Looking for an AR

[oldno7]

What brand?
Don't want to get carried away with price but looking for a quality gun.

[oldno7]

Also--recommended barrel twist and ammo.

I have .223 dies, been loading this caliber for years.

[Dman]

I just bought an AR after a ton of research and well as consulting with my Father, who knows more about them than anyone should, I wound up picking up the S&W M&P sport for under $650.00. It lacks the forward assist(completely unnecessary for my uses) as well as the dust cover over the ejection port(not using it in the Middle East so not a concern there). They use a new coating system instead of a chrome lined barrel much like Glock has been doing since the 80's so longevity is certainly not an issue. Dollar for dollar this is the best out there right now. For a slightly higher price and adding back in those missing options that the Sport lacks, the former owner of Bushmaster(now owned by Freedom Arms=shit quality) has started up a new company Windham and is priced around $800.00 for a very high quality rifle. I would stay away from DPMS, Bushmaster and Colt as they once had a great reputation for quality but todays products certainly don't show their heritage. There are a lot of options out there under a $1000 but none that I felt like gave me a better gun than the M&P Sport.

On a side note, if you are going to load your own, I have access to about 40 hrs of round development for some great loads.

[oldno7]

Thank you!!
great details. I need to call my buddy, I think he also just bought a Smith.

Would be very interested in your information regarding round development.

[Iceaxe]

Hmmm... I'm thinking maybe I should add an AR to my collection in case of a zombie or Democrat apocalypse.

Keep the info coming. I'm also a fan of .223 as I have a couple cases of .223 ammo sitting around the house.


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[Sandstone Addiction]

Besides the "apocalypse" that Shane mentions, what do you plan to use this rifle for the most?

[oldno7]

Besides the "apocalypse" that Shane mentions, what do you plan to use this rifle for the most?

Storing in my safe with the dozens of others I neglect

Or how bout' mostly target and prairie dog shooting.

I want it to be VERY accurate out to 200yds(seems reasonable)

[Iceaxe]

Storing in my safe with the dozens of others I neglect

What?!? Only one safe? What a noob.


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[Sandstone Addiction]

Found it for you Kurt. SWEET!

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218...lpid=6&search=

It looks like the post election hysteria has begun so if you see something you like, you may want to jump on it.

Send me the money and I'll pick it up and test it for you...ha ha.

[oldno7]

Hi Dave
I saw this at gunnies. I really would prefer an individual sale.
Do you have any experience with the Sig? I have a Sig pistol and love it.

[Dman]

The Sig is a great gun but the addition of the gas piston system adds weight and complexity to a weapon that is already proven to work well with it's current operating system. Don't get me wrong, I have owned and built half a dozen AKs(one of the worlds most popular and reliable piston operated weapons) and love them but the addition of the piston system to the AR platform seams like more marketing than necessity. Check out Rock River Arms as well, lots of options to chose from to get the platform you really want. I would have considered them for my purchase but the model I looked at for the price range of the S&W Sport didn't have a chrome lined barrel.

[oldno7]

I was told the the Sigs are a proprietary system (only sig parts)
While all the others are interchangeable.

[Sandstone Addiction]

Hi Dave
I saw this at gunnies. I really would prefer an individual sale.
Do you have any experience with the Sig? I have a Sig pistol and love it.

I apologize Kurt, the purchasing it for you was a poor attempt at humor as I would never seriously persuade anyone to break the law. I guess I got a little too excited when I saw this...But, if you buy something up here in No Utah and are heading south, I do know a great spot in Santaquin right off the freeway that you could make sure it functions properly. I'd be happy to supply the ammo as I've got a bunch that needs to be shot up.

I don't have any experience with the Sig rifle, but I do have a P229 that I bought years ago and love the workmanship and quality. I'm sure anything with the Sig brand is superb. On the other hand, if parts are not interchangeable, that most likely would be a game changer as one of the biggest selling points to the AR platform is the ability to interchange uppers and accessories.

[oldno7]

No apology required--I saw your humor............

[oldno7]

On a side note--I was cleaning out my reloading room and found a plaque I had on the wall, NRA Life Member since 1989.

An Endowement member for about the last 10 of those

[Brian in SLC]

For the money, IMHO, nothin' beats a Colt.

[oldno7]

For the money, IMHO, nothin' beats a Colt.

6940/20, other ?

appreciate your input Brian

[Brian in SLC]

Prices on those LE6920's has gone down down down since they overbuilt and dumped them onto the market. Great rifle for the money.

Have always liked this chart, even if a few years old (note the prices! You can pick up an LE6920 new in box for around a 1000 bucks!):



Pretty well vetted rifle.

I spent a bit of time searchin' around on the competition forums, 3 gun, tactical, etc. If folks are going low end, they start with a Colt as their base rifle. Pretty good out of the box. See AR15.com, etc.

[Brian in SLC]

Explanations of the catagories here:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...=5&output=html

[Brian in SLC]

A bit more updated chart that is purtier too (check out the prices...much lower now!):