 8th man down, and sent a runner, Jeff Cooper, ahead to open ground with a Spot to call for help, as the patient, who was still conscious and could talk, was obviously badly injured and would need professional medical assistance and extraction. After sending the signal Jeff caught up with another group from the meetup party as they were having lunch on the ridge at the top of the climb out, who had just finished the same canyon 15 minutes ahead of the accident group, As a member of that group, and unfortunately well versed with the mechanics and personnel involved in a rescue in that area (from being a witness to one last year), I accepted the responsibility to get the word out from that point, and hustled for the car. We did not get service until we were 1 mile out of Hanksville, and pulled on in to the Chevron station as we concluded the 911 call, which among other things, confirmed that both Spot signals that were triggered were received. Duke and Jessica, the couple who own the Chevron and Stans, are both EMTs, and were among the very first responders to last years Boss Hawg accident, being the first to reach and treat that patient, so I knew they would be involved again, and that would be a good place to start. Duke had already gotten a call advising of an distress call, and the local SAR network had been alerted and was gathering, so I was able to provide them with the details, area map (thanks, Shane), and even a GPS coordinate that we had on a new GPS enabled camera, where we had taken pictures at the rappel/accident site. As the call went out through the local network for the local SAR personnel to gather, and it must be said that the Tropic Fire Dept was again well represented- from 3 hours away. A call also went out to Classic, in Page Az, for a chopper. As the Garfield Co Sheriff on scene debated between sending medical help in from the top of the canyon, or down the exit and then up from the bottom, word came that the chopper had set down in the canyon, and had already gotten their medical team, a medic and a flight nurse, in to the patient from the bottom of the canyon. It made one flight up to the trailhead- now command center, and picked up Duke and 2 other rescuers, and took them down to the site. The helicopter took off just before dark, and headed north, surprising the rescue team up top with the apparent speed of the evacuation, but as it turned out, the pilot decided he needed additional fuel, and flew over to the Hanksville airport to refuel. After several hours, and darkness fallen, with no word at all from the rescuers, the sheriff sent a radio team in on the exit route to try and establish communications with either the chopper or the rescue team, which they were able to do, from the lunch spot on the rim, without going down into the canyon. Standing on top of the ridge in the pitch black, with winds gusting 20-30 mph, it was astonishing to see the pilot, in returning, not touch down where we expected, at the broad Poison Springs/Slidenide confluence, rather shocking everyone by flying right up Slidenide Canyon, and touching down just below the Constrychnine junction. It was an incredible display of nerve and skill. Which served the rescuers well, as they were lacking in bodies to effectuate the carry out, and the other 7 in the canyoneering group were detained and conscripted to help in getting the litter and patient out the remaining canyon and to the chopper, which despite the relatively short distance, and the lack of any significant rappels, other than the 20 foot slide to the pool, still proved to be a difficult and time consuming job. The chopper took Bruce to the Grand Junction hospital, departing around 11 pm, and the rescuers and remaining canyoneers hiked out to the trailhead. Once again, the locals, scattered as they may be, rallied and turned out in force, to pull off another rescue, one cannot thank them enough for their efforts, especially as unpaid volunteers.
    Bruces cohorts picked him up from the hospital Sunday afternoon and brought him home to Salt Lake, where I visited him at his home today. He is obviously in considerable pain, having suffered a broken ankle and pelvis; the shoulder injury mentioned by the EMTs turned out to apparently be a deep contusion, but nothing else was broken, except maybe the helmet, which took a good whack at impact, according to the members of his group. So beyond that and some serious road rash he is in pretty good shape, and fully cognizant that he is lucky to be alive. He did say that he wanted to thank everyone, both the local SAR team and canyoneers who were involved in his rescue.

    rick thompson

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    Thanks for the detailed report Rick.

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    Thank you Rick. I'm in awe at the quick, selfless, and organized rescue you described.

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    I wish Bruce a quick and full recovery.
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    Thanks for the details Rick! Bruce was very fortunate! Good luck in your recovery!
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    Excellent report, Rick, & very thorough. Thanks for taking the time to do this. It benefits all.

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