Results 1 to 9 of 9
Thread: Retrievable Rope/Anchor designs
-
02-25-2013, 12:56 PM #1
Retrievable Rope/Anchor designs
Folks,
Now that I've been through a couple canyons, I'm interested in other designs for retrievable rigging and ropes. I was going to try and describe what we do know, but basically, it's the retrievable webbing with a pull cord. LAMAR undoes the stone knot, then pulls the rope and pull cord at the bottom.
We use the Stone Knot now, but I realize that you can't use it to lower someone in trouble - only use the other rope to go down and help out.
I'd like an alternative to the Stone for "just in case." We had a moment a couple weekends ago, and while we didn't have the rope for it, lowering the person in trouble may be helpful in another situation.
I found this: http://dyeclan.com/outdoors101/canyo...trievable-rope
My question is, are the Joker and Jester knots "recommended" here, and can someone point me to how to tie them?
Trying to learn and be prepared. Any suggestions are welcome.
Thanks!
--Bill
-
02-25-2013 12:56 PM # ADS
-
02-25-2013, 03:40 PM #2
I really like the jester since its easy to set up and easy to lower someone if necessary and the last man down can use the rigging to rappel on. You clip a biner in the same spot as the rapide and run the rope through like its a 2nd rapide then clip your totem with the slots down into the biner. Then take a bight from one strand and pass it through one slot and then a bight from the other strand and pass it through the other slot and pass a 2nd biner through the bights and your good. Gotta watch it though since a heavy guy on skinny 8mm rope can cause some slippage. I've never seen any, but I've heard that its happened. As long as you have someone watching it while people are on rappel its not a problem since any slipping can easily be arrested by pulling on the non rappel strand to brake.
-
02-25-2013, 04:36 PM #3
I've found when used properly, the Jester works very well. I really like rigging it on a Totem with larger groups. I have also rigged it with a Sterling ATS, although it is more difficult to release.
Contingency anchors are critical to know and use. There are many that would argue that they should be used on every rappel. In practice, I've found that every situation is different.
-
Post Thanks / Like - 1 LikesMrAdam liked this post
-
02-26-2013, 05:38 AM #4
Thanks Guys - I found a picture of the jester online elsewhere.
If you're getting slippage, seems like you could use the double-biner method, and clove hitch one or both sides. Still easy to remove the biner in case you need to.
-
02-26-2013, 08:24 AM #5
Who is the Dye Clan? Cool site. You can remove your Stone. Z rig the strand that is loaded, unload the weight on the Stone and then replace with a Contingency.
-
02-26-2013, 08:36 AM #6
-
02-26-2013, 08:59 AM #7
Slotmachine does a good write up of converting a stone knot to a lower here....
http://www.bogley.com/forum/showthre...-a-contingency
-
Post Thanks / Like - 2 LikesSlot Machine, blamkin86 liked this post
-
02-26-2013, 09:30 AM #8
-
02-26-2013, 04:01 PM #9
Similar Threads
-
Retrievable anchor idea
By moab mark in forum CanyoneeringReplies: 40Last Post: 08-02-2013, 07:41 PM -
Anchor and Rope responsibility
By Dakine in forum CanyoneeringReplies: 66Last Post: 02-15-2013, 08:37 AM -
(Tech) Two-Ring Retrievable Anchor Thingee
By ratagonia in forum CanyoneeringReplies: 13Last Post: 12-14-2012, 02:31 PM -
[For Sale] Rope + Bag for Sale! New 300-foot Imlay Fire Rope 8.3mm + Rope Bag
By canyonnut in forum CanyoneeringReplies: 5Last Post: 11-04-2010, 07:26 PM -
Simul-rap/retrievable anchor
By Iceaxe in forum CanyoneeringReplies: 5Last Post: 03-31-2007, 04:26 PM